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Themandator:
You are wrong. Money is a relatively new means of exchange. In the old times it was cash crops. ....

the tithe Jesus spoke about in Matt 23:23 covered everything when he told them leaders of the church that they pay tithe of everything even to the most ridiculous items like anise but have neglected the more important matters of justice which they ought also have done while not neglecting the tithe.

Talking nonsense! Go and read Deuteronomy 14 24 to 26 and tell me how money was a new means of exchange.

[quote author=Gggg102 post=62157900]read Deuteronomy 14 from 22 downwards

ur claim that there was no form of currency is totally wrong

tithe was food to be eaten in the place God chooses


the storehouse is not a church or Temple but a barn for the excess food

the holy spirit killed Ananias and saphirra because they lied not because they gave part of their tithe


Jesus promised whatsoever you do to the least of my brother that you do unto me


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And according to this Detronomy 14:22-29
Tithe is 10% of Annual Produce
Not 10% of monthly Produce

And the Tither was eat it before Jehovah. And another 10% of three years produce was to be shared to the Levites( may todays men of God", the foreign resident, the fatherless child and window).

So this monthly 10% tithing amounts 120% Annually which is contrary God's directive.

hardasan:
The bible asked us to bring of our increase,
It could be livestock and foodstuffs or money.
You are free to give whichever applies to you. Or even use ur tithe to buy commodities to give to the church just as u can sell ur commodity and give money. None is set in stone.

wrong again deut 14:22-26, but to save ur time verse 24..24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away), 25 then exchangeg your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink,h or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice.... Not and give it to the pastor

Themandator:
Go and read that Malachi again... bring he all the tithe that there might be MEAT .... can you convert yam to meat..... Matt 10:10 Jesus told his disciples not to take coat, scrip, shoe nor staves for every Workman is worthy of his MEAT.... HOW does shoe, cost etc becomes MEAT?

You too should read
Deuteronomy 14 : 22-27.

You and your family should eat your tithe. You can also give to others including a pastor.

According to this Detronomy 14:22-29
Tithe is 10% of Annual Produce
Not 10% of monthly Produce

And the Tither was eat it before Jehovah. And another 10% of three years produce was to be shared to the Levites( may todays men of God", the foreign resident, the fatherless child and window).

So this monthly 10% tithing amounts 120% Annually which is contrary God's directive.

NwaAmaikpe:



Sorry to differ with you.
But the giving of monetary offerings to the church as tithe is wrong, it is unbiblical and purely exploitative.

The Bible is perspicuous about tithing.
Deuteronomy 14 : 22-27
Explains the process of tithing which our devilish pastors never tell us.

Kindly study it and be blessed.

It smacks of deception to see tithing from the perspective of the Bible passages where it was only mentioned and ignore Deuteronomy where it was described and explained in details... thank you for your observation

The tithe is for the Levi who have no inheritance and are not allow to work. During the new testament, some apostles were working and providing for themselves. so as not to be a burden. The new tithe message these day by some pastor is akin to extortion.

hardasan:
I just refuse to keep quiet while Christians are brainwashed by anybody.

I want to quote Malachi Ch 3 v 7 - 12 while highlighting verse 10

Malachi 3:7-12King James Version (KJV)

7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the Lord of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?

8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.

9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.

10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

11 And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the Lord of hosts.

12 And all nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land, saith the Lord of hosts.

Here the bible plainly said in verse 8: " Yet ye have robbed me, But ye say where in. Have we robbed thee? "
The bible answered : "In tithes and offerings"

Verse 9 says: Ye are cursed for ye have robbed me. It didn't say ye are cursed for not eating your tithe or ye are cursed for paying to a pastor and not into heaven's bank account directly from the earth.

Verse 10 gives a direct instruction: Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse. It didn't say eat ye all the tithes in front of the storehouse or give ye all the tithes to the poor and widows.
In the biblical days, payments could be by precious stones or commodities. That's why trade by barter markets existed in the days of my grandparents before currencies became the order of the day. Now, 99.9% of people earn currencies not livestock or commodities, so it's normal that we pay tithe in cash.

Verse 11 is a promise by God to bless anyone who obeys this instruction of tithing

John ch 12 talks about Jesus being anointed for his burial with a very expensive ointment, Judas asked why the costly ointment wasn't sold and given to the poor instead of " wasting it"
Jesus said in verse 8: For the poor always ye have with you ; but me ye have not always

Matthew ch 10 vs 40 - 41, Jesus promised to. Reward those who are kind or who gives as little as a cup of cold water to his servants

Ever wondered why Jesus picked out the widow in Mark ch 12 vs 42 for giving her all since he doesn't care about our offering ?

