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blackbriar:
Keep encouraging yourself with such quotes.
you that go to hate web sites to get your notorious ideas , have you questioned your mental state or are you just scared to publicly declare your faith.
remember what the good lord said about those who deny him.

blackbriar:
Keep encouraging yourself with such quotes.
you that go to hate web sites to get your notorious ideas , have you questioned your mental state or are you just scared to publicly declare your faith.
remember what the good lord said about those who deny him.

johnw74:
sites that give bible verses for what they teach, you bb call hate sites, of course you would

hey mental as anything, you are copycatting

yes i remember what my good Lord said about you denying him and following a rcc false christ:
Mat_10:33  But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

johnw74:
uben, more lies of yours and satans church exposed:

THE PRIESTHOOD

The Roman Catholic Church teaches that Jesus Christ ordained the twelve apostles to the priesthood at the Last Supper and that the powers of the priesthood were handed down during the past two thousand years. This teaching is clearly contrary to the Word of God.

In the Old Testament the work of Christ was prefigured under the three offices of prophet, priest and king. The nation of Israel had each office. With the coming of Christ each of these offices found its fulfillment in Him. Thus in the New Testament there is no need for a human sacrificing priesthood.
John 19:30. It is consummated.
I Timothy 2:5. There is one God, and one Mediator...Christ Jesus.
Hebrews 7:24. Because he continues forever, has an everlasting (non-transferable, intransmissible) priesthood.
Hebrews 7:25. He lives always to make intercession.
Hebrews 7:27. He does not need to offer sacrifices daily.
Hebrews 9:12. Having obtained eternal redemption.
Hebrews 10:10. We have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
I Corinthians 12:28. God indeed has placed some in the Church, first apostles, secondly prophets, thirdly teachers...(no mention of sacramental priests).
Ephesians 4:11. He Himself gave some men as apostles, and some as prophets, others again as evangelists, and others as pastors and teachers...(again no mention of sacramental priests).
I Peter 5:1-3. I, your fellow-presbyter and witness...(Nothing about being a priest).

The office of priest is not the same as minister. The concept of a mediating, sacrificing priesthood originated and developed under Cyprian, the theological authority in the West until the time of Augustine, and was part of the merger of paganism with Christianity. Nowhere in the Scriptures will on find evidence of a mediating, sacrificing priesthood after Christ.

johnw74:
Luke. 22:19 And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me."
uben you believe Jesus gave His literal flesh to the apostles to eat ^^^ then you must believe that God is a literal rock vvv
2Sa_22:32  For who is God, save the LORD? and who is a rock, save our God?

johnw74:
Luke. 22:19 And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me."
uben you believe Jesus gave His literal flesh to the apostles to eat ^^^ then you must believe that God is a literal rock vvv
2Sa_22:32  For who is God, save the LORD? and who is a rock, save our God?

johnw74:
for those other than rcc who are reading here

Joh 6:55  For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. 


John 6:53-55
In these verses Jesus repeats what he had in substance said before.
Except ye eat the flesh ... - He did not mean that this should be understood literally, for it was never done, and it is absurd to suppose that it was intended to be so understood. Nothing can possibly be more absurd than to suppose that when he instituted the Supper, and gave the bread and wine to his disciples, they literally ate his flesh and drank his blood. Who can believe this? There he stood, a living man - his body yet alive, his blood flowing in his veins; and how can it be believed that this body was eaten and this blood drunk? Yet this absurdity must be held by those who hold that the bread and wine at the communion are “changed into the body, blood, and divinity of our Lord.” So it is taught in the decrees of the Council of Trent; and to such absurdities are men driven when they depart from the simple meaning of the Scriptures and from common sense. It may be added that if the bread and wine used in the Lord’s Supper were not changed into his literal body and blood when it was first instituted, they have never been since.
The Lord Jesus would institute it just as he meant it should be observed, and there is nothing now in that ordinance which there was not when the Saviour first appointed it. His body was offered on the cross, and was raised up from the dead and received into heaven. Besides, there is no evidence that he had any reference in this passage to the Lord’s Supper. That was not yet instituted, and in that there was no literal eating of his flesh and drinking of his blood. The plain meaning of the passage is, that by his bloody death - his body and his blood offered in sacrifice for sin - he would procure pardon and life for man; that they who partook of that, or had an interest in that, should obtain eternal life. He uses the figure of eating and drinking because that was the subject of discourse; because the Jews prided themselves much on the fact that their fathers had eaten manna; and because, as he had said that he was the bread of life, it was natural and easy, especially in the language which he used, to carry out the figure, and say that bread must be eaten in order to be of any avail in supporting and saving men. To eat and to drink, among the Jews, was also expressive of sharing in or partaking of the privileges of friendship. The happiness of heaven and all spiritual blessings are often represented under this image, Mat_8:11; Mat_26:29; Luk_14:15, etc.

