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Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by adjoviomole(m): 6:43pm On Oct 08, 2017
Gggg102:
read deuteronomy chapter 14 vs22-29 to find out
I have, what of malachi?
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by Student125(m): 6:43pm On Oct 08, 2017
adjoviomole:
Hello young man, I never said what the op did is bad. It is good to give to the poor. But when you start thinking that because you give to the poor you have paid your tithes then you are wrong.... I give to the poor too, in fact everytime I enter public transport, I pray for every aged ones in the bus, despite all this I have never for once said because I do this I don't need to pay my tithe. Tithe and helping the needy are both different things. If you refuse to pay your tithes the Bible calls such people as robbers who are robbing God.
And I am saying if you don't pay tithe, u owe no shit cuz it s never a prerequisite for anything other than hoping to get more blessings.
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by adjoviomole(m): 6:44pm On Oct 08, 2017
Student125:
And I am saying if you don't pay tithe, u owe no shit cuz it s never a prerequisite for anything other than hoping to get more blessings.
Malachi 3 :8 says you are a robber if you don't pay your tithe.
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by adjoviomole(m): 6:45pm On Oct 08, 2017
Nobodys:
peace dear.... Dont remember d last time i talked about the bible for this long..lol take care
What is your name.
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by Gggg102(m): 6:46pm On Oct 08, 2017
adjoviomole:
That's the direction you are driving at. Substitution the paying of tithe by giving it to the needy.
that's the point tithe is for alms
read deuteronomy chapter 14 vs 22-29
it shows tithe is for feeding those who have nothing
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by adjoviomole(m): 6:47pm On Oct 08, 2017
Gggg102:
that's the point tithe is for alms read deuteronomy chapter 14 vs 22-29 it shows tithe is for feeding those who have nothing
Why are you avoiding Malachi?
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by Gggg102(m): 6:50pm On Oct 08, 2017
adjoviomole:
Why are you avoiding Malachi?
I'm not avoiding Malachi but you can't read Malachi without knowing if deuteronomy because Malachi is talking about the tithe which was installed in deuteronomy

Malachi was talking about how the people had strayed from the law in deuteronomy
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by JMystique(m): 6:52pm On Oct 08, 2017
People against this tithe thing make it sound like the tithe is suddenly the only money they have to give. God said 10% of your increase is for HIM,but in our oversabi and in our bid not to obey simple instruction we chose to read bible upside down so we can justify our disobedience. There's an instruction to pay your tithes, and there's a blessing,there is an instruction to give to the poor,there's a blessing, there's an instruction to give to your parents, there's a blessing. Even Jesus once said, 'the poor you will always have with you' when people were murmuring about giving him stuff. So if it's not your tithe you wouldn't have given that beggar something? Analyse,modify and misquote the bible all you want, scripture cannot be broken.God said 10% of your increase to HIS house, if you like use it to feed the homeless and act like that's the only money you ever have to give. There's a blessing for tithe,which you already know about,which you've missed out on. Stop decieving urself,if you don't want to pay tithe don't pay,its not by force, stop looking for justifications for your obedience
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by Gggg102(m): 6:54pm On Oct 08, 2017
JMystique:
People against this tithe thing make it sound like the tithe is suddenly the only money they have to give. God said 10% of your increase is for HIM,but in our oversabi and in our bid not to obey simple instruction we chose to read bible upside down so we can justify our disobedience. There's an instruction to pay your tithes, and there's a blessing,there is an instruction to give to the poor,there's a blessing, there's an instruction to give to your parents, there's a blessing. Even Jesus once said, 'the poor you will always have with you' when people were murmuring about giving him stuff. So if it's not your tithe you wouldn't have given that beggar something? Analyse,modify and misquote the bible all you want, scripture cannot be broken.God said 10% of your increase to HIS house, if you like use it to feed the homeless and act like that's the only money you ever have to give. There's a blessing for tithe,which you already know about,which you've missed out on. Stop decieving urself,if you don't want to pay tithe don't pay,its not by force, stop looking for justifications for your obedience
pls read deuteronomy chapter 14 verses 22-29
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by Student125(m): 6:54pm On Oct 08, 2017
adjoviomole:
Malachi 3 :8 says you are a robber if you don't pay your tithe.
is that all
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by adjoviomole(m): 6:56pm On Oct 08, 2017
Gggg102:
I'm not avoiding Malachi but you can't read Malachi without knowing if deuteronomy because Malachi is talking about the tithe which was installed in deuteronomy