Or why the Holy Ghost killed Ananias and Sapphira for keeping part of the money gotten from the sales of their own land in Acts ch 5 vs 1 - 11 if God doesn't care about our tithes and offerings.

Take heed that no wolf in sheep's clothing deceives you. God commanded tithing and offerings. If you want to pay yours when you get to heaven, that's your business, but don't go about stumbling people Christ died for cus it will be better for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for you.

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Please try to read through the thread, a lot of questions have been answered which are not mentioned in this initial post.
God bless the contributors and the sincere readers

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Themandator:
Go and read that Malachi again... bring he all the tithe that there might be MEAT .... can you convert yam to meat..... Matt 10:10 Jesus told his disciples not to take coat, scrip, shoe nor staves for every Workman is worthy of his MEAT.... HOW does shoe, cost etc becomes MEAT?

It said bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse. The storehouse was a place where all manner of goods could be stored! The biblical storehouse isn't the temple for your information. We model our Christianity after Jesus and tge teachings from the apostle! And I'm surprised i raised a lot of points but you tried to cherry pick it without thinking through your choice!

You need to observe the Malachi u just qouted very well, the verses u quoted were not for the congregation, the verses were talking about the Priests whom were to pay the 10% of the 10% they were to receive from levites which were meant to be kept in the storehouse for widows, fatherless and the less priveledge. God was angry with them coz they were diverting the tithes.
let's digest Bible fully rather than from d surface for more understanding.

Yahweh and Jesus always known for bring Contradicting revelation and Confusing his worshippers.

hardasan:
Freeze is telling y'all that the apostles didn't collect any money and God doesn't care about the offerings and tithes. The story of Ananias shows that the apostles collected all sef at a point and the Holy Spirit killed someone who kept back some of his all.
Bro, pay your tithe and offerings to your pastor. It's biblical.

ananias was killed because he lied, not because he kept some for himself. Dnt just read the surface of the bible, read it well

hardasan:
Acts 2:44-47King James Version (KJV)

44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;

45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

Dear sir, Ananias cannot chop other people's money and bring only part of his own. So, it was compulsory that he brought all. That's why he lied.

Ananias committed two offenses :
Acts ch 5 vs 3
But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?

The holy spirit killed Ananias for stealing part of his contributions to the church.

Bro pls stop mis quoting the bible, the contributions weren't compulsory,ananias was killed because he LIED..are you saying all those that didn't contribute were also killed?

nairanaira12:
Deuteronomy 14 : 22-27.

I read this in kjv and I really don't understand. What version explains it well. I want to clearly see where it says we should eat the tithe

hahahha i lafff biblical..una go talk if una be jew or levite......nonsense

goldedprince:
I read this in kjv and I really don't understand. What version explains it well. I want to clearly see where it says we should eat the tithe

NIV explained it better

I am sure you are one of those brainwashed church goers who never study their Bible in detail, but just memorize fee verses put into their mouth by their greedy half-baked pastors. My dear, tithe is unchrisian. It has no root or basis in Christianity. Tithing was under the mosaic law and there are rules that guide it's payment. Tithing by istrealites had a 7 years circle and it was been paid once yearly. There are 12 tribes in istreal and only 11 were requested to pay thite to one tribe, which is the levite. Priests had no power to receive tithe from congregation. Tithes were paid to the levies because they had no inheritance in istreal. Out of the tithe collected from congregation, the levies give the 10% of the tithe they collected to the priest [i][/i][/b]for the purpose of making meat-food available in the temple for the poor.[b][/b][b]. Priests were not supposed to eat tithes. The grossly misconstrued Malachi 3, being used to manipulate the gullible church goers was not directed at the congregation. Start reading the account from the book of Nehemiah, by the time you get to Malachi chapter 3, you will understand who God was speaking too. That scripture was directed at the mosaic Priests, not You, not me and not the church.
The account was that the priests were collecting the 10% of tithe from the levites, but instead of sending it to the house of God, they were eating it, just the way today pastors are collecting your money in the name of offering and tithes and passing it to Otobo. These are the people that God called robbers in Malachi and that is under mosaic law. How come Jesus never received or paid tithe? Afterall, he is the author and the finisher of our faith. How come non of the apostles ever did?. Watch this videos and get a bit enlightened. No wonder the bible says a fool and his money are easily parted. 29:32
It’s a Sin to Pay Tithe
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hardasan:
I just refuse to keep quiet while Christians are brainwashed by anybody.

