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removetheturban:
Jesus said “ask and you will receive an answer. The only reason for skewing across this is because you have no understanding of it. You waste your time chasing the JW. Simply explain Revelation 12:13-15 to me? I am not the only one reading these posts.
You can get it from the anti-JW blogs. Simply enter your request in their comment sections. You are not interested in digging deeper, you are on a mission to smear the JW. I wish you spent the time researching Revelation 12:13-15. So far so good your diggings did not lead you to better than what you were served on blogs. I wonder what aspect of digging you have been doing? Proverbs 26:27

I know you've been brainwashed into believing dat its ur society dat can interpret the book of revelation correctly even wen i told u about Daniel prophecy u attributed my knowledge to the hogwash u were taught by Russell

Very funny question. You are just all over the place. So, in your Bible Joseph did not dream? I emboldened your comment above for you to critically examine how you misconstrue your own self.

Where in d bible was Joseph referred to as a prophet, well Muslims refer to him as a prophet nd i see u av alot in common

You can make the same reference to Moses, I guess. You are seriously seeking ways to smear us and so the blasphemy continues. Keep trying! If the bloggers were sincere to you they would have provided the entire article from where they got those predictions. The publications have the biblical basis and calculations. So, before taking out excerpts to smear people next time, think of the questions that lie ahead. A constructive or unbigoted critic weighs the entire options before arriving at a conclusion. You are not one because you are bigoted and you are simply on a smear mission. Your mind is made up and nothing but a supernatural aid can rescue you. We believe that God has spoken through Jesus and the prophecies are recorded in the Bible. We try to calculate the timing of the prophecy in the Bible in view of the unfoldING events. I am sure that you read the prophecies revealed by the Pentecostal pastors a few days ago. Do you believe they are right or wrong?

lol so ur society is mosaic huh, it is not Christian.. U look at Moses error to justify ur heresy but be aware that the only perfect man dat has lived Jesus and he is the example Christians follow, i don't know about witnesses.

We are not looking for temporary prophecies but our eyes are on THE prize. The bigger picture that is opaque to you.

ur permanent prophecies has been heretic.. U kept predicting days even wen Jesus clearly said no one knows it, u want to outsmart Jesus,

I did check them. Why would I lie about it? I have seen so many magical acts in real life. I wish you knew me in person.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9Y0zoHPaBM

You didn't check nada, u went looking for videos made by ur fellow jw just to discredit wat u don't believe in. I was expecting u to av come back to tell me the errors u saw him do or preach but u went for videos dat suit ur believe nd if i post a similar video u will be d first to scream anti-jw u went for anit-pete

The above is his Channel you may watch him and get some laughs yourself. I wonder how you could fall for these cheap tricks. The Bible says that we are called to FREEDOM. The light is shining so brightly and I am amazed that you are yet blind in it. You are digging to smear the JW while we spend our time seeking God's deliverance and our hope of living forever in God's kingdom. We do not spend our time digging trash. We know that it is very urgent right now to seek Jehovah

Exactly what shekau nd his boys do in sambisa

JW do not control people’s private lives. We operate based on the principles found in the Bible. I am not the one to defend something that I find incredible. You cannot prove those works to be true. There is no need to go far. I asked for names of men who prophesy or perform works of healing in Nigeria but you cannot provide one. If you truly believe in them, you should have. Many of their works are questionable not to the JW but to your fellow Pentecostals. They do not find them genuine. We both read their comments here on Nairaland. We have no dog in that race. You cannot provide the name of your Church or the name of a popular man with the kind of powers that you claim exist in your Church. I am proud to be a JW and I am not ashamed of it. You have no Church. You just have a ministry that sprung from a Church which you will never dare to mention because of the litigations or defamatory conducts that it might be famous for.

u do not control ppl private lufe but u disfellowship dem for accepting blood transfusion...

You brought the minor and major prophet into this. And by look, you have no depth in this particular issue. You just believe that some set of people consolidated certain books and called it books of the minor prophet but you cannot expatiate upon the subject. When we talk of prophecy we are not referring to the minor and major prophets as you know. We talk about the 'Bible’s' Prophecy. So, when I was talking about our predictions, we do not dwell on your Torah and minor/major, we deal with the entire scriptures. Telling me that I am a Witness, YES! A witness of Jehovah and if you know what that implies you would marvel. Just as Jesus came to witness about Jehovah, we tread in his footsteps. Saying that we are not Christians, well, to each one his opinion. Even Christs disciples were called a sect in the Bible. So, if being a witness of Jehovah warrants you and the anti-disciples of the first century to call us and the disciples a sect, we have no comment on that. Do have your fill.

oh, Jesus was jw i know its no coincidence u nd islam agrees about so many things please tell me where he spoke against blood transfusion... U are not a Christian, deal with it.. U ain't different from mormons[/quote]So, what is your calling? And all the pastors who prophesied on the eve of January, do they fall under one calling? As Freeze recently said, does giving your January salary to your pastor represent a calling?[/quote]I know freeze got to appeal to you cos the same spirit dat works in him works in jw too. It is called the spirit of antichrist. Same spirit works in islam as well.. I know u also agree with freeze wen he said nobody needed Christ to get to heaven. Am not surprised

The Bible said that we have been called TO FREEDOM. JW do enjoy this freedom and it seems to hurt people like you.

in one breath u claim persecution, in another u claim freedom [/quote]I never told you that Nebuchadnezzar was a prophet. Do not twist it. I asked you a question. What do you call the message that Nebuchadnezar received from God? Can you answer me?[/quote]lol.. U tell me

Are you having any feeling of guilt within you? Do you feel uncomfortable to be in Babylon the great? Revelation 18:4 will tell you the next step to take. We did not create the phrase ‘Babylon the great’. The phrase is biblical and the only one to feel hurt about us using that Bible’s phrase is surely under the spell of the devil. It is found in the Bible. Why would you be agitated that we use a Bible phrase?

u are more conscious about the devil than u are about Jesus who promised to be with his disciples.. Am i surprised? Nope..

So did Jesus. So, what is your point? If you believe in the government of this world, good for you!

lol.. Jesus had anti government tendencies? Show me.. Same scripture ls dat said the authorities were created by God and we should be obedient to it? Jesus said we are the candles and we should let our light shine before men..

Well, I guess the least pastor in your judge is higher than Oyedepo and Adeboye who replied to Freeze. Who is he? LOL he is not one of us obviously but he is a lethal toxin in the pentecostal’s coffer. All Pentecostal churches have revamped their strategy as a result of his movement. We see it all play out here on Nairaland. Do not act tough here because we know that Freeze is dragging your wigs. Why do your pastors find it difficult to defend the doctrine of Tithing using the Bible? Instead of attacking the man, straigthen up his thoughts using the Bible.

my first point just got buttressed.. Second time too many we know he is anti Christian and so are you..

You should get the details from Hary or the anti-JW bloggers. They should serve you the whole menu. JW are everywhere you could never imagine. You should have asked how many JW were killed by Pentecostals in the world? JW serve as one united organization home and abroad. We are proud to bear Jehovah’s name and serve him in spirit and truth. We are not motivated by money but by love.
In this country, JW have endured difficulties and torture from so many people like you and some even more terrible than you.
I guess you are not abreast with event in the southern states. Do you think that they are all peaceful?

shameful of you.. U could post videos of happening in Russia and u can't post any about ur country.. Yet u are in ur bedroom crying persecution... U r so scared to leave ur comfort zones..yet u av talk about pentecostals.. U should be ashamed of ursef..

removetheturban:
If he were a JW he would have told you outrightly. Why do you want to force him to be one? Is it an offence for someone to come to terms with the teachings of the Bible? He believes in the Bible's message. He supports his beliefs with verses from your own Bible and the reason why you are trying to make him accept that he is a JW is sinister. You want to malign him with distracting topics of blood and predictions. He seems too tough for you.
In the same vein, you have not been able to tell us the Church that you represent. He has also asked you that question. There is no Church registered as Salvation101. It is not known by any Pentecostal and not even Google.
You know that the very day you divulge the name of that Church, you have agreed to desecrate the name of your G.O.

Hahahaha.. So u went googling? Ur grey matters didn't tell u dat i was referring to myself as the church of Christ? u probably went searching for stuffs u could have used against Salvation101 like u did with Pete ..he is a Muslim and am not surprised dat u folks agree on d same thing and stand for each other.. D spirit working in u is one

Organs:
The most important thing you are forgetting in all of this is that Jesus DIED.... God is eternal and forever living. Also, Jesus said don't call me good, no one is good but the father. Allah is the arabic name for God. Christian arabs use Allah as well.

wateva Christian arabs use is best known to dem.. Read who is dis Allah by GJO Moshay and broaden ur knowledge ... U ask a real Muslim if Allah and Jehova is the same and see d argument dat eschew.. Well i wouldn't know if the jehova jws worship is actually Allah anyway

salvation101:
Hahahaha.. So u went googling? Ur grey matters didn't tell u dat i was referring to myself as the church of Christ? u probably went searching for stuffs u could have used against Salvation101 like u did with Pete ..he is a Muslim and am not surprised dat u folks agree on d same thing and stand for each other.. D spirit working in u is one

That is a politically correct response. What is the name of your Church? We are above answers like that. Tell me the name of your Church.

