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hadow:
yes

Peacefullove:
the stated verse never said that! no mention of " one God " . Get your facts right

salvation101:
u keep asking me for my church, well i attend salvation101 ministry.. I am the church of christ..
Now tell me, are u a Christian or a Withness? Wch will u prefer to be called

hadow:
The verse says the three are one so I'd like to ask u what does that one constitute as

Peacefullove:
I can understand u felt you want to help him see , But while doing that try to argue sensibly .

That question up there isnt logical if you ask me . Many prefer to be called " Redeemer " , " A Winner " " A Catholic " . so If they also identify themselves as Jehovah's Witnesses, they ain't committing any crime .

am very sure when they are asked to fill forms or anything and they saw Christian or Muslim . they will tick Christian , isn't it ? who looks for Redeemer or Winners on the forms .

Even The disciples of Jesus were identified as sect of Nazarene . Does that mean they ain't Christian ?

argue objectively

salvation101:
u don't know wat u r saying. Dey started by being called Russellites, How can dey say dey are Christians wen dey see Jesus as a lesser god. Dey prefer to be call Jehovahs witnesses instead of Christians.. Dey follow jehova not christ..

Peacefullove:
Still sentiments as usual , You make no point .

Christ came in the name of whom ?

And where is your prove that they make Jesus a lesser god, I may not know .. tell me

Salvation 101

a Christian is a follower of Christ.. A Russellite is a follower of Russell.. A withness is a follower of jehova tru watchtower society

Peacefullove:
Still sentiments as usual , You make no point .

Christ came in the name of whom ?

And where is your prove that they make Jesus a lesser god, I may not know .. tell me

salvation101:
ok. U seem to be a member.. Is the Godship of Jesus same as that of the Father?

Peacefullove:
which member ? here you come making silly assertions again .

am only trying to be objective.

Your question doesn't make sense , reframe . I asked for how the people called Jehovah witness make Jesus a lesser god, just state your views

Peacefullove:
I asked you to tell me how these people make Jesus a lesser god, you haven't reply .




I asked , Christ came in the name of who ? answer this first.

And they also testify to follow Christ , so by your definition in the above post, that makes them Christian too .

your last line is so funny, I guess the Israelites belong to what u termed watchtower society . Or Jesus too, Jesus was called a faithful witness in Revelation of the new testament, question is Faithful witness of who ?


You are making a silly debate , trust me .

salvation101:
i asked a simple question.. D title of this thread is all about the question i asked you... Is the Godship of the father greater than Jesus?

Jessicha:


Godship of Jehovah refers to his Almighty personality, being the Supreme God . above all.

Jesus is not God in that regard , He is a Mighty one , whom Jehovah has given authority, but he is still under Jehovah's authority - 1 Corinthians 15 : 24-28

salvation101:
u just answered the question dat ur brother has been shying away from..
No wonder u prefer to be called withnesses of jehova instead of Christian

Jessicha:


We are Christians , and Yes a witness of Jehovah just like Jesus Christ .

salvation101:
i asked a simple question.. D title of this thread is all about the question i asked you... Is the Godship of the father greater than Jesus?

Peacefullove:
Yahweh is God , Yeshua is his servant . so how could they be same ?

salvation101:
but u denied it earlier na. U asked me to show u a proof of a belief that Jesus was lesser

Peacefullove:
I asked you to show me what they state has their reasons , If its same as the one I gave you . then you are the one in error because your bible clearly said Jesus is a servant of Yahweh . Act 3 vs 13

salvation101:
lol...mr errorometer using ur logic, God is a man huh? Cos the book of deuteronomy called God "man of war"?

Stop trying too hard to disassociate ursef from jw... Are you a witness or not?

Peacefullove:
Another error comment, " a man " is different from " man of war " .. one talks about a nature, the other describe a quality

a " man of war " is describing a quality . The same bible also said God is not a man . unless you want to tell me your holy book contradicts ?

So why fighting what your bible said that Jesus is a servant of Yahweh ?



Popular misconception, anyone who speak what is different from yours must belong to The witness , Am not a witness woman.

salvation101:
quality kor, quantity ni. Isn't nature a quality?
If u ain't jw, u r definitely a Muslim... No Christian will say Jesus is lesser than God.. Philippians 2:7 stated clearly dat Jesus took the form of a servant. It was a choice he made. He and the father are one...

Peacefullove:
The person who wrote Act 3 vs 13 and state clearly that Jesus is a servant of Yahweh isn't Christian abi ? no wonder a philosopher said he has nothing against Jesus of Nazareth but his followers who have coined their own version of Christianity .