I want to quote Malachi Ch 3 v 7 - 12 while highlighting verse 10

Malachi 3:7-12King James Version (KJV)

7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the Lord of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?

8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.

9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.

10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

11 And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the Lord of hosts.

12 And all nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land, saith the Lord of hosts.

Here the bible plainly said in verse 8: " Yet ye have robbed me, But ye say where in. Have we robbed thee? "
The bible answered : "In tithes and offerings"

Verse 9 says: Ye are cursed for ye have robbed me. It didn't say ye are cursed for not eating your tithe or ye are cursed for paying to a pastor and not into heaven's bank account directly from the earth.

Verse 10 gives a direct instruction: Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse. It didn't say eat ye all the tithes in front of the storehouse or give ye all the tithes to the poor and widows.
In the biblical days, payments could be by precious stones or commodities. That's why trade by barter markets existed in the days of my grandparents before currencies became the order of the day. Now, 99.9% of people earn currencies not livestock or commodities, so it's normal that we pay tithe in cash.

Verse 11 is a promise by God to bless anyone who obeys this instruction of tithing

John ch 12 talks about Jesus being anointed for his burial with a very expensive ointment, Judas asked why the costly ointment wasn't sold and given to the poor instead of " wasting it"
Jesus said in verse 8: For the poor always ye have with you ; but me ye have not always

Matthew ch 10 vs 40 - 41, Jesus promised to. Reward those who are kind or who gives as little as a cup of cold water to his servants

Ever wondered why Jesus picked out the widow in Mark ch 12 vs 42 for giving her all since he doesn't care about our offering ?

Or why the Holy Ghost killed Ananias and Sapphira for keeping part of the money gotten from the sales of their own land in Acts ch 5 vs 1 - 11 if God doesn't care about our tithes and offerings.

Take heed that no wolf in sheep's clothing deceives you. God commanded tithing and offerings. If you want to pay yours when you get to heaven, that's your business, but don't go about stumbling people Christ died for cus it will be better for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for you.

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Please try to read through the thread, a lot of questions have been answered which are not mentioned in this initial post.
God bless the contributors and the sincere readers

hardasan:
Freeze is telling y'all that the apostles didn't collect any money and God doesn't care about the offerings and tithes. The story of Ananias shows that the apostles collected all sef at a point and the Holy Spirit killed someone who kept back some of his all.
Bro, pay your tithe and offerings to your pastor. It's biblical.

Gggg102:
ur usage of Ananias and acts is not related to your topic
because they were not tithing or do you want to say that youve sold all you have and given it all to the church
the purpose of the giving to the church then is for those who did not have so that they will not go hungry plus the beneficiaries of the donations of the Christians was the Christians not the pastors. and the giving was still free will they were not forced to sell their properties they were moved to do so
they were not cursed if they did not sell the properties.
the issue of the selling of properties to feed themselves and the needy among them is different from tithe
or do you want to say that those who had nothing to sell were left out of the sharing

This is Jesus speaking here.
Luke 11:42 KJV
But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
The bolded means paying of tithe is not negotiable, it"s an obligation that needed to be done while not negecting other things.

goldedprince:
I read this in kjv and I really don't understand. What version explains it well. I want to clearly see where it says we should eat the tithe

In verse 26

I would like everybody to check this out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KTnS3VxNUI

hardasan:
1Chorinthians 10 vs 19 -20 says that sacrifices are not to God but to Idols. So offering of burnt offerings have been abolished that's why neither Jesus nor his disciples offered burnt offerings but Jesus never condemned tithes instead he said give to ceaser what belongs to ceaser and give to God what belongs to God.

Another mis quoting, ts clear u do not read your bible well, or u are just trying to evade questions with mis quoted scriptures.

hardasan:
22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.

23 And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always.

28 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates:

29 And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.

Furthermore, verse 23 talks about the tithe of farm produce and livestock. What happens to others ?
Verse 28-29 says after 3yrs you should bring your all your tithe to be eaten. How possible is that ? So if u earn 1m every yr, after the 3rd yr, you'll cough up roughly your 4months salary that year (300,000ngn) to buy beer and corn? Can you and your pastor finish the tithe ? Or do you pay tithe in December once in 3yrs ?
I Want you to respond.

