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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:16pm On Dec 27, 2017
komekn:
Nobody is a master of this game everyone can make mistakes and the knowledge of football is not the preserve of one individual.
Pellegrini is a master of the game. His insight and time of getting it right puts his knowledge ahead of many who have never attempted to do it once. We are talking of a man doing it for a long time with an array of stars in his catalogue. Yet someone wants to school him.

I laugh in Indonesia.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 4:17pm On Dec 27, 2017
komekn:
Actually he has not Solanke has scored two goals in cup games.

KC has scored one goal this season in the cup.

Tega Abrahams who has been much aligned has scored 4 goals in the EPL and 1 in the cup.
who mentioned Tega at any point? undecided

Tega deserves to be maligned on these streets
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:18pm On Dec 27, 2017
goldfish80:
The taste of the pudding is in the eating. He may be a fine manager, but he made the wrong call on Kelechi.
Who decides if Pellegrini made a wrong call, you?

You guys make it look as if Kelechi Iheanacho never played pro football, let alone become one of the stars and key players of the Super Eagles.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:22pm On Dec 27, 2017
I don't like engaging in this Iheanacho debate because there are some who will say he did the right thing even if he scores an own-goal. And there are some will pay a blind eye when he does something spectacular.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:28pm On Dec 27, 2017
"Thank you to Manchester City for helping me reach where I am today, I will remain grateful all my life,"

"I will use this opportunity to thank my teammates (former Manchester City teammates) and the manager as well Manuel Pellegrini (former manager) for getting me into the first team and also giving me the chance to play. I will also remain grateful to him."

"And the current manager Pep Guardiola, a massive thank you to you for helping me grow and learn so much. I will remain grateful to you because you are a top coach and I'm happy working with you. Thank you to you Pep and to your coaching staff."... Kelechi Iheanacho


This is dedicated to them that know more than Pellegrini.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:31pm On Dec 27, 2017
"And the current manager Pep Guardiola, a massive thank you to you for helping me grow and learn so much. I will remain grateful to you because you are a top coach and I'm happy working with you."... Kelechi Iheanacho

As long as Kelechi Iheanacho keeps working hard, the knowledge he learnt from Guardiola will help mold him into a top quality player. Glad to hear the young man is still working hard.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 4:33pm On Dec 27, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
Who decides if Pellegrini made a wrong call, you?

You guys make it look as if Kelechi Iheanacho never played pro football, let alone become one of the stars and key players of the Super Eagles.
The court of public opinion is a very powerful one. Kelechi is not playing in a mushroom where nobody observes him.
People actually pay money in form of season tickets and cable tv subscriptions to watch him play.
Kelechi didn't invent football , he will be judged like other footballers
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 4:34pm On Dec 27, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
"And the current manager Pep Guardiola, a massive thank you to you for helping me grow and learn so much. I will remain grateful to you because you are a top coach and I'm happy working with you."... Kelechi Iheanacho

As long as Kelechi Iheanacho keeps working hard, the knowledge he learnt from Guardiola will help mold him into a top quality player. Glad to hear the young man is still working hard.
And the church says Amen!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 4:35pm On Dec 27, 2017
Why won't some people agree the fact that kc has lost it this season??
Why always blaming manager for the dude downfall when it is crystal clear he has played more than 12 league games with no goal not assist to his name..

He may be going through his own tough patch ,he may improve as time goes on..

But why cant some people agree to the fact that as it stands now,as at this time , the dude is retrogressing instead of improving angry
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:35pm On Dec 27, 2017
goldfish80:
The court of public opinion is a very powerful one. Kelechi is not playing in a mushroom where nobody observes him.
People actually pay money in form of season tickets and cable tv subscriptions to watch him play.
Kelechi didn't invent football , he will be judged like other footballers
You mean the same court that declared Mikel Obi guilty on all charges. I will listen to masters like Pellegrini and Hiddink before listening to their crap judgment.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m):
kennysville:
Average abi? Na im be say all africa na average na! If we at the beginning of the qualifiers were grouped in a group of death, with each team being former and current african champs in Africa and you still call our players average. Is it because we are Nigerians? Why is it that our things are never of value? No wonder white people came and gave our ancestors mirrors to cart away valuables and lay claims to our heritage. No wonder after over 50 years of independence, na oyinbo people still dey refine our oil. Like say we no go school.

Its amazing. All the integration, differentiation, calculus , trigonometry and algebra wey we learn for school, this is the end result? These things were there so as to help us think how problems are related and how we get to solve them. Shikena.