I did not use anything against Pete. It was actually his vlog that I posted for you to read. There are several critics on YouTube but I presented Pete's own channel to you. I did not say anything much against him but I left it open to you to gag about it.

If he is Muslim, it is a shame that a Muslim can actually read and understand the Bible better than you an acclaimed temple of Jesus. He is actually quoting from the Bible and not the Koran. He quoted John 20:17 when Jesus who you claim has his temple in you clearly stated that he has a God.

Do you feel proud of yourself that a Muslim should be teaching you the truth in your own Bible?

salvation101:
wateva Christian arabs use is best known to dem.. Read who is dis Allah by GJO Moshay and broaden ur knowledge ... U ask a real Muslim if Allah and Jehova is the same and see d argument dat eschew.. Well i wouldn't know if the Jehovah jws worship is actually Allah anyway

Allah means God, he is actually right. If you get a Bible written by a Pentecostal in Arabic translation, you will chagrin.
Jehovah is not Arabic, it is actually English. Do you want to dig deeper into Islam as well??
As an excavator, keep digging deeper to know if Allah is Jehovah. LOL You are on the right track digging like Mexican drug barons.

removetheturban:
That is a politically correct response. What is the name of your Church? We are above answers like that. Tell me the name of your Church.

I did not use anything against Pete. It was actually his vlog that I posted for you to read. There are several critics on YouTube but I presented Pete's own channel to you. I did not say anything much against him but I left it open to you to gag about it.

If he is Muslim, it is a shame that a Muslim can actually read and understand the Bible better than you an acclaimed temple of Jesus. He is actually quoting from the Bible and not the Koran. He quoted John 20:17 when Jesus who you claim has his temple in you clearly stated that he has a God.

Do you feel proud of yourself that a Muslim should be teaching you the truth in your own Bible?

just like you agree freeze understand d bible better u also agree a Muslim does too. In ur opinion, anyone can just pickup d bible, read nd understand.. In ur opinion the Bible is just a novel. Well am not surprised

removetheturban:
Allah means God, he is actually right. If you get a Bible written by a Pentecostal in Arabic translation, you will chagrin.
Jehovah is not Arabic, it is actually English. Do you want to dig deeper into Islam as well??
As an excavator, keep digging deeper to know if Allah is Jehovah. LOL You are on the right track digging like Mexican drug barons.

pete published a video about his error on his own blog.. U must think everyone can be brainwashed with works like ur jw folks.
Why wouldn't u say allah means God wen dats who u worship.. Doesn't Theos mean god, why don't u call ursef Theos withness? U say Jehovah is English, how about YHWH?

salvation101:
I know you've been brainwashed into believing dat its ur society dat can interpret the book of revelation correctly even wen i told u about Daniel prophecy u attributed my knowledge to the hogwash u were taught by Russell

Bless you.
Before deflecting, kindly explain the prophecy in Revelation 12:13-15 to me. It is the third time that I am asking you this question.

salvation101:
Where in d bible was Joseph referred to as a prophet, well Muslims refer to him as a prophet nd i see u av alot in common

Well, I will advise that you do your research on it and straighten up your knowledge. You need to dig deeper.

salvation101:
lol so ur society is mosaic huh, it is not Christian.. U look at Moses error to justify ur heresy but be aware that the only perfect man dat has lived Jesus and he is the example Christians follow, i don't know about witnesses.

The Bible said that Adam was also a perfect man. Who told you that Jesus was the ONLY perfect man that lived? I made a reference to Moses and you are suddenly saying that we are following Moses. That is the ingenuity of the heart of a reviler. Trying hard to smear others. The Bible says that ALL Scriptures is for correcting thoughts like yours.
Jehovah’s witnesses are not forcing you to know about them. We lose nothing from you not knowing about us.

salvation101:
ur permanent prophecies has been heretic.. U kept predicting days even wen Jesus clearly said no one knows it, u want to outsmart Jesus,

Blasphemy. We never told you that we made any prophecy. Using that word Prophecy is blasphemous. You just want to take it in that direction to blaspheme us. We dwell on the Bible’s prophecy and we use it to counterbalance world’s unfoldING event. We do not prophecy and we do not claim to be inspired by God. Isn’t it funny when you open the front page of Nairaland to see how you guys are messing yourselves up with contrasting prophecies everywhere? The number of prophecies from different Pentecostal pastors is tremendous. Do you think that God is confused this way? Chances are that you probably made your own prophecy for 2018.

salvation101:
You didn't check nada, u went looking for videos made by ur fellow jw just to discredit wat u don't believe in. I was expecting u to av come back to tell me the errors u saw him do or preach but u went for videos dat suit ur believe nd if i post a similar video u will be d first to scream anti-jw u went for anit-pete

JW have no time to do such. We rather spend our time preaching in favourable and unfavourable seasons. It is a petty task even for a juvenile JW. We are not your enemies. I would not waste my time analyzing a vlogger who is making money off his trickery. I meet many at our door to door ministry. They say this and that and one of them had a dream about me. But when I approached him later he said that he prayed against it so it didn’t come to fulfilment. LOL. Very funny individuals playing with the minds of their compatriots.
Freeze is dragging Y'all wigs!

salvation101:
Exactly what shekau nd his boys do in sambisa
u do not control ppl private lufe but u disfellowship dem for accepting blood transfusion...

Yes, the Bible asked us to sanitize the congregation. If you have a problem with that, consult the Bible.

salvation101:
oh, Jesus was jw i know its no coincidence u nd islam agrees about so many things please tell me where he spoke against blood transfusion... U are not a Christian, deal with it.. U ain't different from Mormons

if you say so. Your views are respected

salvation101:
I know freeze got to appeal to you cos the same spirit dat works in him works in jw too. It is called the spirit of antichrist. Same spirit works in islam as well.. I know u also agree with freeze wen he said nobody needed Christ to get to heaven. Am not surprised

Do not twist the question. What is your calling? Do all the pastors who prophesied on the eve of January 1st fall under one calling? Does giving your January salary to your pastor represent a calling? Why do you believe that anyone who disagrees with your heresy is a JW? Answer me, please.

salvation101:
in one breath u claim persecution, in another u claim freedom

what is the relationship between freedom Galatians 5:13 and persecution Matthew 10:22 ?

salvation101:
lol.. U tell me

My question remains unanswered. What do you call the message that Nebuchadnezzar received from God? Can you answer me?

salvation101:
u are more conscious about the devil than u are about Jesus who promised to be with his disciples.. Am i surprised? Nope..

Do you feel uncomfortable to be in Babylon the great? Revelation 18:4 will tell you the next step to take. We did not create the phrase ‘Babylon the great’. The phrase is biblical and the only one to feel hurt about us using that Bible’s phrase is surely under the spell of the devil. It is found in the Bible. Why would you be agitated that we use a Bible phrase?

salvation101:
lol.. Jesus had anti government tendencies? Show me.. Same scripture ls dat said the authorities were created by God and we should be obedient to it? Jesus said we are the candles and we should let our light shine before men..

That is how you misconstrue the Bible’s message. Anti-Government and being no part of the government are two different things. JW pay their taxes and are obedient to government rules. JW are known for their abidance to the laws of every country. We respectfully object to kill our fellow man in time of war which is murder. We do not salute the flag which is an act of idolatry. We conscientiously object to Conscription and those are a few cases where you find the JW having a loggerhead with the government. And these all are based on our biblical beliefs.
When you talk of anti-government agents, they are mostly Pentecostals. In the Pentecostal Churches, guns and arsenals are stored; Anti-government rhetoric thrives; assemblies are organized to discuss seditious agendas etc. On YouTube, you can view videos of your Pentecostal pastors venting on the governments, criticizing, and even insulting and threatening the government.
We don’t do that. Jesus says that we have no share in these political systems. We are looking forward to the beautiful new world that Jesus promised us in Matthew 5:5.
Wouldn’t it be wonderful to live in a perfect new world in which all sorts of evil will be no more?

salvation101:
my first point just got buttressed.. Second time too many we know he is anti Christian and so are you..

Freeze is anti-Chriminals polluting the word of God (specifically on the Tithing doctrine. I have not listened to him too many times but on the Tithing doctrine, he is right. It is an obsolete doctrine and it is not for Christians). He is not a JW and he is probably from one of these Pentecostal Churches.

“Lol, who is Freeze? Guess he is one of you. We don't know him, we don't listen to him, he is inconsequential in the scheme of things.The most junior pastor in my church is too busy to reply him.”

