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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 10:02pm On Dec 12, 2017
Please o, whats the criteria to be a word class striker, cos going by what im reading them no reach 10 as at now
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Chelseafan1: 10:07pm On Dec 12, 2017
dmcdad:
I dey limbo ni... Na Manure loss against Citey bring me out.cheesy
Be like Pep wan win league ds year, Mourinho still dey mumu himself.

At least, these Man utd fans wey dey hail Mou go see say nothing dey for baba again. Baba is living on past glories grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 11:07pm On Dec 12, 2017
Chelseafan1:
Be like Pep wan win league ds year, Mourinho still dey mumu himself.

At least, these Man utd fans wey dey hail Mou go see say nothing dey for baba again. Baba is living on past glories grin grin grin
We warned them that mou tactics is cowardice they think we were hating.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dmcdad: 11:33pm On Dec 12, 2017
Chelseafan1:
Be like Pep wan win league ds year, Mourinho still dey mumu himself.

At least, these Man utd fans wey dey hail Mou go see say nothing dey for baba again. Baba is living on past glories grin grin grin
Gbam!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:49pm On Dec 12, 2017
odizeey:
Please o, whats the criteria to be a word class striker, cos going by what im reading them no reach 10 as at now
For me it's
1. CF plays in one of top leagues in the world, and in national team. And participates in top competitions like la liga, EPL, UCL, Euros (and the like) and world cup
2. Has Global awards, league awards and top nominations. making top eleven at the end of a season in a top highly competitive competition.
3. Scores game changing goals in top competitions, has atleast 20goals a season.
4. Among the best in your position, and is extremely valueable.
5. Top performances makes a player popular worldwide and eagerly sort after, especially after having a great season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody:
IFearGod:
Lols, this is very funny....I only see 7 world class strikers from the list. U mean Lewandoski/Aguero/Ibrahimovic and Morata/Lukaku/Jesus/Werner are in the same bracket? That must be a joke! shocked
I was listing top CF the best in world football based on their performances especially within the last season and this current one.

The joke is that Pep's picking Jesus more than Aguero, Mou Lukaku more than Ibrahimovic. It's ok they are still playing but performance wise currently they are dropping. If it's about the far back past record I should also name Torres.

Did you watch Gabriel Jesus in his last game against Man U, you think it's by age. World best player is given based on the previous seasons performance and not on the player's history.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:37am On Dec 13, 2017
BlueAngel444:
I was listing top CF the best in world football based on their performances especially within the last season and this current one.

The joke is that Pep's picking Jesus more than Aguero, Mou Lukaku more than Ibrahimovic. It's ok they are still playing but performance wise currently they are dropping. If it's about the far back past record I should also name Torres.

Did you watch Gabriel Jesus in his last game against Man City, you think it's by age. World best player is given based on the previous seasons performance and not on the player's history.
Lols, Gabriel Jesus against Man City? grin

Bro, even let Jesus score 30 goals this season, he's no world class. A world-class striker doesn't just come up in a day, it takes years of consistent performance at the topmost level. G. Jesus is in the same bracket with Rashford, Dembele, Klian Mbappé....they are youngsters not world class presently. They are two different terms; don't dare mix it.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody:
1. Suarez
2. Lewandoski
3. Kane
4. Aubameyang
5. Cavani
6. Benzema
7. Ibrahimovic
8. Falcao
9. Dzeko
10. Lukaku
11. Higuain
12. Aguero
13. Morata
14. Costa
15. Lacazette
16. Icardi
17. Werner
18. Belotti
19. Immobile
20. G.Jesus
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:00am On Dec 13, 2017
IFearGod:
Lols, Gabriel Jesus against Man U? grin

Bro, even let Jesus score 30 goals this season, he's no world class. A world-class striker doesn't just come up in a day, it takes years of consistent performance at the topmost level. G. Jesus is in the same bracket with Rashford, Dembele, Klian Mbappé....they are youngsters not world class presently. They are two different terms; don't dare mix it.
So your saying Mbappe is not world class? undecided, I never said G. Jesus is world class, nor Rashford.
So Messi in 2008 was not world class? shocked.

