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alBHAGDADI:
If by Easa you mean Jesus, then you have been deceived. Your own Easa fits the description of the Antichrist spoken of by the Bible. He is the one you are waiting for, not Yahshua/Jesus. Jesus is coming to destroy your Easa, that's why all the nations he will do battle against as recorded in the Bible are all Islamic Nations today.

You have believed in the wrong Jesus. You made yourself decieved cos you failed to study. How can Mohammad, a man born 700 years after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, whom the New Testament part of the Bible was 500 years older than, now be the one you all believe should be in the right position to tell you about Jesus? He never saw Jesus nor was even born into a Christian home but a pagan Arabian home. He had 11 wives, murdered many people and was sure it was a demon that ministered onto him until his wife who never saw the encounter told him it was Angel Gabriel.

Do you know what? The Bible which is 500 years older than him already spoke of his kind who will come and preach another Jesus, a false Jesus whom you call Easa. It is written that you will believe the lie. The Bible also says such a liar is cursed. Maybe that's why you endlessly pray for peace to be upon your Prophet.

1 Corinthians 11:4
For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.

Galatians 1:8

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse!

Stop wasting your time with a propagandist and 'paceful' religion.......moslems are naturally brainwashed, shikena

Anasko:
so you people are sons of God likewise Jesus as you said? then you and your own jesus are sons of God. so you people are also gods as u stated it in your answer.

Isaiah 9:6 King James Version
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace... Since you guys believe the old testament more than the new testament, and you claim to be well versed in the Bible, can you please explain the verse quoted above and tell me who fulfilled the above prophecy.

Khafirun (disbeliver) That's Wah You Are...

davillian:
1) 140:35 They [Kafirs] who dispute the signs [Koran verses] of Allah without authority having reached them are greatly hated by Allah and the believers [Muslims]. So Allah seals up every arrogant, disdainful heart.
h8.24 It is not permissible to give zakat[charity] to a Kafir, or to someone whom one is obliged to support such as a wife or family member.

Here are a few of the Koran references: A Kafir can be mocked–

83:34 On that day the faithful will mock the Kafirs, while they sit on bridal couches and watch them. Should not the Kafirs be paid back for what they did?

A Kafir can be beheaded—

47:4 When you encounter the Kafirs on the battlefield, cut off their heads until you have thoroughly defeated them and then take the prisoners and tie them up firmly.

A Kafir can be plotted against—

86:15 They plot and scheme against you [Mohammed], and I plot and scheme against them. Therefore, deal calmly with the Kafirs and leave them alone for a while.

A Kafir can be terrorized—

8:12 Then your Lord spoke to His angels and said, “I will be with you. Give strength to the believers. I will send terror into the Kafirs’ hearts, cut off their heads and even the tips of their fingers!”

A Muslim is not the friend of a Kafir—

3:28 Believers should not take Kafirs as friends in preference to other believers. Those who do this will have none of Allah’s protection and will only have themselves as guards. Allah warns you to fear Him for all will return to Him.

A Kafir is evil—

23:97 And say: Oh my Lord! I seek refuge with You from the suggestions of the evil ones [Kafirs]. And I seek refuge with you, my Lord, from their presence.

A Kafir is disgraced—

37:18 Tell them, “Yes! And you [Kafirs] will be disgraced.”

A Kafir is cursed—

33:60 They [Kafirs] will be cursed, and wherever they are found, they will be seized and murdered. It was Allah’s same practice with those who came before them, and you will find no change in Allah’s ways.

Islam is dualistic  and that is why the S/w followed the peaceful path. 

2)nothing will happen I've not seen or heard so quote me wrong with proofs 

3) you loose your head.  ‎

A Kafir can be plotted against—

Are you plotting against the Prophet? Is he Alive for you to do that? Even when the evil doers of the time did... He watched His prophet and guided him. What did Allah say to him? Therefore, deal calmly with the Kafirs and leave them alone for a while.

