Reference:
He is an Evangelist not a Pastor. He has no flock so needs no offerings. It is not the same thing as running a church. Evangelists aee like midwives. They take delivery at new birth, but it takes a mother to raise a child and tell me it doesn't require funding.

come and see one of them , by their post we shall know them

NwaAmaikpe:



Now that's a genuine missionary.


But my friend Johnson Suleiman in all his crusades will ask us to sow a dangerous seed of faith that will push God to the wall.

Seeds that end up in Stephanie Otobo's account.

Lwkmd o

And this bald headed thief is using his members money to nack olosho.

Omooba77:


It was Daniel Kolenda that said it; he only said they dont collect offering at crusade because some people in America and Europe have given sacrificially.. That people should give that offering at their local church Sunday morning.It is not good for people spreading

Yes, that is clear and it is good they are warning against collections because it could damage their reputation abroad and in the comity of those kind hearted enough to sponsor the spread of the gospel throughout the world.

My grouse is that the abuse by a few pastors of the privilege of receiving offerings has played into the hands of those who want to run the church out of town. No one will call for the ban of cars simply because of accidents but to make them safer. Why not suggestions to make pastors more accountable, no. They just want all offerings stopped so that the church grinds to a halt.

Nigeria is bad. It is the churches fault. Yet they know exactly who does what and keep quiet on them but pick on pastors simply because they are soft targets with no moral rights of reply.

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Yes, that is clear and it is good they are warning against collections because it could damage their reputation abroad and in the comity of those kind hearted enough to sponsor the spread of the gospel throughout the world.

My grouse is that the abuse by a few pastors of the privilege of receiving offerings has played into the hands of those who want to run the church out of town. No one will call for the ban of cars simply because of accidents but to make them safer. Why not suggestions to make pastors more accountable, no. They just want all offerings stopped so that the church grinds to a halt.

Nigeria is bad. It is the churches fault. Yet they know exactly who does what and keep quiet on them but pick on pastors simply because they are soft targets with no moral rights of reply.

i believe dis is y we are where we are today. Instead of them to face government for the sufferings na pastor. The loving God is still God of Elijah o.

dominique:
So how was the crusade funded?

that is why you could hardly please naira landers. Because he hasn't given you guys a hold to destructively criticize the church and pastors and call him a scammer as usual, you now ask how it could it be funded. Non of your business sir. Keep your anti offering and tithe talk

Built2last:
20 years ago. We used to occasionally raise money for missions. The money raised is announced. Those going to preach are brought out and prayed for. Church pays them at the field and take care of their families. It was a small local church. I am now in Abuja and an not count 5 churches with missionaries in the field. Or seriously funding missions. What we see is posh cars, jets and house warming.pastors family all schooling abroad and some come on pulpit to tell you that they don't collect salaries from the church and it's not your tithe and offering sustaining the church.

Most pastors do not want to answerable to anyone when it comes to church funds.

We build gigantic structures and preach to same people every Sunday. These people have heard of Christ and you keep them in a building preaching and collecting tithes and offerings. When the money become much they announce they are opening another branch in a beautiful city where income is guaranteed. There was never a place Bible recorded that money or contribution s made by the early church was spent in building a house or a church.

Even the Malachi 3:10 Nigerian pastors anchor on say bring ye tithe into my store house that there may be food. Food food. Who eats food in church. People who can't afford it .the poor. Tithe is to meet immediate needs first before buildings and cars and lavish life style. People attend services and go home not sure of where the next meal will come from and you collect the balance on them in the name of offering and drive home in A posh car. Some of our pastors are so surrounded by securities that a member who has no food cant even reach him. They invite pastors who will come out and call for a million naira seed, you think it ends there. They call 500, 200, 50k, 10k 1k till they tell you to drop whatever you have. To avert the curse. Which curse when Bible clearly tells us that Christ has redeem us from every curse of the law. They say pay that the devourers are rebuked. Christ said whatever is born of God over comes the world.

We must change our ways. Judgement is coming...

Wonderful message but coming from a hateful, insult-spewing, violence - threatening person.

chloride6:
Mehn....

This anti tithing don dey make sense sha....

NwaAmaikpe:



Now that's a genuine missionary.


But my friend Johnson Suleiman in all his crusades will ask us to sow a dangerous seed of faith that will push God to the wall.

