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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Femo230: 1:48am On Nov 23, 2017
i beg what is minimum amount person can invest in TB
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by lancee(m): 1:55am On Nov 23, 2017
Femo230:
i beg what is minimum amount person can invest in TB


Some bank will accept 100k ..think first bank will do 100k

while some 500k

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by cooldudeng(m): 8:28am On Nov 23, 2017
Investnow2017:


Open a Stanbic IBTC Money Market Mutual Fund for him/her. You wont regret it. While T/Bills are currently 15-16%, Stanbic MMF is currently 17.49% even as at today. And you stand the chance to benefit from compounded returns. Just my opinion, because it is working for me.

Sir,

I bet to disagree slightly. We just can't look at T-bills rate without factoring the true yield considering your interest is paid upfront (time value of money). So, a 364 tenored Tbill at 15.2% will give you nothing less than 17.9% as true yield (Interest/ 1 - interest)

We all have our different reasons for investing and while a mutual fund might be ideal as a TRUST FUND for kids considering the low maintenance especially when you don't have to roll overs coupled with the fact that you can also contribute to the scheme on a Monthly basis, it still doesn't take away from the fact that T-bills might be the ideal investment vehicle for others

On the strength of returns, i will say both are almost at par with T-bills possibly being higher. Are the returns on Mutual funds tax free?

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Investnow2017: 9:14am On Nov 23, 2017
cooldudeng:


Sir,

I bet to disagree slightly. We just can't look at T-bills rate without factoring the true yield considering your interest is paid upfront (time value of money). So, a 364 tenored Tbill at 15.2% will give you nothing less than 17.9% as true yield (Interest/ 1 - interest)

We all have our different reasons for investing and while a mutual fund might be ideal as a TRUST FUND for kids considering the low maintenance especially when you don't have to roll overs coupled with the fact that you can also contribute to the scheme on a Monthly basis, it still doesn't take away from the fact that T-bills might be the ideal investment vehicle for others

On the strength of returns, i will say both are almost at par with T-bills possibly being higher. Are the returns on Mutual funds tax free?

I think we are saying the same thing, maybe in different ways. Well, you have spoken my mind in a different way. Because of the opportunity Mutual Fund offers to top up your investment as often as you can, make withdrawal, start-up fund size, etc, hence I chose it over TBills in those respects.

For instance, I locked in a TBills on a True Yield for 22.32% some time in August this year, and that rate holds for the next 364days, but I cannot access my fund should I so desire until it matures - that is 364days' time. For flexibility reasons, Mutual Fund has its ticks, you will no doubt agree.
.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by dipoolowoo: 10:45am On Nov 23, 2017
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by dipoolowoo: 11:22pm On Nov 23, 2017
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by infantlion(m): 6:21am On Nov 24, 2017
[quote author=infantlion post=62475322]Hello specialists in the house,
I was given 15.1% for 182days@firstbank a month ago.Principal-1m ..Interest was rolled over...I.e no interest was paid to my account.

I intend to terminate my investment on Monday due to pressing issue at hand..
I humbly want u guys to help me with answers to these questions:
1.Can I get my principal(1m) back without deductions?
2.how long does it take to process tbill termination request?

Best wishes!!!

cc:feelamong & co

Got over a million naira from this transaction. ..

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Sach: 8:19am On Nov 24, 2017
[quote author=infantlion post=62661694][/quote]Good to hear, the main factor was the fact that you didn't get your interest upfront, it made it easier to have your principal returned intact and even with a little interest after just a month. In the event, interest was received upfront, you will have had to wait at least two months or more to even get a semblance of your principal then maybe 3 or more for small interest with the principal.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Desanta(m): 9:24am On Nov 24, 2017
Desanta:


You should get over a million naira.

Secondary market is now hot cake, so you should be able to get your money back in a couple of days.


@ infantlion,
I told you that you would get over a million naira.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by careerwoman(f): 12:35pm On Nov 24, 2017
Hello everyone.. Been a while.. so I tested the secondary market.. got 16% for 167 days at FBN.. not bad, I guess... Thanks to the gurus for keeping the thread alive.. Ciao..

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by just2endowed: 12:54pm On Nov 24, 2017
Pls what is secondary rate with stanbic ibtc
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by dotcomnamename: 2:13pm On Nov 24, 2017
careerwoman:

Hello everyone.. Been a while.. so I tested the secondary market.. got 16% for 167 days at FBN.. not bad, I guess... Thanks to the gurus for keeping the thread alive.. Ciao..

16%? shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked You've won a lotto. Ask if its still available and try to subscribe more sharp sharp if you can afford it! Wow!

