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safarigirl:
Oh? They both raised the dead abi? Who are these dead persons they raised or is it just word of mouth we are to accept?

adepeter2027:
How many times have we read comments from your pals threatening us with TRADITIONAL GOD.

BTW, you say ya God is powerful? Àbeg, why is he yet kill Satan?

BluntBoy:
Idahosa was a con man. Oyedepo is a con man.

The Bible warned us about these vipers who would chase after money. They are the prosperity preachers. It is said that even the elect would be deceived by them. Christians, watch and pray! Prosperity theology is unbiblical.

GodsMopol:
Your question should be. Do I know God, moreover God delights in the prosperity of His servants. If some preach prosperity in their message, if you are not interested in the topic, very simple, change to deeper life or redeem.

You need to understand the church is like a long chain, every church is a piece of that long chain.

1 Corinthians 12:12-15 says things about every church being a part, the fact a church does not lay emphasis on rapture or holiness in every sermon does not mean they are not preaching it.

Moreso, there is a church for every life problem, that's why some don't understand, always claiming their church is the best, when their church is a piece of the entire body(puzzle)

GodsMopol:
If prosperity was bad, then Abraham will go to hell and not only that the parable of the prodigal son might not really be a parable of a rich man, but a poor man.

Psalms 35:27 Let them shout for joy, and be glad, that favour my righteous cause: yea, let them say continually, Let the Lord be magnified, which hath pleasure in the prosperity of his servant.

one question pls, is it Gods will/ does God want us to be poor?

TheVictorious:
I KNEW VERY MUCH ABOUT THAT. Even up till now, papa still renders financial, moral and spiritual support to BIU.

BluntBoy:
No one said wealth is a bad thing. But chasing after it is a bad thing.

Paul told Timothy 1 Timothy 6:10-12:

For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness. Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses.

GodsMopol:
Your question should be. Do I know God, moreover God delights in the prosperity of His servants. If some preach prosperity in their message, if you are not interested in the topic, very simple, change to deeper life or redeem.

You need to understand the church is like a long chain, every church is a piece of that long chain.

1 Corinthians 12:12-15 says things about every church being a part, the fact a church does not lay emphasis on rapture or holiness in every sermon does not mean they are not preaching it.

Moreso, there is a church for every life problem, that's why some don't understand, always claiming their church is the best, when their church is a piece of the entire body(puzzle)

Statsocial:
Maybe its not demons afterall. You are just one ridiculous individual. But really don't curse out ppl u don't know before.
There is nothing revolutionary about being insultive or cursing pastors out. If you are a Christian stop it! Foolish people have been doing this from time immemorial from the biblical days of Moses down till this moment. They didn't let the man have rest, they murmur, gossiped and nearly overthrew him for marrying an Outsider who God said no one should. Even Jesus won't tell you that all his apostles are perfect. So take a chill pill because nobody go answer him papa name on judgement day-Whether na Pope Francis, or Queen Elizabeth or Oyedepo you will all answer your name. What you feel about those pastors is irrelevant to God himself and God won't change his mind about them because you said so. Face your own life.

GodsMopol:
Loooooool, seems you have converted, when did you start quoting Paul as against your demonic thread

www.nairaland.com/3940493/why-many-christians-may-burn

n about Mhizzaj, what do you know about her, oooooh, she's not following you I guess, and you are not following her. okay

BluntBoy:
No one said wealth is a bad thing. But chasing after it is a bad thing.

Paul told Timothy 1 Timothy 6:10-12:

For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness. Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses.

GodsMopol:
How sure are you they are superstition and fables

Your assumption of it being superstitious and fablic are as a result of some articles you read, I have experienced the power and many things with God, so you will try till eternity to convince me about the unreal.

GodsMopol:
I just did a penguins laughter on this one. You mean the same Christianity that wiped out ogun, sango, and orunmila including amadioha worshippers to the bearest minimal in Nigeria, is the same powerless Christians. Try harder

BluntBoy:
I am not totally against Paul. Where it seems he collides with the teachings of Jesus, I always choose Jesus.

GodsMopol:
From the bolded, provided you agree with the teaching of Paul, says, many covet after it, they will rather prefer to hustle or get money than do what God has commanded.

Job could have cursed God because he lost his wealth. But his heart was with God. The rich man which Jesus told to sell all he has and give to the poor was too attached to his money. see money is an idol when we chases it and that's why God will tell Abraham to give his only son, to see if we have held something's as idol.

That's what Paul is trying to say. Always learn to strike a balance amidst many verses before coming out to spill anything.

