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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 9:54pm On Dec 08, 2017
krattoss:
I didn't know coaching is this easy until I came to this thread grin grin

Everybody with its own formation,analysis and preferences grin grin

I can't just stop laughing grin

You shouldn't look down on people here, some of the people here are actually coaches, many are close to some coaches (Past and present ) others are scouts, many are very knowledgeable and exposed to the science and technicalities involved. You won't know nada because they don't blow their own trumpets often.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:55pm On Dec 08, 2017
lexyman:


your fingers were too fast ... grin grin grin grin

I saw that comment when I was still under a ban and so had to bear it until I was unbanned. Went back to dig it up as soon as I was released to comment.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 9:56pm On Dec 08, 2017
OMANBALA1:


Are you gonna be using Shehu and Idowu as wing backs or what? If so, how well do you think they can adjust in that role....Remember we have tried Shehu there and it was disastrous.
so you will play elderson as a wing back....?
someone who could not make a simple cross all through the World cup qualifers...

please bro...I rather we play Aina there.
elderson should just sit on the bench all through the tourney...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 9:57pm On Dec 08, 2017
junnyjake:

Over welcome, na him DE worry you so o..
wetin be DE grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 9:58pm On Dec 08, 2017
Icon4s:


Na me be coach? Why you come dey beg me? Abeg o..... hahahaha

I want Omanbala1 to come and explain to us how playing Shehu as a Wing back was a disaster.

Did he even watch the match?
Lol....just that ebuehi was more lively against Argentina...and he brought more urgency to our attack....
It seems the dude is good wit his passes and crosses too....

had mikel lay off that ball to him...I bet it would have resorted in something catastrophic....I mean against Argentina.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by whizola: 9:58pm On Dec 08, 2017
And about iheanacho he is not the on striker having a poor control ability, lukaku has a bad control, but doesn't mean the end of the world for him. I hate the way will write off players

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 9:59pm On Dec 08, 2017
whizola:
And about iheanacho he is not the on striker having a poor control ability, lukaku has a bad control, but doesn't mean the end of the world for him. I hate the way will write off players
nobody is writing him off...
just an observation on areas he need to work on....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lexyman(m): 10:01pm On Dec 08, 2017
Icon4s:


It is because they have been playing against European teams who also play organized football.

I saw their coach the other day making mouth that they can beat us because we are not organized. I just laughed.

Let them face us first and we will disorganize them with our unpredictable style of play.

Our team is unpredictable. That is a major strength. Some opponents see us as a team which likes to build attack slowly while some say we are quick in building attack.

Go look at all our WC qualifiers we approached each game almost differently.

The versatility of our players did not help matters for our opponents. As you are planning to stop Iwobi from doing damage from the wings, he starts from a more central position. As you are planning to stop Etebo from the CMF he starts from the AMF position. Moses can initiate attacks from both the left , Right and centre. Maybe that is why the Icelanders see us a not organized meanwhile that versatility is our strength.

Argentina are still Wondering how we managed to beat them in that friendly.


Etebo has really dropped form , same with Onazi, i hope they come back to that work horse we know them to be . SE will become a case study come next world-cup ...somany analyst willcome up with different write up ... its glaring this will happen .

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 10:04pm On Dec 08, 2017
Humility017:

so you will play elderson as a wing back....?
someone who could not make a simple cross all through the World cup qualifers...

please bro...I rather we play Aina there.
elderson should just sit on the bench all through the tourney...


When I am not drunk. Left for me Elderson will sit on the bench.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by whizola: 10:06pm On Dec 08, 2017
Pls will you stop judging the guy by his previous world cup performances that's about 3years ago mehn, spare the guy some slack . How many games did he even play in the world cup?, he has grown as a player. And about is dribbles, well he once had the most completed dribbles in a league season

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:06pm On Dec 08, 2017
Spain flaunting their world cup(away jersey) at Copa Lagos

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:07pm On Dec 08, 2017
lexyman:



Etebo has really dropped form , same with Onazi, i hope they come back to that work horse we know them to be . SE will become a case study come next world-cup ...somany analyst willcome up with different write up ... its glaring this will happen .

Onazi dropped form How??

Onazi was easily one of Nigeria's best players in the game against Cameroon.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lexyman(m): 10:12pm On Dec 08, 2017
tbaba1234:


Onazi dropped form How??

Onazi was easily one of Nigeria's best players in the game against Cameroon.


The Onazi i saw was a shadow of him self , you need to watch other games , and dont judge by that cameroun match , most of the players performed above average in that match .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 10:12pm On Dec 08, 2017
Icon4s:


Na me be coach? Why you come dey beg me? Abeg o..... hahahaha

I want Omanbala1 to come and explain to us how playing Shehu as a Wing back was a disaster.

Did he even watch the match?

I watched the game and Shehu was ineffective on that wing. Maybe disastrous was too harsh but he did do well, unlike Ebuehi that nailed it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:13pm On Dec 08, 2017
lexyman:



The Onazi i saw was a shadow of him self , you need to watch other games , and dont judge by that cameroun match , most of the players performed above average in that match .