Joh_6:55

Is meat indeed - Is truly food. My doctrine is truly that which will give life to the soul.

Albert Barnes

Ubenedictus:
when did these your Christians compiled
their own new testament?



or you just went blank? uh?

johnw74:
bb, more lies of yours and satans church exposed:


CONFESSION OR THE SACRAMENT OF PENANCE

The Roman Catholic Church teaches that her priests exercise the power of forgiving sins by hearing confession of sins and granting pardon for them as ministers of God and in His name.

This teaching is not from the Bible.
I Esdras 10:11. Now make confession to the Lord the God of your fathers.
Mark 2:7. Who can forgive sins, but only God.
Acts 4:12. Neither is there salvation in any other.
Acts 8:12. Repent...and pray to God. (Peter did not hear his confession and forgive him, but said, "pray to God".)
I John 1:7. The Blood of Jesus Christ...cleanses us from all sin.
I John 1:9. If we acknowledge our sins. (To God, not to a priest - automatic confession and absolution.)
I John 2:1. If anyone sins we have an advocate (Jesus) with the Father.

Throughout the Bible remission of sin and salvation are connected with faith in Christ, nowhere with priestly absolution. In order to support her tribunal upon earth, the Roman Catholic Church mis-interprets Matthew 16:19, "I will give thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven". Also Matthew 18:18, "Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound also in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven". And John 20:23, "Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained". First of all, the "keys of the kingdom" refers to the authority to proclaim the terms of salvation in Christ. This is the privilege and duty of all Christian believers. The authority to bind and loose is first and foremost the commission to proclaim the gospel which liberates those who believe it, and consigns to bondage those who reject it. The Roman Catholic Church misinterprets this text in order to support the practice of confessing sins to a priest. The Biblical context clearly indicates, however, that the words of Matthew 16:19, 18:18, and John 20:23 were not only spoken to the apostles but also to those believers who were with them. Christian ministers are to preach repentance, but nothing is said about hearing confession and the granting of absolution (forgiveness of sins).

johnw74:
you may notice bb oh evil one, that this site which you call a hate site
teaches from God's word
and your calling this God preaching website a hate site, is calling God hateful
but your god is hateful, and that's where all of your rot comes from


bb, more lies of yours and satans church exposed:


JUSTIFICATION

The most important question pertinent to religion is, "how may a man obtain the forgiveness of (his) sins?" Here is where the most significant deviation occurs. The Bible teaches that "faith" secures the remission of sins (Acts 10:43) while Roman Catholicism teaches that the "sacraments" (in addition to faith) do. We must be very precise here for the Apostle Paul said that any different way of salvation, even if given by an angel, would be accursed. Jesus said that the seed sown on good ground "understood" the way of salvation (Matthew 13:23). We urge you to embrace the Lord's way and let go of the former way. The Scripture says, "Having been justified therefore by faith, let us have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" (Romans 5:1). One Catholic writer is defending his Church made a statement that we all should heed. He said that if faith alone saves "the whole traditional structure of Christianity is a needless empty show, the Mass, the sacraments, the sacrificing priesthood, the teaching hierarchy, the papacy, practices of penance, asceticism, habits of self-restraint, prayer. Nay, these things are a hindrance, an enormous sham, a terrible system of lies, and therefore to be utterly swept away and destroyed." Philip Hughes, A POPULAR HISTORY OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, p. 176. True Biblical Christianity rejects the notion that salvation is a moral process, that the sinner is "made" just, or "works out" his salvation by his own deeds.

