₦airaland Forum

timesup234:
There are more people being robbed, kidnapped and killed in America than Nigeria. You guys are truly under a brainwashing circle. Nairaland is filled with minors who are just starting life. No sane person in his/her mid 30's will type some of the garbage I see here. Only brainwashed mofos believe success has anything to do with location. America gives you zero chance of making it like everywhere in the world. You must create your success path yourself. This is a thread of the dumbest set of individuals

Lamexx:
Liar!!!. 10 million cannot build a filling station.

emmygzy:
Zero chance? Are you kidding me? You must be a deluded person. Why did your government or people like dangote likes borrowing from foreign banks and lenders? Its because the loans are easy to get, with very low interest and with long term duration. I was checking Australian national welfare sites and I saw lots of welfare packages for the youths, unemployed and the elderly. Youths that wants to start business can easily get loans without any interest and collateral and to be paid back in years. Also person that wants to go to school and doesn't have money can secure loans and after he graduated and gets job can pay back the loans, in such a way that it won't affect him at all, eg, collecting 100k salary and then be paying like 3k as loan repayment. Is there such in nigeria? Why did your politicians send their children to school abroad? Why did your president travels abroad to treat himself? Why not Nigeria? If you graduate in those countries and haven't gotten job, do you know that you will be given unemployment benefit? The systems abroad is designed to help their citizens make it easily an get whatever they desire easily. Nigeria in other words, makes live a living hell for its citizens. People have business ideas but there's no capital, some people wish to go to school but theres no means for them, if they had student loans like those countries, and they can also work while schooling like those countries, don't you think they will go? I have friends that wrote GRE exams and passed and was given funding in USA universities and they're even working while in school. Which nigerian universities can give Nigerians that opportunity not to talk of giving a foreigner. Please don't glorify the hell called Nigeria. Even your leaders doesn't care about the country. They do their things outside the country.

RighteousI:
you believe mingling with the rich alone will protect him? what of Evans, the billionaire kidnapper? many of the rich he will meet in Abuja could be kidnappers, armed robbers, cult members and fetish people, they are also as dangerous as the hungry ones. also, how will he protect himself from the hungry ones when those hungry ones invade his house with pump actions and ak47s? or when those hungry ones spray the car he is driving with bullets?
Zoogeria is a zoo, only a monkey will want to return to it.

timesup234:
Are people this dumb? How come not a single poster here knows Americans are suffering more than Nigerians? 75% of Americans will die completely broke and in debt. If Americans were asked to advance 6 months rent over 280 million of them will sleep on the street and if their paycheck is delayed for one week then 65% of them will sleep inside the gutter. Americans that cant boast of 400usd in an emergency you dumb idiots are trying to compare to Nigerians where an average serious worker can save up 500k easily. The journey of Nigerians to America have been one of complete failure, not a single one have made it genuinely. 85% of Americans dont even have 30kusd in cash. Everyone here sound dumb

Abagworo:
How easy I made money as a fresh graduate makes me keep wondering why people are still saying there's no money in Nigeria. There's money in this country as it is a virgin land with little competition. The worst thing you can do to yourself is to carry file around looking for jobs when you can create one for yourself.

Wizard999:
lol. Who told you he has one leg in the U.K.? Because he went there for treatment? Where was he living before he became president? Have you ever heard of any former president that lives in the U.K.? You see, you guys need to stop deceiving our people.. why are you hell bent on trying to get people to hate their motherland?..you are no way better than the people that live here. get it into your head..people like you have sold their father's land and properties. You better remain there. We don't need lazy people here.

tonididdy:
wetin u dey se?

9jaDoc:
Guess how many of them will die in Nigeria? Zero unless they go broke. Buhari even stopped by UK on his way from UN. Why do u think people like Achebe relocated permanently to US? The system has built-in support and consideration for the aged, disabled, infirm and handicapped that Nigeria simply does not.

Ugosample:
This one is a big fool o

Americans suffering more than Nigerians?

This guy is deranged; D

timesup234:
Have you been to the United States? I will pass. I only argue with people who have lived in the United States and you don't sound like one. You call Nigeria a hell hole when American citizens are the most depressed people on earth. A system based on credit isn't helping you but enlsaving you that's why 67% of Americans are one paycheck away from living on the street and over 70% can't come up with a mere $400 in an emergency. When we talk financial success even Libya has a upper hand than America, almost all Americans will die broke and in debt. The United States of America is one overhyped shithole

Wizard999:
fuk off!

temitope06:
All this bickering and time wasting arguments, blind patriotism, lies and deceits, y'all fail to notice that the op is only moving back because he has issues with his US status and doesn't have a choice for now. You think if he has his green card he would ever consider relocating permanently to Nigeria?