My friend if the world knows you and top clubs want you and you've outstandly performed in big globally viewed contests you are World Class.

Consistent performance over a long period makes you a legend.

World Class, Class of players recognized by global footballing bodies, fifa, ballon d'or.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 1:29am On Dec 13, 2017
BlueAngel444:
So your saying Mbappe is not world class? undecided, I never said G. Jesus is world class, nor Rashford.
So Messi in 2008 was not world class? shocked.

My friend if the world knows you and top clubs want you and you've outstandly performed in big globally viewed contests you are World Class.

Consistent performance over a long period makes you a legend.

World Class, Class of players recognized by global footballing bodies, fifa, ballon d'or.
I agree with you
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:32am On Dec 13, 2017
IFearGod:
Lols, Gabriel Jesus against Man City? grin

Bro, even let Jesus score 30 goals this season, he's no world class. A world-class striker doesn't just come up in a day, it takes years of consistent performance at the topmost level. G. Jesus is in the same bracket with Rashford, Dembele, Klian Mbappé....they are youngsters not world class presently. They are two different terms; don't dare mix it.
Any player that plays for Barcelona is world class..
Dembele is world class and you can not put him in the same level with primary school footballer rashford..
that's an insult to GOD AND ALLAH...

[b]DEMBELE
conquered at Dortmund and clubs before Dortmund and Barcelona paid huge for him because he is world class..

when clubs were bringing out their 100s of millions in other to get dembele and mpabe..
where was rash Ford?


even west ham will not bid for him..
It is only a rumour that Madrid wanted him, which was false..
Stop putting rashford and dembele or mpabe together before boko haram vess for you and locate you.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RoyalBlak007: 7:40am On Dec 13, 2017
DrinkLimca:
Any player that plays for Barcelona is world class..
Dembele is world class and you can not put him in the same level with primary school footballer rashford..
that's an insult to GOD AND ALLAH...

[b]DEMBELE
conquered at Dortmund and clubs before Dortmund and Barcelona paid huge for him because he is world class..

when clubs were bringing out their 100s of millions in other to get dembele and mpabe..
where was rash Ford?


even west ham will not bid for him..
It is only a rumour that Madrid wanted him, which was false..
Stop putting rashford and dembele or mpabe together before boko haram vess for you and locate you.
grin This dude has been a cule

[color=#F5A215] right from the womb [/color]
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RoyalBlak007: 7:42am On Dec 13, 2017
Why do I have this feeling cheesy

[color=#F5A215]that Madrid will show PSG the exit embarassed grin [/color]
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 7:46am On Dec 13, 2017
DrinkLimca:
Any player that plays for Barcelona is world class..
Dembele is world class and you can not put him in the same level with primary school footballer rashford..
that's an insult to GOD AND ALLAH...

[b]DEMBELE
conquered at Dortmund and clubs before Dortmund and Barcelona paid huge for him because he is world class..

when clubs were bringing out their 100s of millions in other to get dembele and mpabe..
where was rash Ford?


even west ham will not bid for him..
It is only a rumour that Madrid wanted him, which was false..
Stop putting rashford and dembele or mpabe together before boko haram vess for you and locate you.
Lols, alright boss! grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 7:47am On Dec 13, 2017
BlueAngel444:
So your saying Mbappe is not world class? undecided, I never said G. Jesus is world class, nor Rashford.
So Messi in 2008 was not world class? shocked.

My friend if the world knows you and top clubs want you and you've outstandly performed in big globally viewed contests you are World Class.

Consistent performance over a long period makes you a legend.