The above is your comment. You said that the most junior pastor in “your church”(not the temple as your grey matters held) will not condescend (from je ne sais quoi. What a show of pride) to give an answer to Freeze. Adeboye and his son and Oyedepo including many other Pentecostal pastors did. So, my questions are: Have you suddenly had a Church? (exposed). How many hierarchies of pastorship exist in your Church? Are you insinuating that the value of the ‘most junior Pastor’ in your Church is higher than Oyedepo, Adeboye and Zack Orji? You just got caught in a quagmire. LOL Answer my questions. Do not skew them.

salvation101:
shameful of you.. U could post videos of happening in Russia and u can't post any about ur country.. Yet u are in ur bedroom crying persecution... U r so scared to leave ur comfort zones..yet u av talk about pentecostals.. U should be ashamed of ursef..

The events in the north are not specifically against Pentecostals for you to assume persecution. Agnostics and Muslims are also killed. You cannot specifically identify the religion of those killed for you to assume anything. Meanwhile, many of these pastors are antagonizing each other for you to claim any glory. You may be from Omega fire and you cannot claim a member of TB Joshua Synagogue because these two men are dishevelling each other. On Nairaland, it was clearly reported that a member of RCCG (not Pentecostal) was killed (very funny). You want to claim the lady killed in Abuja as part of your Church's persecution LOL. Name your Church first before you take any glory.
The mention of that Church will chase you out of Nairaland LOL. You can never do that. Grey matters do not work here cos we now know that there are tiers of pastorship in that “Church”.

salvation101:
pete published a video about his error on his own blog.. U must think everyone can be brainwashed with works like ur jw folks.
Why wouldn't u say allah means God wen dats who u worship.. Doesn't Theos mean god, why don't u call ursef Theos withness? U say Jehovah is English, how about YHWH?

Allah is an Arabic word for God. Just do a little research about it, please. Take a little time to research about it. There are also Christians in Egypt, Iraq, Turkey, Lebanon etc. These Christians all referred God as Allah. In the Arabic Bible, God is translated Allah. That is why the divine name of God is very important. The 55 men caused a problem by replacing the name of God with titles like LORD. God is only a title. God is not a name. That is why the Bible also referred to Satan and woods or idols as Gods.

YHWH is not English. English words have vowels but these 4 consonants are called the TETRAgrammaton. This is probably the reason why the KJV was edited and re-edited. It cannot be English because vowels are missing. This is the divine name of God. This is the name that Jesus said that he made known. Translating the Tetragrammaton into English gives you JEHOVAH. The name that you abhor. From time immemorial that name has stood the tests of time. Any Bible that does not contain that name replaced it with spurious titles. This confusion is great for you because ERV has blindfolded you.

You are soaked in this Pete of a guy. I dont even care about this guy. I wouldn't remember his name after this chat.

removetheturban:
Allah is an Arabic word for God. Just do a little research about it, please. Take a little time to research about it. There are also Christians in Egypt, Iraq, Turkey, Lebanon etc. These Christians all referred God as Allah. In the Arabic Bible, God is translated Allah. That is why the divine name of God is very important. The 55 men caused a problem by replacing the name of God with titles like LORD. God is only a title. God is not a name. That is why the Bible also referred to Satan and woods or idols as Gods.

YHWH is not English. English words have vowels but these 4 consonants are called the TETRAgrammaton. This is probably the reason why the KJV was edited and re-edited. It cannot be English because vowels are missing. This is the divine name of God. This is the name that Jesus said that he made known. Translating the Tetragrammaton into English gives you JEHOVAH. The name that you abhor. From time immemorial that name has stood the tests of time. Any Bible that does not contain that name replaced it with spurious titles. This confusion is great for you because ERV has blindfolded you.

You are soaked in this Pete of a guy. I dont even care about this guy. I wouldn't remember his name after this chat.

lol, u said Jehovah is English, YHWH is d original Hebrew, theos is Greek.. Y don't you say dat u are YHWH withnesses. At least ur brothers in d spirit (Muslims) stick to the original word dey call their god regardless their tribe. U lie again but am not surprised. Even tue jews who are custodian of dat name do not agree on Yahweh or Jehova. There av been several schools of thoughts.. U see, d bible said lying is the devils native language so am not surprised

removetheturban:
Bless you.
Before deflecting, kindly explain the prophecy in Revelation 12:13-15 to me. It is the third time that I am asking you this question.

even wen i avoided it thrice u kept bringing it up, don't cry wen i go deeper. We r both gonna deflate the heretic 144000 doctrine of ur watchtower society since u want us to talk eschatology..
I wanted to stay away but i don't want u to go rejoicing dat u alone av knowledge.
Sorry to say this though, ur society has deceived you will see shortly...

The dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth. So he chased the woman who had given birth to the child. But the woman was given the two wings of a great eagle. Then she could fly to the place that was prepared for her in the desert. There she would be taken care of for three and a half years. There she would be away from the dragon. Then the dragon poured water out of its mouth like a river. It poured the water toward the woman so that the flood would carry her away. But the earth helped the woman. The earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river that came from the mouth of the dragon. Then the dragon was very angry with the woman. It went away to make war against all her other children. Her children are those who obey God’s commands and have the truth that Jesus taught.
Revelation 12:13‭-‬17 ERV
Now, scripture is interpreted wit scripture
Dat woman right there is the nation of Israel(remember Joseph's dream?) she was clothed with sun and moon were under her fit...12 stars in her head.. The woman is Israel the stars are the 12 tribes of Israel. Just d way dey were in Joseph's dream..Jacob (Israel) is the sun, the moon is Rachel and d stars are the children of Israel. D dragon dat fell wit a third of the heavenly stars is Satan and the third of the angels dat fell with him. The seed of the woman is the messiah (Jesus) who has been caught up.. The dragon den went after the woman who was hiding in d desert for d first 35weeks out of the 70week Daniel prophesied about.. Den it is followed by wat is called the Great tribulation where the dragon will go after the woman and her seed before Armageddon .. Let me burst ur bubble a little, the 144000 dat u r rejoicing about are actually going to be from the 12 tribes of Israel.. Sorry for disappointing you

Well, I will advise that you do your research on it and straighten up your knowledge. You need to dig deeper.

lol.. Why don't u straighten it out for me[/quote]The Bible said that Adam was also a perfect man. Who told you that Jesus was the ONLY perfect man that lived? I made a reference to Moses and you are suddenly saying that we are following Moses. That is the ingenuity of the heart of a reviler. Trying hard to smear others. The Bible says that ALL Scriptures is for correcting thoughts like yours.
Jehovah’s witnesses are not forcing you to know about them. We lose nothing from you not knowing about us.[/quote]Adam was created perfect but was he a perfect man till death? If Jesus has fallen for the three temptations satan tempted him with, would he still be referred to today as perfect?

Blasphemy. We never told you that we made any prophecy. Using that word Prophecy is blasphemous. You just want to take it in that direction to blaspheme us. We dwell on the Bible’s prophecy and we use it to counterbalance world’s unfoldING event. We do not prophecy and we do not claim to be inspired by God. Isn’t it funny when you open the front page of Nairaland to see how you guys are messing yourselves up with contrasting prophecies everywhere? The number of prophecies from different Pentecostal pastors is tremendous. Do you think that God is confused this way? Chances are that you probably made your own prophecy for 2018.

mr man don't lie. As at dat time it was prophecy and you lost about 2/3 of ur membership wen it turned out to be false... U later claimed u av seen new light[/quote]JW have no time to do such. We rather spend our time preaching in favourable and unfavourable seasons. It is a petty task even for a juvenile JW. We are not your enemies. I would not waste my time analyzing a vlogger who is making money off his trickery. I meet many at our door to door ministry. They say this and that and one of them had a dream about me. But when I approached him later he said that he prayed against it so it didn’t come to fulfilment. LOL. Very funny individuals playing with the minds of their compatriots.[/quote]why are u so used to lying sir. Why is it so natural to u? U av no time for such yet u claimed to av listened to Freeze and u found him to av been saying the truth.. Well look at d image attached and confirm if its also one of the truth u r talking about.

Freeze is dragging Y'all wigs!

freeze is ur hero, its written all over u.. Please don't deny him after reading d post in d pics below

Yes, the Bible asked us to sanitize the congregation. If you have a problem with that, consult the Bible.

u are indeed a contradiction to ursef.

if you say so. Your views are respected

well its a fact dat can't be denied

Do not twist the question. What is your calling? Do all the pastors who prophesied on the eve of January 1st fall under one calling? Does giving your January salary to your pastor represent a calling? Why do you believe that anyone who disagrees with your heresy is a JW? Answer me, please.

i believe the spirit of Christ is 1,i also believe the spirit of error is united too. Dey av same tendencies[/quote]what is the relationship between freedom Galatians 5:13 and persecution Matthew 10:22 ?
My question remains unanswered. What do you call the message that Nebuchadnezzar received from God? Can you answer me?[/quote]tell me wat u call it. I want to hear from you.