His followers are also one .. so ? John 17 vs 21

He and his Father are one what ? talk

salvation101:
u can go worship d philosopher.. I was right, u are a Muslim...
U didn't see d phi2:7 abi.. Scripture explains scripture... But we all know d spirit in Islam by the way, it cant comprehend the things of God nd dats y u need consult ir philosophers

Peacefullove:
If scripture explain scripture and Philippians said Jesus take the form of a servant, So Is your bible wrong to call him a servant of Yahweh ?

Peacefullove:
I should ask you that because I have prove from your bible that it doesn't constitute " One God " .

The same Bible said Jesus disciples are " one ". same Bible also said a man will join his wife and become " one " . So whatever you can think of , But there is sound proof that it doesn't. mean " one God " .

And if I show you the proof, it can shake your faith

salvation101:
I decided to pass over this one cos my understanding on eschatology and urs can never be same..

salvation101:
.. Can i get a link to download ur old watchtower magazines? Or dey aren't available? Am interested in digging deeper into those articles

salvation101:
Lol, it was Pharoah dat dreamt, so he was a prophet too? Or Joseph Brothers who understood the interpretation of his dream dat dey were gonna worship him were prophets as well?

salvation101:
Biblical basis for predictions u can't give, since ur watchtower society prophecy failed dey had to convince you dat it was mere predictions.. . Wateva u call it, ur society failed woefully at it repeatedly, u ain't different from those pastors u talked about.
Just like dey had to look for medical reasons to still accept blood fractions but reject d blood itself.

salvation101:
dats a lie, nd u know it. U didn't check pete Cabrera videos or Sid Roths. Dey ain't credible? U did background checks on persons sid roth interviewed nd found out dey weren't credible? Evidence please.
I understand ur society must av warned u not to see such videos, dey must av told u alot of scary tales, dats because dey av something to hide

salvation101:
As usual since you don't know what to say u major on minor inference.. Those who classified the prophetic books didn't say they were minor in d sense of their prophetic power but cos of the volume of their books. Like i said, the books are found as a single book in the Jewish Torah. Now again u r asking if i am a jew, why den are u also having the Jewish Torah in ur Bible? Who where those who kept the oracles of God?
So u even knew about d classification and you were wasting ur energy initially, Why don't you prove me wrong with facts and figures instead of empty sentiments. And how does it deny my faith wen i know i am the Israel of God in Christ? Gal6:16. Facts don't lie, tell me the volume of their works that was futuristic or accept u just leart something new. Watchtower society has taught u dat prophecies has to be futuristic, its a lie, dey lied to you.. I am not a puppet, i reason logically. Calling d book a minor prophet doesn't take away my faith in the content and inspiration. I will still refer to it as major and minor for classification purpose only so deal with it. U r not even a Christian so why do u think u can advise me on how to live like a Christian? Last i checked, u r a withness not a Christian

salvation101:
I just ignored earlier cos i knew u were ignorant of the 5 fold ministry in the church of christ.. My ministry falls in another category wch is not prophetic and i abide in my calling.. I am not a prophet

salvation101:
So in ur opinion, Nebuchadnezar was a prophet, pharaoh too was, u believe nebu could be a prophet but u don't believe a believer in Christ can be a prophet, issorait

salvation101:
U do not judge others but u claim dey are babylon d great, reconcile dat... So u ain't better than babylon d great...

salvation101:
You do not believe in government of this world but u spend government approved currency, u use government facilities.. Issorait

salvation101:
Lol, who is Freeze? Guess he is one of you. We don't know him, we don't listen to him, he is inconsequential in the scheme of things.The most junior pastor in my church is too busy to reply him.

salvation101:
Tell me how many Jws died in the northerner Nigerian crises, how many times boko haram entered ur gathering and opened fire on u folks. If i talk u will say i am reviling. Tell me the persecution u av faced in this country. Why do u build ur kingdom in Southern Nigeria? Go to northern Nigeria where the word is needed most. Christians are building new churches there daily ,am happy to see my tithe being used to further the work of God is these hot areas where jws dread u can keep hiding in edo state nd other southern states building ur so called kingdom.

salvation101:
i asked a simple question.. D title of this thread is all about the question i asked you... Is the Godship of the father greater than Jesus?

salvation101:
lol...mr errorometer using ur logic, God is a man huh? Cos the book of deuteronomy called God "man of war"?
Stop trying too hard to disassociate ursef from jw... Are you a witness or not?

salvation101:
.. Its bigger than ur compression capacity man, Mohammedans worship a God dat works with solar energy, and so their understanding is very limited.. U know we don't worship the same god. D allah u worship is different from our God