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Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by Ubenedictus(m): 3:07pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
johnw74: you said that in this post johnw74 : uben, more lies of yours and satans church exposed: THE PRIESTHOOD The Roman Catholic Church teaches that Jesus Christ ordained the twelve apostles to the priesthood at the Last Supper and that the powers of the priesthood were handed down during the past two thousand years. This teaching is clearly contrary to the Word of God. In the Old Testament the work of Christ was prefigured under the three offices of prophet, priest and king. The nation of Israel had each office. With the coming of Christ each of these offices found its fulfillment in Him. Thus in the New Testament there is no need for a human sacrificing priesthood. John 19:30. It is consummated. I Timothy 2:5. There is one God, and one Mediator...Christ Jesus. Hebrews 7:24. Because he continues forever, has an everlasting (non-transferable, intransmissible) priesthood. Hebrews 7:25. He lives always to make intercession. Hebrews 7:27. He does not need to offer sacrifices daily. Hebrews 9:12. Having obtained eternal redemption. Hebrews 10:10. We have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. I Corinthians 12:28. God indeed has placed some in the Church, first apostles, secondly prophets, thirdly teachers... (no mention of sacramental priests) . Ephesians 4:11. He Himself gave some men as apostles, and some as prophets, others again as evangelists, and others as pastors and teachers... (again no mention of sacramental priests) . I Peter 5:1-3. I, your fellow-presbyter and witness... (Nothing about being a priest) . The office of priest is not the same as minister. The concept of a mediating, sacrificing priesthood originated and developed under Cyprian, the theological authority in the West until the time of Augustine, and was part of the merger of paganism with Christianity. Nowhere in the Scriptures will on find evidence of a mediating, sacrificing priesthood after Christ. |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by Ubenedictus(m): 3:10pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
johnw74: he he he you claimed the new testament doesn't record a priesthood... now you're shifting. you speak from both sides of your mouth, no wonder you're a Protestant 2 Likes |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by Ubenedictus(m): 3:13pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
johnw74:hahaha. Jesus said my flesh is real food. johnw74 says no Jesus flesh isn't real food what more can we expect from followers of 16th century heretics 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by Ubenedictus(m): 3:16pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
johnw74:as usual. you're been duplicitous, jumping from one topic to another. and yes every early Christian worship place had images, I don't just believe the apostles would used images... even archeology says same. 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by Ubenedictus(m): 3:18pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
johnw74: so how come it is impossible to find a Christian worship place from 1st to 16th century that didn't have images? 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by johnw74: 12:03am On Oct 30, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: duh, christians read the writings of peter paul and the others long before the satanic roman catholic church was formed you refer to rc's as pagan, but anyway they certinally are not christian and i'm not interisted in searching for you: "when the protestant canonised their own new testament", do the search yourself, it makes no diffrence at all to what i said except in your own blinded mind: 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by johnw74: 12:13am On Oct 30, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: i back up all my claims with God's word, you cannot do that even once but you uben being who you are, of the devil, cannot tell the truth and falsely accuse, always: Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by johnw74: 1:00am On Oct 30, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: uben, i told you: "i have no problem with paul and the other apostles being priests of God" and you replied: first you say there are no priesthood in the new testament. now I have proven you wrong and you have diverted into another thing. uben you have proven nothing, except your confusion then uben, you again falsely accuse: "it must be confusing for you after you attacked the priesthood only to find its in the Bible" truly there was no attack on anything, just a showing of the truth that above which you posted uben, i copied and pasted from a christian website, which you know, you kept accusing of copying and pasting, as if there is something wrong with that christians are kings and priests in Christ, it is not the priesthood of the old testament the writer of the above, that you posted, gave bible verses supporting the points made, give me your twisted meanings of those bible verses, and i will show you again where you are wrong |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by johnw74: 1:04am On Oct 30, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: i haven't shifted at all, but your confusion and lies are habitual i'm not a protestant, you know nothing and say anything |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by johnw74: 1:08am On Oct 30, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: i never said that at all, i said Jesus flesh isn't physical food, you lie and make false claims in most every post: Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by johnw74: 1:13am On Oct 30, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: uben you call my showing you to be wrong as: " jumping from one topic to another" yeah ok, showing you to be wrong and showing you to be lying is what i like to do |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by Ubenedictus(m): 1:24am On Oct 30, 2017 |
johnw74:hehehe yeah you mean his flesh isn't real food, it is figurative food or better metaphorical food. you call Jesus a liar simply because of Calvin's 16th century heresy. 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by Ubenedictus(m): 1:30am On Oct 30, 2017 |
johnw74: your copy and paste claims there is no priesthood, now you remember every Christian is a priest, then you forgot Paul talks of a specific ministerial priesthood 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by Ubenedictus(m): 1:34am On Oct 30, 2017 |
johnw74:after claiming you guys made your own new testament.... why am I not surprised you can't prove it. the usual Protestant package... make claims you can't back up. 1 Like |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by Ubenedictus(m): 1:39am On Oct 30, 2017 |
