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mamajaz:
Brotherly, your testimony is closer, Bellacious, same is yours...

amen oo. and urs too

Anatano:
Hi All, I have been a regular follower of this thread since I came across it through google. I have learnt quite a lot here from the myriad of questions and answers. I would also like to acknowledge lots of beautiful minds here – belong, mctowel, bnimz, spiroxy, mamajaz, zany to name but a few.
Though am still waiting patiently for my ITA, I thought of sharing my experience with English exams.

I started my journey early this year, and have written 3 IELTS exams. I was able to achieve at least 7 across all bands on the second attempt after which i evaluated my credentials with CPAA. But then I needed more points to stand a chance for ITA under ANZCO 221111, so I did the third IELTS on 9Sep17, but it didn't turn out as expected. I had L=8, R=7.5, W=7, S=7.5 so 20points seemed elusive.

However, before the outcome of my third IELTS i was skimming through previous posts on this thread when I came across the part where @bnimz mentioned getting 90 on all bands in PTE. It inspired me to be frank. At this point i had known about this thread for around a month, but I wasn't following with keen interest. I wish I was, perhaps I would've had the 20points much earlier.
So I did a little research online and finally decided to go for PTE on 19Sep17 as a backup plan, since it proffers a more objective alternative to attaining the 20points from language. As it turned out above, IELTS wasn't good. Though PTE wasn't either, but the result gave me hope. My first PTE on 19Sept17 came out as L=90, R=81, S=78, w=90. You can imagine how heart-rending this result was, just one point to hitting superior points. Infact, at a time I thought Pearson did it on purpose. But then I gave it another try on 27Sep17, score was L=90, R=72, S=70, W=90. Worse than the previous, you’d say, but I learnt an invaluable lesson from this. So, I put in for another one on 03Oct17 and result was L=90, R=89, S=90, W=90. Now I will tell you what I discovered in the speaking.

In my first attempt, I had just a few hesitations or pauses here and there during describe image and retell lecture. And I spoke continuously with some speed all through the test, cause of another candidate’s loud voice behind me. However, on the second attempt there was no hesitation, false start or any other form of error, but then the result was bad. Reason, I was trying to game the system. I spoke slowly in the read aloud, so my pronunciation was better, but then I spoke at a faster pace in other sections. Apparently, the system monitors your pace all through the speaking exam, and any change is taken for speech at an uneven pace which lowers your fluency scores. To achieve a high score in PTE speaking, aside from avoiding hesitations, repetitions, and false starts, you need to speak continuously and maintain the same pace across all the speaking sections. Another thing I did was, for describe image and retell lecture, I included at least a sentence as conclusion.

Do not be carried away by the read aloud speaking section of the PTE exam, you would get about 30secs to prepare, this should tell you something. The preparation time is to familiarize yourself with the text, so when it’s time to start reading, you have to be fast, not rushing through anyway, but then you have to be continuous so you can achieve that “assimilation and deletions appropriate to continuous speech” of PTE that is ascribed to native-like score under the pronunciation rubric. This can be clearly observed when you listen to newscasters on BBC or CNN. You would notice how fast they speak as they read from the teleprompter before them.

As for the retell lecture, my strategy was to listen attentively to the lecture (I did not write anything – my style). Focus was on the lecture. I was writing down keywords in my first and second attempt as advised by several blogs and videos I saw, but when I sat down to understand myself before the third attempt, I realized putting my focus on listening works best for me. After listening, I then spoke with the understanding of the topic. This enhanced my fluency as i was able to relate the talk as though I was telling a friend about a movie I saw.

For describe image, I employed e2language’s style of title, x-axis, a few points from the graph, chart or diagram and conclusion. Please see e2language videos on YouTube for this. Remember, always add a conclusion or implication to your response.

Repeat sentence is quite straight forward. Just try to develop your short term memory. In my opinion, please do not write down the sentence. Just focus on listening and repeat as you heard; same stress patterns and rhythm.

For answer short questions, please look up wenbo.tv, the site has a lot of practice questions. This part requires familiarity with the mode of responding. I guess most people do well in this section because they are probably things you come across every day.

I’ll stop here for now; this is already getting too long.
Here are a few sites that helped me during my preparation:

www.wenbo.tv/Practice-V3/home.html (has lots of practice materials)
www.coursera.org/learn/interview-preparation/lecture/fB5fE/using-phrasing
www.englishlistening.com

Thank you for all the points you have raised. I just had a disappointing outing with PTE LRSW 87,79,56,90. My first attempt though, but so very discouraging. I will try again soon and take your advice.

zanyzara:
Yesoooo.

......8hrs more

Zany.

2hrs...tick tock tick tock

I found this funny!

Anatano:
Hi All, I have been a regular follower of this thread since I came across it through google. I have learnt quite a lot here from the myriad of questions and answers. I would also like to acknowledge lots of beautiful minds here – belong, mctowel, bnimz, spiroxy, mamajaz, zany to name but a few.
Though am still waiting patiently for my ITA, I thought of sharing my experience with English exams.

