Amarabae:
sorry i only argue with intelligent human beings

His point is very valid, rather you're the one sounding unintelligent by your response.

Are you just planning to dredge aba river and expect ships to fly from the ocean and land on your seaport or what?

Please expantiate.

bamite:


any flight that crosses Nigerian airspace from biafra land will be shot down.

Plain and simple!!!

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahaha.
Nairaland i hail o

Tecno66:
So we now have original and fake Afonja. Very good.

No nah!!!!! The original Afonja that existed decades ago na.

gidgiddy:


Nobody is trying to push Nigeria into war, its just unfortunate that a lot of Nigerians dont know the difference between referendum and war

There is no difference in this country. Constitutionally there is no provision for such an event. Any such threat to the territorial integrity is a call to war especially when attempting to resurrect a defunct state that previously engaged in war.

If people in the us began to call for a referendum while flying confederate flags and yelling Dixie or death please believe The generals would put foot to yansh in a heartbeat.

Precambrian111:
Guest what only a fool called people morons

Only crazy people do the same thing and expect different results. Good day my friend.

PrecisionFx:


Pls show me a difference between the present failed nigeria, the obviously future less nigeria and a civil war

You are not even being serious. Don't chase death in a bid to call yourself brave.

Dedetwo:


This is absolute nonsensical trash and shameless falsehood. Not everyone who lived through Nigeria/Biafra war has condemned another round of it in order to achieve unconditional freedom. War has always being part of human nature and will continue to play a part in shaping of our future. I shall fight again and again to achieve freedom for my people.

You don't see the big picture. But continue on and enjoy your results.

Eastfield1:
Biafra is Vary possible, with well coordinated & Strategic Guerilla warfare.

Your brain is paining you right?



Who you wan go hit and runaway?


Hausa Fulani or yorubas abi na your fellow Igbos?

LoveMachine:


You are not even being serious. Don't chase death in a bid to call yourself brave.

Pls don't derail the matter.

Pls just show me one reason we can cling on to as the basis to fight for one nigeria.. Just one.

PrecisionFx:





Pls don't derail the matter.

Pls just show me one reason we can cling on to as the basis to fight for one nigeria.. Just one.

There is no matter. You changed the subject and now you're accusing me of derailing the the subject?

istandfortruth:
I understand that its Nnamdi Kanu's name that comes to mind each time the word Biafra is heard these days. Those hate-filled calls were wrong and sorry for that. He missed the point right there.

Now, it still doesn't mean that the aggitations doesn't carry truth in its belly for the aggitations of the east preceeds Nnamdi Kanu and will still continue after him if not addressed. Why is the east saying "I want to go"? Why is the thought of starting from scratch to build a new nation more prefereable than an existing nation? Its because there's absolutely no sense of belonging anymore. You also will leave a relationship if you find yourself in same shoes. That's why we must look towards building the kind of society of peace and not fake talks. The issue of nepotism or marginalisation in the present administration hasn't helped in uniting the nation but is in itself antithetical to unity. It will only bring more and more bloodshed both for this generation and the generations unborn.

So you want biafra everytime it doesn't favor you but when it favors you, u don't talk

during the last administration
igbo constitute more than 60% of GEJ's cabinet and we only have 1 yoruba man

but yoruba didn't cry but instead went back to the drawing board and came back with APC

There's no need for igbos politics of bitterness
you don't expect to reap from where you didn't sow

the igbo biafra is a blackmailing tool
either when it doesn't favor them or when they don't get what they want

... That's why nobody takes them serious

LoveMachine:


There is no difference in this country. Constitutionally there is no provision for such an event. Any such threat to the territorial integrity is a call to war especially when attempting to resurrect a defunct state that previously engaged in war.

If people in the us began to call for a referendum while flying confederate flags and yelling Dixie or death please believe The generals would put foot to yansh in a heartbeat.

Well it may interest you to know that confederates regularly have protest marches in which the wave the confederate flag, call the government in Washington all sorts of names and call for the return of the confederacy.

In Germany, Neo-Nazis regularly have protests in which they make racist remarks and call for the dismemberment of Germany.