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Investnow2017: 2:51pm On Nov 24, 2017
careerwoman:

Hello everyone.. Been a while.. so I tested the secondary market.. got 16% for 167 days at FBN.. not bad, I guess... Thanks to the gurus for keeping the thread alive.. Ciao..

Good one smiley

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by dipoolowoo: 1:31am On Nov 25, 2017
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by WhiteChocolate(f): 5:52am On Nov 25, 2017
I just wanna share the following
I got a NGN 10,000,000 tbills at 17.3880% on the 14/09/2017. The Discount value was NGN 8,265,963.84. I needed money urgently to secure a property so I terminated prematurely on the 17/11/2017. I was told it was gonna be sold on secondary market for 15.6%. I was actually fearful because of the 25% penal charge we have always talked about here; that doesn't exist by the way or maybe I don't get how that works because I was credited with NGN 8,726,027.40. I got a total of NGN 460,063.56. I see no deductions whatsoever anywhere and the head of service support told me the penal charge of 25% did not exist. For those who had experienced that in the past could it be a bank thing? Just thinking aloud undecided

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TONY56: 6:00am On Nov 25, 2017
WhiteChocolate:
I just wanna share the following
I got a NGN 10,000,000 tbills at 17.3880% on the 14/09/2017. The Discount value was NGN 8,265,963.84. I needed money urgently to secure a property so I terminated prematurely on the 17/11/2017. I was told it was gonna be sold on secondary market for 15.6%. I was actually fearful because of the 25% penal charge we have always talked about here; that doesn't exist by the way or maybe I don't get how that works because I was credited with NGN 8,726,027.40. I got a total of NGN 460,063.56. I see no deductions whatsoever anywhere and the head of service support told me the penal charge of 25% did not exist. For those who had experienced that in the past could it be a bank thing? Just thinking aloud undecided


You probably did not follow the story from the beginning and you did not specify your bank which obviously is not UNION BANK.

The "complainant" said he did the investment with UNION BANK and the bank indicated in the transaction papers that if he terminated the Investment before maturity, he would be charged a penal fee of 25% of the upfront interests apart from other fees.

So it's a UNION BANK policy or conditions like when they say "Terms and conditions apply".

And that's why one should endeavour to read all the terms and conditions before doing any business.

You see, he like some others saw it and still went ahead to sign the deal. Some people are dogmatic in nature and will tell you that they are used to banking with a particular bank for many years and would not want to move to better bank.

That's one of the resultant effects. And unfortunately, Union is not among the top 5 banks that gets good bids at the NTB auctions. So why should an investor even do NTB with them in the first place when you can get far better from banks like Stanbic, First, Gtb, Zenith etc.

So it's a UNION BANK policy that does not apply to all banks.

Lastly, many who followed the story must have learnt a lesson from his ordeal and that's one of the objectives of this beautiful thread

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by WhiteChocolate(f): 7:02am On Nov 25, 2017
TONY56:



You probably did not follow the story from the beginning and you did not specify your bank which obviously is not UNION BANK.

The "complainant" said he did the investment with UNION BANK and the bank indicated in the transaction papers that if he terminated the Investment before maturity, he would be charged a penal fee of 25% of the upfront interests apart from other fees.

So it's a UNION BANK policy or conditions like when they say "Terms and conditions apply".

And that's why one should endeavour to read all the terms and conditions before doing any business.

You see, he like some others saw it and still went ahead to sign the deal. Some people are dogmatic in nature and will tell you that they are used to banking with a particular bank for many years and would not want to move to better bank.

That's one of the resultant effects. And unfortunately, Union is not among the top 5 banks that gets good bids at the NTB auctions. So why should an investor even do NTB with them in the first place when you can get far better from banks like Stanbic, First, Gtb, Zenith etc.

So it's a UNION BANK policy that does not apply to all banks.

Lastly, many who followed the story must have learnt a lesson from his ordeal and that's one of the objectives of this beautiful thread
Stanbic IBTC Bank. Thanks for the clarification.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by hotmomma(f): 9:10am On Nov 25, 2017
sherif4owo:


Money market all the way, because your plan is for a long term and it has less trouble.
On the other hand, Treasury bills fit better for a short term investment

Thanks a lot
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TONY56: 11:28am On Nov 25, 2017
WhiteChocolate:

Stanbic IBTC Bank. Thanks for the clarification.


