ChrisKels:


If u truly were there at kickoff ( which I was one of the e-war Lords fighting Ghanaians and SAs), then u must know this moniker "denonso1", the exact replica of honorable sir Forgiveness here. I miss Game147 and my fellow warrior Colynzo though

maidaboi:
he is good

Petrobros:


You and forgiveness are obviously from the same ethnic group. This is just a solidarity comment.

safarigirl:
is England not foreign? A person being pro-England, does it no mean pro-foreign?

That you haven't noticed me continually say Komekn likes 'borough' players cements my observation that you have not been following this thread judiciously...

Icon4s:


Excuse me.

Please don't bring me into this current matter.

I have been on this thread now since inception and I can tell you I know the thinking pattern of almost everyone here.

You don't need to defend anybody. Let him defend himself except if you are telling us you share same sentiments with him.

He went on self imposed exile and we have been enjoying discussions without seeing that word 'tribalism'. He is back and that word keeps coming up.
Even accusing Rohr of cultism just because he didn't include certain players from a certain part of the country. I don't blame anyone for accusing him of tribalism.

Icon4s:


When he is clearly accusing the coaching crew and the NFF of favoring a particular section of the country? You close your eyes to such statements?

If what we will spend the whole time discussing or arguing here is tribalism rather than match tactics, I think it is time for some of us to move on.

Let it turn to a thread where people only come to complain about how the coaches and NFF are short changing a particular section of the country.

Petrobros:


You and forgiveness are obviously from the same ethnic group. This is just a solidarity comment.

Icon4s:


Joseph1013 tell me this is not a tribal comment.

Petrobros:

joseph1013 who has dissapointedly become your attorney also accused you of being a defender of "awon omo Odua". Joseph I lie? So why the turn around. It is very obvious you are both tribes men.

joseph1013:

You think he's wrong? Then bring forth your argument. As long as he is not attacking you and calling you names, there is no need to take it personal. Call him out on his comment and ask him to proof his assertion.

It becomes a tribal comment if he is unable to substantiate his claims. Why not ask him first?

joseph1013:

This is a public forum and people can come and go as they wish. He can go on exile and come as he wishes. If he is back and you think he says something you don't agree with, it's lazy to use the tribalism tag.

I called you out because I know you started it. Prior to that time, it was fact for fact and the best man usually wins, or we just get tired of the argument and move to other matters. It was a needless trend you started. Who cares where anyone is from here? I surely don't, so whoever starts with tribal tags is sure to get on my nerves and you asking me to say my mind on this matter all in the name of the same tribal tag is another show of shame. Again, counter fact with fact. If you think he is undeserving of your attention, wakapass. How many times do we wakapass posts of people who promote bets here?

maidaboi:
forgiveness my guy
you don come back?

Icon4s:


Tell me who started using the word "Nepotism" here.

A person that will clearly come here to say a particular set of players being in or excluded from the team is due to nepotism.

He accused Siasia of nepotism. And when Rohr and Salisu came on stream he also accused them of nepotism. I had to tease him with words like " I can see Rohr is from Anambra and Salisu is from Imo".

A person that clearly says Daniel Akpeyi and Ikechukwu Ezenwa are in the team because an Alloy Agu is the goal keeper coach.

If you don't see tribal sentiments in what he says then you are in solidarity with him. Simple.

forgiveness:


Hahahahahah!

Honestly speaking, I just dey peep this thread before I see where people dey clamor for the exclusion of Onazi, Simon Moses and Ahmed Musa because they believe they were called based on past glory theory but when I begin teach dem say pass glory theory no go favour dem bois, and wen dey begin see see facts, na em dem eyes clear, come dey call me tribalist.

I am just taking them by their theory but they are now fighting tooth and nail to save dem bois from the same theory dey coined.

If the aforementioned players are 'past glory' then I am right to say Iheanacho, Onyekuru, Iwobi etcetera etcetera are past glory players according to their theory (nobi my own ooo) because they have done nothing of note this season.

About me coming back, I dey kampe full ground.

Humility017:
Aaron Samuel called to replace iwobi due to an undisclosed injury he sustained...
and Uche Agbo of standard liege called to camp...

source: All Nigeria Football

bossto:
I guess you meant he was good!!...or has he been fit after undergoing the surgical operation?

Icon4s:


Excuse me.

Please don't bring me into this current matter.

I have been on this thread now since inception and I can tell you I know the thinking pattern of almost everyone here.

You don't need to defend anybody. Let him defend himself except if you are telling us you share same sentiments with him.

He went on self imposed exile and we have been enjoying discussions without seeing that word 'tribalism'. He is back and that word keeps coming up.
Even accusing Rohr of cultism just because he didn't include certain players from a certain part of the country. I don't blame anyone for accusing him of tribalism.

