Akin1212:


[b]Lol Chai...

See someone who doesn't know pinch about energy ranting on what energy can do. You just cannot understand the concept and it has started paining you.

Gullibly, you even went and brought links of Stephen Hawking talking about other universes, the Professor does not even give a fuck_ about your eternal creator, how is his work going to prove that there is a God? I have said it that you don't have a working brain.

Graycoder was able to testify that you don't have a working brain, he had to leave you to rot in your ignorance. Do you know how long it took that man to explain how sight works to you?

You will be countering facts that you know zilch about. You are a lost sheep, I swear. Does it make you cum to say the things you don't know?

Stephen Hawking said God does not exist, now as obtuse as you are you want to use his work to prove a spirit exists. Lol, you're a he-goat, sir.

How Energy formed the world is something you and your coming generations might not understand, except if you're lucky that you will have someone more intelligent than you in your generations who will discover these things. Else, hmm it's a pity.

You don't even know what constitutes consciousness, the link between biological molecules. Just give me one reason I should keep dragging matters with a novice and an ignoramus like you?

Please, don't come back. We have had enough of your obliviousness. Good day Mr low IQ.[/b]

OkaiCorne:


I am not surprised someone like you mistakes tantrum for intellect.

Do you want a Scientific Theist's work on the subject matter of the Parallel universe?

I used Stephen Hawking who is a renowned Scientific Atheist just like you will never be to prove a point on the planes of existence...

Please stop disgracing Science and Humanity with your thought process. I would have said you should live like Tarzan in the wild where your monkey mates are...but guess what? Your "intelligence" is an insult to monkeys...

Next tantrums please you are too easy to be "intelligent" and yet you admitted several times I am cunning

Take this as an advice from a friend: "Go back into the wild"

Akin1212:


Lol chai chai...

Are you touched by my jabs? Eyah. Sorry my obtuse friend, I can't help it.

Why are you translating intelligence for jabs? Are you more stupid than I thought? Hmmm.

I have tried in so many ways to pass some intellect to you, but you can't process it. I have realized now that it wasn't your fault. You just cannot go beyond your capacity. Your IQ IS INCREDIBLY LOW

Stop throwing weak jabs, it's like hitting me with foam. You cannot come up with intelligent discussion, you cannot even manage smart jabs. It's really a pity.

Here are some of Stephen Hawking the great atheist quotes, digest them.

“There is a fundamental difference between religion, which is based on authority, and science, which is based on observation and reason. Science will win because it works.”

“We are each free to believe what we want, and it’s my view that the simplest explanation is; there is no god. No one created our universe, and no one directs our fate.”

OkaiCorne:


After Quoting Stephen Hawking whom you disagree with on the parallel universe theory, pack your bags and go to the wild.
Stop disgracing yourself na

On the other hand, if you still have your balls intact, go and face the theists without any answer to the basic questions I have asked in this thread.

It is obvious Science does not even support your argument . PLEASE PROVE TO NAIRALAND HOW ENERGY CAN ACT ON ITS OWN TO CREATE CONSCIOUS AND INTELLIGENT LIFE Kindly check Google for answers if any pops up.

Gracias and AuRevoir

Akin1212:



Lol, see dumbness at its peak. I am still wondering why your IQ is this low.

I never disagreed with Stephen Hawking on the only true fact. God does not exist. I also agree with him that we have other universes, but they are not parallel to our universe. Please, I take your spirit creator beg you, let your dumb brain process this one o

And yes, I strongly disagree with him, and that's if he said we have "parallel universe". But again, I am sure Hawking didn't say that. He said something else but your low IQ cannot understand what the renowned scientist said.

For crying out loud parallel universe is a fiction. You need to learn, you really need to.

The link below said the Parallel universe is a hypothetical idea, an assumption, a possibility and not a fact. Is that too hard to understand?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_universe_(fiction)


Don't come and be crying here that they are insulting you because you are dumb

OkaiCorne:





Please check this link as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_universe#Philosophy

Oh well... oh well...I've played enough with you. Got more important things to do;

PLEASE PROVE TO NAIRALAND HOW UNCONSCIOUS ENERGY CREATED CONSCIOUS AND INTELLIGENT LIFE.

