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codedguy1:
we all know that at some point even SAF played a defensive game against the likes of barca because that barca team was something else.

But we knew how we dominated or played other teams that we were expected to dominate.

From the time we the fake fans complained about Mourinhos approach to games it was clear that even teams that we were expected to dominate, we did not and that's the reason we are 11points behind.

when we won games with this approach, even against average teams, we were asked why we were complaining because we got the 3points. it simply meant that when we played badly and got the 3points then we should not criticize any aspect of the team or coach.

The complaining was because we had seen that this approach/model/style or tactics was not sustainable and would not get us anywhere.

My point is if we had approached other games with a positive tactics we would probably be 3 or 4points behind city which is nothing.

unless something cataclysmic happens to city,there is a better chance of the chasing pack catching up with us than us catching city if we continue with this nonsense style.

And i ask, must we win the league this season? Honestly if we win it Good, if not, I don't see it as a failure.
If at the end of last season, someone told me that we will be sitting comfortably in 2nd and are favourite to reach UCL quarters, honestly I will be very very content with it. I don't know for others sha

elampiro:
One time out of how many meetings?

Even relegation team can sometimes have a good day.

Even Mourinho also beat City last season in FA cup. I don't count that as dominance

In 4 meetings over 2 seasons he beat them twice and drew Twice, LVG.

Mou beat City in Carling cup where they fielded their reserves.

Mou was 8 points or more behind Pep in his first season at Real and won the league by 9 points his next season 100 to 91 (largely because Barca lost the last game of that season). If you call that closing the gap it is simply because he was given time.

Pelle finished on 96 points his first and only season at Real to Barca's 99 yet nobody praised him for closing the gap even when the next manager, Mou escorted Pep to the league and UCL.

You say City were previous champs but that was only 1 season after Fergie retired. They finished 2nd and then 4th (equal points with LVG) just before Pep. LVG even won the FA Cup which is a bigger trophy than the Carling cup.

You are just excusing Mou and blaming the players - especially Lukaku- Unfairly.

codedguy1:
we all know that at some point even SAF played a defensive game against the likes of barca because that barca team was something else.

But we knew how we dominated or played other teams that we were expected to dominate.

From the time we the fake fans complained about Mourinhos approach to games it was clear that even teams that we were expected to dominate, we did not and that's the reason we are 11points behind.

when we won games with this approach, even against average teams, we were asked why we were complaining because we got the 3points. it simply meant that when we played badly and got the 3points then we should not criticize any aspect of the team or coach.

The complaining was because we had seen that this approach/model/style or tactics was not sustainable and would not get us anywhere.

My point is if we had approached other games with a positive tactics we would probably be 3 or 4points behind city which is nothing.

unless something cataclysmic happens to city,there is a better chance of the chasing pack catching up with us than us catching city if we continue with this nonsense style.

so in other words mou should b sacked and an "attacking" coach should b signed

dubylhover:
so in other words mou should b sacked and an "attacking" coach should b signed

That's the message.

When people like Van gaal who spent almost 300m and sold most of our good players for peanuts, yet can't win matches convincingly and can't go far in any European completion, not minding scrapping top 4 or finishing out of if completely , can talk that means my club is in deep shit

dubylhover:
so in other words mou should b sacked and an "attacking" coach should b signed

Something needs to change.

codedguy1:
Something needs to change.

its not about mincing words,d "change" is that mou needs to go and we wud automatically start playing attacking football and all or players would improve

Eruditor:
In 4 meetings over 2 seasons he beat them twice and drew Twice, LVG.

Mou beat City in Carling cup where they fielded their reserves.

Mou was 8 points or more behind Pep in his first season at Real and won the league by 9 points his next season 100 to 91 (largely because Barca lost the last game of that season). If you call that closing the gap it is simply because he was given time.

Pelle finished on 96 points his first and only season at Real to Barca's 99 yet nobody praised him for closing the gap even when the next manager, Mou escorted Pep to the league and UCL.

You say City were previous champs but that was only 1 season after Fergie retired. They finished 2nd and then 4th (equal points with LVG) just before Pep. LVG even won the FA Cup which is a bigger trophy than the Carling cup.

You are just excusing Mou and blaming the players - especially Lukaku- Unfairly.

Did LVG ever finished above Manchester City? No

The fact is that City won the league more recently and have been very strong contenders. In 2015/2016 when they looked weak, they had injuries to their most important players- Silva, Kompany, Zabeleta. Even De Bruyne and Aguero were not left out.

Sometimes the team that has less injuries flourish. Leicester were able to win the league because their key players stayed fit. Same with City team of 2011/12. Currently the City team has stayed injury free unlike Manchester United.

On Mourinho at Madrid, whether you like it or not, Mourinho closed the gap. Ferguson played that Barca team four times, all were defensive, even the 2008 semi final legs.