Icon4s:


Recall his comment when asked abt y he took Adepoju(hu was virtually called back frm retirement) and Opabunmi to the 2002 WC when it was obvious they were nt good enough at that time to make d team.Remember he dropped Finidi George, Sunday Oliseh, Tijani Babangida and Victor Ikpeba. The Nigerian press tagged him a tribalist nt jst bc he picked Opabunmi and Adepoju ahead of the above mentioned Golden generation Eagles bt bc of the ethnocentric reason behind his decision. It was d Ibadan connection though Onigbinde is from Modakeke bt was based in Ibadan jst like Adepoju and Opabunmi.

U remember what he said when appointed Shooting stars coach for the 2003/2004 season? He said he wanted to build a 3SC team that will comprise only of the Yoruba players. 3SC managed to escape relegation that season and Onigbinde was fired .
Have u noticed he is d last Yoruba to coach d Super Eagles.

Although i still respect that man a lot. U know he laid d foundation for the rise of Gambian football.

goldfish80:

Makes sense to call an extra body in defence. We were one man short from the initial list. I wonder what Rohr and the technical committee were thinking before publishing the first list.
Iwobi wasn't going to get in the pitch in these type of games anyway.

maidaboi:
he is fit and has played a couple of matches which he started

joseph1013:

It's common knowledge that Siasia has his boys.*I cannot begin to name the number of people that have written about that here. You have used "Siasia boys" a couple of times in our threads. How is his own different? Can you also be accused of what you accuse him of?

Anyone rooting for Alampasu here has directly or indirectly inferred that Agu is incompetent and it is his incompetence that has made Akpeyi and Ezenwa mainstays in the Eagles. What has he said differently?

If instead of asking him to proof his comments about public officers and entities, your first recourse is to accused him of tribalism, then it is fairly safe to conclude that you are tribalistic yourself and one that would shut down all dialogue do we do not get to the bottom of an issue.

Icon4s:


I recall telling forgiveness that I accused Siasia of having his boys. Same goes for Keshi but I never called it Nepotism. Look at the mix of boys we call Siasia's boys are they all from one Ethnic group? But forgiveness called it Nepotism reasons for which we know.

You can call me a tribalist for all you care. You can ignore any tribalist chants from your Allie also but we know the truth.

forgiveness:




Hahahahahah! An initiator, an actor, a mover and a perpetrator of tribalism trying so hard to exempt himself from his evil devices.

How can you be forgotten so soon, just like that, and not be not be remembered for you inventory skills in the act of tribalism, oh ha!?

Your report card is ready. It's yours but some of your cronies are sympathetically behind you despite your obvious title bestowed on your head as a crown, written 'I AM THE KING OF TRIBALISM'.

forgiveness:


Who are the we?

List dem for the world to see. I hope they are not from your.....?

Icon4s:


I recall telling forgiveness that I accused Siasia of having his boys. Same goes for Keshi but I never called it Nepotism. Look at the mix of boys we call Siasia's boys are they all from one Ethnic group? But forgiveness called it Nepotism reasons for which we know.

You can call me a tribalist for all you care. You can ignore any tribalist chants from your Allie also but we know the truth.

joseph1013:

You think he's wrong? Then bring forth your argument. As long as he is not attacking you and calling you names, there is no need to take it personal. Call him out on his comment and ask him to prove his assertion.

It becomes a tribal comment if he is unable to substantiate his claims. Why not ask him first?

On another note, I know you both do turn it personal on occasion when you engage, and on that you will not see me put my mouth. I don't care. Slug it out. Your cup of tea, both of you!

But I see no reason to take it personal when he is attacking NFF, the coaches, or any other person who is a public officer or entity. He has a stake being a Nigerian and it is only by trading facts that others will see him for the fool you think he is, if he is one, not this annoying labeling that is perforating this thread.

joseph1013:

LOL. I'm Yoruba because I ask that whoever opposes him should counter with facts and not muddle the water with name-calling? Is that how tribes fall on people? So next time I defend another person from another tribe, I become a member of his tribe? It's that easy? Show some intellectual acuity na? This is obviously a shallow attempt at engaging intelligently in the discourse.

bossto:
ok...thanks and i must also commend you for contributing so much to this forum,and enlightening some of us here..

Icon4s:


Chai. So what paints me as a tribalist from that comment. I only stated the antecedents that played out then.

I am not a member of the NFF board. I just stated the obvious about the coaching appointments.

joseph1013:


That you did not call the term does not mean you have not used it. Nepotism simply means favoritism shown to relatives or friends. If you have used "Siasia boys", you have inadvertently called Siasia nepotic. So how are you different from him?

And this to me is the crux of the matter. With your many words, you have not given ONE proof that shows he is tribalistic. Just provide ONE. Because the same person that you say is always for Kayode and Aina is the same person attacking those against Onazi, Simon and Musa. Are these also his tribesmen?

Just provide ONE undeniable proof that he is tribalistic. Something to show that he is what you are not guilty of.