Are you querying the Bible
Do you prefer the useless, beguiling words of your gods of men?
Why would you want to perish for lack of knowledge- knowledge of the pure word of God?
Why did you talk about eating with the pastor (who is NOT a Levite in any way) so as to omit the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow


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hardasan:
1Chorinthians 10 vs 19 -20 says that sacrifices are not to God but to Idols. So offering of burnt offerings have been abolished that's why neither Jesus nor his disciples offered burnt offerings but Jesus never condemned tithes instead he said give to ceaser what belongs to ceaser and give to God what belongs to God.

You do realise that tithing and offering of burnt offerings were all parts of The Law?... and these were the same laws Jesus came to fulfil with His death and resurrection. So if you believe the supreme sacrifice of Jesus Christ has fulfilled the law and thereby put an end to animal sacrifices, why then do you think the mandatory tithing part of The Law has not also been fulfilled?

You said Jesus didnt condemn tithing, but you seem to overlook the fact that whilst Jesus was still on earth, The Law was still in operation, The Law was only fulfilled after Jesus resurrected. If only you can point out a scripture in the New Covenant dispensation (i.e. after resurrection) where the apostles commanded anyone to pay a mandatory 10%, that would be the best scriptural basis for your argument.

You mentioned earlier about the people of the early church bringing in all they had to the apostles. Do you realise those people actually gave 'freely and without compulsion' according to Paul's teaching in 2Cor 9:7?

"Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver."

You do realise that the moment a percentage is specified in what I must give, then it's no longer 'what I've decided in my heart' but rather it is a compulsory demand?...

2Cor 9:7 is basically the model of giving instructed to the New Covenant church (i.e. post resurrection). This verse also explains the model of giving instructed to the Gentile Christians (of which Nigerian churches in 2017 fall under). I wonder why modern day preachers always neglect this simple instruction on giving freely as conveyed in 2Cor 9:7.

Yes it is good to give your tithe cos the money is needed for operational expenses of the church; and of course, God always rewards givers. But preaching that it's a mandatory command from God even under the New Covenant? and that any who doesnt tithe is under a divine curse, I'm sorry, that's heresy.

hardasan:
1peter 2vs 9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Every one of us in the Christiandom are priests. The pastors receive tithes because they represent the lévites of Judaism. Pastoral work is full time. Fake Pastor or genuine Pastor, they work full time. So just as the lévites are given land and tithes, the pastors are given tithes and offerings.

Please don't contradict yourself, earlier you said some have private universities and other businesses...........

hardasan:
Freeze is telling y'all that the apostles didn't collect any money and God doesn't care about the offerings and tithes. The story of Ananias shows that the apostles collected all sef at a point and the Holy Spirit killed someone who kept back some of his all.
Bro, pay your tithe and offerings to your pastor. It's biblical.

Oga, can you tell me why many men of God find it difficult to quote the book of Deut 14:22-27. Why would they lay emphasis on Malachi

Gggg102:
1 I'm not kicking against tithe
I'm kicking against compulsion of tithing or haven't you heard that most churches don't allow members to get married and do other things without tithe
or how curses are attached to non payment
if you want to tithe do it but it is not compulsory



in the new testament nobody paid tithe also
you

what God wants actually is a pure heart
who do you think is closer to God.


the man that pays tithe but does not live a Christian life or a the man that lives a Christian life but does not pay tithe
our manmade money is useless to God

it is okay to give in appreciation to God that is Thanksgiving. u can use ur tithe to thank God if you want but that does not make it compulsory

again the Christians in acts were not paying tithes... they were moved to give out of free will not compelled to do so like how it is practiced today

again I'm not against tithing(I prefer to call it giving 10% now)
people even give 10% in my church but they are not forced
the only thing that is announced is that if u want to pay come forward and they pray for you.
no preaching about tithe and how u will be cursed if u don't pay
no keeping of record of who pays so u will deny those who don't pay their rights
just free will.

Well, the topic is not about curses; it's about if the paying of tithes is biblical. And from the look of it, the paying of tithes is biblical.

All other arguments are pointless.

The Bible is very clear.

But as humans, we are free to disagree and try to tailor it to suit our whims. If the Bible states there are curses, whether you like it or not there are. Your feelings are inconsequential.

It's not our job to add or subtract. If it's written, then it's written. Take it or leave it. But do not lean to your own understanding. If you're looking for Levites to pay it to, go back to Judaism.

Jesus never emphasis on tithe.....its was not mention in d new testament....modern pastors love quoting old testament bible passages especially malachi...there is difference between Tithe and giving/ also between offering and tithe...d bible passages u quoted in d new testament are on giving not tithe......am not against paying of tithe..the most important thigh is ur salvation making heaven @ d end..

uyplus:
It said bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse. The storehouse was a place where all manner of goods could be stored! The biblical storehouse isn't the temple for your information. We model our Christianity after Jesus and tge teachings from the apostle! And I'm surprised i raised a lot of points but you tried to cherry pick it without thinking through your choice!