But is it to defend Lukaku you people hate on Mourinho?

It is a shame. This is corruption.

CapitalCee:
When people like Van gaal who spent almost 300m and sold most of our good players for peanuts, yet can't win matches convincingly and can't go far in any European completion, not minding scrapping top 4 or finishing out of if completely , can talk that means my club is in deep shit

Manchester United under Van Gaal

United 78% possession
Opponent 22% possession

United 592 passes, 84% completed
Opponent 106 passes, 57% completed

Mid way into the second half. Scores at 0-0 and United fans shouting "attack" "attack" "attack"

slimghost:
Guys, it's my birthday today! Join and me thank God for the gift of life.

Happy birthday bro, more life!!

elampiro:
Manchester United under Van Gaal

United 78% possession
Opponent 22% possession

United 592 passes, 84% completed
Opponent 106 passes, 57% completed

Mid way into the second half. Scores at 0-0 and United fans shouting 'attack, attack, attack'

Elampiro whhhhhyyyy?

CapitalCee:
When people like Van gaal who spent almost 300m and sold most of our good players for peanuts, yet can't win matches convincingly and can't go far in any European completion, not minding scrapping top 4 or finishing out of if completely , can talk that means my club is in deep shit

dubylhover:
its not about mincing words,d "change" is that mou needs to go and we wud automatically start playing attacking football and all or players would improve

A-P-Ceeeeee !!!

elampiro:
Manchester United under Van Gaal

United 78% possession
Opponent 22% possession

United 592 passes, 84% completed
Opponent 106 passes, 57% completed

Mid way into the second half. Scores at 0-0 and United fans shouting 'attack, attack, attack'

LVG that we can't even guarantee top4 during his time. He bought.
Di Maria - 59.6m.
Rojo _16m
Herrera - 30m
Luke Shaw- 30m
Blind- 14m.
schneiderlein - 26m.
schweisteiger - 14m.
depay- 25m.
And all the money he spend on falcao; but still he is playing rubbish and can't win a decent match. I was very happy when that man left

elampiro:
Did LVG ever finished above Manchester City? No

The fact is that City won the league more recently and have been very strong contenders. In 2015/2016 when they looked weak, they had injuries to their most important players- Silva, Kompany, Zabeleta. Even De Bruyne and Aguero were not left out.

Sometimes the team that has less injuries flourish. Leicester were able to win the league because their key players stayed fit. Same with City team of 2011/12. Currently the City team has stayed injury free unlike Manchester United.

On Mourinho at Madrid, whether you like it or not, Mourinho closed the gap. Ferguson played that Barca team four times, all were defensive, even the 2008 semi final legs.

But is it to defend Lukaku you people hate on Mourinho?

It is a shame. This is corruption.

Who bought Lukaku? Who refused to sign a RW that can stretch play and open up spaces? Who refused to get a midfielder that can deputise or play alongside Pogba?

Me I don talk my own . If Mou fails to win the premier league or the champions league(at least make d final)...We ditch him and look for a coach that knows when to defend and when to attack or rather still bring SAF back
Ffs this is almost 5yrs since we won the league, we slowly turning to Arsenal. The money de but we can't do anything reasonable with it. City got pep before us, Got de bryne before us, Got Gab. Jesus before us . Before we can win d league again ,the board need to start getting it right.

elrony:
A-P-Ceeeeee !!!

hehehehe Naso oo..mayb when mou leaves,we would have a buhari like manager who would give us the change we desire

Men don dey ready Placard down , just in case!!!

eph12:
Who bought Lukaku? Who refused to sign a RW that can stretch play and open up spaces? Who refused to get a midfielder that can deputise or play alongside Pogba?

It's not easy to sign players like that. Mourinho signed Pogba, Matic, Mkhitaryan, Lukaku and Ibrahimovic. He gave a list of more players to the club, but these players are it available.

Mourinho is the the first manager trying to genuinely fix our midfield since 2006. SAF kept saying, players like Scholes and Giggs don't fall from the tree.

dubylhover:
hehehehe Naso oo..mayb when mou leaves,we would have a buhari like manager who would give us the change we desire

God forbid!!!!

Onto Moving Forward.

Can Our Boys bounce back from that Derby stinker?

Considering some player's confidence might be low, especially Lukaku. (He might wanna try and force things in a bid to make things right)

Another Home Game against Bournemouth, what's your expectation fam?

elrony:
God forbid!!!!

lol cos honestly I don't see who the replacement would b..is it poch?? that one that his team are known as chokers,yes he's an attacking coach but would he cope with the pressure at united? they said y mou was succeeding was becos he was mostly d underdog,I guess same can b said about poch,if he comes to united he won't b d underdog again,so who exactly are d fans expecting to replace mou to do magic on our team..

d main problem is that sir Alex is always brought up,but d fact is his time has passed,I even think sir Alex won't dominate this current epl with this set of players considering d quality other sides possess,so what's d fuss all about.