Malachi was talking about how the people had strayed from the law in deuteronomy
Malachi says bring everything to my storehouse, deuteronomy says to place the lord will choose to place his name there.
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by adjoviomole(m): 6:58pm On Oct 08, 2017
Student125:
is that all

Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by Gggg102(m): 7:00pm On Oct 08, 2017
@adjoviomole please tell me the reasons people pay tithe and the backing from the bible
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by adjoviomole(m): 7:03pm On Oct 08, 2017
Gggg102:
@adjoviomole please tell me the reasons people pay tithe and the backing from the bible
I don't understand your question. Clarify
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by Gggg102(m): 7:04pm On Oct 08, 2017
why do people pay tithe
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by adjoviomole(m): 7:05pm On Oct 08, 2017
Gggg102:
why do people pay tithe
To maintain the house of God, to support the church and it's ministry
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by orjikuramo(m): 7:11pm On Oct 08, 2017
i sincerely respect the way u made your point but have you ever asked yourself, if truly tithing is as important as most men of gawd make it seem, how come our Lord Jesus and His immediate disciples (Paul included) never mentioned it at all but they definitely did mention giving to the poor, most m-o-g are always quick to quote Malachi which was written when we were under the law not under Grace.
bedspread:
It's Wonderful to give to the poor... INFACT the Bible specifically talks about dt.

But Your Tithe is not a gift. Neither is it your money. Your Tithe is GOD's SHARE of your Money. And He Directs where it should be taken to. See Malachi 3:10
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by sirfee(m): 7:13pm On Oct 08, 2017
pocohantas:
I missed this. Have I ever been their member? I have no strength for all these hypocritical christians that full everywhere.
I don't need religion to tell me right or wrong.
My bad,your school of thought is the best.
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by JMystique(m): 7:19pm On Oct 08, 2017
Gggg102:
pls read deuteronomy chapter 14 verses 22-29
This is seems to be the only scripture the people who don't want to pay tithe can find amongst the numerous scriptures on tithing. What about numbers 18:26,Proverbs 3:9-10,2 Chron 31:4-5,Gen 14:19-20,Gen 28:20-22,Neh 10:35-37, Malachi 3...and numerous more. That's where God talk about tithes being for his storehouse, and his priests and the blessings it comes with. Look,if you don't want to pay tithe to God's house don't pay,its not by force,it carries it's own special blessing,it's your money, do what you want with it. Just don't keep looking for how to justify it with how you used it to feed the homeless or raise the dead, you have 90% of your increase to use for that, but for some reason it's that small 10% you have to use for that one. Na wa, is anybody pointing gun at you people's head to pay tithes that it bothers you people so much? If you don't want to pay leave it,end of. It's almost like if you pay your tithes you can't give to the poor again,haba
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by adjoviomole(m): 7:19pm On Oct 08, 2017
orjikuramo:
i sincerely respect the way u made your point but have you ever asked yourself, if truly tithing is as important as most men of gawd make it seem, how come our Lord Jesus and His immediate disciples (Paul included) never mentioned it at all but they definitely did mention giving to the poor, most m-o-g are always quick to quote Malachi which was written when we were under the law not under Grace.
Jesus condemned the pharisee on the issue of tithe and employed us to continue paying our tithes. Luke 18:12
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by bedspread: 7:20pm On Oct 08, 2017
orjikuramo:
i sincerely respect the way u made your point but have you ever asked yourself, if truly tithing is as important as most men of gawd make it seem, how come our Lord Jesus and His immediate disciples (Paul included) never mentioned it at all but they definitely did mention giving to the poor, most m-o-g are always quick to quote Malachi which was written when we were under the law not under Grace.
MY BROTHER, ITS IMPORTANT..
LETS SEE IT THIS WAY, WE ALL CLAIM FATHER ABRAHAM IS OUR FATHER AND WE ARE UNDER GOD'S COVENANT WITH ABRAHAM... ABRAHAM GAVE ONE TENTH OF HIS WEALTH TO MECHIZEDEK AS TITHE....