I didn't cherry pick ...I am pointing out that your statement that tithe is on crop and not and never money doesn't hold water .... if it was incrop or produce of the land then the passage won't move to say ...so ther might be meat in mine house but would have read...so that might be all manners of land produce in mine house


Then when Jesus addressed his disciples before sending them out on evangelism he said they should not take shoe, coat that every labourer is worthy of his meat ....they ought t have asked him about clothes since meat is not same as coat or shoe. .....as the apostles preached Jesus expected their needs to be met by their new convert when he stated that every labourer was worthy of their hire .... God would use their peolel to pay them whatever their need was


You see, it is a word play. Bring ye all the tithe ....that mine House maybe full.....so that every need in mine house can be met without begging or gimmicks

chisco82:
This is Jesus speaking here.
Luke 11:42 KJV
But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
The bolded means paying of tithe is not negotiable, it"s an obligation that needed to be done while not negecting other things.

Not negotiable for the Jews

Same way circumcision was compulsory for the Jews but now it is no longer compulsory.

hardasan:
I just refuse to keep quiet while Christians are brainwashed by anybody.

I want to quote Malachi Ch 3 v 7 - 12 while highlighting verse 10

Malachi 3:7-12King James Version (KJV)

7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the Lord of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?

8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.

9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.

10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

11 And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the Lord of hosts.

12 And all nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land, saith the Lord of hosts.

Here the bible plainly said in verse 8: " Yet ye have robbed me, But ye say where in. Have we robbed thee? "
The bible answered : "In tithes and offerings"

Verse 9 says: Ye are cursed for ye have robbed me. It didn't say ye are cursed for not eating your tithe or ye are cursed for paying to a pastor and not into heaven's bank account directly from the earth.

Verse 10 gives a direct instruction: Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse. It didn't say eat ye all the tithes in front of the storehouse or give ye all the tithes to the poor and widows.
In the biblical days, payments could be by precious stones or commodities. That's why trade by barter markets existed in the days of my grandparents before currencies became the order of the day. Now, 99.9% of people earn currencies not livestock or commodities, so it's normal that we pay tithe in cash.

Verse 11 is a promise by God to bless anyone who obeys this instruction of tithing

John ch 12 talks about Jesus being anointed for his burial with a very expensive ointment, Judas asked why the costly ointment wasn't sold and given to the poor instead of " wasting it"
Jesus said in verse 8: For the poor always ye have with you ; but me ye have not always

Matthew ch 10 vs 40 - 41, Jesus promised to. Reward those who are kind or who gives as little as a cup of cold water to his servants

Ever wondered why Jesus picked out the widow in Mark ch 12 vs 42 for giving her all since he doesn't care about our offering ?

Or why the Holy Ghost killed Ananias and Sapphira for keeping part of the money gotten from the sales of their own land in Acts ch 5 vs 1 - 11 if God doesn't care about our tithes and offerings.

Take heed that no wolf in sheep's clothing deceives you. God commanded tithing and offerings. If you want to pay yours when you get to heaven, that's your business, but don't go about stumbling people Christ died for cus it will be better for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for you.

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Please try to read through the thread, a lot of questions have been answered which are not mentioned in this initial post.
God bless the contributors and the sincere readers

They early Christians paid no tithe, Christ himself did not collect tithe. Tithe is under Mosiac law, and christians have no business with. Free will giving replaced tithes. Thanks.

chisco82:
This is Jesus speaking here.
Luke 11:42 KJV
But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
The bolded means paying of tithe is not negotiable, it"s an obligation that needed to be done while not negecting other things.

Paying of tithes in FARM products as stated in the Luke passage you quoted and Deuteronomy 14 that is comprehensive WAS not negotiable while Jesus was yet to FULFILL the law on the Cross of Calvary.
Do you understand or do you need further explanation?


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Gggg102:
for your first question read Deuteronomy 14 from 24 to 26
u really need to read Deuteronomy 14 from 22 to learn

he lied so that he would look righteous if Ananias told the apostles that it was part of the money he brought peter would not complain
why will the apostles tell him to bring the balance
yh the apostles received the money and used it to feed the poor the money was not for the apostles
and u r making it look like the apostles made it compulsory...

Since the money wasn't for the apostles, how were the apostles taking care of their families?.