No wonder.
They're the best by my own assessment especially with Primary market while First Bank is next and best in Secondary Market

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Investnow2017: 5:11pm On Nov 25, 2017
WhiteChocolate:
I just wanna share the following
I got a NGN 10,000,000 tbills at 17.3880% on the 14/09/2017. The Discount value was NGN 8,265,963.84. I needed money urgently to secure a property so I terminated prematurely on the 17/11/2017. I was told it was gonna be sold on secondary market for 15.6%. I was actually fearful because of the 25% penal charge we have always talked about here; that doesn't exist by the way or maybe I don't get how that works because I was credited with NGN 8,726,027.40. I got a total of NGN 460,063.56. I see no deductions whatsoever anywhere and the head of service support told me the penal charge of 25% did not exist. For those who had experienced that in the past could it be a bank thing? Just thinking aloud undecided

Thanks for for recounting your experience. All this helps to expand our knowledge. In this way you have answered some salient unasked questions. Good one. And thanks TONY56 for yr nice comments.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ihedioramma: 7:55pm On Nov 25, 2017
Following
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by tolajay: 8:19pm On Nov 25, 2017
Hello people,

I'd like to terminate my TB portfolio.

How do I go about this and how much will I lose for this termination?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TONY56: 9:04pm On Nov 25, 2017
tolajay:
Hello people,

I'd like to terminate my 300k TB portfolio.

How much will I lose for this termination?


Your best bet is to approach your bank because no one knows your bank nor the terms and conditions given to you when you were investing and even if you provide the informations the answers have been provided severally here. You can therefore go back to less than 10 pages back for answer to your question by doing the necessary calculations yourself

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 7:53am On Nov 27, 2017
Any News on treasury bills this morning??
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by lotannam: 7:59am On Nov 27, 2017
Pls when is the next auction date??
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 9:46am On Nov 27, 2017
150 days on secondary, zenith Bank, what's the rate this morning
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by pinkgems(f): 10:05am On Nov 27, 2017
Hi guys, please does anyone have an experience of investing in US Treasury bills?

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by dotcomnamename: 10:41am On Nov 27, 2017
Comparing Investment Products

When you compare investment products, you should consider two key factors:

Risks involved – most investments do not give you a capital guarantee. How much of your original capital could be at risk? Is there a risk of poor returns? Is there inflation risk?

Likely return – risk and return go hand in hand, so, as a general rule, the lower the risk, the lower the rate of return you should expect. With longer-term and higher-risk products, you can expect higher returns, but this is not guaranteed and you could lose some or all of your money. You need to carefully consider the effect of this on your financial situation.
You also need to consider how long your money will be tied up for.

When You Compare Investments, look At:

The minimum investment amount – can you top up your investment without having to take out a new product and pay full charges again?
The minimum recommended investment term for your money
Access to your money – are there penalties if you withdraw your cash early?
What fees and charges apply, as these reduce the value of your investment
You can get information about investment products directly from many banks, life assurance companies and investment firms. Financial advisors, including brokers and tied agents, also advise on and sell these products on behalf of the main providers.

These products are more complicated than savings and deposit accounts, so consider getting professional financial advice. Make sure any advisor you use is authorised to give investment advice and get the most from any financial advice by asking the right questions.

Before You Choose An Investment Product, Ask:

What balance of risk and return are you looking for? The higher the risk, the higher the potential returns should be.
What is the minimum recommended term of the investment? If it’s a long-term investment, can you afford to tie up my money for that long?
Will you have to pay additional charges if you withdraw your money early?
What are the charges? How much would your investment have to grow each year to cover charges?
How much of your original investment is secure, if any? If the product includes guarantees, what exactly do they cover and what conditions are attached?
How much tax will you have to pay on your return?
Could you get a more definite return elsewhere for the same lump sum and term?
What happens to your investment if you die?
How can you find out how your investment is performing?

WHY YOU SHOULD CONSIDER INVESTING IN TREASURY BILLS

(1) Investing in Treasury Bills is RISK-FREE and repayment is guaranteed from the Federal Government at the end of maturity period.
(2) Treasury Bills enables you earn your interest upfront and the interests earned from T-Bills are tax-exempt, when juxtaposed with those of fixed deposits.
(3) Treasury Bills can be used as collateral for loan.
(4) If you are in urgent need of the funds you invested, you may sell your T-bills before it matures
(5) If you do not have a bid rate or are not sure of a rate, you can have your bank choose a rate for you. However, there is no guarantee that the bank rate chosen will be the best.

Finally, Investors looking for passive investment in the country can sit back and make their money work for them by investing in Treasury Bills.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by dipoolowoo: 1:54pm On Nov 27, 2017

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Kingstel(m): 3:58pm On Nov 27, 2017
I need a business minded person...

In Abuja...


Contact me.

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