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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Gavrelino123: 10:38am On Sep 06, 2017
NL1960:
I do not use GTB online banking as i did not register for it. I have the debit alert on my account as well as the TB advice by email.
I dint even get any advice email....
My Accounting officer showed me the one she has with her on her system...which shows that it has been treated....but it has not been updated in my Treasury bills account...that's my worry
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by NL1960: 10:50am On Sep 06, 2017
chyima:
there is something I noticed about GTb rate it has never exceeded 18.1%,since the beginning of this year.is this on purpose or they trade above this rate and 'hijack' the excess above that for their company gain.
I had to start using Stanbic when it was becoming consistent,who else has noticed it
I equally use Stanbic. I had the option of moving the funds to Stanbic but decided against it as the difference is not much. Stanbic is my main bank. I opened the GTB account for a purpose and when the amount was substantial, i decided to use it for TB with them while i still continue the purpose.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by pafra(m): 11:56am On Sep 06, 2017
I invested 3m in treasury bills for 182 days at 17%. The maturity date is Nov 4th.

What is the procedure for termination?
How much will be deducted from the said capital?

Urgent reply.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by RealityShot: 12:10pm On Sep 06, 2017
Xlpacks:
Hello guys,
I've heard a lot about TB and Mutual Fund. There are some questions I would love to ask before I dive into any of the two.
1: which one pays more interest?
2: can I withdraw my money even before the maturity date? (Incase of emergency)
3: which one is more secure?
4: What's the minimum amount to be invested?
5: will the interest be paid directly into my bank account or will I need a new account for it?
6: which Bank offers the best rate?
1. TBills
2. Yes in both
3. TBills
4. TBills ~100k : Mfund ~5k
5. Yes ..directly same acct
6. Stanbic IBTC
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 12:16pm On Sep 06, 2017
RealityShot:
1. TBills
2. Yes in both
3. TBills
4. TBills ~100k : Mfund ~5k
5. Yes ..directly same acct
6. Stanbic IBTC
OK.. Thank you. I will visit stanbic when I'm chance
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by RealityShot: 12:20pm On Sep 06, 2017
pafra:
I invested 3m in treasury bills for 182 days at 17%. The maturity date is Nov 4th.

What is the procedure for termination?
How much will be deducted from the said capital?

Urgent reply.
no money is "deducted" from your Capital.

the deduction is done on your Interest earned so far.

you have earned about 200k after 5 months..

If you terminate now, you will be charged ~5% on that 200k gained.

So 3m - 10k = 2.99m will be returned to you.

Therefore you still make ~190k overall.
NO CAPITAL LOSS

FOR TERMINATION:
go back to the officer who did the TBills for you and tell him you want to terminate.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by paradice: 1:28pm On Sep 06, 2017
When is the next TB auction?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ihedioramma: 2:59pm On Sep 06, 2017
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by punae: 3:46pm On Sep 06, 2017
please experts in the house.. in need of advice... Uba were unable to rollover my investment due to excuses I cannot understand but they are offering 323 days tenor at the secondary market or I should bear with them and wait for the next auction...which of the suggestion is business wise?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by AkDave1: 3:57pm On Sep 06, 2017
What is the rate on offer?
punae:
please experts in the house.. in need of advice... Uba were unable to rollover my investment due to excuses I cannot understand but they are offering 323 days tenor at the secondary market or I should bear with them and wait for the next auction...which of the suggestion is business wise?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Gavrelino123: 6:09pm On Sep 06, 2017
punae:
please experts in the house.. in need of advice... Uba were unable to rollover my investment due to excuses I cannot understand but they are offering 323 days tenor at the secondary market or I should bear with them and wait for the next auction...which of the suggestion is business wise?
Of the rate is reasonable, then go with it....!
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by damoche64: 6:38pm On Sep 06, 2017
pafra:
I invested 3m in treasury bills for 182 days at 17%. The maturity date is Nov 4th.

What is the procedure for termination?
How much will be deducted from the said capital?

