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Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by freecocoa(f): 11:28am On Jul 27, 2017
I think trump is right on this one jare, If they will pay for their hormonal drugs then fine, the government shouldn't be responsible for that, if anything, they should take it up with their god who made them men instead of women and vice versa. undecided

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Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by reciprokal: 11:31am On Jul 27, 2017
Explorers:
Angry protesters took to the streets of New York City and Washington DC on Wednesday night after the president announced his ban on transgender people serving in the armed forces.

Crowds gathered outside the famed US Army Recruitment center in Times Square with signs bearing slogans including 'resist' and 'rise up' in a show of defiance against the president's announcement.

Others marched on foot outside the White House bearing signs which read 'we're here, we're queer,we hate the f****** president'.

The demonstrations were in response to an announcement he made earlier on Wednesday in which he described the cost of transgender healthcare in the military as a 'burden'.

'After consultation with my Generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States Government will not accept or allow transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military.

'Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail,' he said.




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4733888/Protests-Trump-bans-transgender-people-military.html


Trump for life. I wish he would kick them faggy Fagøts out too.
Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by HarunaWest(m): 11:32am On Jul 27, 2017
Coldfeet:
Trans sharing bathroom with others is just what I can't comprehend! How can a man born a man and still has his dick be allowed to use female restroom and vise versa? My tolenrance for all humans is greatly stretched with this lots o! I can't accept. angry

As in ehn very insane ideology

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Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by Kokaine(m): 11:32am On Jul 27, 2017
rifasenate11:
Lols..... grin the Americans in the streets are different from the Americans that voted for Trump. and the ones that gave him his votes are happy with his reforms. America is like a dog that does as it wishes, until Trump musters that dog. what the hell is US Amry doing with Transgenders. are they giving the soldiers fun or what??. I f you are a man , stay a man for goodness sake.

Trump is the best thing happening to America.
exactly.
what is a female man or male woman doing in the army when they should be in mental homes.

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Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by linearity: 11:33am On Jul 27, 2017
Neddstark:


I get extremely disgusted when people who dont have depth in christianity or the bible try to tell me about it. People like you disgust me more than a maggot-infested septic tank. Just park well abeg.

Don't hide behind some faceless 'depth in Christianity or bible' I doubt, you can find yourself around the Bible. I asked for a Bible verse and chapter, be the Paul of our generation, dust off your Bible and tell me where am wrong.

The only commandment given to me is to preach to sinners and that, whenever I ask them to turn away from their sins, I should offer them an alternative to come to Jesus.

The Bible even said, if they did not listen that I should leave them alone and go to the next sinner. No where in the Bible was I commanded to make life a living hell for them, no where was I instructed to force them to stop sinning.

The Bible even said, sinners will do the Will of their father, the devil which is to commit sin. It is unchristianly to be surprise that sinners commit sins and not biblical to expect them to follow the scriptures.

This world is not of God and it is not our own, preach the gospel as Jesus instructed his disciples to do and leave the Holy Spirit to convict sinners of sin.

All these aside, I am truly waiting for a biblical reference that contradicts anything I have stated and I will be happy to recant and thank you for bringing enlightenment.

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Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by somehow: 11:34am On Jul 27, 2017
The reason for removing them is not because they are not humans, its because they cost the military more money to maintain. How can you be maintaining machineries and also be maintaining humans x2 the cost of defined sexual oriented soldiers?
Richy4:


You are right.. If they are performing well in the military, and doing their job well, why would anyone exclude them because of their sexual orientation..that is discrimination..But many won't understand..
Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by jiangchu: 11:40am On Jul 27, 2017
linearity:


I truly will take it that, you have not met a transgender individual before.

The truth is, if you have met a transgender male; you will physically prevent him from sharing the same bathroom with your daughter....the same goes for a transgender female, eyes will be rolling in the male bathroom.

There are lots of ignorance around these issues because, they are so distant from us and we cannot relate to these issues.

My position is, looking at the human race in general; if we can have physical birth defects on any part of our body and can even have behavioral defects like madness, but we still believe that God created all these and accommodate and empathize with these people;

Why is it so hard to believe that someone can be created with sexual birth defect i.e. Someone having a sexual outcome that is not among the General norm? And why not accommodate and empathize with these sets as the previous while you keep praying and hoping that God correct their defects miraculously like you do for the previous set?