Heed what God teaches in the following texts:
John 3:3. Unless a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
John 3:16. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that those who believe in him may not perish, but may have life everlasting.
John 5:24. He who hears my word, and believes him who sent me, has life everlasting, and does not come to judgment, but has passed from death to life.
Acts 4:12. Neither is there salvation in any other.
Romans 4:5. but to him who does not work, but believes in him who justifies the impious, his faith is credited to him.
Romans 4:6. David declares the blessedness of the man to whom God credits justice without works.
Romans 3:28. We reckon that a man is justified by faith independently of the works of the Law.
Romans 5:1. Having been justified therefore by faith.
Romans 10:3. Ignorant of the justice of God, and seeking to establish their own, they have not submitted to the justice of God.
Titus 3:5. Not by reason of good works that we did ourselves, but according to his mercy...

Prayer: Heavenly Father, in the name of Jesus I ask forgiveness of my sins. I give my life to you that I may receive the Son and that the Holy Spirit may work in me to will and to do of His good pleasure. Because your Word says so, I believe that You have heard my prayer and have forgiven my sins. I promise to study and obey the Scriptures so that my knowledge and faith can increase. Amen.

myc dot org

blackbriar:
Good you know the verse, so would you be so please as to share with us your christian beliefs

Ubenedictus:
the concept of a new testament ministerial priesthood come from Paul


“On some points I have written to you very
boldly … because of the grace given me by
God to be a minister of Christ Jesus to the
Gentiles in the priestly service of the gospel
of God so that the offering of the Gentiles
may be acceptable, sanctified by the Holy
Spirit” (vv. 15-16).
- Romans 15:14-16


read your Bible sometimes

Ubenedictus:
did Jesus take a rock and say this rock is me?


because Jesus did take bread and say this is my body.

Ubenedictus:
haha

Albert Barnes and Johnw74 has shown they can't discern the body of Christ.

1 cor 11:29
For those who eat and drink without discerning the
body of Christ eat and drink judgment on
themselves.

Ubenedictus:
johnw74 it seems you still can't answer

Ubenedictus:
John 20:23, "Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained

Ubenedictus:
38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every
one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the
forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift
of the Holy Spirit.

johnw74:
you are such a girl, how old are you 8 or 9?

blackbriar:
All this for asking you to say out loud your Christian beliefs even after you quoted about not denying christ

Ubenedictus:
did Jesus take a rock and say this rock is me?


because Jesus did take bread and say this is my body.

Ubenedictus:
read your Bible sometimes

johnw74:
no, oh lying one, not all of this for you saying once, but for you repeating very many times "what are my beliefs" like a little girl wanting to get her own way, after i had already told you I'm not interested in talking much with satans church, and that i like to show up your lies which keeps me very busy

but there you go lying again bb


uben does that to, his another girly
come to think of it someone else was repeating the same thing over and over again wanting to get his way too

it must be a rc trait

but no surprise, your god satan is also a girly, appearing as a fake mary

johnw74:
uben, Jesus did take bread and say this is my body,
and you believe Him, which is good, although you don't understand Him

however God inspired samuel to say that He - God is a rock,
and you don't believe God, that is bad, and you don't understand Him of course


Luke. 22:19 And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body given for

you; do this in remembrance of me."




2Sa_22:32 For who is God, save the LORD? and who is a rock, save our God?

you uben believe the bread Jesus gave His apostles to eat was literally Jesus body,
and you believe uben that the wine Jesus gave his apostles to drink was literally Jesus blood

so measuring by the same yardstick so to speak,
you uben, must believe that God is a literal rock

johnw74:
uben, you don't believe or understand the Bible,
and you tell others to read their bible

what a pharisee hypocrite you are

blackbriar:
"but no surprise, your god satan is also a girly, appearing as a fake mary" all these dram just fro simply asking you to share your faith?

blackbriar:
John 6-------- anyone who eats the bread and drinks the wine (flesh and blood) will “not die” (6:50), will “live for ever” (6:51, 58), will have “eternal life” (6:54), will “abide” in Christ, and He “in him” (6:56), will “live” (6:57).
Read more at http://www.patheos.com/blogs/davearmstrong/2016/03/is-john-6-about-holy-communion.html#boKlSGmXK6KhYz8b.99

Ubenedictus:
at least you who claim to have all knowledge of scriptures from your copy and paste site was pretty ignorant that their is a ministerial priesthood in the new testament.



you are like a zombie and copy and paste is your software, so you are incapable of any sort of reasoning that doesn't involve copy and paste.



so yes the Catholic Church and the Bible agree there is a ministerial priesthood and you would have known this if you had bothered to read your bible.