Do you feel uncomfortable to be in Babylon the great? Revelation 18:4 will tell you the next step to take. We did not create the phrase ‘Babylon the great’. The phrase is biblical and the only one to feel hurt about us using that Bible’s phrase is surely under the spell of the devil. It is found in the Bible. Why would you be agitated that we use a Bible phrase?

why do u usually make d error of thinking u alone knows d bible? U r the babylon d great.. Babylon d great is described as d mother of halots and idolaters, she was drunken with blood of saints, how does dat apply to the church of Christ? U r d babylon d great cos u watch innocent souls die and refuse dem getting blood transfusion. U folks are babylon d great

That is how you misconstrue the Bible’s message. Anti-Government and being no part of the government are two different things. JW pay their taxes and are obedient to government rules. JW are known for their abidance to the laws of every country. We respectfully object to kill our fellow man in time of war which is murder. We do not salute the flag which is an act of idolatry. We conscientiously object to Conscription and those are a few cases where you find the JW having a loggerhead with the government.

y didn't mention election, y r u economical with the truth?

And these all are based on our biblical beliefs.

[s]When you talk of anti-government agents, they are mostly Pentecostals. In the Pentecostal Churches, guns and arsenals are stored; Anti-government rhetoric thrives; assemblies are organized to discuss seditious agendas etc. On YouTube, you can view videos of your Pentecostal pastors venting on the governments, criticizing, and even insulting and threatening the government[/s]

We don’t do that. Jesus says that we have no share in these political systems. We are looking forward to the beautiful new world that Jesus promised us in Matthew 5:5.
Wouldn’t it be wonderful to live in a perfect new world in which all sorts of evil will be no more?
Freeze is anti-Chriminals polluting the word of God (specifically on the Tithing doctrine. I have not listened to him too many times but on the Tithing doctrine, he is right. It is an obsolete doctrine and it is not for Christians). He is not a JW and he is probably from one of these Pentecostal Churches.

say no more, u just nailed ursef here

“Lol, who is Freeze? Guess he is one of you. We don't know him, we don't listen to him, he is inconsequential in the scheme of things.The most junior pastor in my church is too busy to reply him.”

The above is your comment. You said that the most junior pastor in “your church”(not the temple as your grey matters held) will not condescend (from je ne sais quoi. What a show of pride) to give an answer to Freeze. Adeboye and his son and Oyedepo including many other Pentecostal pastors did. So, my questions are: Have you suddenly had a Church? (exposed). How many hierarchies of pastorship exist in your Church? Are you insinuating that the value of the ‘most junior Pastor’ in your Church is higher than Oyedepo, Adeboye and Zack Orji? You just got caught in a quagmire. LOL Answer my questions. Do not skew them.
The events in the north are not specifically against Pentecostals for you to assume persecution. Agnostics and Muslims are also killed. You cannot specifically identify the religion of those killed for you to assume anything. Meanwhile, many of these pastors are antagonizing each other for you to claim any glory. You may be from Omega fire and you cannot claim a member of TB Joshua Synagogue because these two men are dishevelling each other. On Nairaland, it was clearly reported that a member of RCCG (not Pentecostal) was killed (very funny). You want to claim the lady killed in Abuja as part of your Church's persecution LOL. Name your Church first before you take any glory.

lying is so natural.. Wow.. Just within same reply u contradicted everything u av been saying .. Never mind, we know those who lie by nature.. We know their father

The mention of that Church will chase you out of Nairaland LOL. You can never do that. Grey matters do not work here cos we now know that there are tiers of pastorship in that “Church”.

lol, u ain't d first to ask nd u won't be d last, even on another thread someone still asked me today. Well, u will av to deal with Salvation101 ok?...

salvation101:
wateva Christian arabs use is best known to dem.. Read who is dis Allah by GJO Moshay and broaden ur knowledge ... U ask a real Muslim if Allah and Jehova is the same and see d argument dat eschew.. Well i wouldn't know if the jehova jws worship is actually Allah anyway

You need to read books written by muslims as well or watch concept of God in Islam on youtube. It will open your closed mind.

salvation101:
lol, u said Jehovah is English, YHWH is d original Hebrew, theos is Greek.. Y don't you say dat u are YHWH withnesses. At least ur brothers in d spirit (Muslims) stick to the original word dey call their god regardless their tribe. U lie again but am not surprised. Even tue jews who are custodian of dat name do not agree on Yahweh or Jehova. There av been several schools of thoughts.. U see, d bible said lying is the devils native language so am not surprised

Ludicrous! You are a clown. The Tetragrammaton YHWH is written in the English Alphabet. We cannot type the original Hebrew letters using our keypad or keyboard because one actually needs the Alphabet to be able to enter such letters. So, YHWH are English letters but the word does not follow the English language rule because words actually need vowels to sound.

The key to the sound in English is the earliest translations of the scriptures. The scriptures were translated into other languages and some of those languages share similarities with the English language rule. Therefore, through this, we could understand a lot about the Bible.

I just told you what you should have known years ago. We have nothing to lose if you disagree. It will only take you years to discover it. Are you discrediting the 55 men who wrote the King James Bible? The name, Jehovah is in many ancient Roman records so If you refute it, good for you!

removetheturban:
Ludicrous! You are a clown. The Tetragrammaton YHWH are written in the English Alphabet. We cannot type the original Hebrew letters using our keypad or keyboard because one actually needs the Alphabet to be able to enter such letters. So, YHWH are English letters but the word does not follow the English language rule because words actually need vowels to sound.

The key to the sound in English is the earliest translations of the scriptures. The scriptures were translated into other languages and some of those languages share similarities with the English language rule. Therefore, through this, we could understand a lot about the Bible.

I just told you what you should have known years ago. We have nothing to lose if you disagree. It will only take you years to discover it. Are you discrediting the 55 men who wrote the King James Bible? The name, Jehovah is in many ancient Roman records so If you refute it, good for you!

Just like the way you people discredited the 55 men who wrote King James version by putting Jehovah in the place where it was never mentioned in the first place

salvation101:
woah. Just went tru dis ur post and with so much details i can see here, i am tempted to believe u were once an insider. Am i correct?

Yes.

Hairyrapunzel:
Yes.

my guess was right afterall. No wonder he is shying away from ur questions.. U revealed too much.. .

Organs:
You need to read books written by muslims as well or watch concept of God in Islam on youtube. It will open your closed mind.

GJO moshay was a fantastical Muslim who eventually saw d light.. I read books by ppl with light in dem..

salvation101:
even wen i avoided it thrice u kept bringing it up, don't cry wen i go deeper. We r both gonna deflate the heretic 144000 doctrine of ur watchtower society since u want us to talk eschatology..
I wanted to stay away but i don't want u to go rejoicing dat u alone av knowledge.
Sorry to say this though, ur society has deceived you will see shortly...

LOL you sound very pained. Get yourself together, girl! Threats don't move me.

salvation101:
The dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth. So he chased the woman who had given birth to the child. But the woman was given the two wings of a great eagle. Then she could fly to the place that was prepared for her in the desert. There she would be taken care of for three and a half years. There she would be away from the dragon. Then the dragon poured water out of its mouth like a river. It poured the water toward the woman so that the flood would carry her away. But the earth helped the woman. The earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river that came from the mouth of the dragon. Then the dragon was very angry with the woman. It went away to make war against all her other children. Her children are those who obey God’s commands and have the truth that Jesus taught.
Revelation 12:13‭-‬17 ERV
Now, scripture is interpreted wit scripture
Dat woman right there is the nation of Israel(remember Joseph's dream?) she was clothed with sun and moon were under her fit...12 stars in her head.. The woman is Israel the stars are the 12 tribes of Israel. Just d way dey were in Joseph's dream..Jacob (Israel) is the sun, the moon is Rachel and d stars are the children of Israel. D dragon dat fell wit a third of the heavenly stars is Satan and the third of the angels dat fell with him. The seed of the woman is the messiah (Jesus) who has been caught up.. The dragon den went after the woman who was hiding in d desert for d first 35weeks out of the 70week Daniel prophesied about.. Den it is followed by wat is called the Great tribulation where the dragon will go after the woman and her seed before Armageddon .. Let me burst ur bubble a little, the 144000 dat u r rejoicing about are actually going to be from the 12 tribes of Israel.. Sorry for disappointing you

I do not know if to cry or sober for you. Was that an explanation? I will not say that I am shocked because this is comical.
Suddenly you agreed that Joseph had a dream. No more Pharaoh’s dream??
Let me help you by breaking Revelation 12:13‭-‬17 down.
Who was the dragon? Satan
Who was the woman? Israel
What do the two wings given to the woman symbolize?
Who was the male child? Jesus
Where is the wilderness?
Why is the wilderness referred to as her place?
What is the is the significance of a time and times and half a time?
Why does ERV use Dragon in Revelation 12:13 and verse 14 as well?
Can you provide the Greek equivalent?
What is the water that the Serpent spew?
What does the mouth of the Serpent signify?
What does it signify for the woman to be drowned?
What does it mean for the Serpent to become enraged at the woman?
Who are the remaining ones of her offspring?

salvation101:
Adam was created perfect but was he a perfect man till death? If Jesus has fallen for the three temptations satan tempted him with, would he still be referred to today as perfect?