I started my journey early this year, and have written 3 IELTS exams. I was able to achieve at least 7 across all bands on the second attempt after which i evaluated my credentials with CPAA. But then I needed more points to stand a chance for ITA under ANZCO 221111, so I did the third IELTS on 9Sep17, but it didn't turn out as expected. I had L=8, R=7.5, W=7, S=7.5 so 20points seemed elusive.

However, before the outcome of my third IELTS i was skimming through previous posts on this thread when I came across the part where @bnimz mentioned getting 90 on all bands in PTE. It inspired me to be frank. At this point i had known about this thread for around a month, but I wasn't following with keen interest. I wish I was, perhaps I would've had the 20points much earlier.
So I did a little research online and finally decided to go for PTE on 19Sep17 as a backup plan, since it proffers a more objective alternative to attaining the 20points from language. As it turned out above, IELTS wasn't good. Though PTE wasn't either, but the result gave me hope. My first PTE on 19Sept17 came out as L=90, R=81, S=78, w=90. You can imagine how heart-rending this result was, just one point to hitting superior points. Infact, at a time I thought Pearson did it on purpose. But then I gave it another try on 27Sep17, score was L=90, R=72, S=70, W=90. Worse than the previous, you’d say, but I learnt an invaluable lesson from this. So, I put in for another one on 03Oct17 and result was L=90, R=89, S=90, W=90. Now I will tell you what I discovered in the speaking.

In my first attempt, I had just a few hesitations or pauses here and there during describe image and retell lecture. And I spoke continuously with some speed all through the test, cause of another candidate’s loud voice behind me. However, on the second attempt there was no hesitation, false start or any other form of error, but then the result was bad. Reason, I was trying to game the system. I spoke slowly in the read aloud, so my pronunciation was better, but then I spoke at a faster pace in other sections. Apparently, the system monitors your pace all through the speaking exam, and any change is taken for speech at an uneven pace which lowers your fluency scores. To achieve a high score in PTE speaking, aside from avoiding hesitations, repetitions, and false starts, you need to speak continuously and maintain the same pace across all the speaking sections. Another thing I did was, for describe image and retell lecture, I included at least a sentence as conclusion.

Do not be carried away by the read aloud speaking section of the PTE exam, you would get about 30secs to prepare, this should tell you something. The preparation time is to familiarize yourself with the text, so when it’s time to start reading, you have to be fast, not rushing through anyway, but then you have to be continuous so you can achieve that “assimilation and deletions appropriate to continuous speech” of PTE that is ascribed to native-like score under the pronunciation rubric. This can be clearly observed when you listen to newscasters on BBC or CNN. You would notice how fast they speak as they read from the teleprompter before them.

As for the retell lecture, my strategy was to listen attentively to the lecture (I did not write anything – my style). Focus was on the lecture. I was writing down keywords in my first and second attempt as advised by several blogs and videos I saw, but when I sat down to understand myself before the third attempt, I realized putting my focus on listening works best for me. After listening, I then spoke with the understanding of the topic. This enhanced my fluency as i was able to relate the talk as though I was telling a friend about a movie I saw.

For describe image, I employed e2language’s style of title, x-axis, a few points from the graph, chart or diagram and conclusion. Please see e2language videos on YouTube for this. Remember, always add a conclusion or implication to your response.

Repeat sentence is quite straight forward. Just try to develop your short term memory. In my opinion, please do not write down the sentence. Just focus on listening and repeat as you heard; same stress patterns and rhythm.

For answer short questions, please look up wenbo.tv, the site has a lot of practice questions. This part requires familiarity with the mode of responding. I guess most people do well in this section because they are probably things you come across every day.

I’ll stop here for now; this is already getting too long.
Here are a few sites that helped me during my preparation:

www.wenbo.tv/Practice-V3/home.html (has lots of practice materials)
www.coursera.org/learn/interview-preparation/lecture/fB5fE/using-phrasing
www.englishlistening.com

nobody talks about the reading section oh...there are no tips for that part I suppose?

...............and that is how DIBP set all aussie threads ablaze with no 18th Oct update and no ITA yet ............

Alphadoor:
...............and that is how DIBP set all aussie threads ablaze with no 18th Oct update and no ITA yet ............

lol...calm down...it will come

Alphadoor:
...............and that is how DIBP set all aussie threads ablaze with no 18th Oct update and no ITA yet ............

You will be counted soon, bro.

Don't mind them. You're there already.

Goodday E-family,

Elders and Gurus in the house, please has any HR professional evaluated their work experience and credentials? Please how did you go about it.

babylove01:
Golden Email landed this morning.

I thank everyone on this thread for asking questions and special thanks to those that go out of their way to provide answers and reassurance.

