Mickael2:



you see, do you even watch this games?

Our 4-0 loss to Psg had nothing to do with Pastore schooling Busq, oga talk like someone who watches the front of his tv for once. Go, sitdown and watch that game, then come back and tell me Busq's actual position in that game.

How did Isco school Busquets and where?

TheGoodJoe:


In Spain and Barcelona, Busquets plays in teams that defends with collective efforts. Busquets is hardly in a position where he as to do a lot of defending alone. His style of play fits the system. He only plays and has played in a system where his team does most of the controlling. They are hardly underpressure for a long time.

Mikel is not a DMF turned attacking midfield. He is a creative genius put in an unfamiliar position. He made the most of the DMF role. So leave to defender. Put Busquets in a team that does not hold possession and let me see whether he smell top 20 World best defensive midfielders.

TheGoodJoe:


Who said your loss has anything to do with Busquets? I laugh in ching chong. Please Pastore played in one of the preseason games against Barcelona.

Busquets is a perfect fit for the Barcelona system. Outside that, he ain't all that one on one, he will get destroyed. Keep in mind, I am a big Busquets fan.

Icon4s:


I started the argument with you is it not?

So how will I not be following the argument?

You are only just trying to modify your statement.
You were obviously referring to the invitees.

Besides how do you know the 'everybody' going to the World Cup?

Mickael2:



do you actually know that under Tata Martino we were a counter-attacking team? But Busq was still the boss.

Do you know that in the match against Pep's Bayern, Barca conceded possession but still Busq was not penetrated?

Do you even listen to yourself? Don't you know that it's teams that control possession that are more liable to counter attacks thus making the work of the dmf very very vital and important.


Mikel is nowhere close to the top 20 amfs in Eastern Europe alone, but Busquets has been doing this against top teams, even Pirlo could not take the midfield from Spain with Busq there and Mikel is not Pirlo, not even close, somehow you think Mikel will skin Busq? This thing is really confusing, are you in a bar currently?

Out of hundred games Busquets played or will play, Barcelona/Spain will dominate 95% of the games. Under Tata Martino, Barcelona still dominated possession. If Barcelona is under pressure, a lot of the defending has to do with teamwork.

Mikel will skin Busquets wella.

Enjoy this nice skinning of your impenetrable Busquets.

Mickael2:



except if Pastore plays for Juventus, Manu or some chinese team I don't know the preseason you are talking about

Joebie:
I wasn't particularly impressed with the Keshi era either. And that's my own opinion.

Modified
When/If* we qualify, I see Rohr surpassing our past. And I don't care who we will be grouped with. Remember our best in the WC is the second round. Just keeping the target low, but trying to tell you all the same that the '94 SE had the best chance of going past the second round, compared to the the SE of 98, 02, 2010 and 2014. If we had kept faith with Troussier we would have achieved it in 98. IMO, the SE of 2002, 2010 and 2014 did not have that potential considering the depth of the starting line up and the bench.

Icon4s:


I am still telling you that not even all those sitting on the bench for these matches will get to play. I am sure you know the names of players that have sat on the bench for different games have varied. Some sat on the bench once and were never re-invited.

If you say Every player that makes it to Russia must be tested it is a different thing.

Mickael2:



i think the 2010 set had a shot, no thanks to Keita and his silly behaviour. The squad was great, Osaze was on the bench too, Obasi was brilliant and Keita wasn't a bad player. Kanu was on the bench too and the coach was great(he is quite better than Rohr for sure). It depends on the group we find ourselves and the adjacent group, meet any top team and we are not going to like it

Joebie:
hmm. you mean Lars Lagerback

Rohr so far is the most promising since Troussier. It's too early to talk about his complete team. In my estimation it's maybe 70% concluded.

