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| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by felixomor: 3:44pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
CatfishBilly:Chai He still cant even get the law guiding house job... By stipulated time, we mean from date of graduation Not just time spent in the hospital.... No wonder! ![]() |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by butterflylion(op): 3:50pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
felixomor:Felixomor let's even assume a medically induced coma was what was done. Did the medically induced coma cause presence of brain activity or brain activity remained absent during this medically induced coma. If we assume that a medically induced coma was what was done despite the absence of brain activity how did Eben Alexander fully recover without any form of deformity despite the doctors sad prognosis to his wife that he most likely would be in a vegetative state and need a life long medical assistance? So what are we arguing? Even if the doctors placed him in an artificial coma did brain activity resume thereafter prior to his awakening? A medically induced coma only reduces brain activity and does not cease it entirely. In Eben Alexanders case it was ceased entirely with absolutely no brain activity detected. Any way they wish to try and argue this one na Brick wall dem go jam. |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by felixomor: 3:55pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
butterflylion:Honestly Thats why i am even surprised that someone who calls himself a doctor is still arguing trying to swim with paper..... I will mark this thread. Seriously |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by CatfishBilly: 3:57pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
felixomor:Ogbeni you didn't even offer any rebuttal to what I wrote. At least you're a doctor, that's why I'm asking you. Butterflylion own is an illiterate in this field, he has nothing to contribute. that's why I'm facing you. What's your rebuttal to my post about sedation and brain death? What's your rebuttal to my post about misdiagnosis of brain death? What's your rebuttal to these? 1) Doctors in America certify a patient brain dead despite butterflylion claim to the contrary. 2) Dr. Eben wasn't certified brain dead by his doctors. 3) Brain death is an irreversible process, there's no way Dr. Eben would have been brain dead and regained full neurological function. 4) Felixomor is yet to show me my foolish EEG facts. 5) People experiencing NDE can't perceive time which explains why Dr. Eben thinks he was in an NDE for 7 days. 6) The best explanation for Dr. Eben case was that he experienced his NDE as he was regaining cortical function as explained by a neurologist Professor Oliver Wolf Sacks in this link.https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/12/seeing-god-in-the-third-millennium/266134/ 7)EEG aren't really needed to certify a patient brain dead 8.) Still waiting for something tangible. 9) Butterflylion and Felixomor have no clue on how Nigerian housemanship works. Ogbeni how many times do I have to tell you that I didn't school in Nigeria, so those your time frame laws if they exist doesn't apply to me? Na wa oooo |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by 701ecilana: 4:03pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
butterflylion:Hahahahahahahahaha. Biko focus. ![]() |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by felixomor: 4:04pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
CatfishBilly:You earlier dodged a simple question What do you do as a doctor when you detect multiple tracings of no brain activity on EEG of a septic patient? Go and copy your wikipedia and come back Secondly, MDCN has stipulated time for completion of housejob from period of graduation for all doctors Are you a backdoor doctor? And its obvious from your thinking that you think sedation erases brain activity. Olodo, it doesnt. I also remember the lies you told on "mega-stroke" when u ignorantly tried to express sarcasm on mini stroke.... You are the one who has been dodging... |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by 701ecilana: 4:06pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
butterflylion:Kprack kprack, kprack, kprack. That's the sound of my palms clapping for you. |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by 701ecilana: 4:07pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
butterflylion:Kprack, kprack, kprack, kprack. That's the sound of my palms clapping for you. |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by dalaman: 4:11pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
701ecilana:You lied that you didn't have an alt account when asked. You lied that it was your only account. Your man 4everGod did same. In his own case he was caught red handed replying to his other moniker as another person. You guys are shameless. |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by dalaman: 4:12pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
felixomor:His official results doesn't showhis claims are true because Dr Laura Potter denied some of his claims. |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by CatfishBilly: 4:14pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
