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I join you for the laughter


"Some"

The dude as subconsciously confessed. He fell for it. That is,ibo being Jews is a big lie strictly base on individuality not ibo tribe hence the contractions in the result.

totit:
Thank you
You've proved me right. Obviously,being Jews isn't a tribe thing but individual, I guess mee I am jaw to.

For,In that case it's wrong to call you a jew and not ibo people . Don't you agree

Hope you won't claim Yorubas are Jews tomorrow


Being Jews is a tribal thing.

IgboSubmarine:
Hope you won't claim Yorubas are Jews tomorrow


Being Jews is a tribal thing.

O really Prove it abeg

@
GoldAlpha12



Don't waste your time arguing with the Yorubas on Nairaland


Find a way to reach out to those Jewish people and encourage them to collect samples from other parts of Igbo land starting with the LGAs I mentioned.


Samples should be collected from all LGAs especially those at the center of Igboland that have not intermarried with other tribes.

totit:
Thank you
You've proved me right. Obviously,being Jews isn't a tribe thing but individual, I guess mee I am jaw to.

For,In that case it's wrong to call you a jew and not ibo people . Don't you agree

That is not the point, if Jacob's DNA was found and it was tested to be E1b1a, but E1b1a is at an 80% rate in Africa, that does not make every African Jewish, it would just mean that Jacob's YDNA is E1b1a and it can be used to see if somebody has a chance of being Jewish, Jacob would come from a group of people that have E1b1a, however those people would not stop giving birth once Jacob was born, they would give birth to other people with E1b1a, but they would not be considered Jewish.

totit:
O really Prove it abeg

Lemba are a tribe in South Africa that have been confirmed Jews.

GoldAlpha12:
That is not the point, if Jacob's DNA was found and it was tested to be E1b1a, but E1b1a is at an 80% rate in Africa, that does not make every African Jewish, it would just mean that Jacob's YDNA is E1b1a and it can be used to see if somebody has a chance of being Jewish, Jacob would come from a group of people that have E1b1a, however those people would not stop giving birth once Jacob was born, they would give birth to other people with E1b1a, but they would not be considered Jewish.

you've said it all,and you know what? The majority carry it. Because as it stands, the majority tested has so far proved(as it stands)ibo race isn't Jews. And yes,you are right again,the bolded approve my point and the statement you just made ;ibo not being Jewish but base on individuality. I am mee,jew too

IgboSubmarine:
The problem started with the part of Igbo land they collected samples


The should have checked the following communities to verify


Obowo

Umuahia

Mbano

Ideato

Ihitte Uboma

Ohafia

Ikwuano

Bende


These are places they will get the result they seek for.


@ GoldAlpha12 totit

Such a disgraceful statement to make. I think you guys should be seeking therapy instead of DNA ancestry. What exactly is there to gain from being from Israel?

totit:
The dude as subconsciously confessed. He fell for it. That is,ibo being Jews is a big lie strictly base on individuality not ibo tribe hence the contractions in the result.

Your denying that some igbo's do have E1b, making them Jewish according to Bernis.

IgboSubmarine:
Lemba are a tribe in South Africa that have been confirmed Jews.

but among those ones were there any contradiction to the test results? Is ibo just a group of people or tribe,so why the contradiction in the result.

Lmao

GoldAlpha12:
That is not the point, if Jacob's DNA was found and it was tested to be E1b1a, but E1b1a is at an 80% rate in Africa, that does not make every African Jewish, it would just mean that Jacob's YDNA is E1b1a and it can be used to see if somebody has a chance of being Jewish, Jacob would come from a group of people that have E1b1a, however those people would not stop giving birth once Jacob was born, they would give birth to other people with E1b1a, but they would not be considered Jewish.

Then that rubbishes the idea of that haplogroup indicating 'Jewish' ancestry.

totit:
you've said it all,and you know what? The majority carry it. Because as it stands, the majority tested has so far proved(as it stands)ibo race isn't Jews. And yes,you are right again,the bolded approve my point and the statement you just made ;ibo not being Jewish but base on individuality. I am mee,jew too

If Jacob had E1b1a, and some igbo's have E1b1a you would not consider the possible Jewish ancestry of Igbo's?

IgboSubmarine:
Lemba are a tribe in South Africa that have been confirmed Jews.

Actually, it has been revealed from further research that they are not.

ezeagu:
Then that rubbishes the idea of that haplogroup indicating 'Jewish' ancestry.

If Jacob's Ydna was E1b1a, that haplogroup would be the Jewish haplogroup, not for everyone, but for some.

GoldAlpha12:
If Jacob had E1b1a, and some igbo's have E1b1a you would not consider the possible Jewish ancestry of Igbo's?

That would also mean that millions out of more than 500 million black Africans "may be Jewish".

ezeagu:
Actually, it has been revealed from further research that they are not.

Lemba's buba clan has a high rate of the Jewish cohen gene.

totit:
you've said it all,and you know what? The majority carry it. Because as it stands, the majority tested has so far proved(as it stands)ibo race isn't Jews. And yes,you are right again,the bolded approve my point and the statement you just made ;ibo not being Jewish but base on individuality. I am mee,jew too

You are just been a nuisance on this thread


So many Igbo communities have intermarried with other tribes especially those communities at the fringes of Igboland which will definitely affect their genetic make-up


The Jewish people should have taken samples from Igbo communities that are at the center of Igboland and have less intermarriage with other tribes


For example, Anambra has an indigenous Igala community.

So imagine what will become of their genetic make-up after years of intermarriage with other ethnic groups



GoldAlpha12 which part of Igbo land are you from since you have E1B1 genetic make-up.

ezeagu:
That would also mean that millions out of more than 500 million black Africans "may be Jewish".

