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How will u when you monitoring proceeds from your educational institutions and tites

chloride6:
Why is it that this their blessing is only visible in poor poverty ravished countries ?

It is clear you have sold your conscience to money

stop saying what you don't know. when I read through posts of many Nigerians on here, I tell clearly ignorance is one of our problems. Read on pastors over the world, you will see how blessed they are. It has been like that ever since. Paul even talked about it.

Carry on with the good work Sir, the Lord is your strength. Let all the Idol worshipers saying Nonsense about you keep it up. You'll keep on soaring from Glory to Glory while all your critics will keep on going down in agony and pains until they finally meet their destruction. Amen.

Statsocial:
This man has sold more books than Wole Soyinka, Chinua Achebe, Chimamanda all put together despite piracy. If he were to take proceeds of tapes and books alone na billionaire. Yet some funny individuals will ask you how he is rich. I was amazed myself to find out in 2015 that he does not earn from Books proceed neither does he take Salary. It is the church that takes the proceeds.

Same with their Universities. In this case neither the Church nor Oyedepo takes profit(even though they can if they desire to). Everything is reinvested back into the system and the Church adds some more billions to the Universities annually. At times Oyedepo also gives to the Universities from his own pocket.

Statsocial:
Some might wonder why I post so much about pastors and the church. It is certainly not because I idolise any man whatsoever. Oyedepo, Adeboye and the rest are just Generals in God's Army so unbelievers persecuting them is not an issue.
However we are not oblivious of the strategy of the kingdom of Hell which is to Take aim at the Set men and scuttle the congregation, with congregations scuttled many would relegate out of faith. This is particularly the reason why I no longer get involved in the Tithing debate. The majority of those who are Anti Tithing are not lovers of the Church. You would usually see them say things like "Churches are too much, we need Industries" but a True lover of the Church must first see himself as a Christian and every other thing like Tribe and Nationality comes second hence my church validates your country and not the other way.

I'm using this medium to admonish True lovers of the Church not to fall for the same trap Eve fell for. Do not engage in a conversation where you are unaware of the underlying Motivations of the individual you are debating with. Eve argued with the Devil concerning the things of God. He(devil) was technically right by twisting a concept in his assertion and it led to the fall of man.

In the midst of any noise in the Church, Heaven or Hell must gain. Ask yourself who gains by these noise on Tithing. The Enemy would make you think it is Heaven that would gain just like the Serpent deceived Eve by telling her all she would gain by eating the fruit.

Secondly, know the priorities of Christ and ask yourself if Jesus would be igniting a debate about Tithing in a world where Christians are loosing Faith, Divorce in Church is high and there is Sexual Immorality pervading some Churches.

Lastly, study your Christian faith(or religion) and understand how changes occur in d church. How did we get to correct some doctrinal errors in the church. Did we have to pull Methodist down for Hagin to emerge, did we have to pull Anglican down for Oyedepo to emerge or did we have to pull Apostolic faith down for Kumuyi to emerge. These men came out of these ministries and tried to correct some things yet the ministries they emerged from are spared onslaught. As Christ said "any house standing against itself cannot stand". Hagin did not condemn Methodist for kicking him out when he got big because he knew only the Devil benefits.

Keep deceiving ur funny self.

If some Nigerians accept some of the things u post doesnt mean we are all gullible.

dont ever take those pastors serious let alone as role models.

sikowitz17:
Some people here don't even know anything... Ignorance kills... I was privileged to be among many who got covenant free... 100 percent scholarship u Der the Bishop oyedepo scholarship scheme... My roommates mother sold pepper... And our sees were paid timely... Go to landmark, 90 percent of the students there are on some form of scholarship... Ignorance is bad... After a conference we had, I packaged my 10k to go and sow into the life of the man of God.... And when I got there.... Someone just sowed 10 million dollars in my front... That man does t take from the church, the church owns his book sales, the schools, practically everything... If u like pay tithe... If u like dont pay... Eventually, it's you and your God...some idiots will come here and rant about God's anointed.... You will all get your rewards in due time... But I blame nobody... The Bishop already told us in January that this year, the church would come under heavy fire from the public, but guess what, eventually God's church prevails...