Are you attempting to rewrite the Bible? The Bible said that he was perfect do you have a score with the Bible? Before he sinned, a perfect he was. So, get it right! Jesus was not the only perfect man to have lived. You made an error there. Just correct it and move on.

salvation101:
mr man don't lie. As at dat time it was prophecy and you lost about 2/3 of ur membership wen it turned out to be false... U later claimed u av seen new light

Are you forcing prophecy on us? LOL We do not want it. You should keep your prophecy to yourself. We have never claimed to prophesy or to be inspired by God. You are trying to blaspheme and that is what you do best. How can we prophecy and the same time justify it with Bible verses? Makes no sense.
John 6:66 Jesus also lost more than 2/3 of him company.
Losing 2/3 is not a loss for us. We are not an insurance company seeking profit. Everyone is free to leave or stay at any time. We do not care about filling up membership with just anyone but we seek deserving ones who truly want to serve Jehovah. We are a large army of individuals who love and respect Jehovah, the grand creator and maker of the universe. We are over 8.4 million ACTIVE JW all around the globe. This is remarkable because it is a feat that is far-fetched for you.

salvation101:
why are u so used to lying sir. Why is it so natural to u? U av no time for such yet u claimed to av listened to Freeze and u found him to av been saying the truth.. Well look at d image attached and confirm if its also one of the truth u r talking about.

We are not blind. We read or listen to stuff as long as they are not pornographic or malicious. Why won’t I listen to Freeze that appears on the front page of Nairaland every day? Your pastors are always clapping back. The drama plays out on a regular

salvation101:
i believe the spirit of Christ is 1,i also believe the spirit of error is united too. Dey av same tendencies

What is your calling?

salvation101:
tell me wat u call it. I want to hear from you.

No! You have to tell me. You got yourself in this quagmire. You said that I am lying. You are stuck between two walls. What do you call the message that Nebuchadnezzar received?

salvation101:
why do u usually make d error of thinking u alone knows d bible? U r the babylon d great.. Babylon d great is described as d mother of halots and idolaters, she was drunken with blood of saints, how does dat apply to the church of Christ? U r d babylon d great cos u watch innocent souls die and refuse dem getting blood transfusion. U folks are babylon d great

Initially I told you that you have a lot to be thankful to the JW for. But you told me that we are false. The Bible’s prophecies are opaque to you. Your understanding of Bible’s prophecies is minute. Very paltry.

salvation101:
y didn't mention election, y r u economical with the truth?
And these all are based on our biblical beliefs.

Evidently! We do not vote a government that cannot solve our problems. We have no problems with any government and we do not take sides. You can enjoy voting. We do not stop you from doing that.

salvation101:
say no more, u just nailed ursef here

You guys are getting nailed by Freeze. He is doing a big damage to your investments. Look! This wouldn’t have been a big issue but since money is involved, the pastors come for him big time.

“Lol, who is Freeze? Guess he is one of you. We don't know him, we don't listen to him, he is inconsequential in the scheme of things.The most junior pastor in my church is too busy to reply him.”

The above is your comment. You said that the most junior pastor in “your church”(not the temple as your grey matters held) will not condescend (from je ne sais quoi. What a show of pride) to give an answer to Freeze. Adeboye and his son and Oyedepo including many other Pentecostal pastors did. So, my questions are: Have you suddenly had a Church. How many hierarchies of pastorship exist in your Church? Are you insinuating that the value of the ‘most junior Pastor’ in your Church is higher than Oyedepo, Adeboye and Zack Orji? You just got caught in a quagmire.
The events in the north are not specifically against Pentecostals for you to assume persecution. Agnostics and Muslims are also killed. You cannot specifically identify the religion of those killed for you to assume anything. Meanwhile, many of these pastors are antagonizing each other for you to claim any glory. You may be from Omega fire and you cannot claim a member of TB Joshua Synagogue because these two men are dishevelling each other. On Nairaland, it was clearly reported that a member of RCCG (not Pentecostal) was killed (very funny). You want to claim the lady killed in Abuja as part of your Church's persecution LOL. Name your Church first before you take any glory.

salvation101:
lying is so natural.. Wow.. Just within same reply u contradicted everything u av been saying .. Never mind, we know those who lie by nature.. We know their father

You suddenly sound pitiful and out of breath. You will never mention the name of your Church. The day you do it, you will disappear from Nairaland. I will bring my questions forward because you are avoiding them and I need answers.
You said that the most junior pastor in “your church”(not the temple as your grey matters held) will not condescend (from je ne sais quoi. What a show of pride) to give an answer to Freeze. Adeboye and his son and Oyedepo including many other Pentecostal pastors did. So, my questions are: Have you suddenly had a Church? How many hierarchies of pastorship exist in your Church? Are you insinuating that the value of the ‘most junior Pastor’ in your Church is higher than Oyedepo, Adeboye and Zack Orji? You just got caught in a quagmire. LOL Answer my questions.

salvation101:
, u ain't d first to ask nd u won't be d last, even on another thread someone still asked me today. Well, u will av to deal with Salvation101 ok?...

only an angel of darkness will keep hiding in the dark. Come out of that darkness and reveal yourself. You are publicly criticizing me as a JW. What Church do you represent? I have been asking you for about a month now and you have failed to reveal your true identity. Courtesy demands presentation. When you meet someone you present yourself to him. Only a sinister mind will shy away from due process.
Everyone is asking the same question but you withhold it. You see that you are not genuine?

Hairyrapunzel:
Yes.

You have never been a JW. You are simply a reviler using all tactics to smear the JW. You will agree to anything as long as it is a medium to denigrate the JW
Tell us, what year did you become a JW and what year did you leave?

salvation101:
my guess was right afterall. No wonder he is shying away from ur questions.. U revealed too much.. .

Shying away from what questions? Do you think that he has enough bite pressure? You are getting yourself tangled by that thought. He does not even know that the JW did not make up the word CONSUME. No JW will tell you that consume is a word made up by the JW. Fake JW seeking means to smear. You both are the same breed of revilers. You cannot hold a single topic without being all over the place with lines thrown at the JW.

Hairyrapunzel:
Just like the way you people discredited the 55 men who wrote King James version by putting Jehovah in the place where it was never mentioned in the first place

No ex-JW can ever make such statement. I applaud you for your cojones to sustain this level of ignorance for decades. Before the 55 men ever copied from William Tyndale, This is the Bible hat the 55 men wrote below.
Psalm 83:18
King James Bible
That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.
King James 2000 Bible
That men may know that you, whose name alone is the LORD, are the most high over all the earth.
American King James Version
That men may know that you, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, are the most high over all the earth.

Can you see how the replace and restore the name Jehovah in the same King James Bible?

Do you want to blame the JW for it or will you apologize to the JW for blasphemy?

removetheturban:
Shying away from what questions? Do you think that he has enough bite pressure? You are getting yourself tangled by that thought. He does not even know that the JW did not make up the word CONSUME. No JW will tell you that consume is a word made up by the JW. Fake JW seeking means to smear. You both are the same breed of revilers. You cannot hold a single topic without being all over the place with lines thrown at the JW.

uv forgotten the questions?, don't worry i will remind you.. Nd i am d one posting it now so don't worry about him

Hmmmmm. But you still didn't answer the question if what I was saying was true or a lie.
Do you know why I am happy? No jw has ever called me a liar when I talk about their doctrines which of course are true.

Do you know you stylishly didn't answer her question? Typical of jws.
Let me recap your doctrines and I am never wrong
1. You believe that Armageddon is coming and the only way you can survive is by joining watchtower organization in other words, becoming a Jehovah's witness. That is the only route for salvation is by association with the watchtower organization.
2. Before your new system (paradise earth) comes, first, your Jehovah will come destroy ( slaughter, murder, mass genocide) all non jws ( wicked, worldly, unrighteous people).
3. In the new system vultures will eat 8 billion corpses and thereafter 8 million jws will inherit the earth.
4. Blood transfusion ban started in 1945
5. Holiday ban started in 1926
6. Blood fraction use began in 1998
7. Donating blood for any purpose is a sin while you can use blood fractions gotten from blood donated by wordly/wicked/unrighteous people
8. You shun members who leave your religion
9. You teach that the only way unrighteous riches can be made righteous is by donating it to your organization
10. Your religion once thought that vaccination and organ transplant was cannibalism and it was a disfellowshiping offence hence they will be shunned
11. You preach that 7 old men in New who termed themselves faithful and discreet slave are the only channel of communication between God and man today because these men said they are
12. Your leaders say Jesus came invisibly in 1914 and chose only your organization to lead his followers on earth
13. Your leaders teach that Independent thinking is a crime so you believe it.

