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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by COOL10(m): 11:41am On Dec 27, 2017 |
Hopefully one day,a good coach will trust in Iheanacho the same way Mourinho trusted in Lingard and Conte trusted in Moses. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:42am On Dec 27, 2017 |
The best coach? "Pellegrini is the best coach I've had, he brought me a lot."... Santi Cazorla.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:42am On Dec 27, 2017 |
forgiveness: 3 Afcons?? Amuse me more. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:43am On Dec 27, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: ofcourse Sterling was playing for QPR's feeder team, that one is different, way way different. If he was not yet groomed do you think he would be playing for Valencia's first team? Valencia were top 6 sure bankers in that period so they wouldn't just play anybody for the fun of it. Isco developed in Valencia but you can argue that Pellegrini showed faith in him, but there is no way you can say that he groomed Isco, I knew you would bring this up |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:44am On Dec 27, 2017 |
forgiveness: All managers will have a bias for something Rohr being German can't but hel himself to see things from a German perspective. A player that hasn't played a season of first team football is being considered furthermore has done nothing outstanding in recent times. Is being considered for the SE that is clear cut bias. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eazyjakes(m): 11:44am On Dec 27, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Dey go together bro....d foundational development kanu had at Ajax cannot be compared to dat of Wilson oruma at Rc lens....Guardiola Shud av moved Gabriel jesus or aguero to central midfield and Silva to central forward and let's see if dey will av d same impacts...eto was to be shipped to Uzbekistan in a big money move in 2008 wen giardiola came but he rejected d move, proved himself and left for inter d next season.....nacho does not av much say as to were he is played like Eto'o at d moment as he is yet to prove himself but he does have a choice as to d club he wud play for especially for a loan move.....all dis my epistle is addressing d issues from d root whilst seeking d best way forward! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:45am On Dec 27, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: We have players littered allover. Selection of mediocre players ahead of those who performance regularly is day light robbery. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:45am On Dec 27, 2017 |
Mickael2: It is not a debate. Pellegrini groomed Isco into a superstar. You can say he had talent. Just like Iheanacho showed talent in the U17. However, the grooming happened under Pellegrini. As I said, this is not even a debate. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:47am On Dec 27, 2017 |
forgiveness: That is how you were screaming upandan with Solanke and Kayode holding regular shirts as if they will be regulars in big clubs. Now you have started again. Bia, take your time. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:47am On Dec 27, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: you are not arguing with facts, you are just saying that he was groomed by Pelegrini finish, I am here showing you he made his debut for Valencia and played a full season for them 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 11:48am On Dec 27, 2017 |
Icon4s:You're free to pretend not to know who he is. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:49am On Dec 27, 2017 |
forgiveness:If he flops 1match, you'l agree his se time was up ba? cos if he gets back, then you consider him understudy for the younger goalies. He cant smell camp cos only 2slots are left for 4 gks to battle. so where do he fit in |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 11:50am On Dec 27, 2017 |
Dedebanky85: Average abi? Na im be say all africa na average na! If we at the beginning of the qualifiers were grouped in a group of death, with each team being former and current african champs in Africa and you still call our players average. Is it because we are Nigerians? Why is it that our things are never of value? No wonder white people came and gave our ancestors mirrors to cart away valuables and lay claims to our heritage. No wonder after over 50 years of independence, na oyinbo people still dey refine our oil. Like say we no go school. Its amazing. All the integration, differentiation, calculus , trigonometry and algebra wey we learn for school, this is the end result? These things were there so as to help us think how problems are related and how we get to solve them. Shikena. Back to football. We came through our group home and away without a single defeat with the same average players and not forgetting that we qualified with a game to spare. Has it not occured to us yet that we may not be average after all? We have seen star studded teams get trounced. Nothing beats team work. If team work got us this far, then to hell with the clamour for a star studded team. If we crash, we crash. Its even understandable if we had lost in the qualifiers like 2 times at least. But other than the loss to South Africa, we have faired quite well and commendably so. Ghana with all their top quality players playing week in week out could not qualify even to save their country. Let us learn to appreciate one another. Appreciate the beauty in what we have. I take a bit of exception to that notion that we are average.or we have an average team. This team is going places but it can only go so far if we dont tear down what we built with our weird mindsets and mouths. The same mouth we use tos say exceptional is the same we use to say the opposite. Which one sef? This is a football thread yes but as much as we like to see it as such, it reflects also our state of mind. Our thinking pattern. Are we building or pulling down? Are we encouraging or tearing other people to pieces? Lets just ask ourselves that. Pause and think...... 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:50am On Dec 27, 2017 |