I just want to ask you some simple questions please..
you said he does not take from the church..
1.Who is the owner of the church?
2..Are you one of their finance officer or account manager .
3.When they try to balance all the account including all the scholarship u mentioned, Did u notice that their family expenditure was not there?

I will like to hear what u have to say on this please.. Remember, these are harmless questions

sikowitz17:
my father cannot stoop so low to reply anybody on kingdom matters.... And it might even surprise you that the bishop might not even know who freeze is.... Because there's no time for frevolities... My father is always working.

na waa o :....Your father cannot stoop so low to reply anybody on kingdom matters..... do you teach new believers classes in your church or you expect them to just follow everything your father tells them..without asking questions .. So How do you witness to unbelievers if you cannot reply anybody on kingdom matters

9.18 where Jesus says, “Who do the crowds say that I am?” Jesus asked pple questions
Luke 18 > 24Those who heard this asked, “Who then can be saved? > People asked Jesus questions

What do you think of Jesus here??

bezimo:
The blessing upon Bishop Oyedepo life cannot really be explained as it were considering he doesn't take from church nor books sales. I would think blessings come to him from members of the church that are blessed and other pastors outside the church or other folks who his ministry has blessed them. In the just concluded shiloh a pastor shared testimony of how because of his commitment to kingdom advancement endeavors God favored him to have 2 jeeps and properties and he won a supply contract with a Chinese firm worth $300m...the other day a pastor in winners built a facility worth 1bn in lekki and donated the church to Winners. You can imagine the worth of that pastor...he is obviously a billionaire..there are super wealthy folks in winners and other places that give to Bishop..a long time ago..I was told how someone that isn't even a member of the church gave Bishop N100m..you can imagine how much of such mega seeds enters his hands from time to time.. I think the frequency of this mega seeds entering his hands is pretty high because he is also a big giver.

if you dont belong to the family and are on the outside, you will keep wondering the source of his wealth. One of my pastor said, what made him turn a christian was when he say how the wealthy were serving God. people shout pastors are impoverishing the poor i can say not likes of Oyedepo. As at 1989 when he moved to lagos on that instruction, he cant even be termed "wealthy". I have heard testimonies of Imams bringing money in ghana must go to canaan land.

Statsocial:
This man has sold more books than Wole Soyinka, Chinua Achebe, Chimamanda all put together despite piracy. If he were to take proceeds of tapes and books alone na billionaire. Yet some funny individuals will ask you how he is rich. I was amazed myself to find out in 2015 that he does not earn from Books proceed neither does he take Salary. It is the church that takes the proceeds.

Same with their Universities. In this case neither the Church nor Oyedepo takes profit(even though they can if they desire to). Everything is reinvested back into the system and the Church adds some more billions to the Universities annually. At times Oyedepo also gives to the Universities from his own pocket.

And who owns the church?

MuttleyLaff:
¹³When the Jewish Passover was near, Jesus went up to Jerusalem.
¹⁴In the temple courts He found men selling cattle, sheep, and doves, and money changers seated at their tables.
¹⁵So He made a whip out of cords and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle.
He poured out the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.
¹⁶To those selling doves He said,
“Get these out of here!
How dare you turn My Father’s house into a marketplace!”
- John 2:13-16

Jesus whilst on earth and knew how to write, didnt even write a single farthing book
When Jesus did however decided to write, He wrote in the sands and the wind soon blew the writing away

If Jesus, for a casual visit, was to come back to earth, here, now, momentarily, just for second, He will, AGAIN, get hold of a whip,
and beat the living daylights out of these pastors for their filthy lucre

How dare, take advantage of people because they listen to you on a regurlar basis
Milking the sheeple and fleecing the sheep of their hard earned money by selling them "best selling books" etcetera

I can see that your senses are small. Jesus didn't write books all those teaching you are reading in the bible are what? I don't know why people criticize the men of God

Statsocial:
This man has sold more books than Wole Soyinka, Chinua Achebe, Chimamanda all put together despite piracy. If he were to take proceeds of tapes and books alone na billionaire. Yet some funny individuals will ask you how he is rich. I was amazed myself to find out in 2015 that he does not earn from Books proceed neither does he take Salary. It is the church that takes the proceeds.