A Kafir can be terrorized—

It's crystal clear this narrates a battle.

abdulmalik3:
"You have believed in the wrong Jesus. You made yourself decieved cos you failed to study. How can Mohammad, a man born 700 years after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, whom the New Testament part of the Bible was 500 years older than, now be the one you all believe should be in the right position to tell you about Jesus? He never saw Jesus nor was even born into a Christian home but a pagan Arabian home. He had 11 wives, murdered many people and was sure it was a demon that ministered onto him until his wife who never saw the encounter told him it was Angel Gabriel.

Do you know what? The Bible which is 500 years older than him already spoke of his kind who will come and preach another Jesus, a false Jesus whom you call Easa. It is written that you will believe the lie. The Bible also says such a liar is cursed. Maybe that's why you endlessly pray for peace to be upon your Prophet. "
For God sake, where do you get New Testament,if you ain't deceiving yourself? was it written in the life of Jesus Christ?

That is the funny notion have observed, you conviniently believed the roman version of jesus and ignore the middle eastern version, all what other prophets who live more than 500 years before jesus and after should be completely forgotten about, all laws given to the isrealite should be forgotten because Romans murdered jesus on the cross, and your sins as been forgotten and the laws doesnt count. Christians should endervour to download the turahk of jews and read of all true account of all prophets.

They will still deny it. Al taquiya, the greatest manipulative tool of all blood thirsty Muslims. Haha.

davillian:
1) 140:35 They [Kafirs] who dispute the signs [Koran verses] of Allah without authority having reached them are greatly hated by Allah and the believers [Muslims]. So Allah seals up every arrogant, disdainful heart.
h8.24 It is not permissible to give zakat[charity] to a Kafir, or to someone whom one is obliged to support such as a wife or family member.

Here are a few of the Koran references: A Kafir can be mocked–

83:34 On that day the faithful will mock the Kafirs, while they sit on bridal couches and watch them. Should not the Kafirs be paid back for what they did?

A Kafir can be beheaded—

47:4 When you encounter the Kafirs on the battlefield, cut off their heads until you have thoroughly defeated them and then take the prisoners and tie them up firmly.

A Kafir can be plotted against—

86:15 They plot and scheme against you [Mohammed], and I plot and scheme against them. Therefore, deal calmly with the Kafirs and leave them alone for a while.

A Kafir can be terrorized—

8:12 Then your Lord spoke to His angels and said, “I will be with you. Give strength to the believers. I will send terror into the Kafirs’ hearts, cut off their heads and even the tips of their fingers!”

A Muslim is not the friend of a Kafir—

3:28 Believers should not take Kafirs as friends in preference to other believers. Those who do this will have none of Allah’s protection and will only have themselves as guards. Allah warns you to fear Him for all will return to Him.

A Kafir is evil—

23:97 And say: Oh my Lord! I seek refuge with You from the suggestions of the evil ones [Kafirs]. And I seek refuge with you, my Lord, from their presence.

A Kafir is disgraced—

37:18 Tell them, “Yes! And you [Kafirs] will be disgraced.”

A Kafir is cursed—

33:60 They [Kafirs] will be cursed, and wherever they are found, they will be seized and murdered. It was Allah’s same practice with those who came before them, and you will find no change in Allah’s ways.

Islam is dualistic  and that is why the S/w followed the peaceful path. 

2)nothing will happen I've not seen or heard so quote me wrong with proofs 

3) you loose your head.  ‎

A Muslim is not the friend of a Kafir—
From all of your comments, do you think you'll make a great friend?
Verily for the disbelievers are filled with deceits

A Kafir is evil—
23:97... Ask any one with the knowledge of Arabic what Shayaatin are... it's the plural form of shaitan. You can visit the Arabic text yourself and determine if it's Shayaatin that's there. Beautiful it is you gave it a new meaning; the evil ones (kafir). The meaning of Shayaatin is crystal clear.
The closest translation should be... And say, "My Lord, I seek refuge in You from the incitements of the devils,

Do you think you should just base your judgement on what people tell you or inform you. Search and check all of these stuffs before you believe them.

