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Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by anonimi: 6:53am On Dec 13, 2017 |
texazzpete: Abi oh. Many who claim to be Christians don't read, study to meditate on their Bible. Matthew 25:31-46 King James Version (KJV) www.nairaland.com/attachments/6249257_pastor_jpeg2e4e8592b29c783dcc87f79282640639 3 Likes |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by rejosom(m): 6:56am On Dec 13, 2017 |
secpowell: Well the bible u claim to read said so. When Jesus sent his disciples to preach, he specifically asked them not to carry any 'purse'. Now, tell me that the holy spirit ministered to you that the statement meant 'carry your money for hand no use purse' Continue!!! 3 Likes |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by ogene007: 6:57am On Dec 13, 2017 |
Opinedecandid:For over 500 years after calvary, there was nothing like tithe collection by the church. In AD 585, the synod of the church in Macon, France introduced this error into Christianity. Ever since, the error has continued to this day. That is church history for you. |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by dukecharles(m): 6:59am On Dec 13, 2017 |
felixomor: Read 2 Thessalonians 3 vs 8, 1 Thessalonians 2 vs 9 and 2 cor 11 vs 9 . On three occasions Apostle Paul stateed categorically that when he was with the Corinthians and Thessalonians he never bothered them with money, rather he toiled day and night to earn a living for himself. Gospel of tithing as bases for God's rain of blessing is an insult to the salvivic work and Gospel of Jesus Christ for the scriptures says we are a chosen people, a royal priesthood... c.f. 1 Peter 2 vs 9. So if All Christians are royal priest why should they pay tithe? Do the maths. Please study ur bible. 2 Likes |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by rejosom(m): 7:02am On Dec 13, 2017 |
PointZerom: No it doesn't. The only thing is that tithing has no business with Christianity. If you a Jew, no problems. Again, tithing should be on food items not money according of course to the bible. |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by Nobody: 7:03am On Dec 13, 2017 |
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Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by Kokaine(m): 7:03am On Dec 13, 2017 |
felixomor:my brother that system has not been working. pastors are riding jets!!! wtf!!!! does God not love the poor people? that womans money has reached the destination no church tithe will get to. leave the hero freeze let him do his thing. was jesus a multi millionaire? |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by konkonbilo(m): 7:05am On Dec 13, 2017 |
I weep for my country people. There is no difference between Nigerian pastors and politicians. Their main objective is to scam them and turn their brains up side down. |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by Fizzbizzie(m): 7:08am On Dec 13, 2017 |
So all the effort from daddy freeze is to open this his scam club.. hmm, so he is the fat pig being fed now )) |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by CeloRayGreen(m): 7:10am On Dec 13, 2017 |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by anytexy: 7:13am On Dec 13, 2017 |
rejosom:I wonder oo. some people eeh. |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by oruma19: 7:14am On Dec 13, 2017 |
rejosom:u people don't wana go to heaven abi? Papa adeboye said u must pay 10% to him or miss heaven... Una nobde hear word abi? OK na. Ahahahahahaha haha. Adeboye is a backslider he needs to return to God. Pride will not make him agree he has failed God because he sees himself as god. Non wahala we are watching. Pls read his open heaven where he lied..
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Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by Lightening: 7:17am On Dec 13, 2017 |
felixomor: So you don't see hungry members that genuinely need help in your church? You wouldn't because they don't add value to the bottom line anymore. How most churches ignore members that used to contribute heavily to the church but happened to go broke is highly reprehensible. Many church members can relate yo this. 2 Likes |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by Kulas: 7:20am On Dec 13, 2017 |
rejosom: Nice one.Nigeria is getting there |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by Daemonsanti(m): 7:21am On Dec 13, 2017 |
felixomor:Nailed it. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by Timijo(m): 7:21am On Dec 13, 2017 |
felixomor:You have tried on this your submission about tithe payment. I would advise you to leave those Freeze followers alone, they will not believe you because Freeze is telling them what they want to hear. These are the same people who condemn men of God for receiving gifts from their members, Philippians chapter 4 that you cited vindicates these men of God and also just justifies them. But Freeze and his blind followers will not believe because their ignorance is irredeemable. Some of them even take pleasure in insulting men of God like Pastor E.A Adeboye, Pastor W.F. Kumuyi, Bishop David Oyedepo, Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, etc. I am not a member of these pastors but I regard them as men of God. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by clemzo101(m): 7:22am On Dec 13, 2017 |
Didnt u read it there that it was gift? What understanding do u need again? Tithe and gift is different na, we pay tithe and still give gifts to our pastors felixomor: 1 Like |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by emmie14: 7:23am On Dec 13, 2017 |
felixomor:Paul is actually talking about needs not want. What is Adeboya going to do with #1bn. In as much as I don't support Freeze I also question such exorbitant demands from a pastor. |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by clemzo101(m): 7:25am On Dec 13, 2017 |
Has church ever taken from tithe to even repair common leaky roof? Whenever church want to still do anything they still task us. Has your church ever given account of tithe? Or told you they are taking from tithe to repair church bus or roof? Everytime we are still made to contribute. Stop defending the obvious please. felixomor: |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by wonder233: 7:33am On Dec 13, 2017 |