Seeds that end up in Stephanie Otobo's account.

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lereinter:


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Omo, where you get this kain pissure?

Should I still pay offerings?

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Yes, that is clear and it is good they are warning against collections because it could damage their reputation abroad and in the comity of those kind hearted enough to sponsor the spread of the gospel throughout the world.

My grouse is that the abuse by a few pastors of the privilege of receiving offerings has played into the hands of those who want to run the church out of town. No one will call for the ban of cars simply because of accidents but to make them safer. Why not suggestions to make pastors more accountable, no. They just want all offerings stopped so that the church grinds to a halt.

Nigeria is bad. It is the churches fault. Yet they know exactly who does what and keep quiet on them but pick on pastors simply because they are soft targets with no moral rights of reply.

Anyone that steal, it is between him and God.
The churches RCCG, MFM, Deeper Life and so on donated buses to convey people free of Charge.
When you have good, their must be bad....Matthew 7:21-23

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Yes, that is clear and it is good they are warning against collections because it could damage their reputation abroad and in the comity of those kind hearted enough to sponsor the spread of the gospel throughout the world.

My grouse is that the abuse by a few pastors of the privilege of receiving offerings has played into the hands of those who want to run the church out of town. No one will call for the ban of cars simply because of accidents but to make them safer. Why not suggestions to make pastors more accountable, no. They just want all offerings stopped so that the church grinds to a halt.

Nigeria is bad. It is the churches fault. Yet they know exactly who does what and keep quiet on them but pick on pastors simply because they are soft targets with no moral rights of reply.

You made a point. However many churches need to wake up to their responsiblities. The old churches still have mission outreach programmes, hospitals/clinics, widow and orphan support, youth empowerment, prison and hospital ministries, children rehabilitatation ministry, elders forum and schools. These are all funded by the church from tithes, offerings and dedicated donations.

Proper accounts are rendered annually to the whole church and questions raised are addressed. If other churches toe this path, there'll be less outcry against the church. No one can bring down the church anyway, except God so desires.

Reference:
He is an Evangelist not a Pastor. He has no flock so needs no offerings. It is not the same thing as running a church. Evangelists aee like midwives. They take delivery at new birth, but it takes a mother to raise a child and tell me it doesn't require funding.

It's only a few people that actually understand Christianity and church management. They think it's paper and sand one uses to run a church. That a few pastors flaunt wealth is not a true reflection of the hundreds of thousands of pastors/shepherds who are struggling to keep local assemblies open every week with little or no financial support from their tiny congregation.

Many expect pastors to copy an evangelist who leads souls to CHRIST and then goes to sleep, leaving the real lifelong task of nursing those souls for pastors to sweat about with its daily and weekly financial, spiritual, psychological and emotional commitments.

Abeg I nor fit type again. There obviously are too many ignorant children in Christianity. Thanks bro for the awakening.

obataokenwa post1: You only see this also in Deeper Life crusades. No offering whatsoever. Real Christianity shows

lies bro, two times kumuyi came to warri stadium for crusade they collected offering.

No nigerian church is exceptional when it comes to offering and tithing apart from JW

dominique:
So how was the crusade funded?

Funded By international groups!

delpee:


You made a point. However many churches need to wake up to their responsiblities. The old churches still have mission outreach programmes, hospitals/clinics, widow and orphan support, youth empowerment, prison and hospital ministries, children rehabilitatation ministry, elders forum and schools. These are all funded by the church from tithes, offerings and dedicated donations.

Proper accounts are rendered annually to the whole church and questions raised are addressed. If other churches toe this path, there'll be less outcry against the church. No one can bring down the church anyway, except God so desires.

Many churches are doing their best. The financially buoyant churches are very few. Many still do missions and offer charitable services to their members and communities. That you are not aware does not mean it is nonexistent. Churches don't need to broadcast what they do for the world to approve them. Truth be told, most Nigerian churches are very poor financially. Getting the assembly open on a weekly basis is a cross many are carrying.

The most acceptable offering is our heart......... You can give all the money in the world to the church and still go to hell. The most important question we should ask ourselves everyday..... Is "how real is Jesus in my life?"

realestworld:

lies bro, two times kumuyi came to warri stadium for crusade they collected offering.

No nigerian church is exceptional when it comes to offering and tithing apart from JW

Shouldn't they collect offerings?

realestworld:

lies bro, two times kumuyi came to warri stadium for crusade they collected offering.