felixomor:If I see no identifiable tracings, I'll want to evaluate for brain death obviously and that means eliminating confounding agents of which sedation is one of them and your nigga was sedated, yet you geniuses still insist he was brain dead. I never said sedation can lead to absent brain activity, please point where I wrote that. Still yapping about the non-existent mdcn rules. Sarcasm always flies over the head of theists, so it's okay if you didn't understand it. Y'all ain't bright enough. I've answered your questions. Please answer mine. Your rebuttal to my post on brain death and sedation. Your rebuttal to my post on misdiagnosis of brain death. Your rebuttal to these. 1) Doctors in America certify a patient brain dead despite butterflylion claim to the contrary. 2) Dr. Eben wasn't certified brain dead by his doctors. 3) Brain death is an irreversible process, there's no way Dr. Eben would have been brain dead and regained full neurological function. 4) Felixomor is yet to show me my foolish EEG facts. 5) People experiencing NDE can't perceive time which explains why Dr. Eben thinks he was in an NDE for 7 days. 6) The best explanation for Dr. Eben case was that he experienced his NDE as he was regaining cortical function as explained by a neurologist Professor Oliver Wolf Sacks in this link.https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/12/seeing-god-in-the-third-millennium/266134/ 7)EEG aren't really needed to certify a patient brain dead 8.) Still waiting for something tangible. 9) Butterflylion and Felixomor have no clue on how Nigerian housemanship works. I'm patiently waiting. |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by felixomor: 4:15pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
dalaman:Msheww Please Which result is false? |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by felixomor: 4:17pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
CatfishBilly:So you wont do apnea test again ba? Or yOu will still do it |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by CatfishBilly: 4:26pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
felixomor:Ogbeni if there's a presence of a confounding agent, it won't get to apnoea test. Your nigga was sedated that was why he never got the apnoea test because it's against guidelines to certify someone sedated brain dead yet you geniuses still insist that he was brain dead. Felix answer my questions naa, I go call the whole of Nairaland for you ooo. Your rebuttal to my post on brain death and sedation. Your rebuttal to my post on misdiagnosis of brain death. Your rebuttal to these. 1) Doctors in America certify a patient brain dead despite butterflylion claim to the contrary. 2) Dr. Eben wasn't certified brain dead by his doctors. 3) Brain death is an irreversible process, there's no way Dr. Eben would have been brain dead and regained full neurological function. 4) Felixomor is yet to show me my foolish EEG facts. 5) People experiencing NDE can't perceive time which explains why Dr. Eben thinks he was in an NDE for 7 days. 6) The best explanation for Dr. Eben case was that he experienced his NDE as he was regaining cortical function as explained by a neurologist Professor Oliver Wolf Sacks in this link.https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/12/seeing-god-in-the-third-millennium/266134/ 7)EEG aren't really needed to certify a patient brain dead 8.) Still waiting for something tangible. 9) Butterflylion and Felixomor have no clue on how Nigerian housemanship works. |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by felixomor: 4:36pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
CatfishBilly:I can see you are now dodging apnea test. Meanwhile, you were ignorantly looking for it before... You see yourself? It took 2 days to clear that ignorance from u. And u further exposed your ignorance, because u were looking for "certificate of brain death" even when you knew he was sedated. So its obvious u never read the story. And u then ignorantly told us the patient "regained cortical function" after no brain activity on multiple Tracins Just Like a herbalist. Clearly telling us u dont know how neurons operate. As if that one is not enough, U demonstrated u dont know the codes of MDCN Dear, u are not qualified to talk on this topic |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by butterflylion(op): 4:41pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
felixomor:Finally it dawns on you.
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| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by dalaman: 4:41pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
felixomor:Which result show he was brain dead as he claims? |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by felixomor: 4:47pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
dalaman:The multiple electroencephalograms Now show us where his result was shown as fake |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by butterflylion(op): 5:13pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
felixomor:Ask him to interpret the multiple EEG images in the OP and perhaps he would also claim its too tiny to read. Hahahahahahahaha The EEG is one evidence. The other evidence is his actual medical report which contained this below peripheral white blood cell [WBC] count over 27,000 per mm3, 31 percent bands with toxic granulations, CSF WBC count over 4,300 per mm3, CSF glucose down to 1.0 mg/dl (normally 60-80, may drop down to ~ 20 in severe meningitis), CSF protein 1,340 mg/dl, diffuse meningeal involvement and widespread blurring of the gray-white junction, diffuse edema, with associated brain abnormalities revealed on my enhanced CT scan, and neurological exams showing severe alterations in cortical function (from posturing to no response to noxious stimuli, florid papilledema, and dysfunction of extraocular motility [no doll’s eyes, pupils fixed], indicative of brainstem damage). Let him help us interpret that as well. |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by CatfishBilly: 5:22pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
felixomor:I was asking for the tests done to indicate that he was brain dead since you and your genius colleague said he was brain dead, that was why I was looking for apnoea test. Saying someone is brain dead without apnoea test is criminal. I was looking for who certified because it was maddening that someone sedated could be declared brain dead. I wanted to be sure that was why I was looking for it. You guys don't even know what and what goes into certifying someone brain dead. You all have been harping on EEG which isn't even listed as a major criteria. But it flew over the head of you geniuses. Patients have been shown to recover cerebral function after recording flatlines on EEG even your Co dumb genius posted a blog that showed that. People beat prognostic odds all the time. And you still haven't posted this fake mdcn rule that you made up yourself. And you still haven't offered any rebuttal to any of my points. |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by felixomor: 5:46pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