johnw74:hehehe....and through out the thread you have been contradicting both Jesus and the historic Christian faith like the young Protestant heretics you are. |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by Ubenedictus(m): 1:48am On Oct 30, 2017 |
johnw74: oh I saw you backing your claims with copy and paste and someone called Barnes... lol...then you end up telling us that Jesus flesh is figurative food not the real food he said it is. |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by johnw74: 6:23am On Oct 31, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: uben you call my showing you to be wrong as: " jumping from one topic to another" yeah ok, showing you to be wrong and showing you to be lying is what i like to do |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by johnw74: 6:35am On Oct 31, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: uben, forever the false accuser i never said His flesh is not real food, i said it is not physical food but for you uben, lying is just speaking naturally, following your god: Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. ^^^ uben, like you, satan when he speaks a lie, is just speaking naturally you uben think people eat Jesus physical body and drink His physical blood, your church could tell you anything and you would believe it, and they do, and you do believe it, ha ha |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by johnw74: 6:39am On Oct 31, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: uben, you of course keep repeating your same lies over and over again, read my post again oh confused one: johnw74: |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by johnw74: 6:47am On Oct 31, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: again your usual repeated confusion and lies, to your false accusations already responded to but then, your god is the father of lies, confusion and false accusations |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by johnw74: 6:54am On Oct 31, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: uben your lies are never ending you don't believe God, but use His word where it suits you, and of course you understand next to nothing, and how could you know truth, your teacher is satan via the rcc |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by johnw74: 6:58am On Oct 31, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: of course satans disciple cannot stop lying, i clearly never denied Jesus body is real food, but it's not physical food which you claim to eat, oh deluded one Joh 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. ^^^ Jesus doesn't give physical meat to believers, which goes into the mouth and out the other end, the meat that Jesus gives us endureth unto everlasting life the communion wafer of bread that rc's eat doesn't endure forever, but rots away, however rc's will never let go of their satanic lies, and believe God's truth Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. and of course i know these verses - God's word, means nothing at all to you uben, you don't believe them, bad for you: Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by johnw74: 7:22am On Oct 31, 2017 |
continued from here: https://www.nairaland.com/4010166/catholicisms-shocking-attitude-toward-bible/14#61865688 www.nairaland.com/attachments/6183995_2_gif274a01ad7ad7ad7d73d5f0b399ae5db2 1Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. www.nairaland.com/attachments/6184007_3_gif068ae40523a24c9ef54edefd375e542d |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by Ubenedictus(m): 12:37pm On Oct 31, 2017 |
johnw74: lol let me explain why you are wrong. when Jesus said my flesh is REAL food, the Greek word used there is ἀληθής it means LITERAL, unconcealed Thayer's Greek Lexicon STRONGS NT 227: ἀληθής ἀληθής , (ές (alpha privative and λήθω , λαθεῖν (λανθάνω ), τό λῆθος — cf. ἀμαθής ; literally, not hidden, unconcealed) you are contradicting Jesus |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by Ubenedictus(m): 12:38pm On Oct 31, 2017 |
johnw74:and your teacher is Satan through copy and paste |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by johnw74: 2:06am On Nov 01, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: Ubenedictus: quote uben= hehehe i haven't seen anyone else here enjoy laughing at posts backed by God's word as much as you do you will have your reward: Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by johnw74: 2:11am On Nov 01, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: uben the articles i post are supported by God's word, which is also posted, you uben say they are from satan: Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by johnw74: 4:39am On Nov 01, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: duh false accuser uben, let me explaim why you are wrong although i'm sure you cannoot possibly see it: 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. yes, the word flesh is literally flesh, Jesus wasn't saying His body is popcorn and Jesus wasn't saying to eat His physical body and to drink His physical blood, double duh uben when you eat your communion wafer and later poop it out, that is not the meat that endures to everlasting life: Joh 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. communion is not a person giving other people a dry wafer of bread and saying this is the body of Christ, ha ha when Jesus said do this in rememberance of me: communion is doing what Jesus and the apostles did on that night, it is believers gathering together to dine - eat and drink and share our common faith in Christ communion G2842 κοινωνία koinōnia koy-nohn-ee'-ah From G2844; partnership, that is, (literally) participation, or (social) intercourse, or (pecuniary) benefaction: - (to) communicate (-ation), communion, (contri-), distribution, fellowship. Total KJV occurrences: 20 lol uben, you know next to nothing |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by johnw74: 4:47am On Nov 01, 2017 |
believers coming together to dine and fellowship in the faith of Jesus is having communion, is figuratively eating of the body of Christ, and drinking His blood. |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by johnw74: 5:06am On Nov 01, 2017 |
already posted: helen and the sacrament of baptism: https://www.nairaland.com/4010166/catholicisms-shocking-attitude-toward-bible/14#61865688 helen and the sacrament of penance: https://www.nairaland.com/4010166/catholicisms-shocking-attitude-toward-bible/15#61929803 the study of helens life in the rcc continues tomorrow with: helen and the sacrament of communion |
Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by johnw74: 5:16am On Nov 01, 2017 |
Joh_6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. they that come to Jesus and believe on Him never hunger or thirst, it's not because they eat and drink His physical body and blood though oh uben |
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