forgiveness:


If Kelechi was playing I don't think Musa will have it easy with some folks here.

However, it's only in Nigeria an U23 player and bench warmers are starters.


No wonder we don fail to qualify for AFCON 3 good times and we are still struggling to qualify next year.

TheGoodJoe:


He had talent but he was not groomed. Iheanacho had talent but he was not groomed. That was what Pellegrini did for them. The grooming of Sterling happened under Brendan Rogers.

forgiveness:


I am having a rethink, I think Omeruo is a better candidate for the slot except one of Felix Ukpobai, Dominic Iorfa and Jordan Torunarigha change their allegiance to play for us.

Joel Obi is the perfect choice but I still want to see Agu and Ogu play in oneone of those friendlies before I make my mind on them.

Rohr is obsessed with anything German. So, don't be surprise to see either Oshimen, Bazee or Anthony Ujah.

But as for me, Martins all the way.

TheGoodJoe:


Working hard and improving is key. Not choice of club. Eto'o's Ego is something I hope our young players do not have. It went down hill for him after his fracas with Pep Guardiola.

TheGoodJoe:
Belgium can offer to drop Batshuayi. We are talking of a team that boasts of Lukaku who is one of the most expensive football property in the game and Dres Mertens who is one of the hottest forwards in the game. We do not have that luxury. The Belgian league is developed that they can harness quality players to fill different roles.

Nigeria is not like that. If we drop our players who are not regulars in their clubs for those who are regulars, we diminish the strength of the team. We have to use what we have, get the best from them through hardwork and sound tactics.

Mickael2:



ofcourse Sterling was playing for QPR's feeder team, that one is different, way way different. If he was not yet groomed do you think he would be playing for Valencia's first team? Valencia were top 6 sure bankers in that period so they wouldn't just play anybody for the fun of it. Isco developed in Valencia but you can argue that Pellegrini showed faith in him, but there is no way you can say that he groomed Isco, I knew you would bring this up

forgiveness:



We have players littered allover. Selection of mediocre players ahead of those who performance regularly is day light robbery.

TheGoodJoe:


It is not a debate. Pellegrini groomed Isco into a superstar. You can say he had talent. Just like Iheanacho showed talent in the U17. However, the grooming happened under Pellegrini. As I said, this is not even a debate.

Icon4s:


You better name that player or for ever hold your peace.

forgiveness:


Aiyenugba dey dere.

Dedebanky85:
I too gbadu this your comment. Nigerians are so biased and lopsided in their analysis especially when it comes to SE. We have a very average squad. I was watching elclassico and asked myself how we ever felt that Croatia should be the underdogs when compared to Nigeria? Not saying wet can't beat them, of course anything can happen, but our pride and confidence towards the Croats is very baseless. We have an almost average squad. No gambler would put a debt on Nigeria. We have very few players in top leagues to be too boastful.

eazyjakes:


Dey go together bro....d foundational development kanu had at Ajax cannot be compared to dat of Wilson oruma at Rc lens....Guardiola Shud av moved Gabriel jesus or aguero to central midfield and Silva to central forward and let's see if dey will av d same impacts...eto was to be shipped to Uzbekistan in a big money move in 2008 wen giardiola came but he rejected d move, proved himself and left for inter d next season.....nacho does not av much say as to were he is played like Eto'o at d moment as he is yet to prove himself but he does have a choice as to d club he wud play for especially for a loan move.....all dis my epistle is addressing d issues from d root whilst seeking d best way forward!

junnyjake:


3 Afcons?? Amuse me more.

Mickael2:



you are not arguing with facts, you are just saying that he was groomed by Pelegrini finish, I am here showing you he made his debut for Valencia and played a full season for them

TheGoodJoe:


It is not a debate. Pellegrini groomed Isco into a superstar. You can say he had talent. Just like Iheanacho showed talent in the U17. However, the grooming happened under Pellegrini. As I said, this is not even a debate.

