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Christianity began wen Christ died not wen he was around. Christ did not tell his apostle to collect Tithes but rather tell them to give and feed his sheep and take care of his lambs. john21:15-17.

I can still say collection of tithes is not a wrong idea since we so called Christians are using or making references to the old testaments. What is making the collection of tithes so wrong is that, Most of our popular churches collect Tithes by force. God ordered it in the old testament, so no man should forcefully ask anyone to bring it. It should b between the person and God. Anyone who forcefully ask for tithes is a thief and a mouth robber in the house of God. And wen d tithes are collected the so called preacher if obedient to his master should remember the word of Jesus to peter(apostles) "feed and take care of my sheep.

9japrof:
Tithing is corruption in the church, tithing has ceased to exist, from the inception of Christianity, it has ceased


Tithing in the past was given to the levites tribe who never recieved landed inheritance among the twelve tribes of isreal. So Jehovah made provisions that they feed from every one tenth that was presented by the other tribes of Israel. They were priests by calling,(hereditary) and they never had any other job excepting helping in offering sacrifices on behalf of other Israelites in the temple.

What do we have now? Rouges in church robes, from the advent of Christianity, tithing ceased because the Hebrew nation(Judaism) lost God's favour and their worship no longer accepted, that is why today Christians no longer need to do animal sacrifices to appease God, so since no animal sacrifices, do you need the priest for the sacrifices?

Check out the Christian Greek Scriptures(New Testerment) there were no indications that tithing arrangement continued after the prior, during or after the death of Jesus Christ. Contributions were only made to take care of needs of the congregation or during a disaster. There were no indications that the apostles of those times profited from the gospel, Peter continued in his fishing business, Paul after dumping his law profession learnt tent making to support himself materially and so were many disciples. They never collected tithes or contributions from their congregation for their personal use or consumption

Let's assum Paul who was a missionary back then was like the stupid greedy money conscious rouge pastors of today, he would have lorded it over the congregation back then to contribute and buy him a luxury ship, he can always use to sail for his missionary journeys, but no he boarded merchant ships even under the harshest of weather and boarding conditions and there were no indications whatsoever that the congratulations paid for those trips.

All pastors who collect tithes and convert to personal gains are rogues, criminals any name you deserve to give them. What they practice is corrupt form of Christianity
During Bible times, people whom God used for miracles never collected "kickbacks" for doing such miracles, neither did they profit from their spiritual work. Gehazi one of of Elishas servants who collected a gift gifted by Naaman that was rejected by Elisha previously was struck with leprosy. If Jesus Christ, his disciples and apostles of Bible times rejected gifts and self enrichment from the gospel, who the hell are these rogues to do otherwise.

Church contributions should be for maintenance of facilities and for disaster relieve and not into some useless pastors pockets for consumption. This confirms that their powers for operation are not even from God because when God gifts You a gift, maybe healing, prophesy etc and you misuse it, he takes back that power from you, but we see pastors all over the world eating fat while deceiving the congregation with false teachings of tithing. Pastorism now is a profession, where one goes for a course like it's tertiary education, qualifies opens a church while being lazy and the congregation keeps feeding him fat from their poor donations.

SIf Jesus were to visit physically churches of today, what will be his reaction today? When he sees the commercialism that goes in the church today, where all sorts of financial and economic messages are passed in the church while diluting the message about the kingdom of God and salvation( MMM was actively preached in the church by many pastors, Google the pictures are there in the internet). If Jesus was to be physically present in the church, what would be his reaction when he sees that different sections of church are being called out to carry their monetary donations in their hands and come out to recieve prayers according to the amounts one contributes( different prayer for 10 million, 5 million, 1 million, 10,000 and 100 naira donors).
What would be Jesus reaction to find out that PoS machines are now being pass round the church to ensure that you must drop money, even if you claim that you don't have physical cash, no wonder quite a number of people save themselves the embarrassment of going to church if they are broke.
Lemme tell you what Jesus would have done if he were physically present in any church and see the commercialism in the church, he would still do the same thing he did in the temple back then when he overturned the table of money exchangers, and claimed that the house of his father was for worship, while they have converted it as a den of robbers. What is now been done in churches are even worse now.