Back to football. We came through our group home and away without a single defeat with the same average players and not forgetting that we qualified with a game to spare. Has it not occured to us yet that we may not be average after all? We have seen star studded teams get trounced. Nothing beats team work. If team work got us this far, then to hell with the clamour for a star studded team. If we crash, we crash. Its even understandable if we had lost in the qualifiers like 2 times at least. But other than the loss to South Africa, we have faired quite well and commendably so. Ghana with all their top quality players playing week in week out could not qualify even to save their country.

Let us learn to appreciate one another. Appreciate the beauty in what we have. I take a bit of exception to that notion that we are average.or we have an average team. This team is going places but it can only go so far if we dont tear down what we built with our weird mindsets and mouths. The same mouth we use tos say exceptional is the same we use to say the opposite. Which one sef? This is a football thread yes but as much as we like to see it as such, it reflects also our state of mind. Our thinking pattern. Are we building or pulling down? Are we encouraging or tearing other people to pieces?

Lets just ask ourselves that. Pause and think......
Hahahaha, all these you have written still hasn't changed the fact that all our players presently in Europe are AVERAGE, including the ones yet to play for us.


However, being average isn't same as being an underachiever. An average team can whop a team full of World class players.


As for me, I prefer a team of average players forming a cohesive unit than world class players who are more interested in showcasing their individual talents.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 4:38pm On Dec 27, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
You mean the same court that declared Mikel Obi guilty on all charges. I will listen to masters like Pellegrini and Hiddink before listening to their crap judgment.
So far, Kelechi is doing nothing positive to prove them wrong .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:39pm On Dec 27, 2017
krattoss:
Why won't some people agree the fact that kc has lost it this season??
Why always blaming manager for the dude downfall when it is crystal clear he has played more than 12 league games with no goal not assist to his name..

He may be going through his own tough patch ,he may improve as time goes on..

But why cant some people agree to the fact that as it stands now,as at this time , the dude is retrogressing instead of improving angry
Same way people argued that Gray was retrogressing when he was warming bench. When Unsworth gave him chance and he started playing well, they changed story. Being left on the bench is not retrogressing. We are talking of a player who not long ago had a good game against Argentina.

Tevez benching at West Ham United did not mean he was retrogressing. When he got his run, he lit the league up like a New year night in New York.

Heck when Victor Moses got his run, respected pundits sang his name like a hit record. Please, bench is not retrogressing.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:39pm On Dec 27, 2017
goldfish80:
So far, Kelechi is doing nothing positive to prove them wrong .
Same way people said Mikel Obi was doing nothing to prove them wrong.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 4:43pm On Dec 27, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
Same way people said Mikel Obi was doing nothing to prove them wrong.
Mikel never played for Chelsea U20s .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Dedebanky85: 4:50pm On Dec 27, 2017
Which kind yans be this? If the coach knew, then why did he pull him off? The pressure Naija was putting on them was increasing by the minute. They had to alter their formation to take out an attacker. At that time Bebeto was more rated than Ronaldo and they still had Bebeto on the pitch. So why we no chop 7. I could also say if we had Oliseh them for score only 1.


forgiveness:
If Ronaldo was still on the pitch we for chop 7 goals.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by kennysville(m): 4:51pm On Dec 27, 2017
enigmaticmotik:
Indeed the bolded part says a lot about you not being tribalistic.
Chief, it's really bad to use one person's behavior/attitude to gudge a tribe. And let's try to face individuals and hold them responsible for their words/actions and also avoid generalization
Pity u didnt get the jibes in there....that was just me being sarcastic.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 4:54pm On Dec 27, 2017
Dedebanky85:
Which kind yans be this? If the coach knew, then why did he pull him off? The pressure Naija was putting on them was increasing by the minute. They had to alter their formation to take out an attacker. At that time Bebeto was more rated than Ronaldo and they still had Bebeto on the pitch. So why we no chop 7. I could also say if we had Oliseh them for score only 1.
as at 1996 Ronaldo was rated higher than Bebeto, this was a guy that scored 35 goals in 1995, the highest scoring teenager until Mbappe took over this year. I am not saying we would have collected 7 o, we definetly wouldnt have but Ronaldo as at then was better than Bebeto na
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 4:56pm On Dec 27, 2017
Icon4s:
So why are you now calling for replacements when Rohr himself has not said anything about it?
He needs to, doesn't he?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:59pm On Dec 27, 2017
Dedebanky85:
Which kind yans be this? If the coach knew, then why did he pull him off? The pressure Naija was putting on them was increasing by the minute. They had to alter their formation to take out an attacker. At that time Bebeto was more rated than Ronaldo and they still had Bebeto on the pitch. So why we no chop 7. I could also say if we had Oliseh them for score only 1.
There are certain people who will always see negatives about Nigerian football.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:00pm On Dec 27, 2017
MetalJigsaw:
He needs to, doesn't he?
Where or who is the player?
Do we just start calling players?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:01pm On Dec 27, 2017
Trudy12:
mobi oparaku eventually made it to france 98 and started the first game against spain
You marvel me with your sharp memory. I lived through France 98 and I can't even recall what you just did. You are amazing like them elders here
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:04pm On Dec 27, 2017
forgiveness:
Go and watch both closely then come back and tell us what you see.
I'm a Liverpool fan and I've watch solanke enough to know how good he is... And I won't deny that he is presently a better player than Iheanacho albeit having scored zero goals for Liverpool so far..


