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| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Dahustler007(m): 2:23pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
johnw74: We'd Pray to GOD We'd pray To Our Mother Mary and the Saints to Intercede on our Behalf! Let's just end the Discussion #GodKnowsTheTruthInAll We just hope and Pray Nobody is Wrong |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Dahustler007(m): 2:26pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
johnw74: You've been saying the same thing and posting the same Bible Verses and I'll keep telling you we don't Worship Those Images since you think we do okay Fine. 1 Like |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Dahustler007(m): 2:32pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
johnw74: Not Evil Men Bro. Say what you know Those Doctrines all came from GOD He revealed himself to Many Saints and he told them |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 6:31pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
So what you are saying these statues are portraying someone you know, who are praying over you? Did you know bowing down or kissing the feet of these statues is against the eye's of God. Have you not read {Leviticus 26:1} "Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourself, and do not place a craved stone in your land to bow down before it, I Am the Lord your God. The Vatican is a good example-having sacred craved images made of stone across Rome-all around the world, nearly every believing Catholic, have clay images of above-you yourselves bow down praying and kissing these images to remind you of a somewhat godly present.. Do you ever read the bible-{Exodus 20:3-5} "You shall not have no other gods before Me, You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. "You shall not worship them or serve them. Again you claim you bow down to these images to remind you of the Saints-and these statues portray are watching over you. Do you know-becoming a born again believer-I don't need images to remind me God exist-I believe He is alive in my soul heart and mind, I pray to the invisible God [Colossians 1:15} Jesus said, when you pray, go into your room and pray to the Father in Heaven, did you know, if you pray directly to God, you will have a direct line into His throne room. You won't need to ask any images of saints to intercede for you, because the Lord had given us access straight to His Father. You want your answers answered, then pray directly to God-without the rosaries-without the portraying of the images, just pray directly to Him. Dahustler007: 1 Like |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 6:50pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
As the world knows Catholic's built images of dead saints to pray for them, even thru {Exodus 20} told us not to make images above, on earth and under the earth, but the Word of God didn't stop the Catholic's, matter of fact the Catholic's had done the opposite, because the Catholic's believe these images are portraying the saints that passed, these idol's give Catholic's some kind of a godly presents. Firstly the people ask the living Moses at the time to pray for them, Jesus tells us to ask the living to pray for us {Ephesians 6:8} I am happy you had finely realised God is the God of the living-well done good and faithful servant. Maybe someday you may even realised, Christians pray directly to the living God-Christians don't need images of dead saints to intercede for us, and besides It wasn't Moses that turned the stick into the snake, the presents of the invisible God was walking with Moses. Babacele: 1 Like |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 8:13pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
You have no worries we do pray for the Catholic's, and we pray directly to the invisible God. We don't need images of statues to remind us-their was a godly presents back in the day's of Mary and the saints, 'do you know, we now have that same Godly presents now-we have the Holy Spirit leading us, we don't need to pray to statues, that may portray someone you may have known. Jesus said: {Matthew 18:20} when two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them. This verse is quite simple to understand, we pray to or for the living-praying to statues that remind you they are portraying someone you know, is praying to the dead. God is the God of the living. Dahustler007: 1 Like |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 8:49pm On Aug 13, 2017 |
You shouldn't let this slide bro, this isn't just moving in any other circle-this is the Word of God-and if people are talking about this issue in Church, then maybe it's time for you to take some note. These questions are being asked by your comrades-there must be some truth in all this-because the bible tells a different story about these images-thru shalt not bow down too. You believe it yourself-bowing and kissing these images portrays the saints who are already in heaven with the Lord. Find the missing link-and maybe ask yourself-if the bible says not to bow down to them, are you nodding your head at these images while walking in Church, nodding your head is the same as bowing down to them? Jesus gave as a direct line straight to the throne of God-is it worth your while to stay as you are-bowing down to these images-or is it worth your while to obey the Word of God. I would rather fear God-then fear something else other then God. This is your destiny, is this really worth the risk bowing down to images, think about yourself-family, friends-believing in the truth will set you free-Listen you have heard the Word of God time and time again-you have read the bible-and I am sure you do understand it well enough to know better-I don't care what the Catholic Church say's-about the Word of God, listen everybody who disagree's with the truth is a fool, and more of a fool, when they die. To be blessed-is someone who understands the Word of God and obey's it, from the beginning to the end. Dahustler007: 1 Like |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 12:40am On Aug 14, 2017 |