Onazi was outstanding in both legs...Outstanding
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:20pm On Dec 08, 2017
OMANBALA1:


When I am not drunk. Left for me Elderson will sit on the bench.
well said....we should never allow sentiment becloud our reason...
If not that he took part in the qualifiers...he won't have even make the world cup party...

I remember the latter matches during this qualifers...he was like an eyesore I think against Cameroon...in duala.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:20pm On Dec 08, 2017
CityJoe:


Nsofor has managed to find his best form in recent weeks hitting the back of the net five times in his last three games.

I guess you skipped the bolded and continued hammering on three goals. Nsofor was brilliant for West Ham.
He obviously hit a purple patch but couldn't sustain the form. If a forward player scored just 3 goals and zero assists in 25 games, he obviously flopped and deserves to loose his place in the team.
Alluding that he lost his place in the team because he's Nigerian is beyond absurd.
Some defensive midfielders contribute more than 3 goals and zero assists in a season.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 10:22pm On Dec 08, 2017
Humility017:

I remember keshi dropped him for G rubben and many of his players...prior the world cup in 2014...he was in the provusonal list...

I pray he stay fit...I will want him over etebo...


Am still saying it,instead of dropping etebo for Joel,I would rada substitute a slot to accommodate d two

Or better still,ogu won't go grin,


Etebo on his gud day, its better Dan any midfielder asyde Mikel(DT Algeria home match is an example,so versatile wink



BTW,AGU STILL dey too na,d guy fit go,cos rohr like d guy.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:23pm On Dec 08, 2017
CityJoe:


“West Ham is too big to play in the lower league. I want to apologise to the fans because they don’t deserve a championship treatment. It is still like a bad dream,” Nsofor said.

According to the Super Eagles forward who was loaned from Malaga, the club forfeited its top status as a result of several factors on and off the field.

“Too many things went wrong, from the board, to the coaches and the players. We had a good team but our coaching crew did not know how to use the type of players at its disposal. The coaches were just incapable”.

He said that Grant decided to limit his role after he came back from the month long injury he got in the 1-0 loss at Birmingham and gave more time to other players.

"I trained hard after I came back from the injury but the coach and his back room staff felt I was not good to start. It is quite frustrating. The fans thought I should be playing, but it is the manager who decides and you can’t challenge him on that count,” Nsofor said.

http://westhamfreeforum.com/nsofor-blames-grant-for-west-ham-s-relegation-t1544.html
Fans are fickle. They can say whatever they like. Just like you said not so long ago that Kelechi was better than Mbappe.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:26pm On Dec 08, 2017
elyte89:



Am still saying it,instead of dropping etebo for Joel,I would rada substitute a slot to accommodate d two

Or better still,ogu won't go grin,


Etebo on his gud day, its better Dan any midfielder asyde Mikel(DT Algeria home match is an example,so versatile wink



BTW,AGU STILL dey too na,d guy fit go,cos rohr like d guy.


mikel agu is off...if Joel obi stays fit...
he had his chances but fail to impress...

i believe Joel obi just need just need an opportunity to prove his worth...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:27pm On Dec 08, 2017
OMANBALA1:


I watched the game and Shehu was ineffective on that wing. Maybe disastrous was too harsh but he did do well, unlike Ebuehi that nailed it.

If Rohr should line up a 4 defenders set up, would u rather he starts Ebuehi or Shehu at RB?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:29pm On Dec 08, 2017
whizola:
Pls will you stop judging the guy by his previous world cup performances that's about 3years ago mehn, spare the guy some slack . How many games did he even play in the world cup?, he has grown as a player. And about is dribbles, well he once had the most completed dribbles in a league season
you are missing the point. Victor Moses is good at dribbling, it is conspicuous and no one is trying to gainsay that. The point is that how many of those dribbles led to goals and chances created? at the world cup, you may meet teams with good defensive setup that will make your “excessive dribbles” not to count by not yielding any goals. Ever since he recuperated from injury, he has been unplayable in the wing back role. He recorded an assist and earn his club a penalty on Saturday and on Tuesday against A. Madrid he was a delight to watch. He created two good chances and caused the Madrid's defense problems. He did all these playing as a wing back. And I believe that with the freedom he enjoys when playing for the SE, he will put up better performances when going forward as a wing back. And also allowing Mikel-Iwobi-Iheanacho attacking combination to go uninterrupted.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:31pm On Dec 08, 2017
tbaba1234:


Onazi was outstanding in both legs...Outstanding

I wonder when people say these things about Onazi.

The only time I will not play Onazi is if Mikel goes into the CM position, which is not so likely.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:31pm On Dec 08, 2017
Icon4s:


If Rohr should line up a 4 defenders set up, would u rather he starts Ebuehi or Shehu at RB?
Ebuehi should start as a WB if the coach is to play with the 3-5-2 formation. And Shehu as a RB should start if the coach is to approach the game with a 4 man defensive formation.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:35pm On Dec 08, 2017
blueto:
Ebuehi should start as a WB if the coach is to play with the 3-5-2 formation. And Shehu should start if the coach is to approach the game with a 4 man defence formation.

