safarigirl:
you test the engine, you don't drive it around.

It is only in this century that pre-marital sex is normal, yet this century also has the highest divorce rates. If sex is so important to a relationship, why is it not saving marriages?

It's too easy. Use youtube and or google. You can drive a car you want to buy around for a whole day if you want. All they need is your insurance and a form of ID. And the answer to the bolded is exactly what i have already told you. Don't get involved with someone you are not sexually compatible with.

reminiscing:

Sex is marriage and rape is divorce bah

Madam stop being mischievous, rape is not admissible in this discourse.

Gungnir:


Every single sexual intercourse puts your soul binded to whom you have had sex with. That is a fact! Not one is excluded! It's why certain clauses are kept on peoples life that have had such lifestyles eg, do not sleep with her before you married else you will never get married to her, do not have a lavish wedding, go and appease a certain woman you slept with or you deflowered. In some very serious cases deliverance will be required before such person can even seek for a partner...

Divorce is different, you are separating, not sleeping around without it being lawful before God.

Divorce is not different. You're leaving one partner for another.

reminiscing:

You used the word "Randomly " having sex. That is to say that you are not married but you have a girlfriend you constantly have sex with. Don't glorify sin, sin Na sin egbon.

I guess the Mod added that but my main topic remains as seen here.

YesNoMaybe:


Divorce is not different. You're leaving one partner for another.

Hahahah, according to the new testament, if you choose to divorce you are NOT expected to marry again except in very rare certain circumstances.

Toks2008:


Unfortunately, YES

How come ritualistic practise usually involves sex?

What then is the use of getting married since, as you had affimed (in upper case), that EVERY sexual intercourse puts you under a yoke?

Gungnir:


Hahahah, according to the new testament, if you choose to divorce you are NOT expected to marry again except in very rare certain circumstances.

You're now doing New Testament abi? The old testament should be thrown away shey? Rehab the prostitute was delivered from her yoke by who?

Sex doesn't mean marriage because Adam and Eve became husband and wife without even knowing what sex is, they are both naked and never had sex then (Gen. 2:24). Adam and Eve became one flesh because Eve was created from his rib. If you say that sex means marriage, you are implying that there is nothing like adultery or fornication.

YesNoMaybe:


You're now doing New Testament abi? The old testament should be thrown away shey? Rehab the prostitute was delivered from her yoke by who?

Then you don't know the reason why Jeaus died on the cross if you are still referring to the doctrine of old testament.

Will be delivered by a competent pastor and God.

Gungnir:


Hahahah, according to the new testament, if you choose to divorce you are NOT expected to marry again except in very rare certain circumstances.

And if you marry, it's a sin? Remember, you've brought me into the NEW TESTAMENT?

safarigirl:
this is like saying an automobile company will allow you drive their car because you have interest in it. They won't

Dating does not go hand in hand with sex, there can be intimacy without sex.....but world people have changed the dynamics of things so that you people think you cannot connect with someone without having sex with them.

You have become a slave to your body

Gbam!!

Bollinger:


It's too easy. Use youtube and or google. You can drive a car you want to buy around for a whole day if you want. All they need is your insurance and a form of ID. And the answer to the bolded is exactly what i have already told you. Don't get involved with someone you are not sexually compatible with.

good sex might Bleep up your mind to think you are compatible with a person when you are not

So, sexual compatibility is the only thing you look out for? What happens when you aren't having sex with your spouse?

Sexual compatibility alone cannot save a marriage, because most marriages that crash are built on sexual compatibility solely, until you enter and realise that once the sex is gone, you're stuck with an insufferable, condescending being with no sense of loyalty or some air headed bimbo that can't have decent conversation

YesNoMaybe:


Divorce is not different. You're leaving one partner for another.

For a marriage, you signed a legal document binding you two together, so you need a legal document to break it.

Sex is a spiritual covenant, you need a spiritual document to break it.

reminiscing:

You used the word "Randomly " having sex. That is to say that you are not married but you have a girlfriend you constantly have sex with. Don't glorify sin, sin Na sin egbon.

this is the exact argument I and Toks had back then that he suddenly has amnesia and can't remember.

See, he is trying to dodge the question because in his mind, he assumes that because he is having pre-marital sex with one person, he is better than those with multiple partners.