Dahustler007: show from the Bible where u r 2 pray to mary and others who have died u keep twisting-lying, God said not to make images of things in heaven and in earth, roman catholic church does make images of things in heaven and in earth, God said not to bow down to them, u do bow down to them, u just keep twisting-lying 1 Like |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 12:41am On Aug 14, 2017 |
Dahustler007: God said not to make images of anything in heaven and in earth, the roman catholic church make images of things in heaven and earth God said u shall not bow down to them, but u bow down to them u cannot stop lying, u cannot even see how u r blinded: 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 1 Like |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 12:42am On Aug 14, 2017 |
Dahustler007: yet again more lies, show from the Bible where God gave your satanic doctrines to mary and saints 1 Like |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 12:55am On Aug 14, 2017 |
Dahustler007: people who have died watching over and interceding for u is not Bibical but from the doctrines of evil men who wrote contrary to God's word u roman catholics believe men over God, and of course God was right when he said that u hate Him, of course u don't believe God there either: (Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: (Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 1 Like |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 1:01am On Aug 14, 2017 |
^^^ the truth is before your eyes and u keep saying: but, but, but, giving: excuses, excuses, excuses, telling: lies, lies, lies, taking after your god: Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 1 Like |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Dahustler007(m): 7:20am On Aug 14, 2017 |
johnw74: God Appeared, has been appearing and he'll keep appearing to people and telling them what ought be done, you might be next who knows? Those doctrines ain't Evil Cause it's all about LOVE Yeah we you'd Love GOD and Our Neighbors and we making an image of GOD doesn't show we hate him, Cause GOD himself appeared to Saint. Maria Faustina and he told her to paint a picture of him which we use today in the Divine Mercy Prayer. Bro. I'll advice Us to just forget this discussion let's just concentrate on Loving GOD and Ourselves. |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Dahustler007(m): 7:24am On Aug 14, 2017 |
johnw74: you think what we Catholics are doing is wrong why not keep praying for our conversion since we're Idol Worshippers. Since you're the Real Christian that Worships GOD rightly |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Dahustler007(m): 7:38am On Aug 14, 2017 |
johnw74: Tell me if praying to the SAINTS and VIRGIN MARY the Mother of JESUS CHRIST to intercede for us is wrong. Bro. Don't you have images of your Loved ones at Home?? Or images of GOD or your Pastors in Church? We Bow down to them but we're not worshipping them, and we bowing down to those images or statues is not for them but for the person of GOD they Portray! I keep saying this. Let's just let this issue slide bro. We've talked a lot |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 3:52pm On Aug 14, 2017 |
James bond 007 You don't seem to be to bright-and you don't have a great interest to know any of the scriptures, you already believe the Catholic Church leads Christianity, so as far as you are concern, the Word of God does not have a place in your heart. Which of course what I and Johnw74 had written to you-doesn't go any further, only because you aren't interested. I don't believe you are even saved. It is wrong praying to the saints and Mary-after they had passed away-you are praying to the dead, but we had warned you what the Word of God say's about idol worshippers, and we have given you the scriptures to prove, Jesus had made a point to pray directly to the living God the Father, and still you have made no effort to even open up the bible and read it for yourself. No one in their right mind would make images of their friends and family-kind of weird isn't it-that you even suggested it in the first place, I suppose child molesters may make images of little children around there homes, just to remind them of the sick crimes they had committed. But if you are talking about photo images of friends and family-again we may ask if they could pray "for us" but we don't pray "to" them. Like you do-when praying "to" the saints. No we don't have images of our love ones at home-maybe a few photo's-but still we don't pray to them, we pray to God. It must be hard for you not wanting to learn the scriptures, you maybe one of those Catholic's that know very little, to get you through life, but there is still time-if you are willing to accept Christ into your life, after life-who knows where you are heading-I already have some kind of a picture in my mind-where you may end up after you die? Jesus said:thru shalt not bow down to any images. {Leviticus 26:1} 'Do not make idol's all setup an image of stone to bow down too. Dahustler007: |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 4:09pm On Aug 14, 2017 |
To solve this problem, why don't you learn the scriptures-it would be easier for you to understand the truth of the bible, and maybe you will realise how to pray correctly, and to whom you pray too. Everything else you believe is religious Roman Catholic rubbish. Dahustler007: |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 4:28pm On Aug 14, 2017 |