You are also among those of us that believe Moses should feature as a forward and not as a WB.

...still waiting for Omanbala1's response
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:38pm On Dec 08, 2017
Icon4s:


You are also among those of us that believe Moses should feature as a forward and not as a WB.

...still waiting for Omanbala1's response
I believe Moses should feature as wing back in a 3-5-2 formation and Ebuehi should play second fiddle to him as a right wing back.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 10:43pm On Dec 08, 2017
Icon4s:


It is Iwobi that I recommend would oin the midfield when on the offensive. I only used that Zmabia game to show we did it using Iheanacho for that role.


See what I would recommend:

When on the offensive:

..........Iwobi....Ihenacho

Moses..........Mikel....................Simon
Ndidi

Idowu...Balogun...Ekong...Shehu


When we are Chasing the ball or when the midfielders are not getting the ball well enough to the forwards, Iwobi drops a little deep:

......................Iheanacho
moses..............Iwobi.............Simon

............Ndidi............Mikel

That is why I said it will be a switch between 4-4-2 and 4-5-1 without necessarily making any substitutions.

Ogu and Onazi are not on my starting list.
Nice list though but I don't think just a single DM is a good idea. Even Rohr has never and will never go that way. two DMs and an attacking midfielder in a 3-5-2, 4-2-3-1, or 4-3-3 is the most esseintial content and element of thebmoderb day football midfield.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:55pm On Dec 08, 2017
forgiveness:



Leon Balogun.
Troost Ekong
Awaziem
Echiejile

These are confirmed players going to the WC.

I will prefer we go to the WC with 7 of these players if Idowu is included because he can play as a CB and DMF too. And we also have Ndidi who can as well play comfortable on the CB position. Awaziem is also capable of play as a DMF.

I think Rohr should test them in those role in friendlies.

In my own humble assessment, we shouldn't take more than a maximum of 8 defenders as one our midfielders can comfortably play as a centre-back (Ndidi). Considering all the names we have, I would say baring injuries or loss of form, the names Forgiveness has put forward are almost sure-bets. Echiejile is I believe the only true LB, the others are kind of jack of all trades, versatile players. I would also pick Omeruo ahead of Agbo because he showed us against Argentina that he hasn't actually lost it and if we play like we did against the Argies, we would need a reliable back up for the three CBs. Unhappy as I am typing this, I think one of Shehu, Ebuhei, Aina or Idowu would have to be dropped. I would be shocked if it's Shehu so the axe is in Rohr's hand and he can swing it as he deems fit.

My list of 8 defenders would be
Ekong
Leon
Awaziem
Shehu
Echejile
Omeruo
Ebuhei
Idowu/Aina

I will say we need to see more of Idowu before we can actually say he's the best since sliced bread. Judging by Aina's first game, he wowed us all and then in the 2nd and 3rd we started seeing his weaknesses. Who knows what will happen to Tyronne and Idowu in their next games too.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by CityJoe: 11:01pm On Dec 08, 2017
goldfish80:

Fans are fickle. They can say whatever they like. Just like you said not so long ago that Kelechi was better than Mbappe.

Childish jibe. I have repeated my point over and over again. Kelechi Iheanacho is one of the most lethal finishers around. What Mbappe and co. have ahead of him is more all round play. It took me time to decode it, I am willing to learn. Now I get it. I keep studying Gabriel Jesus to understand what Guardiola wants.

As for the finishing, I rate Iheanacho ahead of them but I want Nacho to work hard to add more to his game.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 11:03pm On Dec 08, 2017
CityJoe:


Childish jibe. I have repeated my point over and over again. Kelechi Iheanacho is one of the most lethal finishers around. What Mbappe and co. have ahead of him is more all round play. It took me time to decode it, I am willing to learn. Now I get it. I keep studying Gabriel Jesus to understand what Guardiola wants.

As for the finishing, I rate Iheanacho ahead of them but I want Nacho to work hard to add more to his game.

Isn't Joe Good again? City means Man about Town (MAT) so I don't understand o. shocked
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by CityJoe: 11:04pm On Dec 08, 2017
whizola:
Pls will you stop judging the guy by his previous world cup performances that's about 3years ago mehn, spare the guy some slack . How many games did he even play in the world cup?, he has grown as a player. And about is dribbles, well he once had the most completed dribbles in a league season

I doubt anyone is arguing about Victor Moses ability. There is no debate in that. He is one of the gifted players in the game today. However, the criticism lies in his level of discipline when he dorns the green white green jersey of the Super Eagles.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by CityJoe: 11:05pm On Dec 08, 2017
Taliban:


Isn't Joe Good again? City means Man about Town (MAT) so I don't understand o. shocked

I got ban trying to post some articles about Nsofor's impact at West Ham. By tomorrow, TheGoodJoe will be back.

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