TheGoodJoe:


That is how you were screaming upandan with Solanke and Kayode holding regular shirts as if they will be regulars in big clubs. Now you have started again.

Bia, take your time.

Mickael2:



you are not arguing with facts, you are just saying that he was groomed by Pelegrini finish, I am here showing you he made his debut for Valencia and played a full season for them

TheGoodJoe:


Why is it Malaga that survived relegation that signed Isco and not Real Madrid, hence he was groomed and ready to go? This is not a debate.

Finito.

groomed:
you people should leave me out of your argument

TheGoodJoe:


It is not as easy as packing bags and leaving. It takes study of teams, teams meeting contractual agreements and teams that suit the player. However, the pendulum swings and things can change. It is too early to abandon ship at Leicester City for Iheanacho. His first task is to work and try to see if he can get himself into the squad before running.

Mickael2:


he was more concerned with play time, besides at that point it was Barca who wanted him but Guardiola pulled out because of Bojan and since he wanted game time he went to Malaga, Isco's story is one that I know very well and you just messed up by saying Pellegrini groomed him. People thought Pellegrini would tell him to reduce his ball hogging style of play but he did nothing, he just used his talents to better his system, last two seasons that particular stuff really really affected Isco's game time and he had to reinvent his game all over again

TheGoodJoe:


From wiki
Málaga
In mid-July 2011, after helping Valencia's B-team return to the third level by scoring 15 goals, Isco signed a five-year contract with Málaga CF after the club activated his buy-out clause of €6 million.


Please eh, Pellegrini groomed Isco. It is not a debate. He signed a boy and groomed him to a superstar.

daveP:
If he flops 1match, you'l agree his se time was up ba? cos if he gets back, then you consider him understudy for the younger goalies. He cant smell camp cos only 2slots are left for 4 gks to battle. so where do he fit in

TheGoodJoe:


It is you that is here that knows the instructions Pellegrini gave Isco and the one he did not. Baffling.

TheGoodJoe:


Why? Because we are used to using mediocre terms like Experience and team harmony to justify selecting poor choices ahead of better ones?

That is what led Peter Rufai to our goal and let in flogging.

The best is the best. There are drills and routines to find out the best. Test them out with scrimmage games and select the best quality with limited weaknesses.

If Agu can not do the job, he should honorably resign.

TheGoodJoe:


Sorry.

Mickael2:



you want facts right? I am giving 'em to you. You have been making baseless comments since and I kept on ignoring them but at some point I need to put the record straight. Now you can continue saying whatever you want I am done with you

TheGoodJoe:
We can do it with hardwork and determination. Forget the Atlanta hype, that team was no where in quality to the Brazilians. Two players from the Brazilian team became the best two players in the World by 1998, Ronaldo and Roberto Carlos. Rivaldo later became the best player in the World. Conceicao joined Real Madrid. I think Ze Carlos later joined Madrid. Amaral was respected in Italy. Bebeto was Bebeto. Juninho became one of the best players in the EPL. Dida became a regular for AC Milan. They were far more talented players. Same with Argentina with the likes of Claudio Lopez, Hernan Crespo, Zanetti and a host of other stars.


That did not stop us from beating them and winning the gold medal. Due to belief and hardwork. That is what has carried us for a long while. Our last Olympics preparation was shabby. Yet even after arriving late, we put four past Japan and later picked the Bronze medal.

Hardwork, determination and belief.

TheGoodJoe:


Manchester City's under development of Kelechi Iheanacho. Ye! We are talking of a boy who became a key player of the Super Eagles in a short time working under Manchester City. Haaaaa. Manchester City is competitive. Finish. Even a talented and experienced Nolito could not keep up with Sane.

Manchester City is the best thing that has happened to Iheanacho so far.

AIG07:
That's it! Club football and National team Football are DIFFERENT.
This is what majority of folks here are finding hard to come to terms with.