Now is time to take a step, a commercial church can never be from God, if it were, God would have taken back his power and support from them. Miracles that commercial churches do can never be from God, else when they recieve "kickbacks" for the healings they do, God would have withdrawn that ability to heal from them, meaning these churches that collect kickbacks and still continue healing collect their powers from a different source.

Now is the time to sit at home, do an honest research of the scriptures, do an honest and fervent prayer to God that you want to know the truth and serve him in a way and manner HE wants. He will surely answer your prayers

Thanks you. You have said it all. People claim they worship God but don't read His word. How can you then know Him when you don't read the Bible. That's why the churches are able to manipulate them with some extract of the Bible. Read so you don't perish. I used to pay my tithe but I stopped when I read it's meant for the Levites. The Levites are the only tribe that did not get a share of the promised land but God compensate them through the tithe and offering that comes from the other eleven tribes. My people perish because of lack of knowledge because they are lazy to read and follow God's word.

I can still spirit of money on nairaland, when it comes to money and tithe, everyone is now a bible scholar,
What of
yahoo,
fornication,
clubbing,
masturbation,
cultism,
drugs,
hemp,
stealing,
kickbacks in the office.
porn
circular music
You forgot the most important thing and are talking about tithes.
lets be all deceiving ourselves, tithe or no tithe , do the right thing.
leave pastors to God.When God called them he didn't consult you
if a pastor commit fornication God most times reveals it, if tithes is asin allow God to reveal to those who are still paying.

For those who said Christ never condemned tithe....of course Jesus never condemned the tithe as practised in the law of moses(not the one concocted by most of our pastors and ministers) simply because he was simply UNDER THE LAW....Jesus even went to the temple and carried out most of the Jewish customs as contained in the law of moses!!



I have a question what was the reason behind the death and resurrection of Christ?

If U believe the law of moses is still relevant to Christians,why are Christians not offering goat sacrifices or burning incense?

Or are there laws some Christians choose to obey and some we choose to disobey?

If tithe and other laws of Moses could make a believer blessed,then Christ death was in vain!!

Jsaviour:
Unto hustling things, it's now a must in churches. My pastor even said if you don't pay tithe you will go to hell as gatekeeper of hell he is. I quietly left the church. They won't even dedicate your baby if you dont pay tithe, God's blessings are now for sale. These men are hustlers simple.

that church na alarm don blow church

Op, I knew you would be insulted for this great and true words of the Lord. Thanks for sharing anyway. He who has an ear let him hear

Achorise:
I can still spirit of money on nairaland, when it comes to money and tithe, everyone is now a bible scholar,
What of
yahoo,fornication,clubbing,masturbation,cultism, drugs, hemp,stealing,kickbacks in the office,porn
circular music
You forgot the most important thing and are talking about tithes.
lets be all deceiving ourselves, tithe or no tithe , do the right thing.
leave pastors to God.When God called them he didn't consult you
if a pastor commit fornication God most times reveals it, if tithes is asin allow God to reveal to those who are still paying.

@bolded.... Help me ask them... Their excuse would be "everybody has fallen short of the glory of God"... But they won't remember " shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?? God forbid ".... But when it comes to paying their tithes, they'll quote a bible chapter they've twisted to suit themselves... Forgetting that when the devil tempted Jesus he also twisted the word of God to suit him to try and manipulate Jesus but he(the devil) failed.... Freeze is letting the devil use him and some weak Christians are seeing some "sense" in what the confused freeze is saying... Pay your tithe or not, it won't stop the Gospel from growing.... I will always pay my tithe... If you like don't pay your tithe... You think you are doing the pastor?? You are doing yourself

Me I no say make pastors no collect tithes oh. But make sure you also collect animals for burnt offerings too. Cause you can’t tell me it’s only tithe that is relevant in Law of Moses and others are not.

Jsaviour:
Why didn't he and his disciples pay tithe?. Show me that one in the bible. .