Horladimeyjey:
A Kafir can be plotted against—

Are you plotting against the Prophet? Is he Alive for you to do that? Even when the evil doers of the time did... He watched His prophet and guided him. What did Allah say to him? Therefore, deal calmly with the Kafirs and leave them alone for a while.


A Kafir can be terrorized—

It's crystal clear this narrates a battle.

Deal with them calmly for a while? Simply means tolerate them for a while and when u get tired deal with them.
You can boko haran and Isis that.

Begino1:
They will still deny it. Al taquiya, the greatest manipulative tool of all blood thirsty Muslims. Haha.

Do you have evidence for this statistics apart from hearsay. Kindly provide one.

davillian:
Deal with them calmly for a while? Simply means tolerate them for a while and when u get tired deal with them.
You can boko haran and Isis that.

You provided an evidence for something you are narrating for another. I should provide an evidence against ISIS and Boko Haram from the Qur'an but I think it's your point to prove the Qur'an instructed them.

Back to the people scheming against the Prophet, Allah asked him to be calm. He further asked him to migrate and when they still followed him. He gave permission to fight them at battle.

Horladimeyjey:
A Muslim is not the friend of a Kafir—
From all of your comments, do you think you'll make a great friend?
Verily for the disbelievers are filled with deceits

A Kafir is evil—
23:97... Ask any one with the knowledge of Arabic what Shayaatin are... it's the plural form of shaitan. You can visit the Arabic text yourself and determine if it's Shayaatin that's there. Beautiful it is you gave it a new meaning; the evil ones (kafir). The meaning of Shayaatin is crystal clear.
The closest translation should be... And say, "My Lord, I seek refuge in You from the incitements of the devils,

Do you think you should just base your judgement on what people tell you or inform you. Search and check all of these stuffs before you believe them.

The word “non-Muslim” is used in the translation of Sharia law, but the actual Arabic word used is “Kafir”. But the word Kafir means far more than non-Muslim. The original meaning of the word was “concealer”, one who conceals the truth of Islam.

The Koran says that the Kafir may be deceived, plotted against, hated, enslaved, mocked, tortured and worse. The word is usually translated as “unbeliever” but this translation is wrong. The word “unbeliever” is logically and emotionally neutral, whereas, Kafir is the most abusive, prejudiced and hateful word in any language.

There are many religious names for Kafirs: polytheists, idolaters, People of the Book (Christians and Jews), Buddhists, atheists, agnostics, and pagans. Kafir covers them all, because no matter what the religious name is, they can all be treated the same. What Mohammed said and did to polytheists can be done to any other category of Kafir.

Nikbaebrown:
Point Of Correction. Muslims Are Nt Polytheists. We Dnt Worship Messiahs, Prophets, Pastors,holyspirit Or Any Equivalent Son Of God. We Worship The Maker Of The Heaven And Earth Allah.

Lols calm down.

I'm muslim.

Was directing my comments at modern christianity.

Jonathan:
Ignorance of dumbness in the blood

You need some medication

Nope.

I need some healing from one of your conmen pastors.

They've more super powers than The Avengers.

greatjoey:
You are getting it all wrong. Yahshua does not mean Joshua. It means, Yesu in Arabic.

You're the wrong one here, fella.

Yeshua in Hebrew is joshua in English.

Joshua son of Mary.

Damn.

Horladimeyjey:
Do you have evidence for this statistics apart from hearsay. Kindly provide one.

mr evidence, just study all the Islamic terror organizations who follow the Koran for example, boko haram, al qaeda, taliban and isis. You will get your evidence. But I know your type, you will either deny it or ask for more evidence.

davillian:
1) 140:35 They [Kafirs] who dispute the signs [Koran verses] of Allah without authority having reached them are greatly hated by Allah and the believers [Muslims]. So Allah seals up every arrogant, disdainful heart.
h8.24 It is not permissible to give zakat[charity] to a Kafir, or to someone whom one is obliged to support such as a wife or family member.

Here are a few of the Koran references: A Kafir can be mocked–

83:34 On that day the faithful will mock the Kafirs, while they sit on bridal couches and watch them. Should not the Kafirs be paid back for what they did?