It is even surprising that, some that call themselves Christians, who probably are alienated from the Christian teachings are led these charge to isolate and ostracize.

thank you my brother

We nigerians are quick to assume a moral high ground and any culture which did not abide to our self-drafted moral codes were regarded as scum and vermin. most of those on NL are misconstruing GAY/LESBIAN as TRANSGENDER.
Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by MadCow1: 11:44am On Jul 27, 2017
Iamzik:


Which Supreme Court?
He is the commander in chief and he has the constitutional right to do just that.

Military internal issues are not handled by civilian courts

Only thing they can do is to apply pressure and moral suasion. Protests don't bother Trump.

He's out of the box and that's why he won.

Remind me the court that took down Clinton Administrations "Don't ask Don't tell" again.. grin grin grin


Yeah.. I will wait for you to Google that shiit.

Don't speak categorically about things you no know about or things you are not sure of.

This Executive Order will be contested in court and like his Travel Ban, it will be shot down by the court.
Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by AZeD1(m): 11:44am On Jul 27, 2017
somehow:
The reason for removing them is not because they are not humans, its because they cost the military more money to maintain. How can you be maintaining machineries and also be maintaining humans x2 the cost of defined sexual oriented soldiers?

The US military spends more money on Viagra than on trans people so your argument doesn't hold.
Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by MadCow1: 11:45am On Jul 27, 2017
jiangchu:


thank you my brother

We nigerians are quick to assume a moral high ground and any culture which did not abide to our self-drafted moral codes were regarded as scum and vermin. most of those on NL are misconstruing GAY/LESBIAN as TRANSGENDER.


Africans are full of shit
Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by budosky(m): 11:46am On Jul 27, 2017
SalamRushdie:


He is a two term president and nobody on earth can stop it
Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by jpphilips(m): 11:46am On Jul 27, 2017
linearity:


I truly will take it that, you have not met a transgender individual before.

The truth is, if you have met a transgender male; you will physically prevent him from sharing the same bathroom with your daughter....the same goes for a transgender female, eyes will be rolling in the male bathroom.

There are lots of ignorance around these issues because, they are so distant from us and we cannot relate to these issues.

My position is, looking at the human race in general; if we can have physical birth defects on any part of our body and can even have behavioral defects like madness, but we still believe that God created all these and accommodate and empathize with these people;

Why is it so hard to believe that someone can be created with sexual birth defect i.e. Someone having a sexual outcome that is not among the General norm? And why not accommodate and empathize with these sets as the previous while you keep praying and hoping that God correct their defects miraculously like you do for the previous set?

It is even surprising that, some that call themselves Christians, who probably are alienated from the Christian teachings are led these charge to isolate and ostracize.

The fact that something occurred differently in nature should be excused not when one made a deliberate choice, Trump says "if you are a man but wanna wear a panty hose, stay the fvck off my military", how difficult is that?

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Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by rasco2000me: 11:47am On Jul 27, 2017
PDPGuy:
Trump hasn't seen anything. He will be shocked to discover that Congress can overturn his Executive Order with the necessary legislation.

'Transgenderism' isn't a clear cut mental disease, and as long as the transgendered military personnel are fit to serve physically and mentally, then I see no reason why they should be barred from serving in the military.

Even the top brass at the Pentagon were shocked by the president's sudden move.

Nonetheless, lawsuits against the president challenging the legality of the EO would likely end in a court victory for the president and the military because the US courts have generally given the military deference in such issues.
child. Of jesebe
Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by jpphilips(m): 11:49am On Jul 27, 2017
EvilMetahuman:
those liberals are the reasons america have first black president or slave trade abolished.

The political correctness is the reason why only majority are not the ones doing whatever they want and damned the minorities.


In as much is I see transgender as sick people, taking away their basic human right should never be supported by anyone.