And where did the Bible say he didn’t pay tithe , kindly show me

johnbull2017:
Me I no say make pastors no collect tithes oh. But make sure you also collect animals for burnt offerings too. Cause you can’t tell me it’s only tithe that is relevant in Law of Moses and others are not.

burnt offering were sin offerings . A shadow of christ . Christ has been made sin . We still do give offerings but not sin offering . Tithe was never a shadow . It’s a principle . Just like prayer and fasting

openmine:
For those who said Christ never condemned tithe....of course Jesus never condemned the tithe as practised in the law of moses(not the one concocted by most of our pastors and ministers) simply because he was simply UNDER THE LAW....Jesus even went to the temple and carried out most of the Jewish customs as contained in the law of moses!!



I have a question what was the reason behind the death and resurrection of Christ?

Reconciliation

If U believe the law of moses is still relevant to Christians,why are Christians not offering goat sacrifices or burning incense?

No one is talking about the law of Moses . We are talking about tithe . Tithe did not originate under the law of Moses .

The fact that it’s contained in the obsolete law does not negate its potency . There are other things contained in the law that Christians practice . Such as prayer, almsgiving, Justice , morality , Thanksgiving and honoring your father And mother . The law is a reference to many kingdom principles .

loswhite:
are we still under the law? If no when did we stop? If you are sincere you will see that this is a rebuke not commendation but then he added that part because they where still under the law

Tithe was on before the law ever came

Jesusgirl92:
@bolded.... Help me ask them... Their excuse would be "everybody has fallen short of the glory of God"... But they won't remember " shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?? God forbid ".... But when it comes to paying their tithes, they'll quote a bible chapter they've twisted to suit themselves... Forgetting that when the devil tempted Jesus he also twisted the word of God to suit him to try and manipulate Jesus but he(the devil) failed.... Freeze is letting the devil use him and some weak Christians are seeing some "sense" in what the confused freeze is saying... Pay your tithe or not, it won't stop the Gospel from growing.... I will always pay my tithe.

I paid today, and I will pay again, and I will try to live holy to please God.
look for a good scripture to advise people to live right not tithe this and tithe that.

nice comments@naija prof. It's good to know that there are people who still read and understand the scriptures. I agree with almost all u said, except this; and i quote
"This confirms that their powers for operation
are not even from God because when God gifts You a gift, maybe healing, prophesy etc and you
misuse it, he takes back that power from you"
i want to disaggree with this assertion. When God gifts u a gift, it is yours and he won't take it away from you, no matter how u misuse it. Some scriptural examples are sampson, ballam, or even lucifer. All retained their powers even though what they were doing at some point in their lives wasn't God's will for them. Remember, romans 11:29 which says that the gift and the callings of God are without repentance(irrevocable). Which makes sense, considering what was said in the book of revelations "that many will say they did miracles and wonders in his(Jesus') name but he will tell them he doen't know them. These people were probably telling the truth, for they must have known that God is all knowing, and wont be trying to lie to his face. but he said he doesn't know them for even though they still had they gift of miracle and signs he gave them when they served him, he didn't take it away when they turned to evil doing( they must have been confused by this too, thinking if they can still perform miracles they must still be pleasing to God. how wrong they were). So a man can heal u with God's power even after commiting iniquity, just don't mistake God's gift and blessings for righteousness.

OtemSapien:
I don't do beliefs, rather I do knowing. Bible belief is not the truth of reality, it's just one of the delusions of this mysterious world.

Well, that's fine, although there is a discussion to be had about "doing knowing" when we're up for some epistemology. Op was addressing his post to Bible believers, though. That's why I thought you were responding from that premise.

petra1:
Reconciliation



No one is talking about the law of Moses . We are talking about tithe . Tithe did not originate under the law of Moses .

The fact that it’s contained in the obsolete law does not negate its potency . There are other things contained in the law that Christians practice . Such as prayer, almsgiving, Justice , morality , Thanksgiving and honoring your father And mother . The law is a reference to many kingdom principles .

God bless you richly in Jesus name. Amen.

petra1:
Reconciliation



No one is talking about the law of Moses . We are talking about tithe . Tithe did not originate under the law of Moses .