But what concern us with him? I don't get this ur chronic obsession with the foreign born players oo.. That was how u kept ranting about Tiago Ilori the other day??

Abeg,the only thing that makes these guys feel Nigerian is their parents.. All of them have their eyes on the three lions,we shouldn't bother about them at all until they put on the GWG...

If u are really passionate about the national team like u claim, u won't stop so low to be comparing somebody like Iheanacho that has scored 8 gaols in 14 games for d super eagles with Solanke that's still riding on his U-20 world cup glory....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:05pm On Dec 27, 2017
safarigirl:
so, people are still peddling this Rohr is a 'conservative' coach theory? undecided
When we hear he wants to integrate the radical 3-5-2 we start calling for caution. Which way Rohr?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:10pm On Dec 27, 2017
if FIFA should propose a rule that every footballer should play only for his country of birth,I will support it 100%..
That will make the NFF sit their ass up and put more effort in developing our league right from the grassroot.. And all these rubbish of trying to rob the over hyped British born players on our face will stop
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 5:10pm On Dec 27, 2017
forgiveness:
Agu is not a waste. Is invitation to the team was purely based on merit and well deserved.

Maybe he was a little bit jittery been his first two matches in very difficult and important matches.

Let us see him again in one of those friendlies before we conclude.

Take it or leave it, Agu could be our future DMF because I know a better player when I see one. The problem is he has to contend with 3 informed DM. That's all.


Somebody wey no use National team climb ladder. Abeg, He deserves a little respect.
Thanks for putting this positive word for Agu. He is the future of our midfield for those who have eyes to see.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:10pm On Dec 27, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
He has still scored more than Solanke this season.
Where? The U23 league?

Oh! Where he normally scores. Carling cup. grin

How many goals?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by elyte89: 5:10pm On Dec 27, 2017
I don't knw y majority of d peeps here are so obsessed with kc issue,shey una dey collect out of d guy wage grin


What if he has injury prior to world cup nko,God forbid anyway, ATM,kc or not, in d present eagles set up,he won't b missed,Fact# grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 5:11pm On Dec 27, 2017
Danielnino00:
I'm a Liverpool fan and I've watch solanke enough to know how good he is... And I won't deny that he is presently a better player than Iheanacho albeit having scored zero goals for Liverpool so far..


But what concern us with him? I don't get this ur chronic obsession with the foreign born players oo.. That was how u kept ranting about Tiago Ilori the other day??

Abeg,the only thing that makes these guys feel Nigerian is their parents.. All of them have their eyes on the three lions,we shouldn't bother about them at all until they put on the GWG...

If u are really passionate about the national team like u claim, u won't stop so low to be comparing somebody like Iheanacho that has scored 8 gaols in 14 games for d super eagles with Solanke that's still riding on his U-20 world cup glory....
And as a passionate Liverpool fan, I'll say one thing

Solanke is overrated and may not be better than KC after all
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 5:18pm On Dec 27, 2017
forgiveness:
Did you qualify in 2012?
Did you qualify in 2015?
Did you qualify in 2017?
Now, how amused are you?
gringringrin very amused.
You made it sound as if we missed out on AFCON back to back thrice.
Let's count back to the ones we missed in the 70s, 80s and 90s
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 5:20pm On Dec 27, 2017
groomed:
you people should leave me out of your argument undecided
Lmao, how can you guys be choosing monikers like forgiveness, somehow, groomed and the rest and not expect unsolicited mentions?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:20pm On Dec 27, 2017
darkelf:
And as a passionate Liverpool fan, I'll say one thing

Solanke is overrated and may not be better than KC after all
Solanke has even gotten more minutes in all competitions this season than Iheanacho.. With Coutinho, Mane,Salah and Firmino there to supply him...
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