World Class, Class of players recognized by global footballing bodies, fifa, ballon d'or.
Alright boss cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:50am On Dec 13, 2017
RoyalBlak007:
Why do I have this feeling cheesy

[color=#F5A215]that Madrid will show PSG the exit embarassed grin [/color]
if it happens I will start to post all man u updates(medical o, money matters, players personal lifestyle) and become a Chelsea fan. All Spanish teams are going home, our mumu don do.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:44am On Dec 13, 2017
DrinkLimca:
Any player that plays for Barcelona is world class..
Dembele is world class and you can not put him in the same level with primary school footballer rashford..
that's an insult to GOD AND ALLAH...

[b]DEMBELE
conquered at Dortmund and clubs before Dortmund and Barcelona paid huge for him because he is world class..

when clubs were bringing out their 100s of millions in other to get dembele and mpabe..
where was rash Ford?


even west ham will not bid for him..
It is only a rumour that Madrid wanted him, which was false..
Stop putting rashford and dembele or mpabe together before boko haram vess for you and locate you.
How is Dumbelle better than Rash undecided So you think because Barca was foolishly duped into spending 100m for a player with not even a local league recognition or nomination.

Worst signing so far cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:57am On Dec 13, 2017
Next season grin

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:06am On Dec 13, 2017
BlueAngel444:
Gosh your posts can cause brain freeze cry

You should be ban from any keypad even a calculator undecided

What occasion huh See if you want to underrate Chelsea's team atleast pretend to know what your saying.

Like my friend would say:

Thank You grin
Okay, thank you...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:10am On Dec 13, 2017
BlueAngel444:
Madrid defense, Carvajal, Ramos Varane, Marcelo that coped against MSN, will what against who huh See the way your sounding certain as if you have watched the match already shocked.

So Bayern's back four is better than Madrid's undecided.

And that Dumbelle you mentioned will do what, let him play el classico first before any noise pls.
Lol PSG did the business against Bayern when it mattered most...Dembele ran circles around the Madrid defense when he was at Dortmund so, yes he is that good...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:11am On Dec 13, 2017
ceejayx:
Next season grin
It's possible o, na so Leicester own start like play like play they suceed
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by slimghost(m): 9:15am On Dec 13, 2017
Guys, it's my birthday today! Join and me thank God for the gift of life.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:27am On Dec 13, 2017
raumdeuter:
Delph Sterling, Stones were players ridiculed previously. Actually about 60% of people even forgot about Delph until like September this season

You cant say Delph was better than Fellaini, Herrera. Fernandinho Matic na the same thing, Pogba can do what KDB does if given the role and freedom,

Matial and Rashford are better than Sterling and Sane if played in the right system, Mata or Mikitaryan while not as intelligent as Silva, they can give 70% of his output in the right system.

You will give Pep a young team like Shaw, Martial Rashford Herrera, DDG. Now add a marquee signing like Pogba and 75M striker (Not named Lukaku), 40M defender like Lindelof or Bailly and everyone wont be hailing the type of football
When last did Manchester United finished above Manchester City?

When last did Manchester United dominated Manchester City in a match?

Even when we beat City under SAF in 2011/12 in FA cup after losing two league matches, City held us half field.

In 2012/2013, City played us half field even when we best them 3-2. The return leg they beat us after dominating us.

City has the better players since 2011. They gave gradually been using the Champions League to get quality experience even before Guardiola came. Guardiola has the better players. Truth be told.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 9:49am On Dec 13, 2017
elampiro:
When last did Manchester United finished above Manchester City?

When last did Manchester United dominated Manchester City in a match?

Even when we beat City under SAF in 2011/12 in FA cup after losing two league matches, City held us half field.

In 2012/2013, City played us half field even when we best them 3-2. The return leg they beat us after dominating us.

City has the better players since 2011. They gave gradually been using the Champions League to get quality experience even before Guardiola came. Guardiola has the better players. Truth be told.
This is effectively a lie.

LVG beat City 4-2, and later 1-0 at their ground in his second season. That second season City only finished above United on goals difference - they had equal points.

This myth that City have greater players is simply untrue. The core of that 2011 team have since waned starting from 2014/15.