Why are you people ashamed of talking about your doctrines? because you know people will not agree. so it's important that you lie to them first.
The only issue we have is the "consuming blood" apart from that nothing else.

removetheturban:
Shying away from what questions? Do you think that he has enough bite pressure? You are getting yourself tangled by that thought. He does not even know that the JW did not make up the word CONSUME. No JW will tell you that consume is a word made up by the JW. Fake JW seeking means to smear. You both are the same breed of revilers. You cannot hold a single topic without being all over the place with lines thrown at the JW.

uv forgotten the questions?, don't worry i will remind you.. Nd i am d one posting it now so don't worry about him

Hmmmmm. But you still didn't answer the question if what I was saying was true or a lie.
Do you know why I am happy? No jw has ever called me a liar when I talk about their doctrines which of course are true.

Do you know you stylishly didn't answer her question? Typical of jws.
Let me recap your doctrines and I am never wrong
1. You believe that Armageddon is coming and the only way you can survive is by joining watchtower organization in other words, becoming a Jehovah's witness. That is the only route for salvation is by association with the watchtower organization.
2. Before your new system (paradise earth) comes, first, your Jehovah will come destroy ( slaughter, murder, mass genocide) all non jws ( wicked, worldly, unrighteous people).
3. In the new system vultures will eat 8 billion corpses and thereafter 8 million jws will inherit the earth.
4. Blood transfusion ban started in 1945
5. Holiday ban started in 1926
6. Blood fraction use began in 1998
7. Donating blood for any purpose is a sin while you can use blood fractions gotten from blood donated by wordly/wicked/unrighteous people
8. You shun members who leave your religion
9. You teach that the only way unrighteous riches can be made righteous is by donating it to your organization
10. Your religion once thought that vaccination and organ transplant was cannibalism and it was a disfellowshiping offence hence they will be shunned
11. You preach that 7 old men in New who termed themselves faithful and discreet slave are the only channel of communication between God and man today because these men said they are
12. Your leaders say Jesus came invisibly in 1914 and chose only your organization to lead his followers on earth
13. Your leaders teach that Independent thinking is a crime so you believe it.

Why are you people ashamed of talking about your doctrines? because you know people will not agree. so it's important that you lie to them first.
The only issue we have is the "consuming blood" apart from that nothing else.

removetheturban:
LOL you sound very pained. Get yourself together, girl! Threats don't move me.
I do not know if to cry or sober for you. Was that an explanation? I will not say that I am shocked because this is comical.
Suddenly you agreed that Joseph had a dream. No more Pharaoh’s dream??
Let me help you by breaking Revelation 12:13‭-‬17 down.
Who was the dragon? Satan
Who was the woman? Israel
What do the two wings given to the woman symbolize?
Who was the male child? Jesus
Where is the wilderness?
Why is the wilderness referred to as her place?
What is the is the significance of a time and times and half a time?
Why does ERV use Dragon in Revelation 12:13 and verse 14 as well?
Can you provide the Greek equivalent?
What is the water that the Serpent spew?
What does the mouth of the Serpent signify?
What does it signify for the woman to be drowned?
What does it mean for the Serpent to become enraged at the woman?
Who are the remaining ones of her offspring?
Are you attempting to rewrite the Bible? The Bible said that he was perfect do you have a score with the Bible? Before he sinned, a perfect he was. So, get it right! Jesus was not the only perfect man to have lived. You made an error there. Just correct it and move on.
Are you forcing prophecy on us? LOL We do not want it. You should keep your prophecy to yourself. We have never claimed to prophesy or to be inspired by God. You are trying to blaspheme and that is what you do best. How can we prophecy and the same time justify it with Bible verses? Makes no sense.
John 6:66 Jesus also lost more than 2/3 of him company.
Losing 2/3 is not a loss for us. We are not an insurance company seeking profit. Everyone is free to leave or stay at any time. We do not care about filling up membership with just anyone but we seek deserving ones who truly want to serve Jehovah. We are a large army of individuals who love and respect Jehovah, the grand creator and maker of the universe. We are over 8.4 million ACTIVE JW all around the globe. This is remarkable because it is a feat that is far-fetched for you.
We are not blind. We read or listen to stuff as long as they are not pornographic or malicious. Why won’t I listen to Freeze that appears on the front page of Nairaland every day? Your pastors are always clapping back. The drama plays out on a regular
What is your calling?
No! You have to tell me. You got yourself in this quagmire. You said that I am lying. You are stuck between two walls. What do you call the message that Nebuchadnezzar received?
Initially I told you that you have a lot to be thankful to the JW for. But you told me that we are false. The Bible’s prophecies are opaque to you. Your understanding of Bible’s prophecies is minute. Very paltry.
Evidently! We do not vote a government that cannot solve our problems. We have no problems with any government and we do not take sides. You can enjoy voting. We do not stop you from doing that.
You guys are getting nailed by Freeze. He is doing a big damage to your investments. Look! This wouldn’t have been a big issue but since money is involved, the pastors come for him big time.

“Lol, who is Freeze? Guess he is one of you. We don't know him, we don't listen to him, he is inconsequential in the scheme of things.The most junior pastor in my church is too busy to reply him.”

The above is your comment. You said that the most junior pastor in “your church”(not the temple as your grey matters held) will not condescend (from je ne sais quoi. What a show of pride) to give an answer to Freeze. Adeboye and his son and Oyedepo including many other Pentecostal pastors did. So, my questions are: Have you suddenly had a Church. How many hierarchies of pastorship exist in your Church? Are you insinuating that the value of the ‘most junior Pastor’ in your Church is higher than Oyedepo, Adeboye and Zack Orji? You just got caught in a quagmire.
The events in the north are not specifically against Pentecostals for you to assume persecution. Agnostics and Muslims are also killed. You cannot specifically identify the religion of those killed for you to assume anything. Meanwhile, many of these pastors are antagonizing each other for you to claim any glory. You may be from Omega fire and you cannot claim a member of TB Joshua Synagogue because these two men are dishevelling each other. On Nairaland, it was clearly reported that a member of RCCG (not Pentecostal) was killed (very funny). You want to claim the lady killed in Abuja as part of your Church's persecution LOL. Name your Church first before you take any glory.
You suddenly sound pitiful and out of breath. You will never mention the name of your Church. The day you do it, you will disappear from Nairaland. I will bring my questions forward because you are avoiding them and I need answers.
You said that the most junior pastor in “your church”(not the temple as your grey matters held) will not condescend (from je ne sais quoi. What a show of pride) to give an answer to Freeze. Adeboye and his son and Oyedepo including many other Pentecostal pastors did. So, my questions are: Have you suddenly had a Church? How many hierarchies of pastorship exist in your Church? Are you insinuating that the value of the ‘most junior Pastor’ in your Church is higher than Oyedepo, Adeboye and Zack Orji? You just got caught in a quagmire. LOL Answer my questions.
only an angel of darkness will keep hiding in the dark. Come out of that darkness and reveal yourself. You are publicly criticizing me as a JW. What Church do you represent? I have been asking you for about a month now and you have failed to reveal your true identity. Courtesy demands presentation. When you meet someone you present yourself to him. Only a sinister mind will shy away from due process.
Everyone is asking the same question but you withhold it. You see that you are not genuine?

removetheturban:
LOL you sound very pained. Get yourself together, girl! Threats don't move me.

U used d word threat, u feel threatened..lol,i am not one of those people u av tried to silenced since u created dis thread, i am ur match and will poke more holes as we go on, u will be glad u met me sha cos ur eyes will be opened to all d heresies u av been taught by WT..

I do not know if to cry or sober for you. Was that an explanation? I will not say that I am shocked because this is comical.

you are shocked? Don't be.. Open ur mind, u av been lied to for decades.. Dats wat d truth does, it makes u sober or makes u mad.

Suddenly you agreed that Joseph had a dream. No more Pharaoh’s dream??

u had amnesia wen i mentioned he had a dream dat his brother's had interpretation to?

Let me help you by breaking Revelation 12:13‭-‬17 down.

Who was the dragon?

Satan

Who was the woman?

Israel

What do the two wings given to the woman symbolize?

exodos 9:4, deut32:11

Who was the male child?

Jesus

Where is the wilderness?

the wilderness is the place of refuge for Israel

Why is the wilderness referred to as her place?

Israel was in wilderness for 40yrs before remember?

What is the is the significance of a time and times and half a time?

i forgot to mention the first 1260days.. Den d time, times and half time is the second phase, 3 and half years of great tribulation

Why does ERV use Dragon in Revelation 12:13 and verse 14 as well?

now its about the Bible version again, issorait

Can you provide the Greek equivalent?

"drakon", u tot dragon was an English word huh?