Same with their Universities. In this case neither the Church nor Oyedepo takes profit(even though they can if they desire to). Everything is reinvested back into the system and the Church adds some more billions to the Universities annually. At times Oyedepo also gives to the Universities from his own pocket.

The books should be free then. Why do they sell the books? He owns the church, church money is his money simple.

AZeD1:
Jesus gave two commandments, love God and love your neighbors. The bible also says how can you say you love God you have not seen when you can't love your neighbour.

With the amount of churches in Nigeria, can you say there's love in the Country?. The Church has failed and its because Pastors like so called Generals have taught their followers to chase money and prosperity by any other means.

The church is failing itself with the frauds called pastors.

if church no dey naija, una go blame something else. if that something else no dey, Una go blame una papa and mama. Take responsibilities for your failures and stop blaming the church!

Richy4:
I just want to ask you some simple questions please..
you said he does not take from the church..
1.Who is the owner of the church?
2..Are you one of their finance officer or account manager .
3.When they try to balance all the account including all the scholarship u mentioned, Did u notice that their family expenditure was not there?

I will like to hear what u have to say on this please.. Remember, these are harmless questions

God started his ministry and simply used an ordinary man...so it's God's church....and I dont work with the church.... But when millions of naira is paid my a man who has never met me... To send me to school... I'll rather just pray for him.

chloride6:
90% of the students there dont pay?

Do you know what is $10 million?

Guy you are a terrible liar.... very terrible at that

your small mind cannot comprehend the fact that its just money...... And I didn't say 90 percent do t pay.... I said they are on some FORM of scholarship.... Oga read English

DaBillionnaire:
Keep deceiving ur funny self.

If some Nigerians accept some of the things u post doesnt mean we are all gullible.

dont ever take those pastors serious let alone as role models.

lol ...do you need to told you're quoting an upcoming pastor whose aim is to paint the image of their so called G O. on a good light
.

Thanks for saying that. What some folks decide to spew to proof that they have opinions worth expressing irrespective, that man is a huge blessing to this generation and those to come.
People value absence of good people more than when they are still around. It is normal.

bedspread:
I Heard GOD'S Servant say this and I was Humbled by The History of This GOD'S General.....

I do not attend Winners Chapel but am a1st Eagle � graduate of Covenant University, and I know That Bishop books are Best sellers all over Africa and in some nations outside Africa..

Citizens should listen When Men like this talk, not listening to one "Son of Beliah" Who cannot Manage His Home...

bukatyne:
@Statsocial,

I like facts.

Agreed he is not that wealthy as the whole Winners Corporation was valued, as you saying he lives solely on people's gifts?

That would be commendable.

I also hope that those people equally reach out to the poor amongst them.

I am a graduate of one the church institution and I tell you one thing I will forever be grateful for is being in that environment, it made me see a whole things about life differently. I have been blessed by other students parents simply because I was responsible for the well being of their children someway. Life is vanity, truth and knowledge is important. People talk because they do not know

MuttleyLaff:
¹³When the Jewish Passover was near, Jesus went up to Jerusalem.
¹⁴In the temple courts He found men selling cattle, sheep, and doves, and money changers seated at their tables.
¹⁵So He made a whip out of cords and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle.
He poured out the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.
¹⁶To those selling doves He said,
“Get these out of here!
How dare you turn My Father’s house into a marketplace!”
- John 2:13-16

Jesus whilst on earth and knew how to write, didnt even write a single farthing book
When Jesus did however decided to write, He wrote in the sands and the wind soon blew the writing away