The SAME BIBLE SAYS "BRING YE ALL THE TITHE"
FORMULA GIVEN
TITHE SPECIFICALLY COMMANDED...

Watelse do we need.....
GIVING ALMS, HELPING PEOPLE IS WONDERFUL..... BUT DO MIX UR TITHE WITH THAT..
Your TITHE IS A SPECIAL PACKAGE .....NOT LESS THAN 10%.
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by Gggg102(m): 7:32pm On Oct 08, 2017
adjoviomole:
To maintain the house of God, to support the church and it's ministry
and its ministry...
if that ministry is not to live under the example that Jesus gave us then I don't know what it is
if that ministry is not to show LOVE to our neighbours and to help the underprivileged then I don't know what it is
the only argument that I have been defending so far is that the purpose of tithe is to help those who are not as privileged as we are
I am not saying it is bad to give tithes to the church
you are advised to give it to the church because some of this "beggars" are dupists
the church is there to separate the wheat from the shaft
but if you can give directly to the people the church should give it to at the end, is it a bad idea to skip the chain?
my other main issue is with those that say "it is not your business what the pastor uses your tithe to do" you gave the tithe to help the poor and spread the gospel then why won't you be concerned if it was not used accordingly.
what is the point of paying school fees if they won't teach your child
it is just like saying it is not your business what the government uses your tax to do as long as you pay it


sorry for the long post if you don't agree with anything I have said please point it out
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by greatjoey: 7:35pm On Oct 08, 2017
adjoviomole:
The widow that gave her all while Jesus was in the temple, she brought is to the ban abi store house too abi?
What the widow gave was not a tithe. It was more or less an offering.
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by Rexleo(m): 7:37pm On Oct 08, 2017
Honour2:
God bless you sir. God demands obedience ,not choosing which of his word to obey but to obey in everything and trust that he will do his part as we do our part.That is when our obedience is complete and his blessing upon our lives sure.
this your assertion in itself is why we have all manner of criminal elements parading as pastor and prophet, if people begin to obey every thoughts whether good or criminal and ascribe it to the voice of God,then what we will have will not be far from pogrom.every man of God that can wake the dead and cannot walk on water is a fraud.it so easy to wake the dead.next time when you hear that voice telling you to severe your penis pls comply.
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by ylaa(f): 7:37pm On Oct 08, 2017
Ask me again! Are you sure you are a Practising Christian? Did the Bible say we shud pay our tithes to beggars? Did Malachai 3:8 not said: Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD ...
Search your self if u actually give biambiallah your tithe.
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by adjoviomole(m): 7:37pm On Oct 08, 2017
greatjoey:
What the widow gave was not a tithe. It was more or less an offering.
It still does not change the fact that she brought it to the store house 'temple'
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by orjikuramo(m): 7:38pm On Oct 08, 2017
smiles....
in that quoted scripture, Jesus was giving a parable about a pharisee who was priding himself as one who does everything there is, so he is better than others and i read further down, he never employed us to continue paying our tithe......
thanks anyway for trying to put us through.
adjoviomole:
Jesus condemned the pharisee on the issue of tithe and employed us to continue paying our tithes. Luke 18:12
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by adjoviomole(m): 7:40pm On Oct 08, 2017
Gggg102:
and its ministry...
if that ministry is not to live under the example that Jesus gave us then I don't know what it is
if that ministry is not to show LOVE to our neighbours and to help the underprivileged then I don't know what it is
the only argument that I have been defending so far is that the purpose of tithe is to help those who are not as privileged as we are
I am not saying it is bad to give tithes to the church
you are advised to give it to the church because some of this "beggars" are dupists
the church is there to separate the wheat from the shaft
but if you can give directly to the people the church should give it to at the end, is it a bad idea to skip the chain?
my other main issue is with those that say "it is not your business what the pastor uses your tithe to do" you gave the tithe to help the poor and spread the gospel then why won't you be concerned if it was not used accordingly.
what is the point of paying school fees if they won't teach your child
it is just like saying it is not your business what the government uses your tax to do as long as you pay it