Urgent reply.
Can u revert back to the forum when u finish terminating your tbill for others to learn.

Goodluck
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by punae: 7:34pm On Sep 06, 2017
Gavrelino123:
Of the rate is reasonable, then go with it....!
18%......And considering the amount am investing I tend to gain 100k if I am successful at the primary market??
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Houstency(m): 7:35pm On Sep 06, 2017
pafra:
I invested 3m in treasury bills for 182 days at 17%. The maturity date is Nov 4th.

What is the procedure for termination?
How much will be deducted from the said capital?

Urgent reply.
Simply write a letter to your bank's branch manager, titled termination of NTbills grin, and if you're around for quick replies, you would be shown available rates and you have the final say. But most times you would get less than the amount you invested, since your interest have been paid to you upfront.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by punae: 7:35pm On Sep 06, 2017
AkDave1:
What is the rate on offer?
18%
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Gavrelino123: 7:40pm On Sep 06, 2017
punae:
18%......And considering the amount am investing I tend to gain 100k if I am successful at the primary market??
Mehn Go for it......it's a good one...
Stories might come in next Primary Auction..!!
I advise you go with it...
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Ibukun003(m): 8:01pm On Sep 06, 2017
Houstency:
Simply write a letter to your bank's branch manager, titled termination of NTbills grin, and if you're around for quick replies, you would be shown available rates and you have the final say. But most times you would get less than the amount you invested, since your interest have been paid to you upfront.
Was this successful?
And which bank please?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 9:02pm On Sep 06, 2017
emmanuelewumi:
Foreign currency, stocks, real estate, gold, have a business, etc
How does investment in gold work?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by katamo: 9:09pm On Sep 06, 2017
freeman67:
How does investment in gold work?
You don't have to buy the actual gold. You can buy an index fund or exchange traded fund that will move the same way as gold prices.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 9:11pm On Sep 06, 2017
katamo:
You don't have to buy the actual gold. You can buy an index fund or exchange traded fund that will move the same way as gold prices.
Thanks bro but I will still need more input from Oga Emma
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 9:17pm On Sep 06, 2017
got debited today, first bank. how long more before I get my interest
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Kevostica(m): 9:38pm On Sep 06, 2017
Gurus in the house i appreciate the good work u people are doing here. What is diff buying TB in primary and secondary mkt. which is good to go for?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by walexlo78: 10:04pm On Sep 06, 2017
Hello GT customers, please don't panic about your investment not showing on your internet banking platform, it's the least of things that should worry you. It's a system glitch and you will wàke up one day to see it again. Am sure you would have received an electronic debit àlert and possibly investment statement. One thing you should ensure is to get your investment certificate always done on their letter head. I am a gtb customer for 13yrs and deal in TB with them since some years now so I have experienced several including this one.

However, I stopped dealing in TB with them because they started playing games. Example, in the last auction they offered 364days to investors at 18.1% as mentioned here while stanbic offered 18.28% thereabout. That's a big gap, it appears they are making some spread on investors fund because I do not see reason why they would bid this low at 18.1% when the last marginal rate from upper week's bid was about 18.5%.

Gavrelino123:
Good morning
Have you checked if it's reflecting on your Treasury Bills online banking Account..?
I'm worried because mine is not still reflecting only my old investments maturing next month is there..
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by walexlo78: 10:15pm On Sep 06, 2017
Hello GT customers, please don't panic about your investment not showing on your internet banking platform, it's the least of things that should worry you. It's a system glitch and you will wàke up one day to see it again. Am sure you would have received an electronic debit àlert and possibly investment statement. One thing you should ensure is to get your investment certificate always done on their letter head. I am a gtb customer for more than 10yrs and deal in TB with them since some years now so I have experienced several including this one.

However, I stopped dealing in TB with them because they started playing games. Example, in the last auction they offered 364days to investors at 18.1% as mentioned here while stanbic offered 18.28% thereabout. That's a big gap, it appears they are making some spread on investors fund because I do not see reason why they would bid this low at 18.1% when the last marginal rate from upper week's bid was about 18.5%.