If Jesus, for a casual visit, was to come back to earth, here, now, momentarily, just for second, He will, AGAIN, get hold of a whip,
and beat the living daylights out of these pastors for their filthy lucre

How dare, take advantage of people because they listen to you on a regurlar basis
Milking the sheeple and fleecing the sheep of their hard earned money by selling them "best selling books" etcetera

gain knowledge, get understanding... get wise. Jesus' mission on earth was nit to write. he came that you might be saved. The apostles were writers. Paul was a writer 2 Tim4:13, Danniel was a reader and also a writer. read your bible well, you will see things differently

majekdom2:
if you dont belong to the family and are on the outside, you will keep wondering the source of his wealth. One of my pastor said, what made him turn a christian was when he say how the wealthy were serving God. people shout pastors are impoverishing the poor i can say not likes of Oyedepo. As at 1989 when he moved to lagos on that instruction, he cant even be termed "wealthy". I have heard testimonies of Imams bringing money in ghana must go to canaan land.

Yeah that's true but it's unfortunate that the ignorant that don't know this will talk carelessly against Bishop oyedepo and in so doing attract devine curses on themselves.

mickeymimi:
na waa o :....Your father cannot stoop so low to reply anybody on kingdom matters..... do you teach new believers classes in your church or you expect them to just follow everything your father tells them..without asking questions .. So How do you witness to unbelievers if you cannot reply anybody on kingdom matters

9.18 where Jesus says, “Who do the crowds say that I am?” Jesus asked pple questions
Luke 18 > 24Those who heard this asked, “Who then can be saved? > People asked Jesus questions

What do you think of Jesus here??

Freeze is not just an unbeliever he is on an evil mission to confuse young and new believers in the faith as commissioned by Satan himself.
Freeze is far too small for Bishop Oyedepo to be replying besides it's not in his nature to reply criticism, a pastor tore one of Bishop oyedepo book on the alter after criticising him..it was that bad but Bishop never replied. Where is that pastor?

You have my Kudos @statsocial.
Those who are sold out to excelling in criticism, only if they could excel so much in their crafts as well.
It takes a devil's heart not to see any single good thing in a person.
If we don't agree with a man's total ideas, there is still possibility of learning from him especially if he has integrity, sense of responsibility and results to show.
If a common African leader can be as hardworking as Bishop Oyedepo, possibly African countries would be better off. He is hardwork personified. Yet, his critics won't learn such a trait. Everything about him is not miracles, he is an addicted hardworker, an astute learner/reader. You can't blame him if he has results.

Pricelessangel0:
I can see that your senses are small.

I can see that you looked in a mirror dimly when you typed that
Stop trying to make fetch happen
The stench is intoxicating.
Get away from me with that stench that smells like ignorance, drama, headache and a juvenile.

Pricelessangel0:
Jesus didn't write books all those teaching you are reading in the bible are what?

If it is not going to be too hard for you, please name one book which Jesus, when on earth, wrote

Pricelessangel0:
I don't know why people criticize the men of God

Speak not in the ears of a foolish [man], for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.
- Proverbs 23:9

Whoever criticizes people will be more highly regarded in the future than the one who flatters with his tongue.
- Proverbs 28:23

Statsocial:
You would be amazed at how much people financially bless pastors which is biblical Gal6:6
Secondly, do you know that after the Forbes report he said 1) that is an insult 2) I don't see myself laying that much in my account.

No 1 went viral but no 2 didn't go viral because the enemies of the Church love controversies rather than clarity. We later discovered Forbes had valued Covenant to come up with the ridiculous 150million USD tag(mind you Covenant infrastructure is worth more than 250 million USD). Covenant is registered as owned by WMA not Oyedepo hence cannot make up Oyedepo wealth.

I am not doubting that Oyedepo is wealthy but don't be too sure you know how much he truly owns.