Lamexx:
You comment shows you have not even crossed the border. To be sincere, America has made life too easy for its citizen that they choose to be lazy. Yes you heard me. A large percentage of the black population in America are lazy. A large percentage of the statistics you quoted there are lazy people mostly blacks who are either drug addicts, depend on the government for food stamp and social welfare. If you are smart enough, you will not be in debt, depressed or broke.

Lamexx:
You comment shows you have not even crossed the border. To be sincere, America has made life too easy for its citizen that they choose to be lazy. Yes you heard me. A large percentage of the black population in America are lazy. A large percentage of the statistics you quoted there are lazy people mostly blacks who are either drug addicts, depend on the government for food stamp and social welfare. If you are smart enough, you will not be in debt, depressed or broke.

londoner:
But most people on food stamps in the US are actually White. This is factual from actual scientific studies.

You talk from stereotypes and it's quite dangerous.

Wizard999:
Nigeria's gdp is 32 times larger than that of Senegal. No sane Nigerian should even think of residing in Senegal. A country that is 100% controlled by France. Infact our currency commands more respect and value than their franc.. My brother are you trying to insult me?

erico2k2:
Bross U go there or not ? ?izza zimple kwestion

timesup234:
Have you been to the United States? I will pass. I only argue with people who have lived in the United States and you don't sound like one. You call Nigeria a hell hole when American citizens are the most depressed people on earth. A system based on credit isn't helping you but enlsaving you that's why 67% of Americans are one paycheck away from living on the street and over 70% can't come up with a mere $400 in an emergency. When we talk financial success even Libya has a upper hand than America, almost all Americans will die broke and in debt. The United States of America is one overhyped shithole

londoner:
But most people on food stamps in the US are actually White. This is factual from actual scientific studies.

You talk from stereotypes and it's quite dangerous.

BluFlyBoy:
I plan on coming back with about 30000 USD and getting myself land/property to my name, complete NYSC, see what the job market is like as well as concurrently starting a one or two provisions stores. Slowly expand on that, with the end goal to become a distributor at the national level.

timesup234:
Whites are even suffering more than blacks in terms of percentage since they are the majority. The days of illusions are over. Most Americans are in financial disaster as they aged. Raising $400 is a big problem for Americans. Nothing was made easy for them rather they are being enslaved that's why majority of them lose their homes and cars everyday. Financially American citizens can never be compared to Nigerians. In America you own nothing, every single one of them are in debt, even if you don't carry lots of credit card your home is not fully owned. people pay everything in Nigeria is cash. Nigerian citizens are richer than Americans. The wealth of America belongs to the 1% jewish criminals, everyone else is suffering like a third world citizen financially

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/05/25/the-shocking-number-of-americans-who-cant-cover-a-400-expense/

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/most-americans-are-one-paycheck-away-from-the-street-2015-01-07

LordAdam16:
For factory job.

Which is embarrassingly low because in China, with all the population and cheap labor, factory jobs are over $1000/mo.

You make valid points, but I could slam you for the same reasons you're slamming others.

NIGERIA is a sh*thole. That is a fact.

That you're able to make it. Or that less than 10% make a decent salary does not make it any less than a sh*thole.

Most people are not living in Nigeria, they're surviving.

There's a reason why America is called the land of opportunity and the West welcome immigrants (well, until recently); while here in Nigeria we emphasize on connections. Whoever has connections in any part of the globe will get better opportunities. Simple as!

However, the average person would not always have these connections. That's why people go to school (or some higher learning institution) to get vital skills and improve themselves so they can get jobs based on merit and are able to live comfortably.

Trust me, if you can make $6000 annually in Nigeria, you can make $60k annually in the West. You say you do freelancing and you think that's some big deal.

Well, let's see. In the West, one could buy a new laptop with a credit card, or pay in installments. Get grandfathered in for cheap with 4G internet (not mobile broadband) or go to a coffee shop and use WiFi for free. Electricity is cheap and constant. Rent is the only big issue, but you can stay with a roommate or go live downtown. And here's the important fact, rather than rely solely on platforms that could axe your account anytime, you actually have the leverage of contacting local businesses and entrepreneurs locally for better paying gigs.

So, you see. If you can hustle hard to make it in Nigeria as a freelancer, it wouldn't even be a struggle for you in the West. And if all else fails, there's always the option to flip burgers at McDonalds or sell popcorn at Target for $11/hour. And have a second and even third job to boost your finance.

Can someone make it in Nigeria? Yes. But let's not mislead people to believe it'll only require the same effort it'd take to make it outside the shores. It'd take considerably more. Unless, you're deeply connected or extremely lucky. To be absolutely clear, that's not how things should be. Running a business in Nigeria is insane.

And here's the most important factor I've not seen mentioned in this thread, life in Nigeria. I hate it. I can't even bring myself to read some stories on NL anymore. I don't keep up with the #EndSARS campaign on Twitter because the stories shared by fellow Nigerians make me sick. Literally. And to know nothing will be done about it just makes me more bitter.