Gavrelino123:
Good morning
Have you checked if it's reflecting on your Treasury Bills online banking Account..?
I'm worried because mine is not still reflecting only my old investments maturing next month is there..
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by walexlo78: 10:24pm On Sep 06, 2017
Good observation NL, this is also part of the post I just shared now. Those guys are playing a terrible game there. I am still looking for that CBN regulation that allows banks or any agency to make spread on investors capital apart from those known statutory fees for TB.

chyima:
there is something I noticed about GTb rate it has never exceeded 18.1%,since the beginning of this year.is this on purpose or they trade above this rate and 'hijack' the excess above that for their company gain.
I had to start using Stanbic when it was becoming consistent,who else has noticed it
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by lancee(m): 10:45pm On Sep 06, 2017
Gavrelino123:
Good evening...
Any updates.?
Checked few mins ago ..its reflecting now amongst the rest ..Yours should be showing now as well
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Gavrelino123: 10:52pm On Sep 06, 2017
walexlo78:
Hello GT customers, please don't panic about your investment not showing on your internet banking platform, it's the least of things that should worry you. It's a system glitch and you will wàke up one day to see it again. Am sure you would have received an electronic debit àlert and possibly investment statement. One thing you should ensure is to get your investment certificate always done on their letter head. I am a gtb customer for 13yrs and deal in TB with them since some years now so I have experienced several including this one.

However, I stopped dealing in TB with them because they started playing games. Example, in the last auction they offered 364days to investors at 18.1% as mentioned here while stanbic offered 18.28% thereabout. That's a big gap, it appears they are making some spread on investors fund because I do not see reason why they would bid this low at 18.1% when the last marginal rate from upper week's bid was about 18.5%.
Thanks and God bless you.......It really disturbs me whenever i think of it.....I will visit my branch tomorrow to collect my Investment Certificate.....!!!!
Because I dint get the Investment letter by Mail i only got the Debited discounted principal....!!
I just can't wait for them to fix the system glitch..
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Houstency(m): 10:52pm On Sep 06, 2017
Ibukun003:
Was this successful?
And which bank please?
Yes sir.. FBN. Posted my ordeals here , if you scan through earlier pages you get to see it.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 7:23am On Sep 07, 2017
Kevostica:
Gurus in the house i appreciate the good work u people are doing here. What is diff buying TB in primary and secondary mkt. which is good to go for?
In primary market you buy directly from CBN while in secondary market you buyer from those that bought before and want to sell. In banks like FBN you can roll over your investment if done in the primary market but that of secondary market will drop in you account immediately it matures...
I hope this helps.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Kevostica(m): 7:42am On Sep 07, 2017
freeman67:
In primary market you buy directly from CBN while in secondary market you buyer from those that bought before and want to sell. In banks like FBN you can roll over your investment if done in the primary market but that of secondary market will drop in you account immediately it matures...
I hope this helps.
Thank you for this explanation. primary and secondary market do they attract the same rate of return?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by question(m): 7:52am On Sep 07, 2017
walexlo78:
Hello GT customers, please don't panic about your investment not showing on your internet banking platform, it's the least of things that should worry you. It's a system glitch and you will wàke up one day to see it again. Am sure you would have received an electronic debit àlert and possibly investment statement. One thing you should ensure is to get your investment certificate always done on their letter head. I am a gtb customer for 13yrs and deal in TB with them since some years now so I have experienced several including this one.

However, I stopped dealing in TB with them because they started playing games. Example, in the last auction they offered 364days to investors at 18.1% as mentioned here while stanbic offered 18.28% thereabout. That's a big gap, it appears they are making some spread on investors fund because I do not see reason why they would bid this low at 18.1% when the last marginal rate from upper week's bid was about 18.5%.
Good to know that you escaped GTbank wayo. Though it wont harm their customers to that much, but they could be making 0.18% minimum for there entire tbills Secondary market base. Thats why they encourage Secondary market.
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