Timeline

Job code : 312211 (Civil Engineering Draftperson )

EOI points : 60

EOI : June 2, 2017

ITA : June 6, 2017

Visa lodged : July 17,2017

CO contact : August 23 , 2017...Commencement email.

Visa Grant : September 15,2017

IED:June 12, 2018

CO team : Adelaide

Hello sir, I just sent a pm to connext with you on this civil draftperson assessment. I might be throwing a new assessment to Vetassess. I anticipate your reply

zanyzara:
Let's take the delay as a good sign of positive outcome as he shouldn't take him that long if he still wants to give you ET except he didn't get your new CDR before he went on "vacation"

Zany.

See don't mind that prince of persia that calls himself my assessor, after 21 days of no communication, I called they said he wasn't available, I sent mail he now replied with "Should you consider Drafting specialist outcome, please supply the relevant career episodes. Currently, the engineering technologist is the best outcome."

They just waisted precious time, time that could have been used to prepare the CDR,

Please anyone who assessed draft person with EA, furnish me with your CDR let me go through.

After all, the mumu keeps saying "being developed as an engineering associate" now he is asking for episode again. I thought he meant my episodes already depicts engineering associate levels, I don't just understand these people.

Cc: babylove01, darmoche.

Anatano:
However, before the outcome of my third IELTS i was skimming through previous posts on this thread when I came across the part where @bnimz mentioned getting 90 on all bands in PTE. It inspired me to be frank. At this point i had known about this thread for around a month, but I wasn't following with keen interest. I wish I was, perhaps I would've had the 20points much earlier.
So I did a little research online and finally decided to go for PTE on 19Sep17 as a backup plan, since it proffers a more objective alternative to attaining the 20points from language. As it turned out above, IELTS wasn't good. Though PTE wasn't either, but the result gave me hope. My first PTE on 19Sept17 came out as L=90, R=81, S=78, w=90. You can imagine how heart-rending this result was, just one point to hitting superior points. Infact, at a time I thought Pearson did it on purpose. But then I gave it another try on 27Sep17, score was L=90, R=72, S=70, W=90. Worse than the previous, you’d say, but I learnt an invaluable lesson from this. So, I put in for another one on 03Oct17 and result was L=90, R=89, S=90, W=90. Now I will tell you what I discovered in the speaking.

www.wenbo.tv/Practice-V3/home.html (has lots of practice materials)
www.coursera.org/learn/interview-preparation/lecture/fB5fE/using-phrasing
www.englishlistening.com

A big round of applause for another 90 bander... Common, you broke its back! I am giving you a singular standing ovation of 30seconds.

Well done brother! You are exceptional, did you take mock test(s). If you did, how may please? That speaking is so on point!

I came so close recently too SLRW - 76,81,84,88 (3rd attempt. That's after several mock tests, since its our work)

Azy123; Alphadoor see my guy

Alphadoor:
...............and that is how DIBP set all aussie threads ablaze with no 18th Oct update and no ITA yet ............

These people fit kill person ooo

Anatano:
I put in for another one on 03Oct17 and result was L=90, R=89, S=90, W=90.
www.wenbo.tv/Practice-V3/home.html (has lots of practice materials)
www.coursera.org/learn/interview-preparation/lecture/fB5fE/using-phrasing
www.englishlistening.com

What a tenacity. Thanks Bro

BTW, how much is vetassess' fee?

My people.

In other news, i got Immi assessment commence notification yesterday oh (visa lodged 22/09/2017)

I thought that was only meant for people claiming work experience so that the will start their background checks, me I am not claiming any work points.

I just pray that it wont be long any more before the golden mail lands in Jesus name

Abi anybody knows why else they will send the commence mail instead of direct grant once one has front loaded all documents?

babylove01:
Golden Email landed this morning.

I thank everyone on this thread for asking questions and special thanks to those that go out of their way to provide answers and reassurance.

Timeline

Job code : 312211 (Civil Engineering Draftperson )

EOI points : 60

EOI : June 2, 2017

ITA : June 6, 2017

Visa lodged : July 17,2017

CO contact : August 23 , 2017...Commencement email.

Visa Grant : September 15,2017

IED:June 12, 2018

CO team : Adelaide

Is this a 189 or190?

jayooh:
Hello sir, I just sent a pm to connext with you on this civil draftperson assessment. I might be throwing a new assessment to Vetassess. I anticipate your reply

Anything you need Bro.

stepo707

A 189

babylove01:
Anything you need Bro.

stepo707

A 189

Wow congrats bro.wonder why IT jobs are pegged at65 and 70 though

hello everyone, me and my family are planning to apply for 476 visa which is for 18 months, I want to know if it is easy to change to to another visa type (189, 190 or 489) before the 476 visa elapse. Thanks

Hi bornlegend, any lead on the work evidence for 489 on Tasmania?

mamajaz:
Brotherly, your testimony is closer, Bellacious, same is yours...

Amen oh.