Hi, why are christians scared of The 6th and 7th Books of Moses which is a christian Book?

Hi, why are christians scared of The 6th and 7th Books of Moses which is a christian Book?

The book was just named to decieve people. The contents are not related to the bible. So christians has nothing tio do with the satanic verses of such.

If you have not seen that book before try to compare it with the bible you see that they are two opposite theme.

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The book was just named to decieve people.  The contents are not related to the bible. So christians has nothing tio do with the satanic verses of such.

If you have not seen that book before try to compare it with the bible you see that they are two opposite theme.

The book was not intended to deceive but explain (two different concepts) It refers to cabalistic magic and if you have seen the actual writings, i am assuming you read it for academic purposes only.    The Sixth and Seventh books of Moses consists of a collection of texts which explain the magic that Moses used to win the biblical magic contest with the Egyptian priest-magicians, parted the Red Sea, and other miraculous feats. The best scripts are in Hebrew and there exists some accurate english translations but most have been deficient in many ways, with poorly executed drawings and Hebrew lettering, drawings printed upside down, mistakes in transcription and translation, and other substantial omissions.

I have some passages in pdf if you are interested.

No comments until i read the book.But i dont think magic has anything 2 do wit Moses's miracles.

@lagerwhenindoubt, Thanks for your offer but i already have a copy. Do You practice with this Book? What are Your Experiences?



Christians that see's The Book with me are scared. You will hear something like ''THIS BOOK HAS MADE ALOT OF PEOPLE MAD''     ''YOU ARE TOO SMALL TO BE READING THIS BOOK'' then i was 29 Years, university Graduate. ''THIS BOOK IS TOO POWERFUL''   3years of having this Book, I have not experience anything related to their comments


I came incontact with the Book when i was writing my University Final Year project on This Topic    ''MAGIC AND MIRACLE OF THE JEWS''

This Questions are for the practitioners of The 6th and 7th Books of Mose :- Have You been successful in all the Experiments in the Book and what are Your Experiences?

Thank You

Curiousmind:

Hi, why are christians scared of The 6th and 7th Books of Moses which is a christian Book?

It is not a Christian book, even if it was originally written by the Hebrew Leader, Moses which in itself is a highly unlikely matter.

A Christian book makes reference to God's ultimate plan on the altogether salvation of mankind through Christ, unraveled through the ages. Those books on magic have nothing to do with Christianity, or with the Christ in Essence, or in Person as Jesus. So they are not Christian books.

And for the record, it's a grossly odious generalization to say that "Christians are scared of the 6th and 7th books of Moses". I for one, am a Christian. And I'm not scared of any book, even books beyond this 6th and 7th farce; darker books of black magical arts, and miasmal grimoires.

A book is a book, and it's the application of your soul and spirit to the contents that makes or mars you.

In my honest opinion, this particular one will not do you any good.

Cheers.

I have read sixth, seventh, eight, ninth and tenth books of moses. Though I aint a xtian, but i can boldly tell you that it aint a xtian literature. It's got to do with mysticism, black magic. It contains mystical symbols and magical words of incantations. The symbols are to be drawn on animal parchment with a special ink for that purpose, and later washed and drank and while in others use as amulets.

I will advise that someone that is not bold enough should read it. But for those who love adventures, it will prove to be worth while, but meanwhile I dont read it anymore, but I still know some of what it contains like love charms, making you to be favored than others, getting back at your enemies e.t.c.

This book is still being use by some spiritual highway men in christendom especially in those &*^5$ garments churches, and even some in the islamic sects do use them.

InesQor:

It is not a Christian book, even if it was originally written by the Hebrew Leader, Moses which in itself is a highly unlikely matter.

A Christian book makes reference to God's ultimate plan on the altogether salvation of mankind through Christ, unraveled through the ages. Those books on magic have nothing to do with Christianity, or with the Christ in Essence, or in Person as Jesus. So they are not Christian books.

And for the record, it's a grossly odious generalization to say that "Christians are scared of the 6th and 7th books of Moses". I for one, am a Christian. And I'm not scared of any book, even books beyond this 6th and 7th farce; darker books of black magical arts, and miasmal grimoires.