{Exodus 20:4} teachers us not to build any images made of stone-either in heaven above, on earth or under the earth, neither shall we bow down to them-Maria Faustina message requires people to commit Idolatry. This image is the "Divine Mercy" According to the Vatican, based upon the message of Sr Faustina, Catholic are required to "Venerate" worship this image of Divine Mercy. It is unbiblical anybody who claims God would want us to worship any image, especially the lieu of the fact that the second of the 10 commandment forbids us from doing so. Did you know the Vatican had removed the 2nd Commandment in their official Catechism? It is abundantly obvious that Catholicism is of the devil. Dahustler007: |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 12:18am On Aug 15, 2017 |
Dahustler007: God said making images does show u hate Him, and u keep showing how u don't believe God and hate Him: (Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: (Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; Dahustler007: c how u r blinded, no u can't c: 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 1 Like |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 12:25am On Aug 15, 2017 |
Dahustler007: i know what u r doing is wrong, but u have been blinded and cannot c anything: (Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: (Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 12:26am On Aug 15, 2017 |
Dahustler007: God said not to bow down to them, but u don't believe what God says, and u do bow down to them, because u hate God: (Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: (Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 5:36am On Aug 15, 2017 |
The Catholic's really don't understand any of the scriptures-which is very confusing-Peter was a follower of Christ-Peter done the things of Christ-but yet the Catholic's don't believe, like Peter believed? It just shows how confused they really are, their own teachings have denied Christ, hating Him, with a passion. Pope Francis claims by good works, even the atheist-will spend eternity in heaven, Idolatry is the proper name for Pope Francis, he had denied the Word of God with a passion-he is no more than a false prophet, and the world can only follow after it's own kind. The blind will always lead the blind-and spend eternity with their Pope and his follows in Hell. johnw74: 1 Like |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 6:23am On Aug 15, 2017 |
To be honest, I have never met a Catholic-who loves Christ as much as we love Christ. I have never met a Catholic pray and worship Jesus. I have never met a Catholic-being truthful to man kind. I have never met a Catholic, who I could say they are honest within. I have never met a Catholic-who would give everything just to be saved in Jesus name. I have never met a X Catholic-claiming they are still Catholic after they are saved. I have never met a Catholic that would agree the bible "IS" the only Word of God. Is there anything good I could say about Catholic's-Even thru God loves all man kind, that He sent His only begotten Son into the world to save us sinners {John 3:16} But Is there anybody out there-who could be honest enough to tell me-Catholic's do have a passion to love God and love all neighbouring's as themselves.. Jesus said: to Simon Peter do you love Me {John 21:15-17} Jesus emphasizing the importance of Peter's love and unswerving obedience to His lord as necessary for his future ministry. It must make as aware, that this is the same Peter the Catholic's claim to follow after. |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 9:56am On Aug 15, 2017 |
Dahustler007: those who believe God and do what He says, Love God those who don't believe God and don't do what He says, hate God (Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: (Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 10:03am On Aug 15, 2017 |
johnw74:am i sure sin is also found in your church, I guess that means it comes from the the devil too. |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 10:25am On Aug 15, 2017 |
Dahustler007 :, babacele, those guys arent ready to reason, all they want to do is accuse. Leave them be. Do not throw pearl before swine. |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Ubenedictus(m): 10:35am On Aug 15, 2017 |
johnw74: 2 Timothy 2:23-24 23 Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. 24 And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. . 2 Timothy 2:16 However, avoid pointless discussions. For people will become more and more ungodly. |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 11:05am On Aug 15, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: i said child sexual abuse comes from satan, and un Bibical doctrine that is part of rcc is from satan but dictus, u roman catholics love to twist things around-lie: Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 11:07am On Aug 15, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: ha ha, that says roman catholic Bible disbeliever, God hater dictus: (Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: (Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 11:09am On Aug 15, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: and none are more un godly than those who do the opposite to what God says to, those roman catholics God haters, dictus and company: (Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: (Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by johnw74: 11:31am On Aug 15, 2017 |
brocab: ha ha, yeah 007 is no james bond  |
| Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 12:31pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
Then 007 must be James bonds girlfriend. johnw74: |
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