A Kafir can be beheaded—

47:4 When you encounter the Kafirs on the battlefield, cut off their heads until you have thoroughly defeated them and then take the prisoners and tie them up firmly.

A Kafir can be plotted against—

86:15 They plot and scheme against you [Mohammed], and I plot and scheme against them. Therefore, deal calmly with the Kafirs and leave them alone for a while.

A Kafir can be terrorized—

8:12 Then your Lord spoke to His angels and said, “I will be with you. Give strength to the believers. I will send terror into the Kafirs’ hearts, cut off their heads and even the tips of their fingers!”

A Muslim is not the friend of a Kafir—

3:28 Believers should not take Kafirs as friends in preference to other believers. Those who do this will have none of Allah’s protection and will only have themselves as guards. Allah warns you to fear Him for all will return to Him.

A Kafir is evil—

23:97 And say: Oh my Lord! I seek refuge with You from the suggestions of the evil ones [Kafirs]. And I seek refuge with you, my Lord, from their presence.

A Kafir is disgraced—

37:18 Tell them, “Yes! And you [Kafirs] will be disgraced.”

A Kafir is cursed—

33:60 They [Kafirs] will be cursed, and wherever they are found, they will be seized and murdered. It was Allah’s same practice with those who came before them, and you will find no change in Allah’s ways.

Islam is dualistic  and that is why the S/w followed the peaceful path. 

2)nothing will happen I've not seen or heard so quote me wrong with proofs 

3) you loose your head.  ‎

A Kafir is disgraced—
37:18 Tell them, “Yes! And you [Kafirs] will be disgraced.”

Very funny... Did you bother reading the whole chapter?

It talks about happenings of the Day of judgement.

So yes, people going to hell will be disgraced. I am sure they will feel embarrassed too.

Horladimeyjey:
You provided an evidence for something you are narrating for another. I should provide an evidence against ISIS and Boko Haram from the Qur'an but I think it's your point to prove the Qur'an instructed them.

Back to the people scheming against the Prophet, Allah asked him to be calm. He further asked him to migrate and when they still followed him. He gave permission to fight them at battle.

If you provide an evidence against BH and Isis. I will provide evidence that they are acting according to the books also.
Now what this means is that Islam is dualistic it preaches peace and war @same time

Horladimeyjey:
A Kafir is disgraced—
37:18 Tell them, “Yes! And you [Kafirs] will be disgraced.”

Very funny... Did you bother reading the whole chapter?

It talks about happenings of the Day of judgement.

So yes, people going to hell will be disgraced. I am sure they will feel embarrassed too.

Leave them the reason they want to make jannah is for eternal life and eternal sexual pleasure with virgins and eternal erection.

QueryUnical:
Yeshua(i.e Joshua) is hebrew while Jesus is Greek.They mean the same thing. Its like naming ur child .Blessing(English), Ibukun(Yoruba)

Jesus is the latinized iesous. Iesous is the real greek version, not jesus.

Iesous is phonetically similar to issa, or Isa.

So by your analogy calling him Isa or Issa, as muslims do, is the same thing as calling him jesus, yeshua, joshua and whatever else his name was.

davillian:
The word “non-Muslim” is used in the translation of Sharia law, but the actual Arabic word used is “Kafir”. But the word Kafir means far more than non-Muslim. The original meaning of the word was “concealer”, one who conceals the truth of Islam.

The Koran says that the Kafir may be deceived, plotted against, hated, enslaved, mocked, tortured and worse. The word is usually translated as “unbeliever” but this translation is wrong. The word “unbeliever” is logically and emotionally neutral, whereas, Kafir is the most abusive, prejudiced and hateful word in any language.

There are many religious names for Kafirs: polytheists, idolaters, People of the Book (Christians and Jews), Buddhists, atheists, agnostics, and pagans. Kafir covers them all, because no matter what the religious name is, they can all be treated the same. What Mohammed said and did to polytheists can be done to any other category of Kafir.

Ask anyone who. is none Muslim and understands Arabic for the meaning of Kafir.

By the way where did you get your definition?

seniorkachion:
Yeshua is Jesus in Greek.

