Mickael2:



Sunday Mba played that game as the AMF, he was Busq's business all game long and we both know he didn't move.

The way you said this is just pure primary school football where they play 4-2-4 formation and you tell your 4 to go and mark their 10. Here they have a 10 and an AMF, your 4 marks the Amf

TheGoodJoe:



Just glanced at the clip. From the start, Mikel took a shot inside the 18 yard Box and Pique was outside. The same person you are praising will diminish Mikel. Ha. Take ya time. Central Midfielder inside the 18 and dmf outside.

Mickael2:



Rakitic isn't even a dmf.

Oga, offsides are not counted as chances created, go and ask anybody

Mickael2:


I swear you aint making sense

Icon4s:


Firstly? How many times has Aina been invited that makes him a regular?

If you say everyone that has been invited in the course of this campaign must play remember also that Jamiu Alimi, Kingsley Madu, Rabiu Ali, Stephen Odey, Noah Bazee, Uche Agbo, Anthony Nwakaeme, Aaron Samuel, Emmanuel Daniel have all been invited at one time or the other.

So according to you they must all play.

More players will still be invited in the near or later future. They all must also play right?

Mickael2:


this is 2017, not 1998. Denmark did not disgrace us, they destroyed us. Disgracing isn't even about the scoreline, it's about being outplayed totally and outclassed, we have received that quite a number of times

Mickael2:


I swear you aint making sense

Mickael2:


I wonder how you talk sometimes. Oga, in that game Mikel played as the CMF not Amf, so Busq had no business with him. Currently Mikel plays as our Amf so Busq will have a serious business with him, does that make sense now? Which Mikel will skin Busquets? Something the best Amfs in the world couldn't do, ask Ozil

Mickael2:


I wonder how you talk sometimes. Oga, in that game Mikel played as the CMF not Amf, so Busq had no business with him. Currently Mikel plays as our Amf so Busq will have a serious business with him, does that make sense now? Which Mikel will skin Busquets? Something the best Amfs in the world couldn't do, ask Ozil

adegwurulez:

Whilst it is not wrong to clamour for new players, we should be very careful at this point.

This was how many people were clamouring for ike uche to go to the world Cup, calling keshi all sorts of names. Alas uche was called up and what did he add to the team? He was just strolling around.

Most recently oliseh was pressured into inviting lukman haruna. That one was so poor he couldn't even complete one half.

safarigirl:
Everybody must play. The only people that may be excused from that rule are goalies....but everyone else mist play.

And by rotation, surely you didn't think I meant a fresh starting XI?

I already stated earlier today that the team cannot afford too many new players and that we had 85% sorted.

Some regulars will play, but you must involve the bench. I already listed my team against Algeria and it was a blend of four regulars and seven benchers

Mickael2:


the match ended 4 goals to nothing and they had already qualified and were conserving energy

safarigirl:
where did I say everyone that has been invited will play?

I said, everyone that will be going to Russia and most of those players will not be in Russia if not all of them.

Aina will be a regular, that is a given and he will play.

I listed the guys most likely to be in Russia, and they have all played...even the likes of Ebuehi that did not make my list, he has played and he could be in Russia.

Like I said, most of the players have played and all will have played by then.

Icon4s:


You said EVERYBODY must play.

safarigirl:
we could have....but did we? No, should we cry over that? No.

You can strive for better, but when you keep crying over what was not to be, it's more of a distraction.

The starting XI will still be tweaked, after all, this starting XI could have done a double on Cameroon, but you and many others have admitted their failure to do so.....imagine if we had tweaked the team, maybe we would have done better, abi?After all Cameroon tweaked theirs and gave us a battle

Le the coach try others, maybe some are better than what we fielded against Cameroon.... Maybe, a couple of players from that team will be injured weeks to the world cup, what will then happen to the team you've been training all that time? Now, the coach will have to go back to those bench boys and find some way to help them gel into the team.

A good team does this thing called ROTATION. Rotation allows for every member of the team to be great when called upon. You see what Manu Garba's team achieved in U17? Such pristine cohesion even with the bench boys was achieved because of rotation, other top teams do it as well.Our team is so dependent on some key members that we crash if they are removed, look at us against France in 2014 when Onazi picked an injury....imagine we go to Russia and Ekong picks a knock, what will happen to our defense since other players just sat on the bench since? On the other hand, Success was injured in the U17, but Awoniyi filled in so brilliantly, there was no gap.

You cannot have a fixed starting XI lest you promote laziness with others, after all, why will I have to be great when the coach won't ever pick me anyways?

We should rotate that team, like I said, nobody should go to Russia without contributing to the team. You cannot chop bench and go to Russia off the back of others

You talk about striving for excellence, bit you are fine with a great first XI and a largely untested bench, how is that excellence?

Napoleon55:
u give a lot of false information just to win arguments,
Spain scored us 3 goals but u said 4,Messi has scord SE only one goal in an open play but u said 2

safarigirl:
you haven't been following the argument then.

The original post leading to that one said "You cannot chop bench and go to Russia".... There was no point repeating that part over and over. The 'everybody' in question is " everybody going to the World Cup"....not just every invitee

Joebie:
Oga, assuming u be small pikin, I for don pull your ear well well oh..

we've played several big teams in all our world cup appearances. Now let's talk facts. how many times were we trashed?

TheGoodJoe:


Just negodu. Ask Ozil. Why not ask Isco? What of Pastore?

TheGoodJoe:


Mikel will murder him. Mikel Vs Busquets is no match.

safarigirl:
this was the original post... The bolded is the point

Cc icon4s

Mickael2:



getting thrashed is far far different from getting totally outplayed. By the way in recent memory, our only meeting with Spain was a thorough thrashing, 3-0 not 4-0 though. And apart from Enyeama's heroics, we would have been Messi's most preferred team at the group stages. Which other top team have we faced in recent memory?

TheGoodJoe:


Who said Rakitic is a dmf? I am talking of marking to diminish the effect of a player. Also, we are talking of stopping Mikel from performing. That is why I keep preaching against people who just look at stats and argue than watching the game and judge.

If Mikel is in position to give killer through balls, it is dangerous. Statistics might not write he created a chance but anyone watching it knew that was a deadly one. With a well timed run, that could cause havoc.

Joebie:
Fine, it's not about the scoreline, but I think you are exaggerating especially when you use say "totally outclassed". I don't admire most of our recent (pre Rohr era) performances though.

Mickael2:



But wait, this guy was the DMF of the all conquering Barca and Spanish teams but somehow he will be skinned by a 30 year old Dmf turned amf who isn't among the top 10 Amfs in the world? Wow! Just wow, are you at home?

Mickael2:


I still think we had some very good performances before Rohr but I know we can't compete with the top teams yet. That has to be our vision 2022

Mickael2:



But wait, this guy was the DMF of the all conquering Barca and Spanish teams but somehow he will be skinned by a 30 year old Dmf turned amf who isn't among the top 10 Amfs in the world? Wow! Just wow, are you at home?