What is the water that the Serpent spew?

overwhelming evil .. The scripture used flood severally to represent great evil Psalm 18:4; 32:36; 69:2; 124:2-4; Isa 43:2

What does the mouth of the Serpent signify?

the channel for the evil

What does it signify for the woman to be drowned?

she never drowned, the earth opened its mouth. It means the devil was ready to destroy the nation of Israel completely

What does it mean for the Serpent to become enraged at the woman?

the devil angry with the nation of Israel

Who are the remaining ones of her offspring?

its written there in black and white if u av ur eyes opened.. Those who obey God commandant and keep the testimony of Jesus.. Dey are the Christians.. Lemme break it down, in just dis chapter Satan lost the battle in heaven to angel Michael, he also lost the battle against the messiah(the child) now he just lost against the nation of Israel so he is channeling his full wrath on Christians who would still be around at dat time of great tribulation.. Gerrit?

Are you attempting to rewrite the Bible? The Bible said that he was perfect do you have a score with the Bible? Before he sinned, a perfect he was. So, get it right! Jesus was not the only perfect man to have lived. You made an error there. Just correct it and move on.

so because d devil said lucifer was a morning star full of glory, it means he still is huh? Jesus is the only perfect man.

Are you forcing prophecy on us? LOL We do not want it. You should keep your prophecy to yourself. We have never claimed to prophesy or to be inspired by God. You are trying to blaspheme and that is what you do best. How can we prophecy and the same time justify it with Bible verses? Makes no sense.

blasphemometer i hear u.. Ur society claimed it saw new light after ur prophecy was proven to be false.

John 6:66 Jesus also lost more than 2/3 of him company

after giving a false prophesy?

Losing 2/3 is not a loss for us. We are not an insurance company seeking profit. Everyone is free to leave or stay at any time. We do not care about filling up membership with just anyone but we seek deserving ones who truly want to serve Jehovah. We are a large army of individuals who love and respect Jehovah, the grand creator and maker of the universe. We are over 8.4 million ACTIVE JW all around the globe. This is remarkable because it is a feat that is far-fetched for you.

am glad for the lives of the 2/3 dat left, their eyes got opened, i pity d 1/3 dat remained sha..

We are not blind. We read or listen to stuff as long as they are not pornographic or malicious. Why won’t I listen to Freeze that appears on the front page of Nairaland every day? Your pastors are always clapping back. The drama plays out on a regular

i wish u read u previous posts before talking more.. U end up hurting ur already battered image. Too many lies

What is your calling?

my calling is to open d eyes of men trapped in evil doctrines and societies

No! You have to tell me. You got yourself in this quagmire. You said that I am lying. You are stuck between two walls. What do you call the message that Nebuchadnezzar received?
Initially I told you that you have a lot to be thankful to the JW for. But you told me that we are false. The Bible’s prophecies are opaque to you. Your understanding of Bible’s prophecies is minute. Very paltry.

it is ur quagmire, wallow in it alone.. At least u agree i av some understanding in Bible prophesy, u were almost celebrating initially

Evidently! We do not vote a government that cannot solve our problems. We have no problems with any government and we do not take sides. You can enjoy voting. We do not stop you from doing that.

lol, very funny

You guys are getting nailed by Freeze. He is doing a big damage to your investments. Look! This wouldn’t have been a big issue but since money is involved, the pastors come for him big time.

i know he is an hero of urs.. Nd i know u agree to d image below. D spirit in him nd in u is dat babylon d great u tot u were running away from.

“Lol, who is Freeze? Guess he is one of you. We don't know him, we don't listen to him, he is inconsequential in the scheme of things.The most junior pastor in my church is too busy to reply him.”

The above is your comment. You said that the most junior pastor in “your church”(not the temple as your grey matters held) will not condescend (from je ne sais quoi. What a show of pride) to give an answer to Freeze. Adeboye and his son and Oyedepo including many other Pentecostal pastors did. So, my questions are: Have you suddenly had a Church. How many hierarchies of pastorship exist in your Church? Are you insinuating that the value of the ‘most junior Pastor’ in your Church is higher than Oyedepo, Adeboye and Zack Orji? You just got caught in a quagmire.

yep. If dats how ur greymatters interprets it,

The events in the north are not specifically against Pentecostals for you to assume persecution. Agnostics and Muslims are also killed. You cannot specifically identify the religion of those killed for you to assume anything. Meanwhile, many of these pastors are antagonizing each other for you to claim any glory. You may be from Omega fire and you cannot claim a member of TB Joshua Synagogue because these two men are dishevelling each other. On Nairaland, it was clearly reported that a member of RCCG (not Pentecostal) was killed (very funny). You want to claim the lady killed in Abuja as part of your Church's persecution LOL. Name your Church first before you take any glory.

hmmm, so agnostics and Muslims are even more courageous than u jw folks.. Wen u were mentioning persecution of jw in Russia u didn't mention how dey persecute Muslims there too but since ur conscience smite u as u realized u av been living a lie in Nigeria, u suddenly remembered Muslims were also killed in d north east.

You suddenly sound pitiful and out of breath. You will never mention the name of your Church. The day you do it, you will disappear from Nairaland. I will bring my questions forward because you are avoiding them and I need answers.

u can go nd report me to Russell, i wont tell u. I see ur two days break for research was eventually fruitless, u are just starting, research more boy..

You said that the most junior pastor in “your church”(not the temple as your grey matters held) will not condescend (from je ne sais quoi. What a show of pride) to give an answer to Freeze. Adeboye and his son and Oyedepo including many other Pentecostal pastors did. So, my questions are: Have you suddenly had a Church? How many hierarchies of pastorship exist in your Church? Are you insinuating that the value of the ‘most junior Pastor’ in your Church is higher than Oyedepo, Adeboye and Zack Orji? You just got caught in a quagmire. LOL Answer my questions.

av been answering ur questions, wat do i get for it, more questions nd more questions.. While u av been running from dat guy's questions.. U cry dat he is reviling u, u were so pained u were begging for apology like a kid begging for biscuit

only an angel of darkness will keep hiding in the dark. Come out of that darkness and reveal yourself. You are publicly criticizing me as a JW. What Church do you represent? I have been asking you for about a month now and you have failed to reveal your true identity. Courtesy demands presentation. When you meet someone you present yourself to him. Only a sinister mind will shy away from due process. Everyone is asking the same question but you withhold it. You see that you are not genuine?

Hahahaha.. Like i said, u can go tell Russell or ur 7 men in NY, ain't telling you nada.

I have a burning question for Jehovah witness.
John 17:26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

Jesus said he has declared God's name
Which name did Jesus declare?
Show me the verse of scripture Jesus declared it.
Please go straight to point.

Firsty, I will remind you of the topic of this thread. Is Jesus God? See how far you have derailed? You have not been able to prove your own doctrine on this issue but you are all over the place digging for lies to affirm your vendetta against the JW

salvation101:
U used d word threat,

Yes! That is what it is called in English.

salvation101:
u feel threatened..lol,

No! Not enough pound

salvation101:
i am not one of those people u av tried to silenced since u created dis thread, i am ur match and will poke more holes as we go on, u will be glad u met me sha cos ur eyes will be opened to all d heresies u av been taught by WT..

Well, I am not here to compete with you or anyone. The others scored more points than you if we were to grade comments because they stayed on the topic of the thread. You are here and there at the same time and that is not prudence. Sadly, you come from no church. You could even be a Muslim or an Agnostic, I don’t know. I can see how you appreciated the easily accessible information posted by Haryra. You were so licking his feet in appreciation. That was very pathetic to see you go that low. So much for being a match.
The topic of this thread "IS JESUS GOD?" See how far you have derailed? You have not been able to prove your own doctrine on this issue but you are all over the place digging for blasphemy against the JW.

salvation101:
you are shocked? Don't be.. Open ur mind, u av been lied to for decades.. Dats wat d truth does, it makes u sober or makes u mad.
u had amnesia wen i mentioned he had a dream dat his brother's had interpretation to?

You said that Joseph did not dream rather it was Pharaoh’s dream. In your next comment, you said that Joseph dreamed. You are not steady. I am still asking. What do you call the message that Nebuchadnezzar received?

salvation101:
Satan
Israel
exodos 9:4, deut32:11
Jesus
the wilderness is the place of refuge for Israel
Israel was in wilderness for 40yrs before remember?
i forgot to mention the first 1260days.. Den d time, times and half time is the second phase, 3 and half years of great tribulation
now its about the Bible version again, issorait
"drakon", u tot dragon was an English word huh?
overwhelming evil .. The scripture used flood severally to represent great evil Psalm 18:4; 32:36; 69:2; 124:2-4; Isa 43:2
the channel for the evil
she never drowned, the earth opened its mouth. It means the devil was ready to destroy the nation of Israel completely
the devil angry with the nation of Israel
its written there in black and white if u av ur eyes opened.. Those who obey God commandant and keep the testimony of Jesus.. Dey are the Christians.. Lemme break it down, in just dis chapter Satan lost the battle in heaven to angel Michael, he also lost the battle against the messiah(the child) now he just lost against the nation of Israel so he is channeling his full wrath on Christians who would still be around at dat time of great tribulation.. Gerrit?