#MourinhoOut!!! Hehehehe

dubylhover:
lol cos honestly I don't see who the replacement would b..is it poch?? that one that his team are known as chokers,yes he's an attacking coach but would he cope with the pressure at united? they said y mou was succeeding was becos he was mostly d underdog,I guess same can b said about poch,if he comes to united he won't b d underdog again,so who exactly are d fans expecting to replace mou to do magic on our team..

d main problem is that sir Alex is always brought up,but d fact is his time has passed,I even think sir Alex won't dominate this current epl with this set of players considering d quality other sides possess,so what's d fuss all about.

I think the crux here is the bad footie we play against top sides. Some fans may be okay with it on away games nonetheless, but not at Home FFS after spending better mula

If Mou continues like this, hope no go dey o ! (and I wouldn't mind chasing him outta Manchester United with broom and cutlass).

On Pochettino, I think he's a good manager sha, but if he'll succeed at United?....The spirit hasn't revealed!

Buh at least he doesn't play coward footie at home! !!

CapitalCee:
#MourinhoOut!!! Hehehehe

For LVG to get mouth talk.... I wee not take it ! LMAOOO

slimghost:
Guys, it's my birthday today! Join and me thank God for the gift of life.

A ghost thanking God for the gift of life...

They told us we would see strange things in the end times sha

elrony:
For LVG to get mouth talk.... I wee not take it ! LMAOOO

Lolz

elrony:
I think the crux here is the bad footie we play against top sides. Some fans may be okay with it on away games nonetheless, but not at Home FFS after spending better mula

If Mou continues like this, hope no go dey o ! (and I wouldn't mind chasing him outta Manchester United with broom and cutlass).

On Pochettino, I think he's a good manager sha, but if he'll succeed at United?....The spirit hasn't revealed!

Buh at least he doesn't play coward footie at home! !!

yes mourinho has to take a chunk of d blame for the kind of footie he's playing against d big teams..

but do you remember when lvg first came,he was very attack minded and played an open game,but along d line d balance wasn't struck,nd he complained about having to always b on edge with our kind of open play,that we didn't have control in certain periods,then we lost 5 3 to Leicester,that was d game that ultimately ruined him cos that was when he started his sideways philosophy,

now mourinho of last season was also quite attacking last season even against arsenal at old Trafford we battered them,but d results wasn't coming..

now if you want to b honest and analyse both scenerios both coaches didn't plan on giving us drab footie,they started by attacking but it was obvious that along d line the players we have don't really have that experience and quality to control games and make good decisions,a point elampiro always emphasizes about..we lacking leaders..
so lvg used his sideways passes to limit thr deficiencies of the players while mou has become more cautious in his approach..

we need no buys like pogba,quality buys not all thx rubbish we see invtransfer market

we still fit win the UCL.

SIRcumalot:
we still fit win the UCL.

"fit"
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dubylhover:
yes mourinho has to take a chunk of d blame for the kind of footie he's playing against d big teams..

but do you remember when lvg first came,he was very attack minded and played an open game,but along d line d balance wasn't struck,nd he complained about having to always b on edge with our kind of open play,that we didn't have control in certain periods,then we lost 5 3 to Leicester,that was d game that ultimately ruined him cos that was when he started his sideways philosophy,

now mourinho of last season was also quite attacking last season even against arsenal at old Trafford we battered them,but d results wasn't coming..

now if you want to b honest and analyse both scenerios both coaches didn't plan on giving us drab footie,they started by attacking but it was obvious that along d line the players we have don't really have that experience and quality to control games and make good decisions,a point elampiro always emphasizes about..we lacking leaders..
so lvg used his sideways passes to limit thr deficiencies of the players while mou has become more cautious in his approach..

we need no buys like pogba,quality buys not all thx rubbish we see invtransfer market

Chaiiiiiiiii not LVG again!!!! Just one Loss and he served us shiit for a full season. Abeg I no wan vex!! I commend him for most of his big games tho, the rest is something I don't want to remember.

Well Mourinho didn't plan on playing drab footie, buh I think that's his default mode against equal opposition tbh. Why is it almost everytime we get served that Tilapia bones when we play top sides?

My own is he should be doing better, you don't spend all that money to play second fiddle, agreed we need more quality depth too, buh with Mourinho hmmm...(commentus reservedus )

To be honest I was happy when we got Mou, anything to chase that philosophy professor outta United was welcomed by me.

CapitalCee:
It's possible o, na so Leicester own start like play like play they suceed

I'm really impressed with their performance