Toks2008:


You see why i love to relate with ladies of mature ages(who are hopefully mature at heart too) cos no mature lady will ever write this..to think you are using what i just revealed to you less than 10minutes ago to attack me lol! kai! immature ladies everywhere.

Please calm your raging nerves and wait tilli drop the article before making trolly comments...cant stop loling!

Ur points are totally off points. Sex is not marriage. Over spirituality is a problem in this country.

MrPresident1:
Sex is marriage.

Sex from rape Nkor

Gungnir:


Then you don't know the reason why Jeaus died on the cross if you are still referring to the doctrine of old testament.

Will be delivered by a competent pastor and God.

No sir. You are the one who doesn't know because on that cross he said "It is finished". That was even before the man committed fornication. When God saved us, He saved us indeed i.e everything that relates to the old life, the curses, the 'yokes' etc.
I'm talking Christianity, not the occultic. Once you give your life to the Son of God, EVERYTHING from the old life goes away. That is the standard.

So accepting Jesus can only give you salvation from sin and not from its implications. So you would need the services of 'a competent man of God' to complete the salvation that took the death of the Son of God?

Please, don't make me laugh.

Sex is sex (with it's implications), marriage is marriage. Don't mock God's divine institution.

YesNoMaybe:

And if you marry, it's a sin? Remember, you've brought me into the NEW TESTAMENT?

Yes

YesNoMaybe:


No sir. You are the one who doesn't know because on that cross he said "It is finished". That was even before the man committed fornication. When God saved us, He saved us indeed i.e everything that relates to the old life, the curses, the 'yokes' etc.
I'm talking Christianity, not the occultic. Once you give your life to the Son of God, EVERYTHING from the old life goes away. That is the standard.

Yes i agree with all you said. But yet in the new testament wanton indulgence in sex is not encourage nor was it said sexual intercourse will not lead to a soul tie or covenant.

Gungnir:


Yes i agree with all you said. But yet in the new testament wanton indulgence in sex is not encourage nor was it said sexual intercourse will not lead to a soul tie or covenant.

I'm not arguing on the implications of the wanton sex. My grouse lies in the fact that the op regards extra-marital intercourse as a marriage. So, in his reasoning a rape is tantamount to a forced marriage.

Gungnir:


Yes

Is the sin an unforgivable sin?

Noted.

Bakos2y7:
Sex doesn't mean marriage because Adam and Eve became husband and wife without even knowing what sex is, they are both naked and never had sex then (Gen. 2:24). Adam and Eve became one flesh because Eve was created from his rib. If you say that sex means marriage, you are implying that there is nothing like adultery or fornication.

Word!

YesNoMaybe:


Is the sin an unforgivable sin?

All sins are forgivable na, never said they weren't. Only unforgivable one is the one to the holy spirit.

YesNoMaybe:


I'm not arguing on the implications of the wanton sex. My grouse lies in the fact that the op regards extra-marital intercourse as a marriage. So, in his reasoning a rape is tantamount to a forced marriage.

I think he was being metaphorical by using marriage. He meant in the form of a soul tie, i stand to be corrected tho.

Gungnir:


All sins are forgivable na, never said they weren't. Only unforgivable one is the one to the holy spirit.

Exactly. There lies the problem: folks would get a divorce, ask for forgiveness and re-marry (in order to avoid fornication). Maybe the cycle would be repeated again.

But the op never factored these into his writing.

Gungnir:



I think he was being metaphorical by using marriage. He meant in the form of a soul tie, i stand to be corrected tho.

I hope so.

this is the most immature response of the year...

JamesReacher:
Toks2008

You reasoned like a kid in quoting the scriptures.

Genesis 2:24
That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.

Dont you know one flesh is a figurative term for it is practically impossible for two people to become one flesh. Whether you have sex with anybody, there's no spiritual bond whatsoever as you subtly claimed.

If you say it isn't, 'That is why a man leaves his father and mother' this doesnt mean the man would leave his parents like he's walking away from them completely, it simply means a man would start his own family.

You shamed your cultural beliefs by rubbing the term brideprice in the mud. Brideprice is still symbolic in Yoruba culture and it would stand till kingdom come.

Weak article generally.

ReinaFarine:


For a marriage, you signed a legal document binding you two together, so you need a legal document to break it.

Sex is a spiritual covenant, you need a spiritual document to break it.

So without the spiritual documents hell will break loose? Whatever happened to the blood? Or is that one not enough too?

Spiritual documents my nyansh.