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NORSIYK:
Ok, we are following the footsteps and teachings of christ, there's no where written in the Bible that christ taught his followers to tithe and observe harvest

If you are not convenient with tithe, harvest n others, then don't do it. But don't day it's wrong or it's a sin

Why bring topics that will only polarize Christians here?

BlackAce31:
Another form of extortion in church. That's how u will plant 50k and harvest 2plates of takeaway rice and chicken with one chivita (thats if the church is considerate). Something u can get for 2k. Worse is that some churches after planting will still do watering. Nonsense. They should have added weeding, clearing and ridging. Shey is money dey want to make.

It's funny how Catholics shy away from this phenomenon going on in Catholic Church, only to be pointing hands at Pentecostal churches.
People were making noise about that Pastor Adeboye video, meanwhile such stuffs also happens during Harvest period in Catholic Churches.
Catholic priests are getting worse because no one is raising any alarm about what they are doing because people are preoccupied with Pentecostal issues.

NORSIYK:
The old law was practiced during the time of Moses, and it was faulty that is why christ came with the new law, which is what we ought to practice

The old law wasn't faulty, people corrupted it and it was bulky tho.
Christ came to make it easier for us to observe the law not to abolish it.

optional1:
Harvest is going on right now in my Church..
Will comment after every every...

it's going on in mine too at the moment

mostly in catholic church
during bazar
u wee see them drinking beer,smoking cigarettes and s.k.
even dia reverend father drinks beer on the high table.
too catholics
na faaji time.
see dem playing bet with cards
scammin ppl wit bogus prices by selling stuffs like cokers.tv.going going gone kind of auction
u wee see tske away rice.40k
sponsor of the harvest go dey feel like king
playing bet games with ps
right inside church premises
all manner of evil

Chevalier:
The old law wasn't faulty, people corrupted it and it was bulky tho.
Christ came to make it easier for us to observe the law not to abolish it.

The old law was faulty read
Hebrews 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

Chevalier:
If you are not convenient with tithe, harvest n others, then don't do it. But don't day it's wrong or it's a sin

Not being convenient with tithe and harvest, but rather doing what christ told us to do

TonyCizzy:
Yes!!!
Though "harvest" is approved by the scriptures... But is "Bazaar" biblical ??
Opinions please!!!

Its wrong not scriptural, Jesus frowned against buying and Selling in the Church

NORSIYK:
Yes, because we aren't under the old law rather the new law.

then scrap old testament from your bible... mtweew non sense

NORSIYK:
Harvest is just like tithing, they were practiced in the old testament. Anybody that believes in Jesus shouldn't indulge himself or herself in such things.

hmm... I totally disagree with you brother.... Jesus said I came not to abolish the Old Testament or law but to fulfill it..






Go read your Bible well....

Matthew 21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,
21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.

That's exactly what they do when doing their harvest and bazaar

Luke 20:46 Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;
20:47 Which devour widows' houses, and for a shew make long prayers: the same shall receive greater damnation.

I will always condemn the way this people do things

smartpyzee:
hmm... I totally disagree with you brother.... Jesus said I came not to abolish the Old Testament or law but to fulfill it..






Go read your Bible well....

I guess this is from Quran
Hebrews 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

hiilinx:
then scrap old testament from your bible... mtweew non sense

Old testament is for reference, isn't meant for us

vivie01:
Bazaar and harvest have their roots in the bible but bazaar had long been eradicated by Orthodox churches, the set of denominations that are engaged in such (Pentecostals don't do bazaar) because its perceived to have been annulled with the coming of the new gospel.

It's seen as a way of buying and selling in the church which Jesus himself was against. He was against it because he chased those buying and selling out of the temple and said His father's house is a house of prayer and not a den of thieves. Matt 21:12-13

. I u shd shut ur miserable dirty mouth and leave d orthodox do there thing instead of sayin trashes

NORSIYK:
I guess this is from Quran
Hebrews 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

do you have Matthew in your Bible? ... Better still let me quote from my Quran





Matthew 5:17...New International Version
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

Abeg we never finish that of tithe matter o

Harvest and Bazaar is mainly the end of year thanksgiving and celebration in the catholic church. Because of its less emphasis on tithing, this is majorly the opportunity to raise funds for major church projects.
It is also a time to socialise, eat and drink together and thank God for the blessings of the whole year. Almost every catholic looks forward to that day. I dont know about your faith, but this practise is a modern day adaptation of the original tithing instruction as originally recorded in the early part of the bible (I have forgotten).