A book is a book, and it's the application of your soul and spirit to the contents that makes or mars you.

In my honest opinion, this particular one will not do you any good.

Cheers.

Amen!!! very true

Curiousmind:

@lagerwhenindoubt, Thanks for your offer but i already have a copy. Do You practice with this Book? What are Your Experiences?



Christians that see's The Book with me are scared. You will hear something like ''THIS BOOK HAS MADE ALOT OF PEOPLE MAD''     ''YOU ARE TOO SMALL TO BE READING THIS BOOK'' then i was 29 Years, university Graduate. ''THIS BOOK IS TOO POWERFUL''   3years of having this Book, I have not experience anything related to their comments


I came in contact with the Book when i was writing my University Final Year project on This Topic    ''MAGIC AND MIRACLE OF THE JEWS''

This Questions are for the practitioners of The 6th and 7th Books of Mose :- Have You been successful in all the Experiments in the Book and what are Your Experiences?

Thank You

A man of the arts. it does feel refreshing to know that some people have the maturity to keep an open mind. 6/7th books of moses (there is no 8,9,10 as mentioned some uninformed).

I keep a collection of Grimoires for the purpose of illumination. I am of the opinion that a bulk of the arts are diluted, hidden through mistranslation or misinterpretaion and carry mistakes (maybe for a reason) and make-shift ceremonial literature. with some time to study, one can reveal What, How and Why Magick works and its origins and connection to man.

The Goetia, Lesser Key of Solomon (popularly known as lemegeton) is my concentration and I find it truly astonishing. 

@lagerwhenindoubt: The Goetia, first book of the Lemegeton, was probably plagiarised from John Wier's Pseudomonarchia daemonum in his 1563 De Praestigiis Daemonum volumes. The illiterate author of the Lemegeton simply added some elaborate rituals to the simple conjurations that John Wier stated is used to invoke demons to do "good and/or evil". He also added demonic seals.

I say the author of the Lemegeton was probably illiterate because his Latin was rather poor. He tried to associate the Lemegeton with the Clavicula Salomonis (Key of Solomon), an extant book of magick, so he called his own the "Little Key of Solomon;" this became, in his poor Latin, "Lemegeton Clavicula Salomonis."

That said, there are four other books in the Lemegeton, and not only the Goetia. There is the Theurgia Goetia, Ars Paulina, Ars Almadel, and the Ars Notoria. Saying the Goetia is the Lemegeton is as inaccurate as saying there are 8th, 9th and 10th books of Moses

InesQor:

That said, there are four other books in the Lemegeton, and not only the Goetia. There is the Theurgia Goetia, Ars Paulina, Ars Almadel, and the Ars Notoria. Saying the Goetia is the Lemegeton is as inaccurate as saying there are 8th, 9th and 10th books of Moses

The Goetia - Lesser Key of Solomon [b](popularly known as lemegeton) i[/b]s my concentration and I find it truly astonishing.

I did not say it was

@lagerwhenindoubt: Okay then. I thought the hyphen meant you were saying the Goetia is the Lesser Key of Solomon. Cheers.

@poster
continue to deceive yourself,about some books of moses.
i hope you realise that it is solely for the sake of acceptablity, that the devil preffers to use the bible and GOD's name in his texts,can you imagine how many people will actually read the book if called "the book of satan" or beelzebub's thoughts" or somehing of that nature.

calling some books of moses part of the bible,is the same thing as believing that dead people come to live as ghosts to haunt,speak to loved ones e.t.c when it is obvious that they are familiar spirits the devil is using to deceive.
if you are resident in the united kingdom,i will suggest you watch sky 531 by 11pm or thereabouts,and you will hear the experiences of those who have dabbled into dark arts and how they have been possesed and their bodies,souls and sprit taken over by the said spirit.

as for those telling you they have read it and all that,i l advice you to ask them what good it has brought them,has it brought them riches,wealth e.t.c?after all if you ask pastor adeboye,oyedepo,tunde akare e.t.c what good the holy spirit has brought them,it is clear to see

I can’t believe that reasonable people can believe such assertions.

Exodus.22.18
Put to death any woman who practices magic.