In fact, it was so bad that City in Pelle's last season lost;

Twice to Leicester
Twice to Liverpool
Twice to West Ham
United beat them and drew
Arsenal beat them and drew

They could not beat any top 6 team that season and enjoyed serendipity in the Champions league which papered over the cracks.

If United were far behind when the season began the bookies won't have been as polarized as they were then.

Mou is realizing that the siege mentality he used for the underdogs he coached in the past (Porto, Chelsea and Inter Milan) will no longer work in dominant brands because the fans will ask for more. Look at his time in Real Madrid, second stint with Chelsea and now United for evidence.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:52am On Dec 13, 2017
Nothing wrong with Mourinho.

You guys have forgotten where he picked us from.

Let’s go back. Without Mourinho, Barca would have been doing what Bayern Munich is going in Bundesliga. Mourinho closed the gap between the two teams. That Barca team of that era was on a class of its own the whole world. With Ferguson, with Ronaldo, what did we do against Barca in 2009? After 12 minutes, we were forced to park the bus for the rest of the the match.

Mourinho returned to Chelsea to win the league because Chelsea were contenders the previous years. It was a stable team.

Guardiola went to City team that always finished top four and had previously won the league.

On the other hand, Mourinho went into a team that had overhauled players twice by two different managers who play different systems. First, the United team left by Ferguson was aged and played defensive against City and Chelsea since 2011/2012. We were even struggling against Tottenham and Everton.

Moyes took over and introduced this 'playing in zones' by our aged players who were previously used to sticking together. Many leading players also left in that era. Vidic, Ferndinand, Evra, Rafael, Giggs and the rest.

Gaal came in with his philosophy-pass the ball around, don't even risk losing it. We had hundreds of passes in our half everyday, even DeGea became a team player, but little penetrations. Mid-table teams and bottom teams just sat back and allowed us to pass in our half. When matches were going towards the end, our boys would be in a hurry pushing forward, then they concede a late goal. Only the big teams who were adventurous suffered from Gaal's philosophy, but sometimes they were unlucky. A particular match we beat City, I think 4-2, they would have been 3-0 up in 10 minutes.

Mourinho came, won two cups. For the first since SAF left, we are not at risk of not going to Champions League in December. We are still title contenders.




Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 9:53am On Dec 13, 2017
elampiro:
When last did Manchester United finished above Manchester City?

When last did Manchester United dominated Manchester City in a match?

Even when we beat City under SAF in 2011/12 in FA cup after losing two league matches, City held us half field.

In 2012/2013, City played us half field even when we best them 3-2. The return leg they beat us after dominating us.

City has the better players since 2011. They gave gradually been using the Champions League to get quality experience even before Guardiola came. Guardiola has the better players. Truth be told.
that's just one ugly fact that most peeps don't want to face..Perez had been spending millions every transfer window for more than 7 years,with time they finally had d right balance with quality and also good depth,when the oil people took over city and started spending,d result wasn't that immediate,yes they bought some useless players along the way but they also bought world class players,now look at where city is with the right coach and real quality players they have started reaping d dividends...look at psg also its not now their spending started,but look at d team they have now,all these things take time..

d fact is that we don't have that quality any longer,it should b a dilemma that all d top 6 we faced without pogba we didn't win,but d ones pogba played,we won..it goes to show that even if the team doesn't play well on a particular day,you'd still need individual brilliance..

we are getting left behind
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:55am On Dec 13, 2017
slimghost:
Guys, it's my birthday today! Join and me thank God for the gift of life.
Happy Birthday Bro... God make you bigger. Amen.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:02am On Dec 13, 2017
Eruditor:
This is effectively a lie.

LVG beat City 4-2, and later 1-0 at their ground in his second season. That second season City only finished above United on goals difference - they had equal points.

This myth that City have greater players is simply untrue. The core of that 2011 team have since waned starting from 2014/15.

In fact, it was so bad that City in Pelle's last season lost;

Twice to Leicester
Twice to Liverpool
Twice to West Ham
United beat them and drew
Arsenal beat them and drew

They could not beat any top 6 team that season and enjoyed serendipity in the Champions league which papered over the cracks.