You people talk so much thrash. What do you mean by Covenant is registered as owned by WMA not Oyedepo hence cannot make up Oyedepo wealth? Who are the owners of WMD? It is like saying because Google is registered under Alphabet Inc., the value of Google cannot make up Larry Page and Sergey Brin's wealth.

So if Oyedepo does not earn money from his book,
He does not earn money from his universities,
He does not earn money from tithes,

How is he able to afford to buy 4 jets and maintain them?

bezimo:
Freeze is not just an unbeliever he is on an evil mission to confuse young and new believers in the faith as commissioned by Satan himself.
Freeze is far too small for Bishop Oyedepo to be replying besides it's not in his nature to reply criticism, a pastor tore one of Bishop oyedepo book on the alter after criticising him..it was that bad but Bishop never replied. Where is that pastor?

haba ! ......he replied freeze ... and he did not quote any scriptures ..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__7B1t0rlyY

BISHOP OYEDEPO REPLIES DADDY FREEZE ON TITHING IN CHURCHES

sikowitz17:
Some people here don't even know anything... Ignorance kills... I was privileged to be among many who got covenant free... 100 percent scholarship u Der the Bishop oyedepo scholarship scheme... My roommates mother sold pepper... And our sees were paid timely... Go to landmark, 90 percent of the students there are on some form of scholarship... Ignorance is bad... After a conference we had, I packaged my 10k to go and sow into the life of the man of God.... And when I got there.... Someone just sowed 10 million dollars in my front... That man does t take from the church, the church owns his book sales, the schools, practically everything... If u like pay tithe... If u like dont pay... Eventually, it's you and your God...some idiots will come here and rant about God's anointed.... You will all get your rewards in due time... But I blame nobody... The Bishop already told us in January that this year, the church would come under heavy fire from the public, but guess what, eventually God's church prevails...

Nice... The word IDIOT....

majekdom2:
gain knowledge, get understanding... get wise.

Look in the mirror and them immediately repeat those exact "gain knowledge, get understanding... get wise" words again

majekdom2:
Jesus' mission on earth was nit to write. he came that you might be saved.
The apostles were writers. Paul was a writer 2 Tim4:13, Danniel was a reader and also a writer.
read your bible well, you will see things differently

I can bet my bottom dollar, you believe the apostles who were writers and Daniel, sold their writings too

mickeymimi:
haba ! ......he replied freeze ... and he did not quote any scriptures ..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__7B1t0rlyY

BISHOP OYEDEPO REPLIES DADDY FREEZE ON TITHING IN CHURCHES

He was talking from Malachi 3...and emphasising the fact that from scriptures in Mal 3 open heaven is not possible for a non-tither as said by God himself.so there is nothing he said that is not backed by scriptures.

Statsocial:
Some might wonder why I post so much about pastors and the church. It is certainly not because I idolise any man whatsoever. Oyedepo, Adeboye and the rest are just Generals in God's Army so unbelievers persecuting them is not an issue.
However we are not oblivious of the strategy of the kingdom of Hell which is to Take aim at the Set men and scuttle the congregation, with congregations scuttled many would relegate out of faith. This is particularly the reason why I no longer get involved in the Tithing debate. The majority of those who are Anti Tithing are not lovers of the Church. You would usually see them say things like "Churches are too much, we need Industries" but a True lover of the Church must first see himself as a Christian and every other thing like Tribe and Nationality comes second hence my church validates your country and not the other way.

I'm using this medium to admonish True lovers of the Church not to fall for the same trap Eve fell for. Do not engage in a conversation where you are unaware of the underlying Motivations of the individual you are debating with. Eve argued with the Devil concerning the things of God. He(devil) was technically right by twisting a concept in his assertion and it led to the fall of man.

In the midst of any noise in the Church, Heaven or Hell must gain. Ask yourself who gains by these noise on Tithing. The Enemy would make you think it is Heaven that would gain just like the Serpent deceived Eve by telling her all she would gain by eating the fruit.