Deuteronomy.18.10
Don’t let your people practice divination or look for omens or use spells or charms, and don’t let them consult the spirits of the dead.

Could this be the same Moses who practiced magic? No! But if you think so I pray that the scales drop from your eyes brain.

Thou shall not judge


How many posters criticesingThis Book have actualy read it?

How many christians knows the Names of the 12 Archangels of God?

How many christians knows the 10 Emanations of God?

My people suffereth because they lack wisdom

In everything You do seek wisdom

Nice Topic, keep it rolling but dont step on someones free will because God has Given us free will

Many people have killed, fought wars (Jihad) under the umbrella of religion

What is black magic?
->pacts with Demons


What is white magic?
->Miracles using Angelic powers

What is magic?
-> Trickery

So dont confuse Yourself with the word ''magic''

Everything has laws, so is magic. Magic is nether Good or Bad. It all depends on the mystic. Example :- Gun can be used for self Defence, murder, suicide etc but it abuse and usefulness is controlled by the law of the land

This book is meant for the priest (initiate) not for the massess. Reasons are, it should not be abuse. This is the reason why few pastors perform miracles (Transcendental magic) and other pastors/christians cant because they know what their church members/other christians/other pastors dont know

Reading this Book doesnt make You spiritual Though. You can read it 1 million Times and You will still be the same

The secret to unlock those Names of God in these Book are Holiness,Faith and practice because practice make perfect

Summon Non physical entities to appear visibly forcefuly can cause imbalance (mental Breakdown) especialy when You are not holy

Communication with Your Guardian Angel (Holy Ghost) is the first step to Enlightment

All human Beings have Guardian Angels but we cant see them because we have not developed our spiritual faculties


Stay Bless

thank you all for enlightening me more about this book.there was a time i am was eager to read this book thesame time scared.but now i tink i dont need to read the book again.but please can someone relate this 7 book of moses wit the way some ppl use psalm as incantation. I HOPE AM NOT OFF TOPIC OO

Kabbalah (Hebrew: קַבָּלָה‎, lit. "receiving" is a discipline and school of thought concerned with the mystical aspect of Judaism. It is a set of esoteric teachings meant to explain the relationship between an eternal/mysterious Creator and the mortal/finite universe (His creation). While it is heavily used by some denominations, it is not a denomination in of itself; it is a set of scriptures that exist outside the Scriptures. Kabbalah seeks to define the nature of the universe and the human being, the nature and purpose of existence, and various other ontological questions. It also presents methods to aid understanding of these concepts and to thereby attain spiritual realization. Kabbalah originally developed entirely within the realm of Jewish thought and constantly uses classical Jewish sources to explain and demonstrate its esoteric teachings. These teachings are thus held by kabbalists to define the inner meaning of both the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible) and traditional rabbinic literature, as well as to explain the significance of Jewish religious observances.[1]

What is the relationship between kabbalah and th sixth and seventh books of Moses? they both seem to be dealing with Jewish mystism.

The book was not intended to deceive but explain (two different concepts) It refers to cabalistic magic and if you have seen the actual writings, i am assuming you read it for academic purposes only. The Sixth and Seventh books of Moses consists of a collection of texts which explain the magic that Moses used to win the biblical magic contest with the Egyptian priest-magicians, parted the Red Sea, and other miraculous feats. The best scripts are in Hebrew and there exists some accurate english translations but most have been deficient in many ways, with poorly executed drawings and Hebrew lettering, drawings printed upside down, mistakes in transcription and translation, and other substantial omissions.

I have some passages in pdf if you are interested.

I am happy you testified to the book as a book of magic. Moses did not use any magic, the Egyptians used magic and it was clear in the bible that the Pharaoh magicians tried to prove Moses wrong. Egypt is a country that sees magic as a skill. Magic is abomination to GOd.

However, in the book in question, I have gone through the contents and have found that it has no relationship with the word of God "Bible". All you see in the name of the book is to deceive people into believing that the book is and extract from the bible.

I put it to you my brother, that book only explained the art of magic.

;d ;d ;d ;d

@otitokoro1

I did not wish to drag the issue to another observation but since you insisted,
In ancient times in Egypt, Magicians are recognized primarily by their long magic staff, that is what you now see in movies for roles of Wizards.

