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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by Nobody: 1:23pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Op, it's a fact that all people were black at first and originated in the Horn of Africa, so don't say that whites came from black as if it's a new discovery. Around 8,000 BC, the ancestors of all the current people who speak different branches of the Afro-Asiatic super family were one people and spoke one language in Eastern Africa (mostly in west Ethiopia). Those ppl now speak the Afro-Asiatic super family branches:- - Cushitic family languages - Semitic family languages - Omotic family languages - Berber family languages - Chadic family languages and, - Ancient Egyptian language(extinct) Ethiopians, Eritreans, Somalians and Djiboutians are predominantly Cushite ppl and their features are similar with Europeans. I don't think it's realistic for whites to originate from those early Afro-Asiatic speaking ppl and became white in just 5,000 years. Even if the Ancient whites weren't white like the current whites, they were present in Europe for many tens of thousands of years. 1 Share
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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 4:27pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Hati13: Whichever part of Africa resulted in White People, their depigmentation did not take place in Europe or Africa. The oldest skeletons in Europe have cranial features of Black People. The horn of Africa could have been the take of point for some of the pedestrian part of the Out of Africa Migration. But Southern Europe is just 10km from Northern Africa at Morroco. Why has this being ignored ? |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by Nobody: 5:57pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
jantavanta:The 1st Humans left Africa via Horn of Africa. The current European became white in northern and eastern Europe/Asia. Some of the Asian ancestors became white in northern, eastern and central Asia(northern China). The environment is Southern Europe will not make you white like European and some Asian whiteness. There was continuous cycle in out and return migration to Africa. Some whites may came to Northern Africa and cross the Mediterranean to Southern Europe. |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 9:13pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Hati13: Why was it easier for Africans to leave through the Horn of Africa, than to cross the current maximum of 10 km into Europe? The environment of Northern Europe did not make Polar Bears to lose their skin colour beneath their white fur. Ultraviolet radiation index is high in winter in Northern Europe, so melanin is still required for human survival even in the cold weather. White People mass migrated first into Eastern , then Northern Europe, displacing many indigenous Black Europeans. Southern Europeans were the last to be displaced by White People, and it still shows in their features. 1 Like |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by Nobody: 5:31pm On Jul 03, 2017 |
jantavanta:Look man, I'm telling what had truly happened. Why didn't they left via Morocco when it's easier is another question. Do you think that they had the knowledge that crossing via northern Africans is easier than Horn of Africa? Humans originated in Ethiopia and some of them left for the other continents via Horn of Africa. Question - from where do you think Europeans migrated to eastern, northern and Southern Europe? I ask because you are indirectly saying that white ppl became white in none Europe places. I've read your comments on the early days of this topic and most of them doesn't make sense. You even went to recent phenomena of French Revolution that the ruling class were black. I agree that white ppl were mostly savages for the most part of human civilization and they stole the works of many Africans and others civilizations. They were nobody not long ago and now they are spreading their propaganda agenda that blacks are inferior. The truth needs to be told and I thank you at certain extent for trying to expose their looting and savage history. 1 Like |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 8:42pm On Jul 03, 2017 |
Hati13: For over 50,000 years, Black People had sailed as far as the Americas, and became the Aboriginal Native Americans. Christopher Columbus Discovery is a lie to claim that Black People could only trek on land and could not sail across the Atlantic Ocean. This white supremacist lie is entrenched as academic canon. The Pyramids of Mexico were built by the same people who built the Pyramids of Egypt; You and I. Question - from where do you think Europeans migrated to eastern, northern and Southern Europe? Yes, their last point of presence was in Central Asia. They are not far from it when they called themselves Cauc-Asians.