It would be a factor in testing Jewish ancestry, such as somebody with haplogroup B would not Jewish 100%.

IgboSubmarine:
You are just been a nuisance on this thread


So many Igbo communities have intermarried with other tribes especially those communities at the fringes of Igboland which will definitely affect their genetic make-up


The Jewish people should have taken samples from Igbo communities that are at the center of Igboland and have less intermarriage with other tribes


For example, Anambra has an indigenous Igala community.

So imagine what will become of their genetic make-up after years of intermarriage with other ethnic groups



GoldAlpha12 which part of Igbo land are you from since you have E1B1 genetic make-up.

Nnwei

GoldAlpha12:
Your denying that some igbo's do have E1b, making them Jewish according to Bernis.[b]

Now you are contradicting ya self bro.

The result read : [b]E1b[/b]were none jewish.

GoldAlpha12:
It would be a factor in testing Jewish ancestry, such as somebody with haplogroup B would not Jewish 100%.

There's nothing like "Jewish 100%", even if we go with this funny theory, Igbo "Jews" would not be 100%, they'd be watered down with whoever you guys think the Igbo people are made up of who would be black Africans.

Furthermore, this is a ridiculous reason to claim or even been campaigning for Igbo Jewish identity.

totit:
Now you are contradicting ya self bro.

The result read : [b]E1b[/b]were none jewish.

Watch the video again, Bernis list E1b as a Jewish haplogroup, its even the first that is listed. Now your just denying facts.

IgboSubmarine:
You are just been a nuisance on this thread


So many Igbo communities have intermarried with other tribes especially those communities at the fringes of Igboland which will definitely affect their genetic make-up


The Jewish people should have taken samples from Igbo communities that are at the center of Igboland and have less intermarriage with other tribes


For example, Anambra has an indigenous Igala community.

So imagine what will become of their genetic make-up after years of intermarriage with other ethnic groups



GoldAlpha12 which part of Igbo land are you from since you have E1B1 genetic make-up.

Stop acting like you are intelligent as it's not obvious in your response.


So pray tell me, does that mean those selected from 5 states of SE none of them was ibo or what?

Joke on you

GoldAlpha12:
Nnwei

Find a way to reach out to them to collect samples from those LGAs I listed.

They will get the results they seek

GoldAlpha12:
Watch the video again, Bernis list E1b as a Jewish haplogroup, its even the first that is listed. Now your just denying facts.

And I quote you :

Rabbi Bernis states in the video that 124 igbo's that tested had E1A as their haplogroup, which is the reason why they were not considered Jewish. He later goes on to list the Jewish[b] Haplogroups, he lists E1b (E1b1a, E1b1b) as a Jewish Haplogroup, a lot of igbo's have E1b as a their YDNA haplogroup. We need to do Jewish DNA testing on igbo's with E1b.

ezeagu:
There's nothing like "Jewish 100%", even if we go with this funny theory, Igbo "Jews" would not be 100%, they'd be watered down with whoever you guys think the Igbo people are made up of who would be black Africans.

Furthermore, this is a ridiculous reason to claim or even been campaigning for Igbo Jewish identity.

Jews trace ancestry through paternal, if the father is an Israelite, than they would be considered as Jewish as any other Jew. It wouldn't matter if the Jewish autosomal dna is at 1%, if there are descendant of a male Israelite let's say 2,500 years ago but they have been intermixing with non-israelite woman they would be still considered an Israelite.

totit:
Stop acting like you are intelligent as it's not obvious in your response.


So pray tell me, does that mean those selected from 5 states of SE none of them was ibo or what?

Joke on you

You are making a fool of yourself by not acknowledging that intermarriage can altered a peoples genetic make-up


Some parts of Igbo land have intermarried less with other ethnic groups


New samples should be collected from those places of which I have listed some for you.

totit:
And I quote you :

I didn't say that all igbo's have E1b1a, I said some do. I do recognize that igbo's have E1A as well. Like the Lemba tribe who had both E and J.

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IgboSubmarine:
You are making a fool of yourself by not acknowledging that intermarriage can altered a peoples genetic make-up


Some parts of Igbo land have intermarried less with other ethnic groups


New samples should be collected from those places of which I have listed some for you.

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Stop acting like your hurt. Be matured for once.
So tell me, who's exactly an ibo person
Can you identify them by appearance Dude, obviously the majority has the vote.
Mtchew

GoldAlpha12:
Jews trace ancestry through paternal, if the father is an Israelite, than they would be considered as Jewish as an other Jews. It wouldn't matter if the Jewish autosomal dna is at 1%, if there are descendant of a male Israelite let's say 2,500 years ago but they have been intermixing with non-israelite woman they would be still considered an Israelite.

Intermarriage will definitely affect the genetic make-up of the later descendants.


Don't you think so

GoldAlpha12:
I didn't say that all igbo's have E1b1a, I said some do. I do recognize that igbo's have E1A as well. Like the Lemba tribe who had both E and J.

Then stop referring ibo as a whole to Jews. Doesn't that make sense now

You've proved my point here, ibo are not Jews but some as you put it earlier, and you also stated it within and spread across...Africa, remember now

Thank you

totit:
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Stop acting like your hurt. Be matured for once.
So tell me, who's exactly an ibo person
Can you identify them by appearance Dude, obviously the majority has the vote.
Mtchew

You are the one acting like a troubled person because I presented a reality you failed and refused to acknowledged


If the Jews can be encouraged to get samples through out Igbo land especially places that married less of outsiders, they will get a different result from those at the fringes of Igbo land