Moses had a long flowing white beard according to Bible literature (having seen God Face-Face)
Moses had a long Rod/Staff that has its own Magical (Cosmic or Supernatural) origins
Moses performed all of his Miracles with the Rod being a central focus of his performance (Striking his rod t part the red sea, striking his rod to bring water out of a rock, holding it up for people to be healed when bitten by snakes, changing the rod into snakes to eat up the pharaohs magicians snakes) Keep all these in mind when you think about moses

These are exact parallels to arts in Magick of the Egyptians and some other thing you should consider is:

Moses was born Israeli but grew up Egyptian and the practice of magic was passed down to him as it was to all Egyptian children from generation to generation. "Moses was educated in all the learning of the Egyptians, and he was a man of power in words and deeds." - Acts 7:22

There is no doubt that Moses was a "Man of God" but if you follow his biblical adventure up till his death, Moses had learned that the wooden rod he carried with him had power to do miracles in front of Pharaoh and his magicians. He had come to depend upon the rod (magic wand, walking stick), so when he got to a crisis situation, he used the rod and his intention to part the waters of the Red Sea. Noting the tools he used, and his background in Egypt, Moses was probably considered a wizard or man of magic.

After leading a group of ordinary people in the desert for many days, the people were thirsty and demanded the "Man of God with the Magic Rod" to do something to remedy the situation. You will remember in an earlier account when God first spoke to Moses and told him that he would lead the people out of bondage, that Moses had a bit of reservation about his speaking abilities. God granted that Moses' brother, Aaron, would go with him on the mission and be the spokesman to Pharaoh. In the situation of providing water for the Israelites, Moses was told by God to speak to the rock. Moses spoke to a rock and it brought forth water for the people to drink. The next time the people (still griping and fussing) needed water, he was again to speak to the rock to perform the miracle and manifest water where there was none. Instead of speaking to the rock, Moses smote or struck the rock, with his rod. What kind of faith did he have at that point? His faith was in his magic wand or walking stick.

The Bible mentions that God was upset about this. Why? Moses had become accustomed to using tools of divination to work miracles.

Have you asked yourself the difference between Magick and Miracles, between the Supernatural and the Occult they have two cosmic sources but are one and the same practice (MAGICK)

Also ask yourself what Jesus did while hiding (from Herod) in Egypt all the years before he came back to his home town.

In ancient times in Egypt, Magicians are recognized primarily by their long magic staff, that is what you now see in movies for roles of Wizards.

Moses had a long flowing white beard according to Bible literature (having seen God Face-Face)
Moses had a long Rod/Staff that has its own Magical (Cosmic or Supernatural) origins
Moses performed all of his Miracles with the Rod being a central focus of his performance (Striking his rod t part the red sea, striking his rod to bring water out of a rock, holding it up for people to be healed when bitten by snakes, changing the rod into snakes to eat up the pharaohs magicians snakes) Keep all these in mind when you think about moses

I don't think you are right my brother. I was priviledge to attend a programme in Senegal sometime i.e "Pan African Youth Forum" I met some number of Youths from Egypt and they are performing some simple magics. I so inquisitive asked them if they are Magicians, they said no, magic is a skill that interested person can learn. They even offered to teach me some basic ones but I was afraid. So it is not issue of rod that symbolises magicians those guys were not holding any rod with them.

Please I would want you to get more information and do not base your argument on assumption as I can see you only assuming most of your points. Be more sceintific in your presentation on this matter.