Mickael2:



let me argue better things with you rather than wasting my time with someone who thinks doing a rainbow flick means controlling the midfield or skinning a dmf.


looking at the resume of the two coaches Lars lagerback is far superior, not to mention that in a short while he assembled a really really good team. tactically Lars is a lot better

Joebie:
Leave resume. Lagerback's SE performance was mediocre. What made the team good? How far did they go? By that standard, you should be speaking more highly of Bora.. lol

Mickael2:



we didn't go far because Aiyegbeni was paid to ruin our campaign, together with Kaita. we were comfortably going to dispatch of Greece until he messed up and we should have defeated south Korea if not for that other guy. personally the coach did his job and an outstanding one at that, look at what the Iceland team is doing now

mikron:
God punish those wey sey we no go qualify
come oct 6th zambia must fall in uyo,
no more calculator things

Joebie:
lol.. na that day u go play the match for spirit world abi.. i dey see you oh..

anyways, welcome to the thread!!

mostob:
WAFU Nations cup starts on saturday,Anybody interested?How far do you think Nigerian team can go?

Icon4s:


There are varying degrees of team rotation.
You cannot be presenting different starting 11 and expect to build a team

Yes we want the team to get better but a total rotation is a no-no.

The 1994 team had depth but we know the regular starters. Everyone even till date can list the starting 11 of that team.

Youth football is different from Senior football. So the reference to the Manu's U17 does not hold much water here. Football at the U17 level has to do more with the individual abilities of the players. Manu assembled a pool of players with great abilities that even when some players failed the MRI the others still performed. At this level individual abilities counts a lot.

You first need regulars before your team can achieve cohesion.
Cohesion matters a lot at senior level.

Yes we need the injection of fresh blood into the team but this must be a gradual process. It took Westerhoff 5 years to progress the team to what it was in 1994. We cannot become Spain, Germany, Brazil or France over night.

And let me correct one impression, everybody must not play.

safarigirl:
Everybody must play. The only people that may be excused from that rule are goalies....but everyone else mist play.

And by rotation, surely you didn't think I meant a fresh starting XI?

I already stated earlier today that the team cannot afford too many new players and that we had 85% sorted.

Some regulars will play, but you must involve the bench. I already listed my team against Algeria and it was a blend of four regulars and seven benchers

jotey:

abegi caf no get sense

we are talking about African representatives here with their football pedigree to represent Africa

look at group A and look at our group and tell if caf has sense

forget ranking here no matter how england and Italy are low in ranking uefa will never place England Italy and Germany in the same qualifying group

kennysville:



This is exactly what is killing DRC right now. a change @ will. Had we won the game at Cameroon, then you can start talking fringe players. As of the now, if there is gonna be a substitution and lets not forget that we can only substitute 3 players per game (since its not a friendly game), then we have to understand it is the coaches' prerogative as to who comes in. Which gives credence to my earlier point. Everyone cannot play.

kennysville:



My point exactly. Thank you. You said the stuffs I didnt have time to air

Joebie:
And I've been calling for Echiejile's competition long. But most of us maintained he is trusted and experienced -- agreed. But when better competition (teams) comes knocking we will have no choice but to fix what is actually broken.

safarigirl:
you people never follow comments on this thread. It is becoming glaring now.

Please, follow comments and understand the point, it is tiring for someone to be repeating themselves every time

I already listed a starting XI against Algeria...ALGERIA, not Zambia, and I made the list with the assumption that we must have qualified by then. Is that not our last game that even you mentioned? How will such a rotation dent our chances mbok?

Even Rohr said the fringe players would be used against Algeria, if we qualify after the Zambia game. So, this your comment about DRC is off point.

Please, you people should bother to follow arguments sometimes and understand points. Even the talk that I was talking yesterday night, you didn't read, else, we wouldn't be coming back to this this morning

Joebie:
lol.. na that day u go play the match for spirit world abi.. i dey see you oh..

anyways, welcome to the thread!!

TheGoodJoe:


But Busquets could not diminish Mikel, Abi? You were totally wrong there. You are making it look like Busquets is one defensive genius. Give Mikel Busquets, I can bet my three months salary. Mikel will skin him alive. That one is a sure Banker.

Is it not Busquets I have watched very well.

kennysville:


Sorry to say this, but I am not you people! I answer to my own posts. If i disagree with yours, i think i am still well within my rights as much as you are within yours. Lets not be so condescending. Thanks