Secondly, know the priorities of Christ and ask yourself if Jesus would be igniting a debate about Tithing in a world where Christians are loosing Faith, Divorce in Church is high and there is Sexual Immorality pervading some Churches.

Lastly, study your Christian faith(or religion) and understand how changes occur in d church. How did we get to correct some doctrinal errors in the church. Did we have to pull Methodist down for Hagin to emerge, did we have to pull Anglican down for Oyedepo to emerge or did we have to pull Apostolic faith down for Kumuyi to emerge. These men came out of these ministries and tried to correct some things yet the ministries they emerged from are spared onslaught. As Christ said "any house standing against itself cannot stand". Hagin did not condemn Methodist for kicking him out when he got big because he knew only the Devil benefits.

if i hear... Keep deceiving yourself

petra1:
Tho who criticize ministers are committing grevious sins . Especially the Christians among them who betray the body they belong to by joining the world to spread lies

bros , sin na sin . you lie you be sinner

Statsocial:
This man has sold more books than Wole Soyinka, Chinua Achebe, Chimamanda all put together despite piracy. If he were to take proceeds of tapes and books alone na billionaire. Yet some funny individuals will ask you how he is rich. I was amazed myself to find out in 2015 that he does not earn from Books proceed neither does he take Salary. It is the church that takes the proceeds.

Same with their Universities. In this case neither the Church nor Oyedepo takes profit(even though they can if they desire to). Everything is reinvested back into the system and the Church adds some more billions to the Universities annually. At times Oyedepo also gives to the Universities from his own pocket.

God bless you for this write up. You are truly a Son of this Commission. You are Lifted. Enjoy your realms of New Dawn

Statsocial:
This man has sold more books than Wole Soyinka, Chinua Achebe, Chimamanda all put together despite piracy. If he were to take proceeds of tapes and books alone na billionaire. Yet some funny individuals will ask you how he is rich. I was amazed myself to find out in 2015 that he does not earn from Books proceed neither does he take Salary. It is the church that takes the proceeds.

Same with their Universities. In this case neither the Church nor Oyedepo takes profit(even though they can if they desire to). Everything is reinvested back into the system and the Church adds some more billions to the Universities annually. At times Oyedepo also gives to the Universities from his own pocket.

real question is then how does he makes his money

Whether freeze and all his follower put together...like it or not...their online ranting have no effect... You will marvel at the turn out in this Shiloh... The numbers was over whelming... I withness about two viewing centers..and it was wow...so if u like keep on with the work u are doing ...and see the church increase faster than u can ever imagine ....

Statsocial:
I HAVE NEVER EARNED MONEY FROM MY BOOKS-Bishop Oyedepo puts to rest arguments on how much he makes from his books.

By Leke Beecroft

In no unclear terms, the presiding Bishop of the Living Faith Church clarified the argument on his income/royalty from books he publishes. Till date, Bishop Oyedepo has released over 110 books and over 10 million copies have been sold since 1993 when Dominion Publishing House (DPH) the printing and publishing arm of the ministry was established. According to him, his first two books were released in 1985. Presently, the DPH owns a state of the art printing press with machines imported from Germany and yet the books are among the cheapest sold.

In his words while announcing the new Bibles being published by the Church:

“We are venturing into production of Bibles into all languages across Africa.
Publishing is to us a ministry, not a business.

I have never drawn a dime from my books once-we only feed from the testimonies that come in.

No author from DPH earns a dime from the books in DPH yet it sells round the world.

We sell the cheapest of all Christian literature and we produce among the best.

The Church has never drawn from DPH since inception.

Why are we so blessed? We are doing the right thing.

Is it wrong to get money from books? No, but that’s not my style with Jesus” the Bishop concluded.

Some new books authored by Bishop Oyedepo and his wife, Pastor Faith Oyedepo and published by the DPH were announced at Shiloh 2017, among them are:


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1234485350028667&id=444807728996437

How come Paul and other disciples were not Rich because people also gave to them.

if Christianity is about riches....I wonder why the disciples choose to be poor.