We cannot understand all things now.

The moment we shed this body,

Our understanding will be full


Death is not bad afterall

Originakalokalo:



This is not scriptural sir.

The. Origin of Evil is simply the devil.

When he fell, he just became anti-God.

He does/ preach the opposite of what God wants.


That becomes evil.

He torments human simply bcoz we are God's

There are things we don't know but beyond human comprehension. The history behind this was what was given. Do you think Lucifer just woke and started thinking of becoming like God? Such though never came to him. In the process of thinking that Leviathan and Belial brought such thoughts to him that's why in Isaiah 14:12-17 say " How art thou fallen from heaven, o Lucifer son of the morning star! How art thou cut down to the ground, in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exhalt the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north. Like the most high. Yet thou shall be brought down to hell,to the sides of the pit. They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee,saying, is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms, that made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof, that opened not the house of his prisoners "
So the thought of being rebellious didn't spring forth just like that. It was initiated by those angels now demons.
It was when Yahweh casted them down to the earth that was when Lucifer decided to be rebellious as seen in Isaiah 14:12-17. He was able to convince half the angels to rebel against God as we see the battle in Rev 12:3-4 and 7-9. Lucifer was thrown down to the earth and was defeated.

Everything I have posted and will post is all in the scriptures.

No other source is used.

Angel Gabriel is the Arch angel in charge of special messages.

He Even purnished Zechariah for not believing his message. He told Zechariah that he stands in he presence of God.

That makes him a Cherubim or a Seraphim.


He was there to give Daniel the interpretation of his dreams.

Angels: What do they do?

1. They fight Spiritual battles for us. Against the demons.

Note that Michael had to fight the Prince of Persia to dethrone the Persian reign physically.

Persian reign did not favour the Israelites. The devils liked it like that.

After the fight and the victory, Persian reign was overthrown physically.

The favourable kingdom of Greece started. It favoured the Israelites.

Note: If you want to breakthrough (Break through difficulty etc). a change has to be fought for in the spiritual realm.

That's when you can have it physically. The Spiritual realm controls the physical.



Christians do not need to fight. We are only fighting a battle that has been won already.

Just mention the name and everything stands still. This doesn't look like a fight.

One day, we were about to pack up and leave our house. It was a rented apartment.

The night before, I saw two huge and powerful beings.

Since it was a Spiritual vision, I immediately knew that they were angels.

Their bodies looked like white ceramics glittering, with heavy Wings.

One of them told the other that:

Let's go. It seems this people are living here already.

They took off immediately and flew towards our new rented apartment.

I was probably 12 by them.

I will explain their next assignment of saving us from dangers.

Are demons not jinns
@Originalkalokalo

asuustrike2009:

The original rebellion was initiated by two angels of Lucifer called Belial and Leviathan. The two angels told Lucifer that he should be like God. The question Lucifer why should he work for God? And that he should be running things in the universe instead of taking orders from Yahweh. At first Lucifer declined. He refused to rebel against Yahweh. The lord casted those angels into hell for counseling rebillion,. This made Lucifer upset with God because they were his two closest friends. He told Yahweh that if he punished his friends he rather remain king in hell than to continue to be servant in heaven. Lucifer then left heaven on his own( at that time he wasn't casted yet) and went to hell to be with his friends. However, when he got there he didn't like the place at all. When he got there he realized that he had made a mistake rather than seeking for repentance and mercy he decided to fight Yahweh. Lucifer was able to convince 1/3 of the trillions of angels by appealing to them that Yahweh's government was unjust and dishonest. He told them that he would establish a better and more equitable government. He promised the angels greater positions of authority in the universe. Interesting Yahweh didn't interfer in what he plotted.he allowed them just as he gives moral beings the choice to choose. The battle started and there was war in heaven. The one third of angels fought together with Lucifer, Leviathan and Belial. They lost the battle and were thrown down to the earth.

were-human-been-on-earth-when-they-were-thrown-down?:And-why-did-yaweh-not-cast-them-directly-into-hell?

UmarIbnShittu:
Are demons not jinns
@Originalkalokalo

What is jinns?

stardragon:
were-human-been-on-earth-when-they-were-thrown-down?:And-why-did-yaweh-not-cast-them-directly-into-hell?

Human weren't existing when it occurred. Some of the angels are in hell with Lucifer while others are in the earth. Some are in the sea,rivers while some are in the heavenly.

Originakalokalo:



This is not scriptural sir.

The. Origin of Evil is simply the devil.

When he fell, he just became anti-God.

He does/ preach the opposite of what God wants.


That becomes evil.