This is a country where the Airforce killed innocent refugees apparently by mistake and nothing happened. Nothing came out of the investigation and nobody is bothered. Nobody out of almost 200m people is bothered. Every week women are raped, farmers are killed in my home state by certain untouchable people and it doesn't even make the news. Even if it does, we are all content with displaying momentary sadness on social media, and practically 60 seconds later we don't give a sh*t. No protest.

People die and live like dogs and no one gives a sh*t. Not even the deeply religious people.

It's like we've become conditioned to barbarism, we think this is all life can offer, and the only thing that matters to us is the size of our bank accounts. Because deep down we all know it's the only thing stopping us from being bundled accidentally into a prison and left to rot for a fabricated crime. Or to protect yourself from criminals. Or to give yourself a semblance of a normal life and numb yourself to the harsh truth that is the Nigerian way of life.

I don't think you've ever sat down and thought about how many people go missing in Nigeria daily. The skulls being sold for 2k, who were those people? Someone earlier today was drawing attention to the fact that her brother had been missing for 7 years after been taken by SARS. That could be you. Taken, killed, dumped in a bush or in a river. EOD. Case closed. No missing person's report. If there is, it's just another file or name. The killers will be out the next day scouting for their next victim. At the end of the month, they're paid by a government that claims to serve you. Unless you are connected to a top politician or a top businessman or clergy or let's just say a high ranking member of the society.

I honestly cannot respect anyone who looks at this Nigeria, where laws aren't worth sh*t, and says it's a good place to live in because some happen to have more money and live in gated communities in Lekki or Asokoro or in high-brow neighborhoods. It feels like it's a living hazard to stay in Nigeria as an average Nigerian.

Making more money doesn't make your life better. It just allows you to game a system rigged to cater to the highest bidder to the detriment of the average Joe and Jane. And you don't mind and you don't care. Because you know it's either you or them.

I know for most Nigerians, none of this matters. You could care less if Dangote's trailer mows down everyone in your street, as long as you're the only one who makes it out alive. It'd make for a good testimony on Sunday. Every other person be damned. No one would call for the Dangote driver to be prosecuted or even follow it up. No one would call for stricter implementation of speed limits. You wouldn't. We'd just go ahead hoping we keep cheating death and unfortunate situations until our luck runs out.

Such that the same issues that killed our fathers are the same issues killing our children. No improvements.

And you think that's living the good life? With your 400 f*cking dollars. You think it's worth it to expose yourself to the dangers and stress of living in this bloody country for how much? I mean you've practically priced your quality of life. And I've not even started talking about healthcare, government accountability, lifestyle compatibility and the likes.

It's a long read, and I salute your patriotism, but it is seriously misplaced.

-Lord

Fidelmalek:
How are the slaves in Libya feeling?
Compare it to Nigeria and draw your conclusions...
Why do you want to come back to this hell hole?
Or are you facing deportation
On a lighter side though, Nigeria is not worth coming back to...
It's sad... Very sad that our nation is subjected to this justifiable ridicule...

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For those quoting me, won't you run naked all the way from here to South Africa, if presented the opportunity? � � �� � �
Hypocrisy at it's peak...You all are trying to paint Nigeria good but won't mind getting smuggled by canoe to Italy..



You can actually enjoy Nigeria if you come back but if and only if your father is a Nigerian political thief.

Lamexx:
I liked your post because there was truth in some of your assertion. I tell people, avoid credit card and you will be fine in America because the moment you have an irredeemable credit score in America, you realize how bad America can be. As a rule, I don't buy what I don't have immediate cash for. that has kept me going so far. If I want to buy a car, I'll save for it.

9jaDoc:
It is not about some mythical "making it". It is about living and enjoying your life within a system that WORKS and is reliable. Just about every person you read was shot by police in US their families are paid millions. In Nigeria it ends there. U can be rich in US with no fear of being kidnapped by anybody. Not so in Nig. Drainage, garbage disposal, food and drug inspections, prescription system, hospitals, emergency rooms, universities, etc. Everything WORKS and is well equipped. Why trying to compare two things that are not comparable. Not only is the system in 9ja broken, I honestly think it is beyond repair. Just being honest.

9jaDoc:
U folks make no sense. How does having bad credit make America bad for u? It simply means u can't borrow money (which is the state u r already in by choice and which is the state of most in Nigeria)

BluFlyBoy:
Of course I do, but I'm still asking, I want to get as much information as possible. I'm not trying to offend anyone, I just looking for know what people are feeling.

Wizard999:
well, according to former CIA director, the CIA reads more than 5 million tweets a day.... I would not be surprised if you are one of them. I am also aware that some agents are regularly sent to Lagos and Abuja.. I have met one of them before.. I would not go further..they operate via u.s embassy. Don't ask me who I am. I would like to remain anonymous. And also loyal to my unit.. Incase you doubt me, you can go and ask your brother Edward Snowden.