The fact that it’s contained in the obsolete law does not negate its potency . There are other things contained in the law that Christians practice . Such as prayer, almsgiving, Justice , morality , Thanksgiving and honoring your father And mother . The law is a reference to many kingdom principles .

Mr petra1,U have come again with ur concocted and so called fallacies called spiritual principle which U have labelled as spiritual tithe....lol

I have pleaded several times with U to offer scriptures to such baseless and direction-less assumptions,Unfortunately, U have been unable to prove ur assertions using scriptures instead of using manipulation or evasion or gimmicks!!

Let me ask U....the Malachi 3:10-12 which U indirectly hold on to as basis for believers to tithe,where was it coined from?
Was it from the pre-law tithe or the mosaic law....

Tithe is a requirement to the people of Israel as clearly contained in the law of moses with its platform,structures and commandments boldly written in the laws of moses (Reference Leviticus 27:30;Deutronomy 14:22-29;Nehemiah 10;Numbers 18:20)

If U have any scriptures to prove that tithing is pre-law,please do so with scriptures showing its structures and ordinances...It was boldly and clearly written when Abraham and his families were commanded by God to do "burnt offerings and circumcision ".....Why was there no commandment laid down for Abraham about tithe since U claim its was before the law?

Please Petra1,for the 100th or so time,please open bible and show me and others where tithe was commanded by God to Abraham before he met king Melchizedek! No evasion or gimmicks.... Just prove it with scriptures!

And while U are at it please I would like to know how pastors and ministers of the Gospel miraculously started receiving tithes using Ur spiritual principle and ur over laboured pre-law tithe as a yardstick!
And please Do so with scriptures before the law of moses.... Thank U!

adebisiseun2:
http://victorynetwork.org/BibleTithe.html

Selective reading and application. You should have been patient enough to Read Mathew 23: 23-39, you would have realised that so called pastors of today have turned Christianity to commercialism. 2 types of tithing was stated there, an annual tithe and once in every third year and none of them were given only to the Levites.

Try read your Bible more especially new testaments. Do an objective research and write another post with a possible heading of " 10 reasons why you shouldn't pay tithe but give voluntary contributions. 2 cor 9:6-7.

johnel2real:
nice comments@naija prof. It's good to know that there are people who still read and understand the scriptures. I agree with almost all u said, except this; and i quote
"This confirms that their powers for operation
are not even from God because when God gifts You a gift, maybe healing, prophesy etc and you
misuse it, he takes back that power from you"
i want to disaggree with this assertion. When God gifts u a gift, it is yours and he won't take it away from you, no matter how u misuse it. Some scriptural examples are sampson, ballam, or even lucifer. All retained their powers even though what they were doing at some point in their lives wasn't God's will for them. Remember, romans 11:29 which says that the gift and the callings of God are without repentance(irrevocable). Which makes sense, considering what was said in the book of revelations "that many will say they did miracles and wonders in his(Jesus') name but he will tell them he doen't know them. These people were probably telling the truth, for they must have known that God is all knowing, and wont be trying to lie to his face. but he said he doesn't know them for even though they still had they gift of miracle and signs he gave them when they served him, he didn't take it away when they turned to evil doing( they must have been confused by this too, thinking if they can still perform miracles they must still be pleasing to God. how wrong they were). So a man can heal u with God's power even after commiting iniquity, just don't mistake God's gift and blessings for righteousness.

I pray for more wisdom for you in Jesus name. Amen... Thanks for sharing the word with us.

petra1:
Reconciliation



No one is talking about the law of Moses . We are talking about tithe . Tithe did not originate under the law of Moses .

The fact that it’s contained in the obsolete law does not negate its potency . There are other things contained in the law that Christians practice . Such as prayer, almsgiving, Justice , morality , Thanksgiving and honoring your father And mother . The law is a reference to many kingdom principles .