He torments human simply bcoz we are God's

I explained them based on the scriptures you posted

MsNgo40:
Amazing how it wasn't enough for Lucifer (aka Satan) to hold the highest angelic position ...he was right underneath the Godhead.
He wanted to be God the Father.
Reminds me of us humans.....always striving for the top position when everyone doesn't need to be be in certain positions.
Question is: how did sin arise in the heart of an angel ...in a perfect place?
That's what is called the "mystery of iniquity".
That's not something we will know until we make it to the kingdom.

Good thinking.

Nice one.

asuustrike2009:

Human weren't existing when it occurred. Some of the angels are in hell with Lucifer while others are in the earth. Some are in the sea,rivers while some are in the heavenly.

Biblical scholars called the one-third that follows the devil DEMONS.

We don't refer to them as angels.

asuustrike2009:

I explained them based on the scriptures you posted

Ok then.

God will continue to teach us all.

asuustrike2009:

I explained them based on the scriptures you posted

One third followed the devil.

Imagine a life on Earth without the name of Jesus.

The presence of the church reduces their strength for both believers and unbelievers.

Even at that, look at what the world is.


The moment the church is taken away,

The World will know Evil.

First Hand evil.

That's when those at the level of Principalities and Powers will be able to manifest on Earth.


They can't now. Not directly. Because of the Church.


It is better to be a stone. Than to be present during this deadly period as human.

The world will know the meaning of

Arch Angel Lucifer.

First Hand.


That's why the book of Revelation is so deadly and scary.

The Beast, the second in command to the devil, and the devil himself will be operating on Earth.

Principalities and Powers on Earth!!!!!

Saving us from Dangers.

One angel rescued Peter from the Prison.

The gate of the prison opened by itself.


Angels can appear as humans. They are not tho.

The ones that rescued Lot and his wife appeared as humans.

The people wanted to even sleep with them.

The Angels threw blindness at them.

A woman was kidnapped. When it was about time to kill her for rituals,

A man walked in and called her name.

With confidence as tho he was part of them.

When she identified herself, he held her and asked her to follow him.

He led him to the main road and then disappeared.

They do that a lot.

Originakalokalo:




Biblical scholars called the one-third that follows the devil DEMONS.

We don't refer to them as angels.

Yeah they're demons

An Angel can kill more than a hundred thousand humans with a swift.

In a battle of the Israelites, Joshua saw one with his sword drawn.

Over night, he killed 185,000 of the enemies .

Again, this is done spiritually.

And in the physical, the enemy suffered serious defeat. Unexplainable.

How do you explain three Nations, fighting one.

And the soldiers of the first nation fought those of the second Nation..

While the third watched.

The winner of the two that fought then fought against those of the third Nation.

This fight had no winner or losers.

All of them died.

It was settled in the Spiritual.

A physical cause will of course led to this massacre.

MizMyColi:
I saw this topic and the first thing that came to mind was you, Sarassin.

Hello

Hiya Miz

Originakalokalo:



What is jinns?

jinn aka genie : that are supernatural spirits created with fire and can take d form of anything on earth

UmarIbnShittu:
jinn aka genie : that are supernatural spirits created with fire and can take d form of anything on earth

I will classify them under demons.

Terestial .

They are not angels.

Angels are with God. After whatever assignment Angels have on Earth,

They return to God as Soon as they are done.

They won't just be moving up and down.

Even tho they display themselves as angels of light,

They are demons and their is nothing good about them.

If that angel does not RETURN TO GOD,

HE IS NOT AN ANGEL OF GOD.

Sarassin:

Hiya Miz

Well,
Hello There!

Pls read my Thread on Principalities and Powers. Who are they?

It will give you a clear picture of the opposite of what we have here.

You will understand better.

Originakalokalo:




I will classify them under demons.

Terestial .

They are not angels.

Angels are with God. After whatever assignment Angels have on Earth,

They return to God as Soon as they are done.

They won't just be moving up and down.

Even tho they display themselves as angels of light,

They are demons and their is nothing good about them.

If that angel does not RETURN TO GOD,

HE IS NOT AN ANGEL OF GOD.

I knw dat dey are not angels becoz angels were created from light except ibliss (lucifer) hu was created from fire like d genies dats y he can control d heart of men

How do I know the angel of God?


1. If he appears as an angel of "light" ie with lights.....that doesn't mean that he is of God.

When you are scared because of his Physical Nature,

He will tell you..." Fear not"

A demon in angel form will like you to be scared. Fear is reverence to them.


2. When an Angel of God appears, you will not display anything out of the ordinary. I.e like falling down, foaming, etc. You might be scared.