Nope.

The Grecian version is Iesous.

Jesus is the romanticized version of the greek form.

Begino1:
mr evidence, just study all the Islamic terror organizations who follow the Koran for example, boko haram, al qaeda, taliban and isis. You will get your evidence. But I know your type, you will either deny it or ask for more evidence.

You mean the part the media tells you right?

Even the same media tells us the political side.

BTW, have you bothered checking the verses of the Qur'an people cite as evidence?

oluvick:
The Greek word "Ιησούς" is what we have as Jesus. The one you have up there is Hebrew.

See this:

The proper name Jesus /ˈdʒiːzəs/ used in the English language originates from the Latin form of the Greek name Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous), a rendition of the Hebrew Yeshua (ישוע), also having the variants Joshua or Jeshua. In a religious context the name refers to Jesus, the central figure of Christianity.

thank you.

There's no J in greek.

So his name in greek was iesous.

Which is similar to Isa.

If we all agree iesous, yeshua, yehoshua, joshua, and jesus are all the same name, why then is the arabic version Isa disagreeable?

alBHAGDADI:
If by Easa you mean Jesus, then you have been deceived. Your own Easa fits the description of the Antichrist spoken of by the Bible. He is the one you are waiting for, not Yahshua/Jesus. Jesus is coming to destroy your Easa, that's why all the nations he will do battle against as recorded in the Bible are all Islamic Nations today.

You have believed in the wrong Jesus. You made yourself decieved cos you failed to study. How can Mohammad, a man born 700 years after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, whom the New Testament part of the Bible was 500 years older than, now be the one you all believe should be in the right position to tell you about Jesus? He never saw Jesus nor was even born into a Christian home but a pagan Arabian home. He had 11 wives, murdered many people and was sure it was a demon that ministered onto him until his wife who never saw the encounter told him it was Angel Gabriel.

Do you know what? The Bible which is 500 years older than him already spoke of his kind who will come and preach another Jesus, a false Jesus whom you call Easa. It is written that you will believe the lie. The Bible also says such a liar is cursed. Maybe that's why you endlessly pray for peace to be upon your Prophet.

1 Corinthians 11:4
For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.

Galatians 1:8

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse!

why will the so called Antichrist visits America,Rome, Nigeria,and other corrupt Nations when they have all sold their souls to the devil Antichrist will have to visit the Islamic states because they have given their souls to the Almighty Allah

Begino1:
They will still deny it. Al taquiya, the greatest manipulative tool of all blood thirsty Muslims. Haha.

Hmmm! Blood thirsty Muslims indeed. When Christians were galloping on horse backs sacking villages, killing women & children calling them witches all in the name of crusade, u didn't see anything wrong with that. U will erase part of religion that inconvenience u, & hold on tight to parts that suite your narrative. Hypocrisy of the highest order

Horladimeyjey:
You provided an evidence for something you are narrating for another. I should provide an evidence against ISIS and Boko Haram from the Qur'an but I think it's your point to prove the Qur'an instructed them.

Back to the people scheming against the Prophet, Allah asked him to be calm. He further asked him to migrate and when they still followed him. He gave permission to fight them at battle.

If you follow the teaching of prophet Mohammad (PBUH)
Then I'm not expecting you to deal or love a kaffir

Liebermantic:
Jesus is English equivalent of Yeshua..



Eesa is an Antichrist..

Mohammad was a rapist, paedophile and warmonger.


Jesus is the son of the Living God - Jehovah/Yahweh

I really don't wanna worship a "living" god who has a "son".

Those are mortal attributes.

Your god sounds suspiciously like a man.

No wonder he needed to rest on the 7th day.

I'd rather worship an eternal, omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent God, Allah.

Now, how about you go somewhere quiet and have sexual relations with your left hand?

Might release some of the pressure in your nuts making you talk crazy.

Horladimeyjey:
Ask anyone who. is none Muslim and understands Arabic for the meaning of Kafir.

By the way where did you get your definition?