sorry for the long post if you don't agree with anything I have said please point it out
If the ministry does not do as Christ commands then find yourself a ministry that does. Don't use this as an excuse. If you're church does not worship God in spirit and in truth, if all the doctrines of Jesus are neglected, if your spirit does not bode well with the conduct of your church, find yourself a good church.
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by tk4rd: 7:42pm On Oct 08, 2017
mdokaba1:
It was a very stressful week for me as it involved lots of travels and all. So its a Saturday and I was paid for a project I did for the month past.

Going by my tired nature, I knew deep down me that there was no way I could have made it to church the next day and I was hell bent on paying my tithe because of the inherent blessings therein and the last thing on my mind would be to give it to my nebor to pay it for me. (The guy broke and besides I didn't want him to start calculating my take-home (Na sharp man). And I knew deep down that if I keep the money till the next time I would be in church, I was sure I would spend it. (God have mercy on me sha)

So I decided even before getting home to package my tithe and while in the market on a shopping spree I package my tithe and dropped it in the plate of an old beggar. (A mulsim beggar precisely)

Instantly, I saw 50 shades of shocks on her face as she looked at me for a few seconds and I could read her facials more like "For this Buharia?" Lols. And before I disappeared into the crowd, I could see/read her lips mutter prayers pointing towards me. And deep down, I felt blessed and fulfilled.

But was I wrong to have given my 10percent to a beggar instead of to the alter?

Opinions please.
It's like I missed something or what.??
Please come again..
What again was the reason that made you decide not to go to church the next day.?? (because you were not "tired" to go for shopping spree.. So,, how come the "tired nature" when it concerns church.??)
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by adjoviomole(m): 7:45pm On Oct 08, 2017
orjikuramo:
smiles....
in that quoted scripture, Jesus was giving a parable about a pharisee who was priding himself as one who does everything there is, so he is better than others and i read further down, he never employed us to continue paying our tithe......
thanks anyway for trying to put us through.
What of Matthew 23:23
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by survtony(m):
All of you still saying op is wrong and tithe is a commandment, I hope you prevent women from entering alter in your churches, don't eat unclean meats, etc.
That pastor that receives tithes, I hope he doesn't have any other means of survival, no inheritance, can't marry any woman of his choice, can't leave the church etc.
To follow a commandment, follow it to the fullest.
Stop quoting Abraham, read the full story on Him to understand what he tithed and why he did so.
Btw, if in those days there was a particular temple chosen by God where those levites stay, how come there are 2 churches now in a street? Which is the chosen one? Christianity is taking a different dimension. May God save us all
Re: I Just Gave My Tithe To A Beggar. Was I Wrong? by Gggg102(m): 7:46pm On Oct 08, 2017
JMystique:
This is seems to be the only scripture the people who don't want to pay tithe can find amongst the numerous scriptures on tithing. What about numbers 18:26,Proverbs 3:9-10,2 Chron 31:4-5,Gen 14:19-20,Gen 28:20-22,Neh 10:35-37, Malachi 3...and numerous more. That's where God talk about tithes being for his storehouse, and his priests and the blessings it comes with. Look,if you don't want to pay tithe to God's house don't pay,its not by force,it carries it's own special blessing,it's your money, do what you want with it. Just don't keep looking for how to justify it with how you used it to feed the homeless or raise the dead, you have 90% of your increase to use for that, but for some reason it's that small 10% you have to use for that one. Na wa, is anybody pointing gun at you people's head to pay tithes that it bothers you people so much? If you don't want to pay leave it,end of. It's almost like if you pay your tithes you can't give to the poor again,haba
I am not against paying of tithe what I don't agree with is that people are saying what op did was not tithe
to me it is tithe because tithe is for the poor.
it is not bad to pay tithe to the church if they use it to help the poor
but if the pastor is using your tithe to enrich himself it makes no sense
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