Serving in the army is not a human right but a National call for duty, just like a deformed person isnt allowed to serve, same way a deformed mind shouldn't, i think this part of the swamp was properly drained.
Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by Danhumprey: 11:51am On Jul 27, 2017
EvilMetahuman:
those liberals are the reasons america have first black president or slave trade abolished.

The political correctness is the reason why only majority are not the ones doing whatever they want and damned the minorities.


In as much is I see transgender as sick people, taking away their basic human right should never be supported by anyone.
@bolded, irrelevant. quite being sentimental because you're a black man. black people constitute roughly less than 20% of the US population, that's they are in the minority. granted Obama's presidency is a win for the Black minority, but how did his presidency turned out? a disaster. ask the average native American citizens what they think about Obama's presidency and you will be surprised. it's mostly the illegal immigrants that are hyping Obama as some sort of hero.

Donald Trump, I may not like him and for all his shortcomings, he's shown a willingness to get things right and restructure America.


what basic rights are you talking about?
Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by bolethings: 11:51am On Jul 27, 2017
And Obasanjo thinks Trump is a curse on America? Many of us wouldn't have been desperate to travel abroad if not for the bad society we have. So far Trump has always given commonsense policies. Ban immigrants, ban extremists and ban Transgenders. I don't really see anything bad about the man. There has been job gains lately and improved stock values in that country. I wish we had a real President like Trump and not a missing one.

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Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by jiangchu: 11:53am On Jul 27, 2017
MadCow1:



Africans are full of shit

ain't you an african. i'm still counting down the day I will leave this country. so many foolls with a DEGREE CERTIFICATE

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Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by Richy4(m): 11:54am On Jul 27, 2017
somehow:
The reason for removing them is not because they are not humans, its because they cost the military more money to maintain. How can you be maintaining machineries and also be maintaining humans x2 the cost of defined sexual oriented soldiers?

if you have followed Donald Trump from his campaign to being the president, You would have realised that
1. He tries to tolerate blacks, He got irritated seeing them..
2. He hated gays and transgender
3. He doesn't fancy independent women..
4. He loved his family and they can do no wrong.

The cost he just mentioned was an excuse...Those transgender in military can do what other sexual orientation guys can do..If they are under performing in their duties, i think they should be sacked...Some of them have taken bullets to make sure America still remain the land of the free..
Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by lonelydora: 11:54am On Jul 27, 2017
enoqueen:
Rubbish. Am loving this Trump already.

I no see that sixty something years old agbaya there o. Jenner abi Wetin they call himher

Lol
Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by Danhumprey: 11:56am On Jul 27, 2017
linearity:


I truly will take it that, you have not met a transgender individual before.

The truth is, if you have met a transgender male; you will physically prevent him from sharing the same bathroom with your daughter....the same goes for a transgender female, eyes will be rolling in the male bathroom.

There are lots of ignorance around these issues because, they are so distant from us and we cannot relate to these issues.

My position is, looking at the human race in general; if we can have physical birth defects on any part of our body and can even have behavioral defects like madness, but we still believe that God created all these and accommodate and empathize with these people;

Why is it so hard to believe that someone can be created with sexual birth defect i.e. Someone having a sexual outcome that is not among the General norm? And why not accommodate and empathize with these sets as the previous while you keep praying and hoping that God correct their defects miraculously like you do for the previous set?

It is even surprising that, some that call themselves Christians, who probably are alienated from the Christian teachings are led these charge to isolate and ostracize.
Bottom line, we should just assume and agree that God doesn't exist, because the kinda confusion in this world is simply mind-boggling.

no way can I believe that some people were born gay or had gay tendency from the womb. no way. something just isn't right somewhere.
Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by EvilMetahuman: 11:56am On Jul 27, 2017
jpphilips:


Serving in the army is not a human right but a National call for duty, just like a deformed person isnt allowed to serve, same way a deformed mind shouldn't, i think this part of the swamp was properly drained.
no known scientist or research has been able to point out that they have deformed mind or cannot serve.
Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by Dalek(m): 11:56am On Jul 27, 2017
For people saying cost is the reason read...