eazyjakes: It is not as easy as packing bags and leaving. It takes study of teams, teams meeting contractual agreements and teams that suit the player. However, the pendulum swings and things can change. It is too early to abandon ship at Leicester City for Iheanacho. His first task is to work and try to see if he can get himself into the squad before running. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:51am On Dec 27, 2017 |
junnyjake: Did you qualify in 2012? Did you qualify in 2015? Did you qualify in 2017? Now, how amused are you? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:51am On Dec 27, 2017 |
Mickael2: Why is it Malaga that survived relegation that signed Isco and not Real Madrid, hence he was groomed and ready to go? This is not a debate. Finito. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by groomed: 11:51am On Dec 27, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:you people should leave me out of your argument |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:53am On Dec 27, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: You are deceiving yourself. Solanke and Kayode are on the ascendary while Iheanacho is on the discendary. Are you blind? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:55am On Dec 27, 2017 |
Mickael2: From wiki Málaga In mid-July 2011, after helping Valencia's B-team return to the third level by scoring 15 goals, Isco signed a five-year contract with Málaga CF after the club activated his buy-out clause of €6 million. Please eh, Pellegrini groomed Isco. It is not a debate. He signed a boy and groomed him to a superstar. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:56am On Dec 27, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: he was more concerned with play time, besides at that point it was Barca who wanted him but Guardiola pulled out because of Bojan and since he wanted game time he went to Malaga, Isco's story is one that I know very well and you just messed up by saying Pellegrini groomed him. People thought Pellegrini would tell him to reduce his ball hogging style of play but he did nothing, he just used his talents to better his system, last two seasons that particular stuff really really affected Isco's game time and he had to reinvent his game all over again |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:56am On Dec 27, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eazyjakes(m): 11:56am On Dec 27, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: True dat but I did meet his former agent at uyo in September and some discovery about d basis of d young man's choices were not pleasing.....all the best to him anyways! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:58am On Dec 27, 2017 |
Mickael2: It is you that is here that knows the instructions Pellegrini gave Isco and the one he did not. Baffling. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:59am On Dec 27, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: from wiki A product of Valencia CF's youth system, Isco made his debut with the first team on 11 November 2010, against UD Logroñés for the campaign's Copa del Rey, scoring two goals in a 4–1 home win.[5] [6] Previously, he spent one full season with the reserves in Segunda División B, netting once in 26 games and suffering relegation. Isco played his first La Liga match on 14 November 2010, featuring 20 minutes in a 2–0 home win against Getafe CF after coming on as a substitute for Aritz Aduriz.[7] you should say the entire truth sometimes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:59am On Dec 27, 2017 |
daveP: If Ejide can smell camp, na Aiyenugba no fit smell. Dis country can never go places with the mentality displayed on this thread. Sentiments has swallowed people's sense of reasoning. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:00pm On Dec 27, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: if Pellegrini was giving him instructions to stop ball hogging the point is that he didnt translate it to his play on the pitch which means he didn't learn it and which ultimately means Pellegrini did not teach him |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:00pm On Dec 27, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: How do you determine the best Consistent top class performances in your club and league. There are exceptions but generally speaking best players are in the best leagues. In addition I am favourable to a player who is playing week in week out than one that's dormant on the bench and or playing reserve team football. Although Mbappe is 18 he is experienced playing at the highest levels if football and putting in outstanding performances. That is why he is in the French National team. You can't be mouse in your and all of a sudden become a Lion when you get to the SE. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by groomed: 12:01pm On Dec 27, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:I didn't hear from you again about the importation business what did your sister say |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 12:01pm On Dec 27, 2017 |
Mickael2:lol....facts? Here is facts; the only reason Algeria even had a goal in that game is because of a shady penalty call and an even shadier call to not give the penalty taker a red earlier in the game. I feel sad for you that you are gloating over a draw that was not even merited from the home team. You see how sad you are? SMH 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:03pm On Dec 27, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: If Ronaldo was still on the pitch we for chop 7 goals. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 12:05pm On Dec 27, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: And the worst too..... what an irony! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:05pm On Dec 27, 2017 |
AIG07: Club football extends into that national team. The entire basis for your selection to the national team is your exceptional quality performances in club football. Club football and National team Football are intrinsically linked they complement each other. It's like taking a striker who has lost club form to the WC believing that he will suddenly find form. It will not happen. 1 Like |
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