Statsocial:

SamgoldBaba:
Am new on NAIRALAND show me some love plzzzzzzzzzz

Statsocial:
Lol as in ehn. Me that I know what my eyes have seen and how God as delivered me cannot follow these funny Atheist. I just see everything they say as comedy. Well unfortunately it won't be funny if they die atheist.

BluntBoy:
You quoted that post twice and still failed to see where I wrote that "wealth is not a bad thing." but chasing after it" which is the essense of the fraudulent prosperity gospel. God never left a formula to use for blessing you. These prosperity preachers claim to have formulas that has worked for them. Apparently, a pastor only sees "success or God's blessings" only as material possessions. They develop a model and sell it to the Christians who will drop their last cards to get riches from God.

Statsocial:
The only similarity they would never share is longetivity in Jesus Name. Lord Jesus let Adeboye and Oyedepo remain with us for a very long time.

When I study Oyedepo's life I begin to understand his audacity and radicalism. Much of his life he associated with radicals of the Christian faith from Hagin, T.L Osborne, Idahosa, Adeboye and Copeland. You can't move with such individuals and not become a radical yourself.

No 16 is hilarious for me o. Same person went after father and son. I have never heard of the bolded story before. Anyway that is how it should be. Give and shut up about it-that is the Christian way.

Adaumunocha:
Prosperity gospel? No wonder he's wealthy. Unlike some churches that keep preaching about hell and end of time every Sunday... E.g D.L

adepeter2027:
There is only one similarity between them - 419

aigboeben:
Is D L a poor church? They only decided to make salvation their core message. What is the Great Commission all about (Matthew 28:18-20)?

Statsocial:
40 STRIKING AND INTERESTING SIMILARITIES BETWEEN:
ARCHBISHOP BENSON IDAHOSA AND BISHOP DAVID OYEDEPO
By Leke Beecroft

1. Benson Idahosa was born in September.
1. David Oyedepo was born in September.

2. Benson Idahosa was born to a non-christian father.
2. David Oyedepo was born to a non-christian father.

3.Benson Idahosa's mother was once driven out of her matrimonial home.
3. David Oyedepo's mother was once driven out of her matrimonial home.

4. Benson Idahosa's mother had children who died as babies.
4. David Oyedepo's mother had children who died as babies.

5. Benson Idahosa was sickly as a child.
5. David Oyedepo was sickly as a child.

6. Benson Idahosa's grandmother sent him to school.
6. David Oyedepo's grandmother sent him to school.

7. Benson Idahosa attended an Anglican primary school.
7. David Oyedepo attended an Anglican primary school.

8. Benson Idahosa got born again in the 1960s (1960)
8. David Oyedepo got born again in the 1960s (1969)

9. Benson Idahosa bought his first pair of shoes after working as a vendor and barrow boy as a teenager (18)
9. David Oyedepo bought his first pair of shoes after a hospital building construction digging job as a teenager (16)

10. Benson Idahosa recorded a miracle of raising the dead before going into ministry.
10. David Oyedepo recorded a miracle of raising the dead before going into ministry.

11. Benson Idahosa attended polytechnic (in UK by correspondence)
11. David Oyedepo attended polytechnic (Kwarapoly)

12. Benson Idahosa was inspired by his mentor T.L Osborn among others.
12. David Oyedepo was inspired by T.L Osborn and Benson Idahosa among others.

13. Benson Idahosa paid a visit to Pa Sydney Granville Elton at Ilesa after receiving a call into ministry.
13. David Oyedepo received a call into ministry at Ilesa after a visit to Pa Sydney Granville Elton.

14. Benson Idahosa received a call to preach prosperity and was the first and leading Nigerian preacher of the prosperity gospel in his time.
14. David Oyedepo received a call to preach prosperity and is the leading Nigerian preacher of the prosperity gospel in his time.

15. Benson Idahosa was the richest African pastor while he was alive.
15. David Oyedepo is currently the richest African pastor.

16. Benson Idahosa was severely criticized by Archbishop Okogie.
16. David Oyedepo was severely criticized by Archbishop Okogie

17. Benson Idahosa's first major church building built in his 30s was called FAITH MIRACLE CENTRE.
17. David Oyedepo's first major church building built in his 30s was called GARDEN OF FAITH.

18. Benson Idahosa's largest church building built in his 40s was called FAITH ARENA.
18. David Oyedepo's largest church building built in his 40s was called FAITH TABERNACLE.

19. Benson Idahosa was ordained Bishop in the 80s (1981)
19. David Oyedepo was ordained Bishop in the 80s (1988) by Archbishop Benson Idahosa.