Then let's do the tithing the way it was done then. Annually and once every three years. And let's all come together to eat the tenth of our produce and give the once every third year tithe to the fatherless, widows foreigners and Levites. Mathew 23:23-39.

petra1:
burnt offering were sin offerings . A shadow of christ . Christ has been made sin . We still do give offerings but not sin offering . Tithe was never a shadow It’s a principle . Just like prayer and fasting

Do U have scriptures to prove that tithe was never a shadow?

Please let's Use scriptures to argue our points instead of what U heard pastors or ministers of the gospel say....Let the scriptures be our guide and authority rather than resorting to endless manipulation or evasive tactics....

If U know that the "law of tithe" existed before the law of moses,then find that law and its ordinances,and apply it into Ur every day lives....

....Don't tell me that tithe existed before the law of moses and yet seek to prove tithe payment using Malachi 3:10-12 which also speaks about the "mosaic law tithe" and not the so called concocted lie called "prelaw tithe"....

And lets be honest....Can we just ask our pastors or ministers where it is written in the scriptures that pastors and minsters are now the "levites of this present day?"

Is there a scripture That states clearly that pastors or ministers are the ones commanded like the "levites" and priests to receive tithes from believers?

Please Ask questions my fellow believers who indulge in tithe payments or preaching or receive a doctrine that has no scripture inclination!!

petra1:
Tithe was on before the law ever came

I knw you will tell me abt Abraham...what did Abraham tithe?

This tithe thing don pain them oh. Chei daddy freeze oh...

Reno Omokri wrote:

The recent todo on the issue of tithing which was sparked up by popular On Air Personality, Daddy Freeze, is actually a sad reflection of the state of Christianity in Nigeria specifically and the Black world in general.
Why? Because it proves that it is still true that if you want to hide anything from a Black man all you need to do is to put it in a book!
If all those who have opined about this matter had cared to read about what The Holy Bible says about tithing, I am convinced that it would not have led to as big a controversy as it is today.
So many people have spoken for and against tithing and the thing that bothers me most about their interventions is that it references their pastor, a certain sermon, their opinion or something they have heard.
As a matter of fact, somebody commented that if only I read a certain book by David Yongi Cho, I would know that he (the commenter) was right in his opinion on tithing.
On the issue of tithing as well as on any other ecclesiastical issue, there is only one reference point and that is The Bible.
2nd Timothy 3:16 says:
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for DOCTRINE, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (KJV)
This pretty much covers it. Any controversy about tithing must be settled by The Bible.
The truth is that tithing as presently practiced by many churches, especially the so called Pentecostal or Evangelical churches, is unscriptural.
Take away tithing and the attraction and motivation to be the founder and president of an ‘international ministry’ would disappear.
The Bible actually warned us of such times as this in 1 Timothy 6:5-6.
Constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain. But godliness with contentment is great gain. (NIV)
The truth is that tithing is an age old AGRICULTURAL practice that predated even Abraham and Moses. Ancient communities, including African communities, set aside a certain potion of their harvest (usually a tenth) and sacrificed it to their gods through his priests.
Now the tithing that Moses taught about was instituted by the living God because the Levitical priests were not given a portion of the land of Canaan as an inheritance and as a result they were to be supported by their fellow brethren.
Numbers 18:20-21 says:
The Lord said to Aaron, “You will have no inheritance in their land, nor will you have any share among them; I am your share and your inheritance among the Israelites.“ I give to the Levites all the tithes in Israel as their inheritance in return for the work they do while serving at the tent of meeting. (NIV)
From the above it is clear that the tithes were specifically gifted by God to the Levites.
You will never find anywhere in Scripture were God, His Son Jesus or the early apostles and disciples asked the New Testament church to pay tithes to pastors.
Pastors do not replace Levites. In the New Testament, pastors worked and earned a living. They were not dependent on the church and the following verse proves it.
I have not coveted anyone’s silver or gold or clothing. You yourselves know that these hands of mine have supplied my own needs and the needs of my companions. In everything I did, I showed you that by this kind of hard work we must help the weak, remembering the words the Lord Jesus himself said: ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.”-Acts 20:33-35. (NIV).
The above was a farewell message from Paul who had pastored a church in Ephesus. I have been to Ephesus. I have been to the market where Paul had his tent making business.
Neither Jesus, nor Paul nor any of the fathers of the early church collected any tithes from their congregation because they were not Levites who were prevented from doing any type of work other than temple service.
Rather than tithing, the book of Acts teaches us in Acts 2:44-45 that the early Christians lived a communal life and shared EVERYTHING they had.
All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need.
Too often, pastors try to manipulate their congregation by quoting Malachi 3:8-10
“Will a mere mortal rob God? Yet you rob me. “But you ask, ‘How are we robbing you?’ “In tithes and offerings. You are under a curse—your whole NATION—because you are robbing me. Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the Lord Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it. (NIV)
I want my readers to note the words ‘NATION’ in the Scripture above. Scripture must be used to unlock Scripture.
The above Scripture was directed to the NATION of Israel. This is clear from Malachi 3:6
“I the LORD do not change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed” (NIV)
The reason God said the Israelites were robbing Him is because, as I have proved above with Scripture, on their way to the promised land, God made a deal with them that He would not give the Levites a share of the land of Canaan so that they could focus on Him and the work of the Temple.
In return the rest of the Israelites were to give God the tithes of their agricultural produce from the land He gave them and God in turn gave His tithes to the Levitical priesthood.
It is funny that pastors who insist that Malachi’s verses on tithing must apply to them do not insist that other Old Testament provisions should also apply to them.
Deuteronomy 21:18-21 commanded the ancient Israelites to stone their stubborn children to death. Are tithe receiving pastors then prepared to stone their own stubborn children to death because of that Biblical verse?
Quoting an Old Testament verse to justify a New Testament life may appear hypocritical especially as Jesus, who is the author and finisher of our faith and His early disciples did not preach about tithing. Jesus talked about tithing only in passing while condemning the Pharisees. Pay your tithe if your conscience allows it, but don’t use Malachi to justify it.
In the final analysis, I am not saying pay or don’t pay tithes. I am just presenting the facts as an ordained pastor.
In fact, when the Pharisees insisted that the first Gentile converts to Christianity must be circumcised and keep the Mosaic Law, including tithing, the Council in Jerusalem overruled them and in Acts 15:19-20 gave only four commandments to the new Gentile believers and tithing was NOT one of those commandments.
Jesus mentioned tithe once (in passing when admonishing the Pharisees) but He preached salvation over 100 times.
Let our message in the church focus on Salvation not tithe! Abraham tithed. But He did not tithe to be blessed or that the devourer would be rebuked.
In fact, the tithing that Abraham tithes was completely different from the tithing God commanded the Israelites to do.
Abraham tithed from the goods he reclaimed from the kings he fought against. He did not tithe agricultural goods.
Are those pastors who insist on collecting monetary tithes aware that money existed during the times of the ancient Israelites, yet God never told them to pay monetary tithes. He only requested for AGRICULTURAL tithes so the Levites who had no farms could eat.
As a matter of fact, God told those Israelites who lived far away from the Temple not to even bother paying their agricultural tithes but to convert it to money and spend it on themselves.
We see this in Deuteronomy 14:24-27:
But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away), then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose.
Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice. And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own.
Yes, Abraham tithed from his military victory but it does not mean that you must also tithe. Abraham had concubines. By the same logic, you should also have concubines.
The point I am trying to make is that the faith of Abraham culminates in Christ and under Christ, there is no compulsion to tithe. God has given each of us a conscience and His Spirit. If you are led to tithe then tithe. If you are not, then don’t.
But let him that tithes not look down on him that does not tithe and let him who does not tithe not hold those who do in contempt. Your salvation is dependent on your faith in Christ Jesus and not whether or not you tithe. You can make heaven if you believe but don’t tithe but not if you tithe and don’t believe.
As a New Testament believer, what is required of you is a willing offering not a compulsory tithe. This is why 2 Corinthians 9:7 says:
Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
We ought to understand that the biblical practice of tithing had two origins. The first was from Abraham, the prophet and patriarch and the other is the Mosaic Law.
In Christ, both the tithing by the prophet and the law have been fulfilled hence in Matthew 5:17 Jesus said:
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.”
So because of Jesus’ death, burial and resurrection, we do not need the Levitical priesthood as go betweens us and God since Jesus is “The Way, The Truth, and The Life.” (John 14:6)
In the same way, we do not need Abraham’s blessings since God has blessed us “with every spiritual blessing in Christ.” (Ephesians 1:3).
As a matter of fact, Colossians 2:10 teaches us that ‘we are complete in Christ’.
So don’t let any pastor psyche you into believing that your worship of God is not complete until you have paid your tithe.
#Reno’s Nuggets
Many people stay friends with you as long as your success doesn’t surpass theirs. Once it does, you become their enemy. And do note that not everyone who loses an argument does so because they cant argue well. Sometimes it’s because they just want to keep a friend. Finally, those who have a Friend in Jesus have the Only Friend in high places they need. You cant get higher than Son of the Most High #RenosNuggets
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Written by Reno OmokrI