Those food cooked and sold (subsidised) are purely donated by various people. The atmosphere is usually celebratory.

I dont see anything wrong with harvest and bazaar at all.

2shure:
mostly in catholic church
during bazar
u wee see them drinking beer,smoking cigarettes and s.k.
even dia reverend father drinks beer on the high table.
too catholics
na faaji time.
see dem playing bet with cards
scammin ppl wit bogus prices by selling stuffs like cokers.tv.going going gone kind of auction
u wee see tske away rice.40k
sponsor of the harvest go dey feel like king
playing bet games with ps
right inside church premises
all manner of evil

Softly,, softly dey lie o, bro. I'm no more a Catholic, but I grew up as one and attended Catholic churches all my life and all your nonsensical claims up there are either fabricated or distorted. So you can quit peddling the anti-Catholic horseshiit they brainwash you with in your Pentecostal den of money-hungry thieves.
And what the hell do you think a charity auction is meant for? Did the people buying auctioned items in church for several times the market prices tell you they don't know the real price of what they're buying? The very idea behind it is to generate money for charity or church projects and those buying those items are donating the money to the church. It's all done in good fun and partakers feel blessed to do it.

Unlike the greedy Pentecostal thieving church leaders who basically arm-twist and threaten their members into giving everything from tithes to "first fruits" and every other scam they devise, there is absolutely no coercion or compulsion to participate in the yearly harvest/bazaar activities. Growing up as a child, during Bazaar, my parents just bought snacks and food (at cheap prices too), allowed us to play on the rides and bouncing castles for kids that the church erects, and then we went home.

Gammfreak:
Catholics are the only denomination that gets it right with harvest and bazaar per annum not all these fake pastors

Bazaar is a fund raising gimmick .. nothing more and the harvest that 8s practices in your church has no scriptural support

Catholic and orthodox are the ones involved in those hsrevet of bringing goods, both preparers and raw and selling same at very exorbitant prices to people while also engaging in raffle draws and gambling

NORSIYK:
The old law was faulty read
Hebrews 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

The second covenant came not to abolish the first but to make the first easier to decipher.
Remember when Jesus simplified the 10 commandments thereby making it 3, the rest 7 wasn't abolished but was embedded in those 3.

2shure:
mostly in catholic church
during bazar
u wee see them drinking beer,smoking cigarettes and s.k.
even dia reverend father drinks beer on the high table.
too catholics
na faaji time.
see dem playing bet with cards
scammin ppl wit bogus prices by selling stuffs like cokers.tv.going going gone kind of auction
u wee see tske away rice.40k
sponsor of the harvest go dey feel like king
playing bet games with ps
right inside church premises
all manner of evil

This your lies no get part 2. I wonder why someone like you will sit down just to generate wicked lies in order to disparage another person or group. There is God ooo

watchwoman:
it's going on in mine too at the moment

Happy Harvest day dear..
May we live to witness a great harvest in His Sanctuary..

Please let the Christian Mothers have fun!!

bjay13:
. I u shd shut ur miserable dirty mouth and leave d orthodox do there thing instead of sayin trashes

Can't you guys just do without insulting and passing derogatory remarks? SMH!

You could have done well by explaining the topic from your own perspective for us all to learn.

Learn to be courteous!!!

2shure:
mostly in catholic church
during bazar
u wee see them drinking beer,smoking cigarettes and s.k.
even dia reverend father drinks beer on the high table.
too catholics
na faaji time.
see dem playing bet with cards
scammin ppl wit bogus prices by selling stuffs like cokers.tv.going going gone kind of auction
u wee see tske away rice.40k
sponsor of the harvest go dey feel like king
playing bet games with ps
right inside church premises
all manner of evil

Did you see or hearsay?

MERCHANDISE :making money from people in the name of Religion,thiefry if u like

in seat of wisdom
catholic church
u.i
ibadan

sacluxisback:
Did you see or hearsay?

Yes harvest is bAbilcal

Catholics initially don't pay tithe because Harvest and Bazaar represents how tithe is to be paid and used (Deuteronomy 14:22 to end.) . But because of pressure from congregants they succumb to it.