Please do not rush to understand. Our childhood learning has to be gradually unlearned. The entire Europe was ruled by Black Europeans, until 1700s when they intermaried with Whites beoming mulattos, and their descendants now have only black hair and black eyes; still no hereditary blue-eyed blondes! I agree that white ppl were mostly savages for the most part of human civilization and they stole the works of many Africans and others civilizations. They were nobody not long ago and now they are spreading their propaganda agenda that blacks are inferior. The truth needs to be told and I thank you at certain extent for trying to expose their looting and savage history. You are welcome the re-discovery of the Knowledge of Ourselves. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by itisco(m): 5:14pm On Jul 06, 2017 |
This is really interesting.OP, stress yourself no more for we shall know the truth when we meet our God. #Proudly Black #BlackIsAttitude #BlackIsLife!! 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by swegiedon(m): 11:52am On Jul 07, 2017 |
jantavanta:how do I begin this journey of self discovery as a black man 2 Likes |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 9:03am On Jul 10, 2017 |
swegiedon: There are many starting points. In the American Diaspora, some started by re-learning African History, written by Africans. Others connected to African Spiritualities, rejecting the White image of the Creator. My own starting point was Sat Guru Maharaj Ji. The power that White People have over Black People, is no longer in nuclear missiles, fighter aircraft, etc. It is in knowing Black People, more than Black People know about themselves and funding religion, electronic and print media (especially text books) to maintain an imaginary status quo of White Supremacy. It psychologically harms a Black Child in the Americas, to be taught a false history of an assumed White Europe and everything negative about Black History. At the same time it may be psychologically advantageous to a White Child, but in a negative manner that leads to #BlackLivesMatter 1 Like |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 9:30am On Jul 13, 2017 |
ABC TV 2016-2017 drama series Still Star-Crossed is written around Shakespeare's Romeo & Juliet period. Starring Sterling Sulieman as the Italian Prince Escalus and Ebonée Noel as Livia Capulet. Hollywood casting is now reflecting the Black History of Europe. https://www.pinterest.com/gikit/native-europeans/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Still_Star-Crossed 1 Like |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by kikuyu1(m): 4:57pm On Jul 13, 2017 |
jantavanta: This is extremely significant! Remember Gods of Egypt with its white Egyptians? Is the MSM finally telling the truth? Too early to tell,but its a positive development. |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 9:15am On Jul 14, 2017 |
kikuyu1: The reaction to Gods of Egypt really jolted the MSM. Gone are the days of an Elizabeth Taylor acting Cleopatra, Queen of Egypt. At least, for now, the MSM realises that there is a market of a Black audience that now knows better. 1 Like |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 11:57am On Aug 23, 2017 |
White Irish Slaves The rulers of Europe, being Black People, evokes questions about the motive for slave trade. School curriculum teach that Slave Trade was an action by White People of Europe enslaving Black people of Africa [who had been sold and waiting to be picked off]. But there is an aspect of Slave Trade that has been ignored: White Irish Slaves. [img]https://radio2hot.files./2013/12/white-slave65a.jpg[/img] [img]https://radio2hot.files./2013/12/white-slave3.jpg[/img] "[/b]White and Black Slaves in the Sugar Plantations of Barbados. None of the Irish victims ever made it back to their homeland to describe their ordeal. These are the lost slaves; the ones that time and biased history books conveniently forgot. The first slaves imported into the American colonies were 100 White children. They arrived during Easter, 1619, four months before the arrival of a the first shipment of Black slaves.Mainstream histories refer to these laborers as indentured servants, not slaves, because many agreed to work for a set period of time in exchange for land and rights.[b]" https://radio2hot./2013/12/31/the-irish-slaveswhat-they-will-never-ever-tell-you-in-history-class-or-anywhere-else-white-and-black-slave/ Africans were selected into slavery, not purely out of hatred for Africans, but for the desire of their superior human resource in the plantations of the Americas. Black Slaves were not just planters, but were inventors who made contributions to labour-saving inventions. At the beginning of the Transatlantic slave Trade, there was no concept of racial unity to prevent the undesirable Irish and even Scottish from being hurled into slavery. Even as far into 20th century White England there were house signs in England that read: "No accommodation for dogs & Irish". Racism or Tribalism? This lack of concept of racial unity meant that the Black Rulers of Europe could not identify with African Slaves as "our people": Black Europeans were Europeans, more especially as Africans had not been migrating into Europe since ancient times. Africans to the Black Rulers of Europe were simply "those Africans", available to be oppressed and to make a fortune out of their free labour! So, it is not impossible for Black People to have been the Rulers of Europe at the beginning of the transatlantic slave trade. References: NOTES) John P. Prendergast, The Cromwellian Settlement of Ireland, Dublin, ?, 1865(2) Ibid.