Please stop twisting scripture. The Lord Jesus did not command it to the Church

Achorise:
Please I want you to talk on holiness and righteousness, the dangers of clubbing, fornication, smoking, Yahoo, abortion, lets concentrate on this things than tithe

Open a thread on that, and u will receive my opinion. This topic is about tithe, so I cannot deviate

PHIPEX:
Reno Omokri wrote:

Did Reno say all these about tithing? My respect for him just soared....Lovely submissions!!
The scriptures indeed should be our guide!
No need for all these endless arguments and controversies....Let the scriptures be used as prove not some psychological manipulation and inscriptions....Worse part is that some "pastors" now call their "pre-law tithing" a spiritual principle...in other words,that spiritually principled tithe has no scriptural inclination!!

openmine:
Do U have scriptures to prove that tithe was never a shadow?

Show me scripture that proves it's a shadow

loswhite:
I knw you will tell me abt Abraham...what did Abraham tithe?

Tell us .

DeHiraeth:
Then let's do the tithing the way it was done then. Annually and once every three years. And let's all come together to eat the tenth of our produce and give the once every third year tithe to the fatherless, widows foreigners and Levites. Mathew 23:23-39.

The Jews have 3 kinds of tithes . The one given to God was on every every year because they were farmers . But the other tithes were just merely percentages . These were different from the main tithe .tithing is according to earnings. People who earn monthly salary tithes monthly . If you earn annually you can tithe annually . If you earn weekly you tithe weekly. Its an individual choice to give in cash or kind

openmine:
Mr petra1,U have come again with ur concocted and so called fallacies called spiritual principle which U have labelled as spiritual tithe....lol

I have pleaded several times with U to offer scriptures to such baseless and direction-less assumptions,Unfortunately, U have been unable to prove ur assertions using scriptures instead of using manipulation or evasion or gimmicks!!

Let me ask U....the Malachi 3:10-12 which U indirectly hold on to as basis for believers to tithe,where was it coined from?
Was it from the pre-law tithe or the mosaic law....

Tithe is a requirement to the people of Israel as clearly contained in the law of moses with its platform,structures and commandments boldly written in the laws of moses (Reference Leviticus 27:30;Deutronomy 14:22-29;Nehemiah 10;Numbers 18:20)

If U have any scriptures to prove that tithing is pre-law,please do so with scriptures showing its structures and ordinances...It was boldly and clearly written when Abraham and his families were commanded by God to do "burnt offerings and circumcision ".....Why was there no commandment laid down for Abraham about tithe since U claim its was before the law?

Please Petra1,for the 100th or so time,please open bible and show me and others where tithe was commanded by God to Abraham before he met king Melchizedek! No evasion or gimmicks.... Just prove it with scriptures!

And while U are at it please I would like to know how pastors and ministers of the Gospel miraculously started receiving tithes using Ur spiritual principle and ur over laboured pre-law tithe as a yardstick!
And please Do so with scriptures before the law of moses.... Thank U!

If you want to ask me question . Ask nicely . You can't be insultive and expect an answer. The Bible say not to respond to such people