20. Benson Idahosa has four children.
20. David Oyedepo has four children.

21. Benson Idahosa's first child is named BENSON
21. David Oyedepo's first child is named DAVID

22. Benson Idahosa's Faith Arena was Africa's largest church building in Africa at construction.
22. David Oyedepo's Faith Tabernacle was the world's largest church building at construction.

23. Benson Idahosa's ministry was the first in Africa to fly a jet.
23. David Oyedepo's ministry was the first in Africa to own a fleet of aircraft, aircraft hangar.and airstrip.

24. Benson Idahosa's ministry was the first pentecostal mission in Nigeria to run a university with Idahosa as Chancellor..
24. David Oyedepo's ministry was the first pentecostal mission in Nigeria to run two universities with Oyedepo as Chancellor..

25. Benson Idahosa's ministry owned 104 Word of Faith nursery and primary schools by his 59th birthday.
25. David Oyedepo's ministry owned 104 Kingdom Heritage Model Schools (Nursery and Primary) by his 59th birthday

26. Benson Idahosa's ministry owns a group of Word of Faith Secondary Schools.
26. David Oyedepo's ministry owns a group of Faith Academy (Secondary) Schools.

27. Benson Idahosa's ministry runs a group of hospitals called Faith Mediplex and built the first major facility in his hometown in Benin City.
27. David Oyedepo's ministry runs a group of hospitals called Gilead and built the first major facility in his hometown, Omu Aran.

28. At 58, Benson Idahosa's church released her constitution.
28. At 58, David Oyedepo's church released her constitution (The Mandate).

29. At 59, Benson Idahosa's church had 6,000 branches.
29. At 59, David Oyedepo's church had 6,000 branches.

30. Benson Idahosa once made news headlines while confronting a witch.
30. David Oyedepo once made news headlines while confronting a witch.

31. One of Benson Idahosa'a daughters is married to a senior pastor in the church Idahosa founded (Church of God Mission-Miracle center).
31. One of David Oyedepo's daughters is married to a senior pastor in the church Oyedepo founded (Winners ' Chapel, Ota).

32. Benson Idahosa was fondly called 'PAPA' by worshippers in the CGMI.
32. David Oyedepo is fondly called 'PAPA' by worshippers in Winners Chapel.

33. Benson Idahosa was attacked at home by armed robbers, he engaged them in a verbal duel and they fled.
33. David Oyedepo was attacked in a hotel by armed robbers, he engaged them in a verbal duel and they fled.

34. Benson Idahosa always slept an average of 4 hours daily.
34. David Oyedepo sleeps an average of 4 hours daily.

35. Benson Idahosa's wife, Margaret once passed on, and it took her husband and children's prayers to raise her up.
35. David Oyedepo's wife, Faith, once lost the use of her limbs and was later reported dead,it took the prayers of her husband, family and friends to get her back on her feet.

36. Benson Idahosa sponsored hundreds of children to school on scholarship.
37. David Oyedepo has sponsored over a thousand children to school on scholarship.

38. Benson Idahosa started to give a tithe of 90% of his monthly income in the 80s.
38. David Oyedepo stopped receiving a salary in 1988.

39. In the 90s, Benson Idahosa wrote one of his bestsellers "BENEFITS OF DEATH". He was "Coronated" shortly before his 60th birthday.
39. In the 90s, David Oyedepo wrote one of his bestsellers "LONG LIFE YOUR HERITAGE". He clocked 60 in 2014.

40. In 1986, Benson Idahosa announced at a crusade that his son, David Oyedepo would do greater works than him.
40. On the departure of Benson Idahosa in 1998, funds were needed to keep paying the Christian Faith University (later Benson Idahosa University) staff salary, David Oyedepo came to the rescue and paid the salaries till the university stabilised,in that period, he received inspiration to start Covenant University which is now one of the most prominent universities in Nigeria.

https://m.facebook.com/Churchgist.org/photos/a.445141538963056.1073741828.444807728996437/1107807982696405/?type=3

GodsMopol:
Loooooool, no body is developing a model. The Bible said, the time cometh and now is when the true worshippers shall worship God in spirit and in truth. If their members are spiritually sensitive to God, whatever they pastors brings that does not tally with God is revealed , so don't jump into conclusion
The widow with the widows mite was applauded for dropping her last card, the widow of Zarapheth dropped her last card to have many

AdeniyiA:
What many did not know is that prior to his death Idahosa embarked on an aggressive campaign/programme tagged "Joshua(TB Joshua) must die" campaign. The Joshua persecution and hatred was just too much...

But God knows best, he died instead

Adaumunocha:
Never said it is.