Never have I heard that either America or Germany sent in troops to kill their own citizens for these protests.

Unlike Nigeria, Germany and the USA are civilised countries. They respect the sanctity of human life and they will not kill their own people over mere words and flags. They also respect the right of self determination.

Referendum may not be in the Nigerian constitution but that does not mean that people cannot agitate for it.

What matters is if the agitation is a violent one or not. Take IPOB for example, most of its protest have been non violent except for the occsional clash with Army and Police which is regular thing all over the world.

Only an armed group can threaten the territorial intergrity of Nigeria and IPOB is not armed

LoveMachine:


There is no matter. You changed the subject and now you're accusing me of derailing the the subject?

check again.

gidgiddy:


Well it may interest you to know that confederates regularly have protest marches in which the wave the confederate flag, call the government in Washington all sorts of names and call for the return of the confederacy.

In Germany, Neo-Nazis regularly have protests in which they make racist remarks and call for the dismemberment of Germany.

Never have I heard that either America or Germany sent in troops to kill their own citizens for these protests.

Unlike Nigeria, Germany and the USA are civilised countries. They respect the sanctity of human life and they will not kill their own people over mere words and flags. They also respect the right of self determination.

Referendum may not be in the Nigerian constitution but that does not mean that people cannot agitate for it.

What matters is if the agitation is a violent one or not. Take IPOB for example, most of its protest have been non violent except for the occsional clash with Army and Police which is regular thing all over the world.

Only an armed group can threaten the territorial intergrity of Nigeria and IPOB is not armed

Look at your own words. You call Nigeria uncivilized and then complain about barbaric behavior. Don't try to shake a crazy man's hand and then complain when he coughs in your face.

IPOB provokes the army which is notorious for unprofessional behavior and trigger happy soldiers. The difference between here and there is state police. Soldiers world over are madmen which is why our country is in the toilet whenever former soldiers are at the head of governance.

Restructuring for autonomy will give us "Biafra" within the Nigerian context. Another war would do us no good. I'm tired of reading about black people killing other black people.

Well well.
Let's start from the known to the unknown.

We already know that Nigeria is not viable. She remains a failed third world country after five decades of miserable existence.

If we accept the non viability of Nigeria, a country that still can't figure out how to provide basic amenities like electricity, good roads and portable water to her citizens in this era, and likely not to do same in the next 5 decades, what then does it matter if Biafra will be viable or non viable?

Let's be reasonable.
What's the worst that could happen? Ok, Biafra might become as non viable as Nigeria currently is, but atleast, Biafrans would no longer have to share a country with Islamic extremists, they wouldn't have to endure the menace of Fulani herdsmen , as the Biafran government would grant them full protection via well guarded national borders.
They wouldn't have to deal with the lopsided quota system that seem to punish the hardworkers and reward the lazy ones.

The above alone, makes the prospect of Biafra more appealing to the Igbo.

Biafra would be landlocked? Duh! Nigeria has all the sea access in the world, and is still a third world poor country with a thriving terrorist group in NE.
Somalia is also another failed third world country with massive sea coast line, and like Nigeria, also has Islamic extremists and terrorist group.

Biafra will be not be viable? Probably, but not certainly. But Nigeria non viability and third world status is a certainty and a reality and not a probability.

LoveMachine:


Look at your own words. You call Nigeria uncivilized and then complain about barbaric behavior. Don't try to shake a crazy man's hand and then complain when he coughs in your face.

IPOB provokes the army which is notorious for unprofessional behavior and trigger happy soldiers. The difference between here and there is state police. Soldiers world over are madmen which is why our country is in the toilet whenever former soldiers are at the head of governance.

Restructuring for autonomy will give us "Biafra" within the Nigerian context. Another war would do us no good. I'm tired of reading about black people killing other black people.

It is not true that Soldiers all over the world are mad men. How many times have you heard of US Soldiers shooting US citizens, whipping them, hitting them and brutalising them? How many times you heard the British Army brutalised thier own citizens in peace times?