(3) See, for example, Thomas Addis Emmet, Ireland Under English Rule, NY & London,Putnam, 1903(4) Prendergast, The Conwellian Settlment of Ireland(5) Richard Ligon, A True and Exact History of Barbadoes, London,Cass, 1657, reprinted 1976(6)Sean O’Callaghan, To Hell or Barbados: The Ethnic Cleansing of Ireland, (Dingle, Ireland: Brandon, 2001)(6) James F. Cavanaugh, Clan Chief Herald(7) For Mather’s account of the case, see Cotton Mather, Memorable Providences, Relating ToWitchcrafts And Possessions (1689) |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 10:32am On Sep 22, 2017 |
kikuyu1: I have found some info on Wikipedia about the India origin of the Gypsies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinti The Sinti (also Sinta or Sinte; masc. sing. Sinto; fem. sing. Sintesa) are a Romani people of Central Europe.[1] They were traditionally itinerant, but today only a small percentage of the group remains unsettled. In earlier times, they frequently lived on the outskirts of communities. The Sinti of Central Europe are closely related to the group known as Manouche in France. They speak the Sinti-Manouche variety of Romani, which exhibits strong German influence. "Sinti" may be derived from "Sindhi", the name of a people of the Sindh region in India as the original Gypsies whom all derive from India through a recent Estorian and Indian study [2], a notion popular among the Sinti themselves, although the vast majority of scholars and anthropologists have claimed that there is no known basis for the comparison.[3] The Sinti arrived in Germany and Austria in the Late Middle Ages along with Romani from India,[4] eventually splitting into two groups: Eftavagarja ("the Seven Caravans" and Estraxarja ("from Austria".[citation needed] They arrived in Germany before 1540.[5] The two groups expanded, the Eftavagarja into France, Portugal and Brazil, where they are called "Manouches", and the Estraxarja into Italy and Central Europe, mainly what are now Croatia, Slovenia, Hungary, Romania,[dubious – discuss] the Czech Republic and Slovakia, eventually adopting various regional names.[citation needed] In Italy they are present mainly in Piedmont region (where in Piedmontese they are called Sinto, although the word for Gypsies is sìngher, as the Italian zingaro), with some communities in Veneto and Emilia Romagna as well. 2 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/9719058/European-Roma-descended-from-Indian-untouchables-genetic-study-shows.html 1 Like |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 10:07pm On Nov 03, 2017 |
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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 10:29pm On Nov 03, 2017 |
Old Theory from White DNA Studies Haplogroup R1a is found today across a large swathe of Asia and Europe and may have originated in South or Central Asia. R1a is most common among Pakistanis, Northern Indians, Russians, Ukrainians and the Kyrgyz and Altai peoples of Central Asia. In Europe R1a is the most common group in Slavic peoples and is also very common in Scandinavia. The presence of R1a in the British Isles is in the main due to Norse Viking ancestry, although Anglo-Saxons and Danes will have carried a smaller proportion there and there is a rare English-specific subgroup. It has been hypothesised that haplogroup R1a was carried to Europe by the Kurgan culture (White people), who domesticated the horse. Then a Shocking Discovery In 2005 four multiple burials were discovered near Eulau, Germany. The 4,600-year-old graves contained groups of (Black) adults and children buried facing each other. Skeletal and artifactual evidence and the simultaneous interment of the individuals suggest the supposed families fell victim to a violent event. The Black Family as They Were Found Results of the DNA tests indicate that in the Nuclear family, the Father was Y-dna R1a, the Mother was MTdna - K As would be expected, finding Black people with the R1a gene has thrown White genetics into a tailspin. (It was long thought that haplogroup "R" was a White clade, introduced into Europe with the Kugan (White people) migrations from Central Asia which started at about 1,500 B.C.). Therefore a NEW theory was needed! The New Theory "Haplogroup R1a is common in many parts of Eurasia and is frequently discussed in human population genetics and genetic genealogy. One sub-clade (branch) of R1a, currently designated R1a1a, is much more common than the others in all major geographical regions. R1a1a, defined by the SNP mutation M17, is particularly common in a large region extending from South Asia and Southern Siberia to Central Europe and Scandinavia. Currently, the R1a family is defined most broadly by the SNP mutation M420. The recent discovery of M420 resulted in a reorganization of the known family tree of R1a, in particular establishing a new paragroup (designated R1a*) for lineages which are not in the R1a1 branch leading to R1a1a. R1a and R1a1a were once believed to have originated somewhere within Eurasia, thought to be in the area from Eastern Europe to South Asia. But the most recent studies indicate that South Asia is a more likely region of origin than Europe ." http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Etruria_the_Etruscans_celts.htm |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by aiir2303(m): 2:54pm On Nov 04, 2017 |