Kafir (Arabic: كافر‎‎ kāfir; plural كفّار kuffār; feminine كافرة kāfirah) is an Arabic term (from the root K-F-R "to cover" meaning "unbeliever", or "disbeliever". The term[1] alludes to a person who rejects or disbelieves in God and the teachings of the Islamic prophet Muhammad(PBUH)[2] and denies the dominion and authority of God;[3] or otherwise does not heed the beliefs and prescriptions held by the religion of Islam. It is used as a derogatory term.[4][1][5] Unbelief is called kufr. Kafir is sometimes used interchangeably with mushrik (مشرك, those who commit polytheism), another type of religious wrongdoer mentioned frequently in the Quran and Islamic works.[6] The practice of declaring another self-professed Muslim a kafir is known as takfir.[7] The person who denies the existence of a creator is called Dahriya.[8]

OlufemiAbbey:
Yeshua is a Hebrew name. It has the same meaning as to the English rendition of Joshua, which means a saviour.

Jesus is the Greek equivalent of Joshua, which has same connotative meaning. The Old Testament was written in Hebrew while the New Testament was written in Greek.

So if he has a grecian name and an english name and a hebrew name even though he was aramaic, what's wrong with him having an arabic name?

Arabs and jews have more in common genetically, regionally, theologically, and culturally than romans and greeks do with Hebrews.

davillian:
1) 140:35 They [Kafirs] who dispute the signs [Koran verses] of Allah without authority having reached them are greatly hated by Allah and the believers [Muslims]. So Allah seals up every arrogant, disdainful heart.
h8.24 It is not permissible to give zakat[charity] to a Kafir, or to someone whom one is obliged to support such as a wife or family member.

Here are a few of the Koran references: A Kafir can be mocked–

83:34 On that day the faithful will mock the Kafirs, while they sit on bridal couches and watch them. Should not the Kafirs be paid back for what they did?

A Kafir can be beheaded—

47:4 When you encounter the Kafirs on the battlefield, cut off their heads until you have thoroughly defeated them and then take the prisoners and tie them up firmly.

A Kafir can be plotted against—

86:15 They plot and scheme against you [Mohammed], and I plot and scheme against them. Therefore, deal calmly with the Kafirs and leave them alone for a while.

A Kafir can be terrorized—

8:12 Then your Lord spoke to His angels and said, “I will be with you. Give strength to the believers. I will send terror into the Kafirs’ hearts, cut off their heads and even the tips of their fingers!”

A Muslim is not the friend of a Kafir—

3:28 Believers should not take Kafirs as friends in preference to other believers. Those who do this will have none of Allah’s protection and will only have themselves as guards. Allah warns you to fear Him for all will return to Him.

A Kafir is evil—

23:97 And say: Oh my Lord! I seek refuge with You from the suggestions of the evil ones [Kafirs]. And I seek refuge with you, my Lord, from their presence.

A Kafir is disgraced—

37:18 Tell them, “Yes! And you [Kafirs] will be disgraced.”

A Kafir is cursed—

33:60 They [Kafirs] will be cursed, and wherever they are found, they will be seized and murdered. It was Allah’s same practice with those who came before them, and you will find no change in Allah’s ways.

Islam is dualistic  and that is why the S/w followed the peaceful path. 

2)nothing will happen I've not seen or heard so quote me wrong with proofs 

3) you loose your head.  ‎

A Kafir is cursed—

How come this is not in quote?

(33:60) "If the hypocrites and those in whose hearts there is a sickness, and the scandal mongers in Madinah do not desist from their vile acts, We shall urge you to take action against them, and then they will hardly be able to stay in the city with you."

Kafir? Cursed? I am sure you meant to quote another verse.


Bottom line is you don't have to believe in a religion. But before you are filled with so much hate, verify what you are told.

tobsidan:
You talk based on similarities in the names and pronounciation you are funny menn...

Nope.

Look it up, dumbass.

Yeshua is joshua.

Jeez you don't even know who the fukk you're praying to.

Talk about lost sheep.

davillian:
If you follow the teaching of prophet Mohammad (PBUH) Then I'm not expecting you to deal or love a kaffir

Are we still talking about the same thing?