Provocation is not the reason any armed force should shoot or kill people. If a civilian kills someone just because of being provoked, they would face manslaughter charges.

Restructuring is not a bad thing but the North will never agree to it. At least Nnamdi Kanu was saying he wants Biafra, rallying huge crowds, conducting successful sit at home protests, organising IPOB groups all over the world. At least you can see something being done

What do you see with restructuring? Mostly talk. The North already know that restructuring will never go beyond talking.

Restructuring is just a waste of time because those who want it have no idea how they will get the North who dont want it, to agree with it.

LoveMachine:
Look at your own words. You call Nigeria uncivilized and then complain about barbaric behavior. Don't try to shake a crazy man's hand and then complain when he coughs in your face.

IPOB provokes the army which is notorious for unprofessional behavior and trigger happy soldiers. The difference between here and there is state police. Soldiers world over are madmen which is why our country is in the toilet whenever former soldiers are at the head of governance.

Restructuring for autonomy will give us "Biafra" within the Nigerian context. Another war would do us no good. I'm tired of reading about black people killing other black people.

Very interesting post!!

gidgiddy:


It is not true that Soldiers all over the world are mad men. How many times have you heard of US Soldiers shooting US citizens, whipping them, hitting them and brutalising them? How many times you heard the British Army brutalised thier own citizens in peace times?

Provocation is not the reason any armed force should shoot or kill people. If a civilian kills someone just because of being provoked, they would face manslaughter charges.

Restructuring is not a bad thing but the North will never agree to it. At least Nnamdi Kanu was saying he wants Biafra, rallying huge crowds, conducting successful sit at home protests, organising IPOB groups all over the world. At least you can see something being done

What do you see with restructuring? Mostly talk. The North already know that restructuring will never go beyond talking.

Restructuring is just a waste of time because those who want it have no idea how they will get the North who dont want it, to agree with it.

Sometimes I think my words are misconstrued. I'm not condoning the shootings in fact I completely condemn the python dance operation. I just don't believe in tempting the devil then crying when I catch hell.

If the south and middle belt team up in the NASS they have enough votes to get the amendments necessary. Kanu can mobilize but he's wasting a golden opportunity. We all know he could win the Abia governor seat in 2019 if he ran. IPOB would sweep the East and even some of the niger delta states in all elections.

At this point he's talked himself into the position of a regional hero. He's at the point where he can't be rigged out at the ballot. If he were to lose by rigging the electorate would riot!

The allocations from the FG are more than enough to develop the regions if not for embezzlement. We are wasting time trying to destroy a system that is too big to fail. The very people who are responsible for our amalgamation are the ones he expects to liberate us? No chance! The west has no regard for our suffering.

We have to be our own saviors. We can wreck the system only from the inside.

CeterisXVII:


Very interesting post!!

The soldiers who kill should be held accountable for their actions and charged in court but in the mean time we should stop engaging. The sit home was brilliant.

LoveMachine:
Sometimes I think my words are misconstrued. I'm not condoning the shootings in fact I completely condemn the python dance operation. I just don't believe in tempting the devil then crying when I catch hell.

If the south and middle belt team up in the NASS they have enough votes to get the amendments necessary. Kanu can mobilize but he's wasting a golden opportunity. We all know he could win the Abia governor seat in 2019 if he ran. IPOB would sweep the East and even some of the niger delta states in all elections.

At this point he's talked himself into the position of a regional hero. He's at the point where he can't be rigged out at the ballot. If he were to lose by rigging the electorate would riot!

The allocations from the FG are more than enough to develop the regions if not for embezzlement. We are wasting time trying to destroy a system that is too big to fail. The very people who are responsible for our amalgamation are the ones he expects to liberate us? No chance! The west has no regard for our suffering.

We have to be our own saviors. We can wreck the system only from the inside.

Kanu has alienated people from southern zones outside his region, and has also alienated a lot of ethnic groups in the Middle Belt. So where would the support for his amendments come from? However, I do agree that he could use his group to get elected into political office within his region, in a bid to turn things around in his favour and then get what he wants, at the end of the day.....