Sis and seven book of moses were magical book that was compiled by some intellectuals to introduce people who have interest in dark art to to connect soem fallen angels (Demon).

www.asiya.org/athenaeum/Seventh_Book_of_Moses.pdf+6th+and+7th+book+of+moses&hl=en&gl=ng&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiWDX1glEsGroNJgGBye87BL0Sjra8aHaaf7zUxnBJScAbCwa--pOmLjJT9xQuB6HId1eRzrk0SHZsnfOwgox7w_M1HIsaZvLMTtGswbyByPSTNeUUsLbRPmVSVss9a9ZG6J1JH&sig=AHIEtbTX9qSiO2rcDCGAxVsIpEo6BN5r5g">http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:n0Mc0nicloMJ:www.asiya.org/athenaeum/Seventh_Book_of_Moses.pdf+6th+and+7th+book+of+moses&hl=en&gl=ng&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiWDX1glEsGroNJgGBye87BL0Sjra8aHaaf7zUxnBJScAbCwa--pOmLjJT9xQuB6HId1eRzrk0SHZsnfOwgox7w_M1HIsaZvLMTtGswbyByPSTNeUUsLbRPmVSVss9a9ZG6J1JH&sig=AHIEtbTX9qSiO2rcDCGAxVsIpEo6BN5r5g

Let me quickly note here that Rod of Moses was meant for his sheep read the story well. Moses was a shepphard

Please I would want you to get more information and do not base your argument on assumption as I can see you only assuming most of your points. Be more sceintific in your presentation on this matter.

How is my post based on assumptions? I have come to realise that you do not reason in a logical nor scientific manner, what i presented is a historical record (from the Bible) and actual evidence from the study of Egyptology. I sincerely doubt you can equate recent Egyptian practices with ancient ones, definitely things would have evolved. but since you have decided not to keep an open mind. I shall leave this matter to your judgment.

How is my post based on assumptions?

You are linking Miracle with magic may be you do not know? You are connecting (Moses & Jesus) to art of Magic. You fail to realise that Magic involve conjoring and miracle does not.

Miracle and magic are not the same.

Try and read the tread i posted earlier it may give you good understanding of the book in question.

thanks.

@Otitokoro1
Explian the magic performance of the Egyptians in Senegal and The did the Egyptians magicians Tell You that they were practitioners of The 6th and 7th Books of Moses?

@Pussyhunter
Thanks for Explaining to us the meaining of ''WHITE MAGICK'' ''BLACK MAGICK'' ''MAGIC''

Keep it coming

Though this topic is old now, for the benefit of those who might still pop back to view or those just passing by, I thought I throw in a few truths. Nobody knows where any scripture really came from or whether it is true or false. When the bible is read, it is obvious that there are a lot of gaps. One might assume that a lot of stuff has been taken out in order to clean it up and make it a magic free book. Miracles and magic are the same however magic can be done by tricking those who dont know the art ie pure physical tricks. Magic can be split up into physical tricks and miracles. Magic is a tool used by pastors, priests and anyone seen to do these feats. Some people are born able to carry out magical activities but it dont mean they are Godly people.

Like our fore fathers had there magic so did other cultures and people have theirs. We learn from the bible written for us that our God takes time and steps to do things eg 7 days to create the earth, several plagues to release the Isrealites, etc. Why does Moses need to stick a staff into the river to part it? has they approached the river, God can just part it for them cant He? It is quite clear from many of the passages that magic is a tool for achieving something and that things dont just happen.

@Curious mind,pls how do get dis book? Contact me.

You can get The 6th and 7th Books of Moses from http://sunshinebookseller..com/

otitokoro1:
I was priviledge to attend a programme in Senegal sometime i.e "Pan African Youth Forum" I met some number of Youths from Egypt and they are performing some simple magics. I so inquisitive asked them if they are Magicians, they said no, magic is a skill that interested person can learn. They even offered to teach me some basic ones but I was afraid.

Magic is perceieved differently depending on who you approach; the professional magician is merely an artist/entertainer that makes use of trickery. Whilst there is the mystic side of things that people also tend to call magic.

If magic answered to colour it would probably be see-through (as in colourless).

With the genuis and the higly trained, there remains a thin line between physical tricks and miracles and magic. I agree with the mystiques in magic and miracles eventhough in my opinion they can actually be one and the same thing.

Reading anything outside of the holy Bible, (that is, Genesis to Revelations), is a mistake. The Lord GOD knows precisely what HE inspired to be written and has full control of what constitutes the Bible, HIS holy word. Despite attempts to deceive with extra material. Pls, stick to the Bible.

"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." - Rev 22:18-19

HISchild:

Reading anything outside of the holy Bible, (that is, Genesis to Revelations), is a mistake.

Says who?