I hope I get a basic answer when I come back

Akin1212:


Lol, you keep shooting yourself in the foot. Every link you've dropped here has one way or the other showed how dumb you are. Here is the screenshot of your link.

They know fools like you will misunderstand multiverse as a parallel universe. I also know you have been thinking the multiverse is the same as a parallel universe. I already stated it that Stephen and I are on the same page when it comes to the multiverse, but on the parallel universe? No, because it doesn't exist in science.

They specifically omitted the term "parallel universe" from science and philosophy because there's nothing like that in those ideologies.

Parallel universe is fiction, it is art and not science nor philosophy. Your brain will never boot beyond its capacity, ever.

You should go and play with people with your kind of IQ. Just get the Bleep out of here, I'm done trying to convince a dumbass

OkaiCorne:


CAN YOU JUST GIVE ONE BASIC EXAMPLE OF UNCONSCIOUS ENERGY (ALONE) CREATING CONSCIOUS AND INTELLIGENT LIFE?

I am very sure you would have dropped a link if you really had the answer to this

Your insults do not carry any weight so please give a link to the bolded above

Akin1212:


Lol, I have pictorially dismissed your parallel universe claims, now you want me to lecture you on energy again.

I would, seriously, if you understand the basics of energy and science very well. Maybe you should go and look for more links and when you can't process whatever you read, come here I will help you. But for now, I am not going to tell you what you cannot understand nor process. You will just drag me through your dumbshits again.

[i]But let me give you a hint to ease your confusion, although you are not too intelligent, but thank energy for your existence.

And let Nairaland theists keep coming, I will keep thrashing them as I have thrashed you. Every claim you brought up has been thrashed mercilessly, either by your own link or my intelligence.

Besides, you have claimed that you are not a theist, I wonder why you are associating with the people of God now. Is it to save face?[/i]

Adieu.

OkaiCorne:


Can you conclude on Hypothesis? Everything in Science started as a Hypothesis...some with wrong conclusions which were later confirmed to be right over time.

I will rather let time be the judge...not your opinion.

Please answer the question ON HOW UNCONSCIOUS ENERGY (ALONE) CAN CREATE CONSCIOUS AND INTELLIGENT LIFE. If you do not answer this, it would be a question theists would haunt you with since you are the Energy expert.

Don't let your area of strength turn out to be your source of ridicule. Good luck with the Theists

Just to clarify I'm no theist nor atheist...I'm just a free soul with allegiance to the Eternal Creator alone...I don't wanna be camped with any school of thought.

Akin1212:


As usual, you have gone to browse again, keep browsing through what science invented and be saying it started as a hypothesis as if the hypothesis did not help your life. A result of your dumbness again.

Someone who is not a scientist telling us how science works. Lol, you think science is your eternal creator?

And How else will I tell a pile of dumbshit like you what energy can do since you can't realize it?

A free soul who has a God is not a theist? Lol, please go and browse since it's your forte and search for the meaning of theism. It seem your foolhardiness extends to that department too.

Whether you believe in the Bible, Koran, any other book or not. Once you believe in a God. You are a theist . learn that dumbass

OkaiCorne:


I am fully aware of the meaning of theism, I don't want to be called that ... hope it's not too difficult for you to comprehend.

Now that you have helped me remove the question you were hiding with. Kindly explain how unconscious energy is solely responsible for the creation of conscious and intelligent life.

One basic example will do. I'm waiting for your logical explanation. Thanks.

Akin1212:


It's not a matter of what you want, nobody cares about that. It's a matter of what you are. A theist.
I have proved you to be wrong on so many grounds.

I have said it earlier, it's either you're pretending to be dumb or you're really dumb. And it's not even an insult but the truth.

You have avoided questions since Sunday because you are scared. Now you are asking for explanations on energy. When you know nothing of this energy.

Answer my questions first, and then I will come to your level to explain energy in details and how it works to you... First come. first serve. ;

OkaiCorne:


I thought you have concluded the parallel universe is wrong. What do you need answers for something you have concluded is wrong.

You thought me that Energy is unconscious and acts on its own.

Kindly use your logic to help myself and Nairalanders understand how spontaneous, unconscious and unintelligent energy is solely responsible for Organized, Conscious and intelligent life.