No nigerian church is exceptional when it comes to offering and tithing apart from JW

Not possible.

Daviddson:
Wonderful message but coming from a hateful, insult-spewing, violence - threatening person.

Get a life archbishop. The person to judge my actions is God.

The gullibles will still pay, that's how they validate their existence.

Deicide:
This guy still get mind come 9ja after all that scam that year well knowing the kind of country am in where people dont use their brain or maybe they dont even have one and its just fat

which scam?? which year

avalontony:
The most acceptable offering is our heart......... You can give all the money in the world to the church and still go to hell. The most important question we should ask ourselves everyday..... Is "how real is Jesus in my life?"

Offerings are needed to run church assemblies. Bonnke did not organize an offering-free crusade because he is the kindest preacher around. Simply put, offerings had already been given for the crusade by people who know that it takes money to fund church events. The financial and the most important spiritual blessings of the crusade belong to those who sponsored it.

Nothing is ever free! Salvation is free because JESUS paid for it!

Deicide:
This guy still get mind come 9ja after all that scam that year well knowing the kind of country am in where people dont use their brain or maybe they dont even have one and its just fat

Abeg wch scam again o.

NwaAmaikpe:



Now that's a genuine missionary.


But my friend Johnson Suleiman in all his crusades will ask us to sow a dangerous seed of faith that will push God to the wall.

Seeds that end up in Stephanie Otobo's account.

money makes the world go round brah

Built2last:
20 years ago. We used to occasionally raise money for missions. The money raised is announced. Those going to preach are brought out and prayed for. Church pays them at the field and take care of their families. It was a small local church. I am now in Abuja and an not count 5 churches with missionaries in the field. Or seriously funding missions. What we see is posh cars, jets and house warming.pastors family all schooling abroad and some come on pulpit to tell you that they don't collect salaries from the church and it's not your tithe and offering sustaining the church.

Most pastors do not want to answerable to anyone when it comes to church funds.

We build gigantic structures and preach to same people every Sunday. These people have heard of Christ and you keep them in a building preaching and collecting tithes and offerings. When the money become much they announce they are opening another branch in a beautiful city where income is guaranteed. There was never a place Bible recorded that money or contribution s made by the early church was spent in building a house or a church.

Even the Malachi 3:10 Nigerian pastors anchor on say bring ye tithe into my store house that there may be food. Food food. Who eats food in church. People who can't afford it .the poor. Tithe is to meet immediate needs first before buildings and cars and lavish life style. People attend services and go home not sure of where the next meal will come from and you collect the balance on them in the name of offering and drive home in A posh car. Some of our pastors are so surrounded by securities that a member who has no food cant even reach him. They invite pastors who will come out and call for a million naira seed, you think it ends there. They call 500, 200, 50k, 10k 1k till they tell you to drop whatever you have. To avert the curse. Which curse when Bible clearly tells us that Christ has redeem us from every curse of the law. They say pay that the devourers are rebuked. Christ said whatever is born of God over comes the world.

We must change our ways. Judgement is coming...

Church still does so; even countries you dont have Nigeria mission, a church from Nigeria is there sir.
The Church opened up Koma in Adamawa state.

Nigerian pastors, money, money, money, money. Yes he doesn't want to leave the poor poorer nor receive from looters.

michaels5050:
most nigerian pastors won't be happy with the man. In banking sector they call it legal tender , in street language rabbah or cheddah even mmm call it mavro , school call it fees in church setting its called tithe and offering.

What has showing ur face gotta do with your comment mate?

NwaAmaikpe:



Now that's a genuine missionary.


But my friend Johnson Suleiman in all his crusades will ask us to sow a dangerous seed of faith that will push God to the wall.

Seeds that end up in Stephanie Otobo's account.

Thunder fall on... fire fall on you.. ur stupidity will be on d increase, I have said it and it's working.. continue.

Omooba77:


Please ignore the half truth ma....People are just looking for ways to discredit Pastors....May God forgive them.

Why are u so pained? Liberation has finally come to the sheeple. Thanks to Daddy Frz.

obataokenwa:
You only see this also in Deeper Life crusades. No offering whatsoever. Real Christianity shows

That's very true. DLBC is one of the few churches that's more concerned with your spiritual wellbeing.