I remembered initially when I saw this thread I actually didn't believe a word of it though I became a little bit skeptical. Im a kind of a person who doesn't just dismiss things. Haven't forgotten about this I fell on some other materials online treating different topics I discovered that all we were taught were false and at best stories and white fantasies especially history. Going down different rabbit holes encountering evidences and proofs, I kinda understood what info this thread was passing across. Op, it would be quite difficult to actually convince most cause the damage has been done through the indoctrination camps (schools) forcing down our throats the white man's narrative on history. Well if you're a skeptic or skeptical bout what you know I'll advice you to look at history from the available evidence (s) around, and avoid the mainstream channel of information. Pls visit this site and you'll see history and the world differently http://realhistoryww.com I'm also glad I can see some peeps actually waking up 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 6:55am On Nov 05, 2017 |
aiir2303: The greatest weapon of colonisation was The School; from Kindergarten to University. 2 Likes |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by aiir2303(m): 12:09am On Nov 06, 2017 |
jantavanta:True... There no better weapon. It's so bad that I was discussing with some of my family members about certain topics relating to this. I'm still amazed by the strong beliefs held by our people who see white people as super humans while denigrating the black skin and the black man. Also ignorantly stating that the colored man contributed nothing to civilization. The damage the white man has done is beyond repair. 3 Likes |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 2:43pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
https://books.google.com.ng/books?id=IkfnUt-iIwoC&lpg=PA97&ots=VMlQQLCXjv&dq=A%20genteel%20black%20man%20in%20a%20Armenian%20coat.'%20(&pg=PA97#v=onepage&q=A%20genteel%20black%20man%20in%20a%20Armenian%20coat.'%20(&f=false Jean Jacques Rousseau is known by European Philosophy students as one of the founding Fathers of the French Revolution. He was described as: "A genteel Black Man in the dress of an Armenian." "The philosopher JJRousseau, one of the 'Fathers of the French Revolution' (1789-1795) was subsidized and published by the Surinamese Pierre-Alexander Du Peyrou (1729-1794); with proceeds from Surinamese slavery. This very rich, absent planter and writer in Switzerland, was described by Rousseau as "dark brown." (Basané) James Boswell(1740-1795), a grandson of a sister of Cornelis van Sommelsdijck, called himself 'black' and wrote about Rousseau: 'A genteel black man in a Armenian coat.' (1772) (Heinemann 1952)" http://bluebloodisblackblood..com.ng/2011/05/maria-susanna-du-plessis-dader-of.html?m=1 |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by ricki: 7:35am On Dec 28, 2017 |
You guys should have destroy these white devil by using the bible.......it is very plan and well described there. the bible is the history of the original man (so called black man) I can lend a hand in that department. Every black-man everywhere on earth produced albino which the bible described as the tormentor; the devil, the destroyer; the beast of Revelation; the son of perdition... most albinism is as a result of sin of the originally man hence the punishment i.e esau - edom. esau was a blackman but covered with red hair and it was through him that evil (white man) entered the world. The Indians - aryans (spanning over wide territories including Iran & Afghanistan ) produces the white man that's common today but edom-esua produce the mindset (devilish roman vatican cult) and all of them came together (joined the edomite - descendants of esau) for the purpose they were created for DESTRUCTION and TORMENT. to be continued with bible verses......will be very interesting ponder on this for the moment Ezekiel 1:13 |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by kikuyu1(m): 5:12pm On Dec 29, 2017 |
Btw,heard all the noise about Princess Micheal's brooch she wore she wore to a Queen's lunch in honour of future Harry's wife ,Meghan Markle? Princess Michael of Kent has apologised after coming under fire for wearing a ‘blackamoor’ brooch to the Queen’s Christmas lunch at Buckingham Palace, attended by Prince Harry’s mixed race fiancée Meghan Markle.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5204907/Princess-Michael-Kent-wears-racist-Blackamoor-brooch.html Observe the closeup-see the gold crown and luxurious clothes. After reading this thread do you really think it represents a slave? Imo,the Royals are showing they KNOW real history and the identity of their forebears.