If you can back up your answer with a basic example, it would be much appreciated. Thanks

At the very least, just provide links to back up your conclusion on How Energy is solely responsible for the creation of the Universe. I want to learn more stuffs on energy and I can't find a better tutor than Akin1212

OkaiCorne:
Dear Akin1212, I have checked for types of energy...I need your assistance in explaining how any of these types is solely responsible without the input of anything else in creating a conscious and intelligent life form.

Let us conclude this with you as the Teacher and I as the student.

Energy is your field, please help. Any other person can help if Akin1212 does not want to.

I really to get this part thrashed out.

Here's the source if Akin1212 or any other person wants to put me through on important details I have missed out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy

Akin1212:


I'm really glad to know that you want to learn, but which of those energy listed do you know anything about?

It's even good that you have started browsing for links again, I'm sure you will soon find the truth now.

But please, answer my questions above on where we stand now. I have been able to thrash with viable evidence that your claims(the parallel universe and planes of existence) are false. So the former is a fiction and the latter is religious and unreal. Are we on the same page?

I want to answer your questions once and for all, but these impediments won't let me. Let me know if we are on the same page.

I will reveal secrets about energy and teach you about all the listed energies.

Graycoder:
I didn't expect you guys to drag this too long to this stage. I guess the inabilty to understand each other is really the reason. Okaicorne is not ready to learn what he does not know, he is however ready to question what he does not know, by deliberately not paying attention.

Akin, on the other hand, is not a very patient person. You don't insult someone who is not scientifically oriented when you're supposed to explain some things to him.

Well, I will watch on anyway and contribute when I need to

Graycoder:
I didn't expect you guys to drag this too long to this stage. I guess the inabilty to understand each other is really the reason. Okaicorne is not ready to learn what he does not know, he is however ready to question what he does not know, by deliberately not paying attention.

Akin, on the other hand, is not a very patient person. You don't insult someone who is not scientifically oriented when you're supposed to explain some things to him.

Well, I will watch on anyway and contribute when I need to

Akin1212:


What will I do boss? OkaiCorne is very annoying. He has zero knowledge of Science, yet he knows so much about it.

OkaiCorne:


I know I can be annoying...I don't doubt that, just help stop the quarrel between theist and atheist by using basic examples to explain How Unconscious energy could be the "GOD " solely responsible for conscious and intelligent life.

Akin1212...this is no longer about who is right or wrong between you and me. This is for every theist and atheist to get clearer understanding

Infact...if you can do this, I would delete all my posts on this thread if you want to...

Do we have a deal?

Akin1212:


I did not conclude, I verified it with viable points. Do you agree that it is NON EXISTENT IN SCIENCE and you will not scream it again? I need to know that we are progressing. Please answer.
That the plain of existence and the parallel universe are not scientific and are nonexistent in real life.

The answer to your question has been bolded in your question above. And you are the perfect example of what you ask for.

If you want the meaning of spontaneity, I will explain it and put you through despite that you need a deep knowledge of science to understand I will still try best for you. You're really learning by answering your questions by yourself. Good work son.

OkaiCorne:


Haba nau... I just brought out all the types of energy I could lay my hands on...is there any type that can solely create things with no input of intellect or consciousness?

This goes beyond proving Akin1212 wrong. I really want to understand how unconscious energy alone is responsible for conscious life.

That way...Akin1212 would have solved one major problem causing atheists and theists in quarreling. Hopefully this thread would be a reference which will pass the message across more clearly.

WHAT I WOULD FIND MORE FULFILLING IN PROVING AKIN1212 WRONG IS LEARNING HOW THIS UNCONSCIOUS ENERGY CAN CREATE CONSCIOUS LIFE ALONE

Graycoder:


I disagree with you sir. Based on what happened here yesterday, I have seen things exactly the way they are. You are a doubter of science despite that you have seen what it can do. I don't know if you are doing that deliberately but that does not speak well of you sir. You see facts clearly and you say otherwise. You actually stressed me much yesterday, after telling you that we cannot NORMALLY see what other animals see and vice versa, and that science has invented instruments that we can use to do that now. You still wetn ahead to bring some links that says we cannot see what other animals see. What is the difference? You see, that is so frustrating and uncharacteristic of intelligent discussions.