Trans medical care would only be a very tiny cost for the military
For this same reason, the costs of trans people seeking gender-affirming treatment would be fairly small. RAND found: “Using private health insurance claims data to estimate the cost of extending gender transition–related health care coverage to transgender personnel indicated that active-component health care costs would increase by between $2.4 million and $8.4 million annually, representing a 0.04- to 0.13-percent increase in active-component health care expenditures.”


Meanwhile

By contrast, total military spending on erectile dysfunction medicines amounts to $84 million annually, according to an analysis by the Military Times — 10 times the cost of annual transition-related medical care for active duty transgender servicemembers.The military spends $41.6 million annually on Viagra alone, according to the Military Times analysis — roughly five times the estimated spending on transition-related medical care for transgender troops.

Believe Trump at ur own wahala.

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Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by samjey: 11:56am On Jul 27, 2017
What a wasted and reprobate generation! God have mercy!
Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by MadCow1: 11:57am On Jul 27, 2017
jiangchu:


ain't you an african. i'm still counting down the day I will leave this country. so many foolls with a DEGREE CERTIFICATE

I am TransEthnic or Transracial.. grin

You get the point anyway.. Bro I wish you well in your pursuit of happiness. .

I have already achieved that just that I came back hoping I can help bring salvation to my People but they seem set in their ways.

Imagine that once upon a time, many people would have been supporting the execution of twins in an arguement because they didn't understand the phenomenon and considered twins to be evil.
Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by somehow: 11:59am On Jul 27, 2017
This is not about Trump, its a out the military. He's not against gays or les in the army, Infact the generals gave him a go ahead.
Richy4:


if you have followed Donald Trump from his campaign to being the president, You would have realised that
1. He tries to tolerate blacks, He got irritated seeing them..
2. He hated gays and transgender
3. He doesn't fancy independent women..
4. He loved his family and they can do no wrong.

The cost he just mentioned was an excuse...Those transgender in military can do what other sexual orientation guys can do..If they are under performing in their duties, i think they should be sacked...Some of them have taken bullets to make sure America still remain the land of the free..
Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by somehow: 12:00pm On Jul 27, 2017
Which is used for combat purposes.. Go and check.
AZeD1:


The US military spends more money on Viagra than on trans people so your argument doesn't hold.
Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by enoqueen: 12:00pm On Jul 27, 2017
jiangchu:


ignorance is killing you.

U de craze
Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by wink2015(m): 12:01pm On Jul 27, 2017
Where is Bobrisky.

He should join this Americanas to protest for his rights.

Bobrisky is our own local transgender in Nigeria.

Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by positivetaught: 12:01pm On Jul 27, 2017
The pursuits of extreme liberty n perfectionism is what will eventually destroy the American society,hell fire fall on them.
Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by MadCow1: 12:02pm On Jul 27, 2017
Menzy86:
And who appoints the people on the bench of the judiciary?

Yeah but the Bench isn't vacated like a Politician with years to serve and I think apart from Gorsuch at the Supreme Court who replaced Justice Scalia, Trump hasn't changed any other justices.
Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by EvilMetahuman: 12:03pm On Jul 27, 2017
Danhumprey:
@bolded, irrelevant. quite being sentimental because you're a black man. black people constitute roughly less than 20% of the US population, that's they are in the minority. granted Obama's presidency is a win for the Black minority, but how did his presidency turned out? a disaster. ask the average native American citizens what they think about Obama's presidency and you will be surprised. it's mostly the illegal immigrants that are hyping Obama as some sort of hero.
how his presidency turned out is irrelevant. Plus, that's your own opinion and it's highly debatable.

Point here is, the liberal white gave black man opportunity to become president which you as a black man appreciated at some point I assume.

If everyone is a dickhead conservative, blacks probably won't even have a say in american politics let alone smell the white house.



Donald Trump, I may not like him and for all his shortcomings, he's shown a willingness to get things right and restructure America.


what basic rights are you talking about?
right to serve your country.
Re: Protest In Newyork, Washington As Trump Bans Transgender In U.S.Military(Photos) by MadCow1: 12:03pm On Jul 27, 2017
wink2015:
Where is Bobrisky.

He should join this Americanas to protest for his rights.

Bobrisky is our own local transgender in Nigeria.

Bobrisky is a cross dresser not Transgender.


There is a difference.

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