If United were far behind when the season began the bookies won't have been as polarized as they were then.

Mou is realizing that the siege mentality he used for the underdogs he coached in the past (Porto, Chelsea and Inter Milan) will no longer work in dominant brands because the fans will ask for more. Look at his time in Real Madrid, second stint with Chelsea and now United for evidence.
One time out of how many meetings?

Even relegation team can sometimes have a good day.

Even Mourinho also beat City last season in FA cup. I don't count that as dominance
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:07am On Dec 13, 2017
RoyalBlak007:
grin This dude has been a cule
[color=#F5A215] right from the womb [/color]
Right from pre creation..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:11am On Dec 13, 2017
dubylhover:
that's just one ugly fact that most peeps don't want to face..Perez had been spending millions every transfer window for more than 7 years,with time they finally had d right balance with quality and also good depth,when the oil people took over city and started spending,d result wasn't that immediate,yes they bought some useless players along the way but they also bought world class players,now look at where city is with the right coach and real quality players they have started reaping d dividends...look at psg also its not now their spending started,but look at d team they have now,all these things take time..

d fact is that we don't have that quality any longer,it should b a dilemma that all d top 6 we faced without pogba we didn't win,but d ones pogba played,we won..it goes to show that even if the team doesn't play well on a particular day,you'd still need individual brilliance..

we are getting left behind
City still have had leaders all these years. Aguero, Silva and Kompany. For us, Vidic, Rooney, Fedinand have since tired.

I think SAF was slow to replace Scholes, Giggs and Carrick, which is the problem we face today. Mourinho is the first manager trying to fix our midfield. Matic and Pogba are the most sensible additions since Carrick (2006).

The truth is you need to build a team over some years to hit top gear. City, PSG, Tottenham have been building. United is close to finishing another rebuilding process. In that process, some players will not fit into the system. Even some very good players might not fit in.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 10:12am On Dec 13, 2017
dubylhover:
that's just one ugly fact that most peeps don't want to face..Perez had been spending millions every transfer window for more than 7 years,with time they finally had d right balance with quality and also good depth,when the oil people took over city and started spending,d result wasn't that immediate,yes they bought some useless players along the way but they also bought world class players,now look at where city is with the right coach and real quality players they have started reaping d dividends...look at psg also its not now their spending started,but look at d team they have now,all these things take time..

d fact is that we don't have that quality any longer,it should b a dilemma that all d top 6 we faced without pogba we didn't win,but d ones pogba played,we won..it goes to show that even if the team doesn't play well on a particular day,you'd still need individual brilliance..

we are getting left behind
we all know that at some point even SAF played a defensive game against the likes of barca because that barca team was something else.

But we knew how we dominated or played other teams that we were expected to dominate.

From the time we the fake fans complained about Mourinhos approach to games it was clear that even teams that we were expected to dominate, we did not and that's the reason we are 11points behind.

when we won games with this approach, even against average teams, we were asked why we were complaining because we got the 3points. it simply meant that when we played badly and got the 3points then we should not criticize any aspect of the team or coach.

The complaining was because we had seen that this approach/model/style or tactics was not sustainable and would not get us anywhere.

My point is if we had approached other games with a positive tactics we would probably be 3 or 4points behind city which is nothing.

unless something cataclysmic happens to city,there is a better chance of the chasing pack catching up with us than us catching city if we continue with this nonsense style.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ayamnezzar: 10:13am On Dec 13, 2017
elampiro:
City still have had leaders all these years. Aguero, Silva and Kompany. For us, Vidic, Rooney, Fedinand have since tired.

I think SAF was slow to replace Scholes, Giggs and Carrick, which is the problem we face today. Mourinho is the first manager trying to fix our midfield. Matic and Pogba are the most sensible additions since Carrick (2006).

The truth is you need to build a team over some years to hit top gear. City, PSG, Tottenham have been building. United is close to finishing another rebuilding process. In that process, some players will not fit into the system. Even some very good players might not fit in.

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