Now to the Energy part. I want to assume Akin has told you that energy can be interconverted.

All the FORMS of energy you listed are still ENERGY. They can be interconverted according to what they are needed for.

For example, Electrical energy can be converted to Heat energy for cooking.

Those forms of energy are all ONE, they are the same.

Saying which type of energy is SOLELY responsible is actually barbaric(Please don't see this as an insult). I don't know how I can make you understand this. I wish we were not doing this online. You could have understood better.

OkaiCorne:


Thanks for your patience Graycoder...can I make reference to where I think I misunderstood Akin? And perhaps you can straighten things out.

OkaiCorne:


Thanks for your patience Graycoder...can I make reference to where I think I misunderstood Akin? And perhaps you can straighten things out.

Akin1212:

No, I don't. Why? Because the universe is full of errors. If a God programmed this Universe, then he is incompetent. Vey very incompetent looking around it's very easy to see that. Have you ever seen the universe full fledge? If you believe you God created this universe, then I am disappointed in the creator. But on the other hand, Energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Energy is the Alpha and the Omega. You can only convert it from one form to the other. Energy is what most of you perceive as God and worships. But this Energy is not self-aware or conscious, it just acts. This Energy is not a being, it doesn't have angels, does not have a fierce enemy. Is not omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent. Does not control human beings. Did not create hellfire, Did not do a lot of things.



What's wrong with just coming to be? Don't you believe it can just come to be? Why believe God then just came to be?



Hahahaha, let me laugh a little. No that's actually an irony. This Energy is what you people now call God, and God that you people are going crazy about now has probably always been energy and is not worth being worshipped or feared. You just have to appreciate it.



Well, my viewpoint is plain. If God exists, then he's got to be perfect. But he is not as you have agreed he is only omniscient "to an extent" of which there is nothing as that. Energy has flaws and we know, so we in the science world have discovered how to use this energy to perfection.
I still maintain there is no being called God, because all these flaws are too cheap for a would be God. Is there anyway you want to explain the deficiencies of an Almighty who is not perfect? brother, we are truly not arguing, we are just enlightening each other.

Akin1212:


You have to answer my questions before you can say anything. I have answered yours and the whole of Nairaland can see my answer. You hav been calling Nairaland to your rescue since, now do the justice needed. We are all waiting.

Graycoder:


Please go ahead sir

Akin1212:

No, I don't. Why? Because the universe is full of errors. If a God programmed this Universe, then he is incompetent. Vey very incompetent looking around it's very easy to see that. Have you ever seen the universe full fledge? If you believe you God created this universe, then I am disappointed in the creator. But on the other hand, Energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Energy is the Alpha and the Omega. You can only convert it from one form to the other. Energy is what most of you perceive as God and worships. But this Energy is not self-aware or conscious, it just acts. This Energy is not a being, it doesn't have angels, does not have a fierce enemy. Is not omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent. Does not control human beings. Did not create hellfire, Did not do a lot of things.



What's wrong with just coming to be? Don't you believe it can just come to be? Why believe God then just came to be?



Hahahaha, let me laugh a little. No that's actually an irony. This Energy is what you people now call God, and God that you people are going crazy about now has probably always been energy and is not worth being worshipped or feared. You just have to appreciate it.



Well, my viewpoint is plain. If God exists, then he's got to be perfect. But he is not as you have agreed he is only omniscient "to an extent" of which there is nothing as that. Energy has flaws and we know, so we in the science world have discovered how to use this energy to perfection.
I still maintain there is no being called God, because all these flaws are too cheap for a would be God. Is there anyway you want to explain the deficiencies of an Almighty who is not perfect? brother, we are truly not arguing, we are just enlightening each other.

OkaiCorne:


Are you referring to the parallel planes of existence that YOU HAVE CONCLUDED IS WRONG

of what benefit is my answer to you again? to convert you to a theist or what?

If you ain't gonna answer me...somebody else will definitely do that

Akin1212:


Runaway baby, you're going nowhere.


Is giving verifiable and reasonable from the link you dropped here by yourself a conclusion?

I understand your plight.