CeterisXVII:

Kanu has alienated people from southern zones outside his region, and has also alienated a lot of ethnic groups in the Middle Belt. So where would the support for his amendments come from? However, I do agree that he could use his group to get elected into political office within his region, in a bid to turn things around in his favour and then get what he wants, at the end of the day.....

He's not the one calling for restructuring. That's OPC, Ohaneze, IYC and the rest of the south. The sociopolitical groups are all finally beginning to communicate so as to speak with one voice, vision and common aim. The middlebelt is tired of being slaughtered and only remembered when elections come so they're even joining.

In regards to Kanu, I was saying he should run for elected office because he's wasting too much time and too many lives trying to secede and form a country that he would inevitably become president of anyway. He can become a tinubu or PMB type figure who molds his region.

Sorry for the miscommunication.

How come your points are filled with so much bitterness and falsehood? Calm down first then read.

If GEJ fought agitations from MASSOB, does your 60% cabinet still make any sense? Though, i wonder where you got that from. The cabinet is available online kindly do your checks before making conclusions. Aggitations are natural when there's inequality. Its East today, it will surely be South South, North or West tommorrow if we don't come together as one. The only response to inequality is equality and not more and more inequality. We'll only fuel more aggitations and never ever get to develop as a country, if penury is what you love dearly then that's the right direction.

Also, I wonder where you got the politics of bitterness from because your responses look pretty bitter in my opinion.

Torylanez:


So you want biafra everytime it doesn't favor you but when it favors you, u don't talk

during the last administration
igbo constitute more than 60% of GEJ's cabinet and we only have 1 yoruba man

but yoruba didn't cry but instead went back to the drawing board and came back with APC

There's no need for igbos politics of bitterness
you don't expect to reap from where you didn't sow

the igbo biafra is a blackmailing tool
either when it doesn't favor them or when they don't get what they want

... That's why nobody takes them serious

Friend, you may sit and watch it being done.

checkolatunji:


Don't stress yourself. You can't change the situation

istandfortruth:
How come your points are filled with so much bitterness and falsehood? Calm down first then read.

If GEJ fought agitations from MASSOB, does your 60% cabinet still make any sense? Though, i wonder where you got that from. The cabinet is available online kindly do your checks before making conclusions. Aggitations are natural when there's inequality. Its East today, it will surely be South South, North or West tommorrow if we don't come together as one. The only response to inequality is equality and not more and more inequality. We'll only fuel more aggitations and never ever get to develop as a country, if penury is what you love dearly then that's the right direction.

Also, I wonder where you got the politics of bitterness from because your responses look pretty bitter in my opinion.

Agitations are not natural, they are artificial and in this case, Biafra Agitation came as a result of not getting the lion share like they did during GEJ tenure

Now they resulted into blasphemy, blackmailing of Buhari government and other tribes

during GEJ tenure, Igbos constitute 60%
I repeat it... The facts are on the cyber space for all to see

and the only major tribe that was schemed out were the Yorubas and yet they cried marginalisation but they didn't say they want to split or leave Nigeria

We have over 250 tribes in Nigeria and yet igbos claim they are the only ones marginalised...

How come?

is it because they didn't give them the largest share as usual again?

Biafra agitation came as a result of 2015 election loss by GEJ and we both Know Igbos are the largest chunk of GEJ's fan base

The same Nnamdi kanu abusing Hausa-fulanis, Buhari and Yorubas now was the same Nnamdi kanu in 2014 saying one Nigeria under GEJ

was even one of GEJ's campaigners

Suddenly he became your dilector and your hero

IPOB are hypocrites

They want what they can't offer

policy12:

He must be an Afonja...

Mumu, his name is OLISA AGBAKOBA

I've adviced you to use the internet but you have refused. Let me help clear your ignorance, check the list here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_of_President_Goodluck_Jonathan

You can ask for more and i'll gladly oblige. I'll do anything to reduce the bitterness you exhude.