He will calm you down.

3. An Angel of God will not contradict God's word. Never.

A prophet said Gabriel told him that anyone who did not worship any other God except Allah will get to heaven..." Even if he commits sexual immorality"

You should know that that angel is not Gabriel.

Originakalokalo:

We cannot understand all things now.

The moment we shed this body,

Our understanding will be full


Death is not bad afterall

I can't wait to start learning mysteries in Heaven

Matthew 8:11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.

Paul said, he heard unlawful things

2 Corinthians 12:4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

Am having this feeling that even on earth, we can peep into the archives of heaven and with much prayer, we can establish ans build on earth, what is built in heaven

GodsMopol:


I can't wait to start learning mysteries in Heaven

Matthew 8:11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.

Paul said, he heard unlawful things

2 Corinthians 12:4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

Answer having this feeling that even on earth, we can peep into the archives of heaven and with much prayer, we can establish ans build on earth, what is built in heaven

You're a Bible scholar.

Thumbs up.

That passage of the Bible trips me anytime.

It was Paul.

He just tried to be modest

That is power!!!

Originakalokalo:



You're a Bible scholar.

Thumbs up.

That passage of the Bible trips me anytime.

It was Paul.

He just tried to be modest

That is power!!!

I just love Gods presence and always wanna be there, just perceiving those beautiful fragrance

Yea, about being a bible scholar, I happen to listen wide. I can listen to messages all day, as long as you preach grace, redemption and faith, well, its correct that, without holiness, no one shall see or be righteous(right to stand- prayer)

I recently heard this while praying recently, I heard, if we say we have no sins, we deceive ourselves, do you know what I got as interpretation.

Intercession

Daniel say, Daniel 9:9 To the Lord our God belong mercies and forgivenesses, though we have rebelled against him;

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Interpretation( well, from my level)

If we say, we shouldn't pray for the whole world to come to the knowledge of the truth and we live as though, we shouldn't intercede regularly, we deceive ourselves and the light(life) of the Son is not in us. I rest my case. I leave you to this verses sir

Luke 10:2 Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.

2 Thess 3:1 Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you: 2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith. 3 But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil. 4 And we have confidence in the Lord touching you, that ye both do and will do the things which we command you. 5 And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ.

John 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

GodsMopol:


I just love Gods presence and always wanna be there, just perceiving those beautiful fragrance

Yea, about being a bible scholar, I happen to listen wide. I can listen to messages all day, as long as you preach grace, redemption and faith, well, its correct that, without holiness, no one shall see or be righteous(right to stand- prayer)

I recently heard this while praying recently, I heard, if we say we have no sins, we deceive ourselves, do you know what I got as interpretation.

Intercession

Daniel say, Daniel 9:9 To the Lord our God belong mercies and forgivenesses, though we have rebelled against him;

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Interpretation( well, from my level)

If we say, we shouldn't pray for the whole world to come to the knowledge of the truth and we live as though, we shouldn't intercede regularly, we deceive ourselves and the light(life) of the Son is not in us. I rest my case. I leave you to this verses sir

Luke 10:2 Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.

2 Thess 3:1 Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you: 2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith. 3 But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil. 4 And we have confidence in the Lord touching you, that ye both do and will do the things which we command you. 5 And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ.

John 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

Well done. Inspiration of his world is light.

God bless you.

Angels will not accept a worship from you.

If you attempt to worship an angel, maybe due to his physical form,

He will decline and tell you to worship God.



Angels cannot live inside men

Man is the image of God. They dare not.

A demon could. To cause pains.

Holy Spirit of God is involved in Deliverance.

Not Angels.




Angels at the end of Time:


They shall bind the devil

and that's the end of his activities.

Originakalokalo:


How do I know the angel of God?


1. If he appears as an angel of "light" ie with lights.....that doesn't mean that he is of God.

When you are scared because of his Physical Nature,

He will tell you..." Fear not"

A demon in angel form will like you to be scared. Fear is reverence to them.


2. When an Angel of God appears, you will not display anything out of the ordinary. I.e like falling down, foaming, etc. You might be scared.

He will calm you down.

3. An Angel of God will not contradict God's word. Never.

A prophet said Gabriel told him that anyone who did not worship any other God except Allah will get to heaven..." Even if he commits sexual immorality"

You should know that that angel is not Gabriel.

he was passing the message d of loyalty to Allah he didn't say dere is no punishment for committing a sin

UmarIbnShittu:
he was passing the message d of loyalty to Allah he didn't say dere is no punishment for committing a sin

Ok.