princechurchill:"..if you didn't CONTRIBUTED..." really I can see why you are a hapless slave. |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by Daemonsanti(m): 7:34am On Dec 13, 2017 |
rejosom:bla bla bla. so you actually think 10% of your earnings can eradicate poverty?? go tell those politicians to provide jobs and leave tithe and M.O.Gs to GOD. |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by AdolfHitlerxXx: 7:35am On Dec 13, 2017 |
rejosom: This, Ladies & Gents is one of the greatest posts ever on Nairaland. As a Muslim, I have often advised Xtian friends to rather help the poor directly than pay into Pastors' pockets. The beauty of this so-called TAP challenge is this - 1. you might/might not see the smiles you are putting on the faces of your beneficiaries. 2. You are making a greater impact saving someone's life , giving someone a source of livelihood rather than enriching your Pastor who is already richer than you 3. No one is asking you to give them money to manage for you. You are the sole administrator and distributor of your funds. Most of those who abuse Daddy Freeze are those who have been brainwashed thoroughly from birth by their parents...their social circles. They simply can't begin to reason outside this. It's impossible. Kudos to them though, I might become a Pastor too one day 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by Obajuxxl(m): 7:36am On Dec 13, 2017 |
No tithing in the New Testament they said but Jesus didn't conderm tithing see this scripture Matthew 23:23New International Version (NIV) 23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter,without neglecting the former. Look at the last statement careful, let us not be decieved |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by steve6: 7:36am On Dec 13, 2017 |
Informative! |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by wonder233: 7:37am On Dec 13, 2017 |
Timijo:you are just a hapless sheep. Go and worship your gods of men. |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by Xmen149(m): 7:37am On Dec 13, 2017 |
felixomor: Dnt turn bible upside down na,.key words there are 1)giving to someone in need (in this case peter) 2)The church should practice giving and recieving unconditionally(this is actually what a church should be "group of people who come together together to praise God and help each other any how they can) 3)willing sacrifice and offering made to the house of God is rewarded by almighty(tithe was not stated) 4)this "And my God will supply all that you need according to the riches of his glory in Christ Jesus....." last sentence has no terms and condition attached to it so its for every one 1 Like |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by oruma19: 7:38am On Dec 13, 2017 |
Timijo:but be sincere to urself, what they are doing is it right? Can u say Jesus is happy with them? Why deceive God's people to ur personal enrichment? It's not fair na, these pastors make believers feel God does not love everyone by the way they talk and do things. I knw how Chris talks, he makes u feel if u don't give him money God will not bless u, why then did Christ die? oyedepo is very boastful, adeboye humble but sly and assumes his word to be law. Kumuyi is not talking about it because he feels guilty. Olukoya is the only one who came out to say the truth, it is not compulsory. I am not against giving because I give a lot, not to sound immodest, God placed in my heart to assist a church near me build the auditorium and I am doing it gradually, so the point is clear, its good to give to God's work but not in under any form of duress , bet9ja or merrybet pattern where u give and expect return like God is kalokalo.we give because we are blessed not because we want God to bless us but because we appreciate His blessings. If He blesses us more, well and good, but in appreciation of His blessings we give. Let our men of God repent and do God's will. A lot of people in the bible who initially were great ended sadly because they derailed e.g Solomon, Samson, gehazi, Judas etc. Its not impossible for these men of God to go to hell, yes it is possible if they continue in false teaching for personal enrichment. 1 Like |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by Nobody: 7:40am On Dec 13, 2017 |
The next question that should be asked is if institutions that collects tithes should be taxed IMO this is a form of income to that institution. |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by Nobody: 7:44am On Dec 13, 2017 |
oruma19: Should men of God pay taxes on all incomes the institution get? If a Bible is quoted to justify not paying taxes, shouldn't the Bible replace the constitution of the nation . So that we all go dey quote am. |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by paulynpen(m): 7:45am On Dec 13, 2017 |
felixomor:What exactly is the Gospel? You are having problem with know what exactly the Gospel is. Have you forgotten the beatitude in matt. Chapter five? That's d Gospel. Matt.25:31 forward is very clear on this. He never mentioned tithe and offering v to bible believing church. Let us not leave out the most important thing because of materialism. See also Matt.23:23 forward and tell me what you see. Thank you and good morning |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by oruma19: 7:48am On Dec 13, 2017 |
RabbiDoracle:scripture has Neva been against the tax, Jesus paid tax and said give unto Caesar what belongs to him and to God what belongs to Him. God requires Justice , mercy, and humility Micah 6: 6-8, Matt 23:23. These are the weightier matters. |
Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by Nobody: 7:55am On Dec 13, 2017 |
oruma19: Ok. Thank you sir. Aside preaching the word of God, what other jobs did Jesus do to earn income? Please remind me. Some people don't do any other job aside preaching and get tithes. This IMO is income and he needs to pay taxes on that. Do you agree?? |
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