Torylanez:


Agitations are not natural, they are artificial and in this case, Biafra Agitation came as a result of not getting the lion share like they did during GEJ tenure

Now they resulted into blasphemy, blackmailing of Buhari government and other tribes

during GEJ tenure, Igbos constitute 60%
I repeat it... The facts are on the cyber space for all to see

and the only major tribe that was schemed out were the Yorubas and yet they cried marginalisation but they didn't say they want to split or leave Nigeria

We have over 250 tribes in Nigeria and yet igbos claim they are the only ones marginalised...

How come?

is it because they didn't give them the largest share as usual again?

Biafra agitation came as a result of 2015 election loss by GEJ and we both Know Igbos are the largest chunk of GEJ's fan base

The same Nnamdi kanu abusing Hausa-fulanis, Buhari and Yorubas now was the same Nnamdi kanu in 2014 saying one Nigeria under GEJ

was even one of GEJ's campaigners

Suddenly he became your dilector and your hero

IPOB are hypocrites

They want what they can't offer

istandfortruth:
I've adviced you to use the internet but you have refused. Let me help clear your ignorance, check the list here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_of_President_Goodluck_Jonathan

You can ask for more and i'll gladly oblige. I'll do anything to reduce the bitterness you exhude.

The SGF was
The Aides?
Chief of Staff?
Special assistants?
Minister of petroleum?
Finance minister?
Labour minister?
Chief of Army Staff?
Air Marshal?
chief of Naval staff?

do u want more?

or u wanna keep dwelling in ignorance?

istandfortruth:
I've adviced you to use the internet but you have refused. Let me help clear your ignorance, check the list here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_of_President_Goodluck_Jonathan

You can ask for more and i'll gladly oblige. I'll do anything to reduce the bitterness you exhude.

uno even check your link before posting it

that's 10 Easterners in the ministerial appointments
what about aides? And kitchen cabinets?

just like I said

only a dullard will say GEJ government didn't suit the Easterners

All of a sudden you don't see the difference between Sout South and South East again? I knew you would delibelrately overlook the difference betweeen SS and SE because this time we are talking about appointments, but when its time to talk about other things you don't see them as one. I'm not the one with the problem its you. Know the difference between the SS and SE first then take a second look at that list and on other parastatals, military establishments etc and figure out how many easterners exist therein. My two cents

Torylanez:


The SGF was
The Aides?
Chief of Staff?
Special assistants?
Minister of petroleum?
Finance minister?
Labour minister?
Chief of Army Staff?
Air Marshal?
chief of Naval staff?

do u want more?

or u wanna keep dwelling in ignorance?

All of a sudden you don't see the difference between Sout South and South East again? I knew you would delibelrately overlook the difference betweeen SS and SE because this time we are talking about appointments, but when its time to talk about other things you don't see them as one. I'm not the one with the problem its you. Know the difference between the SS and SE first then take a second look at that list and on other parastatals, military establishments etc and figure out how many easterners exist therein. My two cents

Torylanez:


uno even check your link before posting it

that's 10 Easterners in the ministerial appointments
what about aides? And kitchen cabinets?

just like I said

only a dullard will say GEJ government didn't suit the Easterners

istandfortruth:
All of a sudden you don't see the difference between Sout South and South East again? I knew you would delibelrately overlook the difference betweeen SS and SE because this time we are talking about appointments, but when its time to talk about other things you don't see them as one. I'm not the one with the problem its you. Know the difference between the SS and SE first then take a second look at that list and on other parastatals, military establishments etc and figure out how many easterners exist therein. My two cents

don't be redundant and plain stoopid

SS and SE are only Geopolitical Zones
which means they are just political zones

but Geographical zones like South East and South West are intertwined because they both have similar tribal interlocking

don't be dumb

deep down in your mind you know GEJ favoured the Easterners

istandfortruth:
All of a sudden you don't see the difference between Sout South and South East again? I knew you would delibelrately overlook the difference betweeen SS and SE because this time we are talking about appointments, but when its time to talk about other things you don't see them as one. I'm not the one with the problem its you. Know the difference between the SS and SE first then take a second look at that list and on other parastatals, military establishments etc and figure out how many easterners exist therein. My two cents

Copy and paste oloshi

u got no facts to back up again?

sheeply hide in shame