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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 10:30am On Jan 01, 2018 |
kikuyu1: I am surprised that she had to apologize for wearing it. The Royals know real history. Here is another one in Shirley Bassey's bedroom. Accomplished Singer, Shirley Bassey, has a Nigerian 'Calabar' father and Welsh mother. She is the only singer to have sung the theme songs for three James Bond movies. The 'Calabar' accent is evident in her voice. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5204907/Princess-Michael-Kent-wears-racist-Blackamoor-brooch.html 1 Like |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 3:37pm On Jan 09, 2018 |
Pages from the Memoirs of the Secret Services of John Macky, Esq. 1733 These are descriptions of British Ambassadors, Top military officers and aristocrats as either black or brown-skinned during the Reign of King William, Queen Anne, and King George I. Here are a few of the British envoys to other countries including Mr Stanhope, Ambassador to the Dutch Provinces, Mr Methuen, Ambassador to the King of Portugal, 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 10:41am On Jan 12, 2018 |
More members of the British Aristocracy who were Black People before their cover-up, prior to the colonization of Africa. Charles, Duke of Somerset; John, Duke of Buckinghamshire; Charles, Duke of St. Albans https://www.pinterest.com/gikit/native-europeans/black-britain/ If you browse for their paintings on the internet, you will see the fake whitened paintings. 1 Like |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 6:08am On Jan 14, 2018 |
Ayo Family Crest The ancient coat of arms of all European countries have Black People. https://heraldicjewelry.com/pages/ayo-family-crest
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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 6:19am On Jan 14, 2018 |
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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 1:57pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
Coat of Arms of Waregem, Belgium http://www.taneter.org/moorsheads.html Waregem municipality located in the Belgian province of West Flanders. Black Men and Black Women feature in European Coat of Arms, because Black People were the First People to live in Europe. Currently, Africans travel to Europe through Libya. Africans have done it for over 45,000 years through the northern tip of Morocco which is just 10 km from Southern Spain. http://www.businessinsider.com/chefchaouen-in-morocco-is-painted-blue-2016-8
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Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 3:58pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
First Britons Had Black Skin, Dark Curly Hair - Science/Technology - Nairaland The first modern Briton had dark skin and blue eyes, London scientists said on Wednesday, following groundbreaking DNA analysis of the remains of a man who lived 10,000 years ago. https://www.nairaland.com/4334657/first-britons-black-skin-dark#64922823 1 Like |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by jantavanta(m): 10:04am On Mar 23, 2018 |
https://www.nairaland.com/4413580/foreign-office-appoints-nnenne-iwuji-eme https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/22/first-black-female-high-commissioner-appointed-by-foreign-office-nnenne-iwuji-eme Foreign Service appointments are now reflecting the Black History of Europe jantavanta: |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by rabzy: 7:47am On Mar 27, 2018 |
This thread reeks of lies and disinformation and totally bereft of logic. |
Re: Black African Nobility Of Ancient Europe by kikuyu1(m): 1:38pm On Mar 30, 2018 |
rabzy: What don't you get,nigga?! The links,pics and sources c an be understood by an eight year old-exactly WTF is your major malfunction? 1 Like |
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