CatfishBilly:Its a lie You were looking for apnea test because you are ignorant And not qualified to manage such patient You were also clutching straws. Just to convince yourself that u r making sense. And there is nothing criminal in confirming a septic patient brain dead with EEG You cant stop lying. CatfishBilly:How can you be looking for who certified when the story clearly says it was only the emergency doctor who had first contact that was interviewed. Another indication, that u dont read. And brain death is a clinical diagnosis. eeg is even high up. Clear your ignorance CatfishBilly:Please stop lying "All the time" indeed Did we say nobody has experienced such miracle before? You are the one who used cassano's mini stroke to compare with dr eben And now you are telling another lie of "all the time" prognosis CatfishBilly:You Still dont want to learn Please search it out. CatfishBilly:Which points? The apnea test ignorance? |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by butterflylion(op): 5:59pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
felixomor:I thought the herbal doctor claimed brain death was irreversible yet he is now holding on to my website reference which showed people who came back after being brain dead. He is now using that to argue that it occurs all the time even after first saying it is irreversible. How many mouth this herbal doctor get Abeg? We were the ones talking about recovery chances being possible while he was the one saying there is absolutely zero recovery chance for anyone with no brain activity seen and now he is trying to claim he was on our side all along with that nonsense he just posted. Shameless liar! The guy is a shameless bold faced liar full stop! I even mentioned here that medically induced coma only reduces brain activity but does not Eliminate it entirely while in Eben Alexanders case he had zero brain activity which was why he said if he was brain dead then it was not reversible and then began this argument on his bed of lies without understanding the medical terms in the prognosis produced by Eben Alexander but claims to be a medical doctor. Why this desperate need for him to lie just to win an argument?
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| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by butterflylion(op): 6:06pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
felixomor:He has actually lost track of all the things he made up on the way so did not know when his lies started becoming apparent. He shot himself at point blank range with a sawed off shotgun multiple times but never knew it and even when shown the big holes created by his own shotgun on his person he makes up another "all the time " statement when his first statement was "never at any time". |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by felixomor: 6:09pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
butterflylion:Honestly The same argument that killed his irreversible brain death claim is now what he is using... Shame! |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by CatfishBilly: 6:17pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
butterflylion:This ignorant guy let me just clear this up before people come here and swallow your falsehood. Brain death is irreversible. Anyone that was previously diagnosed as brain dead and later regained cerebral function was misdiagnosed (the previous diagnosis was wrong) the people in your blog were misdiagnosed as brain dead. I just used it to show that flatline on EEG doesn't necessarily mean brain death. Of course I don't expect you to understand it, you're too dumb to. And no, no doctor diagnosed Dr Eben brain dead because he was fuckkking sedated. How thick can you all be. I've been repeating same thing since. |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by CatfishBilly: 6:21pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
butterflylion:Hey god. Which part of brain death is irreversible and anyone diagnosed as brain dead but regains cerebral function was misdiagnosed don't you theists understand? And yes people beat prognostic odds all the time. Spontaneous remission of cancer is beating prognostic odds. Gosh. |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by felixomor: 6:21pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
CatfishBilly:Your lies keep going like pinnochio: Please how did u confirm the people on the op's link were "misdiagnosed"? I hope u are not this shameless in real life sha? |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by CatfishBilly: 6:23pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
felixomor:The diagnosis of brain death is an irreversible loss of brain function, so if it's not irreversible then it's not brain death. Haba, una dense ooo |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by felixomor: 6:25pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
CatfishBilly:Shut up .... Answer the question How did u confirm the "misdiagnosis" of brain death? |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by superhumanist(m): 6:26pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
CatfishBilly:Been reading this thread from page one. I am starting to see that it is a common tactic for some people to "play dumb". |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by CatfishBilly: 6:30pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
felixomor:Because the loss of brain function wasn't irreversible which is a major criteria in the definition of brain death, so patients were misdiagnosed. Una dense oooo |
| Re: Atheist Neurosurgeon Finds God After Near Death Experience. by felixomor: 6:37pm On Aug 15, 2017 |
CatfishBilly:Keeep shut and read the link u provided And show us where "irreversible" is located in the 4 criteria for brain death l Clinical diagnosis Your problem is not only quackery. You also yell lies. What a shame! |
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