Oh! Wow wow wow. How else can I wow over this? Matthew 9:36 When he saw the crowds, he had compassion on them, because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd. Reading your answer to these questions, I feel so grateful to be part of Jehovah’s earthly organization. The knowledge and understanding that we take so common is a rarity to people who claim to be true Christians. Oh, Jehovah! Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings you have furnished praise. How blessed I feel to be a JW.
You just kept tossing back to the 40 years in the wilderness to thousands of years when the prophecy written and forth to thousands of years to Armageddon. Etc. deep inside I feel sorry for you. Can you dig deeper into this and probably we could talk about it on a different thread? If you want, it is an offer.

salvation101:
so because d devil said lucifer was a morning star full of glory, it means he still is huh? Jesus is the only perfect man.

I will leave you with your ignorance

salvation101:
blasphemometer i hear u.. Ur society claimed it saw new light after ur prophecy was proven to be false.

We are not a prophesying organization. Suture your words and be forthright. We never made any prophecy you are simply blaspheming

salvation101:
am glad for the lives of the 2/3 dat left, their eyes got opened, i pity d 1/3 dat remained sha..

they are now with you receiving contrasting prophecies made by almost the entire pastors in the Pentecostal. How beautiful that is. Let me ask you the one talking about calling. Is it the calling of pastors to prophecy? If it is, how about the prophets? How about the apostles? How about the priests?

salvation101:
i wish u read u previous posts before talking more.. U end up hurting ur already battered image. Too many lies
my calling is to open d eyes of men trapped in evil doctrines and societies

You seem to have failed woefully at that. So how is that a calling?

salvation101:
it is ur quagmire, wallow in it alone.. At least u agree i av some understanding in Bible prophesy, u were almost celebrating initially

You have no knowledge of Bible Prophecy. A prophecy made about 60 years after the death of Jesus is what you claim fulfilled in the wilderness thousands of years prior when the Israelites were in the wilderness?? What then is the meaning of Prophecy? Are you talking history or prophecy? Do you truly know the difference? I am bemused by such crass level of understanding.

salvation101:
yep. If dats how ur greymatters interprets it,

I see how you are shying away from answering my questions.
“Lol, who is Freeze? Guess he is one of you. We don't know him, we don't listen to him, he is inconsequential in the scheme of things.The most junior pastor in my church is too busy to reply him.”
The above emboldened is your comment. You said that the 'most junior pastor' in “your church”(not the ‘temple’ as your grey matters held) will not condescend (from je ne sais quoi. What a show of pride) to give an answer to Freeze. Adeboye and his son and Oyedepo including many other Pentecostal pastors did. So, my questions are: Have you suddenly had a Church? How many tiers of pastorship exist in your Church (since there are junior and ‘most’ junior? Are you insinuating that the value of the ‘most junior Pastor’ in your Church who would not condescend to Freeze’s level is higher than Oyedepo, Adeboye and Zack Orji?

salvation101:
hmmm, so agnostics and Muslims are even more courageous than u jw folks.. Wen u were mentioning persecution of jw in Russia u didn't mention how dey persecute Muslims there too but since ur conscience smite u as u realized u av been living a lie in Nigeria, u suddenly remembered Muslims were also killed in d north east.

You cannot garner praises for what you are not. Tell me your Church and we will know if you deserve to be counted.

salvation101:
u can go nd report me to Russell, i wont tell u. I see ur two days break for research was eventually fruitless, u are just starting, research more boy..

Well, for your information, we are proclaimers of the good news. The holiday is a busy time for JW because we find many people at home during this period. I was out there seeking deserving ones to share the kingdom message with. Why would I take a time to research for you? There was no question to research on. JW research a lot and we are all encouraged to read the Bible and make out time for personal studies. Personal studies help us to build a closer bond with our loving father Jehovah. Learning about him and reconciling our ways to suit his standard. It is such a priviledge to serve Jehovah, our grand creator. Jesus said that we should pray to Jehovah and pour our hearts out to him. He showed us the way by praying to the one who was able to save him from hell. Before he died he prayed for Jehovah TO GIVE HIM the glory that he had before coming tot he earth. Before departing the earth he told Christians publicly that he would ascend to our God and his God. Ephesians 1:3 says that Jehovah is the God and father of Jesus. 1 Corinthians 11:3 also confirmed that Jehovah is the God of Jesus which corroborates what Jesus said in John 14:28 that the Jehovah is GREATER (not just higher) than he is.

salvation101:
av been answering ur questions, wat do i get for it, more questions nd more questions.. While u av been running from dat guy's questions.. U cry dat he is reviling u, u were so pained u were begging for apology like a kid begging for biscuit

It is called courtesy/civility or manners. I did not beg for an apology I DEMANDED. And if he had any manliness or civility in him he would have tendered it. I am not pained because he made a blasphemous statement and when I proved him wrong, he should have at least apologized. He is not Christ-like. JW would either withdraw the statement or apologize if their statement offends someone else. What is the fruitage of the spirit in us if we cannot display it in actions? I used to joke about the 55 men but I saw that your reaction was negative, I apologized and stopped it. It makes the difference. Legally, one could litigate and make huge cash out of him. We all need to be sure of what we say before putting it out there. I demanded for an apology that I didn’t get. He has no questions for me. whenever he asks sensible questions we can dialogue. For all I know, he is simply launching series of vendetta and that is not someone willing to communicate. I do not usually waste my time with robotic responses.

salvation101:
Hahahaha.. Like i said, u can go tell Russell or ur 7 men in NY, ain't telling you nada.

No longer 5? Are you from a place called Weather-land? You can keep it to yourself but stay on the topic of the thread.

Firstly, your 'grey matters' should be abreast with the school of thought that civilized people end their questions with a question mark.

Secondly, I will remind you the topic of this thread "Is Jesus God?" As a Christian, you are obligated to obey the command of Christ to give to Caesar his due. You should be law-abiding and representative of God. The number one rule on Nairaland is "don't derail threads by posting off topic." You have broken the rule by your comment below. You are a lawbreaker. A lawbreaker is not a follower of Christ. If Nairaland were linked to the criminal investigation service, you could be arrested and sued as an alleged criminal.

So, be a good Christian and stay on the topic. I am not here to please you or Hary because you are the same breed of lawbreakers on Nairaland bringing a bad name to Christianity. There are Agnostics, Atheists, Muslims and voodoo worshippers here. How will they view your actions? It is disgraceful. So much for being a follower of Christ.

salvation101:
uv forgotten the questions?, don't worry i will remind you.. Nd i am d one posting it now so don't worry about him

Hmmmmm. But you still didn't answer the question if what I was saying was true or a lie.
Do you know why I am happy? No jw has ever called me a liar when I talk about their doctrines which of course are true.

Do you know you stylishly didn't answer her question? Typical of jws.
Let me recap your doctrines and I am never wrong
1. You believe that Armageddon is coming and the only way you can survive is by joining watchtower organization in other words, becoming a Jehovah's witness. That is the only route for salvation is by association with the watchtower organization.
2. Before your new system (paradise earth) comes, first, your Jehovah will come destroy ( slaughter, murder, mass genocide) all non jws ( wicked, worldly, unrighteous people).
3. In the new system vultures will eat 8 billion corpses and thereafter 8 million jws will inherit the earth.
4. Blood transfusion ban started in 1945
5. Holiday ban started in 1926
6. Blood fraction use began in 1998
7. Donating blood for any purpose is a sin while you can use blood fractions gotten from blood donated by wordly/wicked/unrighteous people
8. You shun members who leave your religion
9. You teach that the only way unrighteous riches can be made righteous is by donating it to your organization
10. Your religion once thought that vaccination and organ transplant was cannibalism and it was a disfellowshiping offence hence they will be shunned
11. You preach that 7 old men in New who termed themselves faithful and discreet slave are the only channel of communication between God and man today because these men said they are
12. Your leaders say Jesus came invisibly in 1914 and chose only your organization to lead his followers on earth
13. Your leaders teach that Independent thinking is a crime so you believe it.

Why are you people ashamed of talking about your doctrines? because you know people will not agree. so it's important that you lie to them first.
The only issue we have is the "consuming blood" apart from that nothing else.

solite3:
I have a burning question for Jehovah witness.
John 17:26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

Jesus said he has declared God's name
Which name did Jesus declare?
Show me the verse of scripture Jesus declared it.
Please go straight to point.

You should tell us, rather. What name did he declare?

removetheturban:
Firsty, I will remind you of the topic of this thread. Is Jesus God? See how far you have derailed? You have not been able to prove your own doctrine on this issue but you are all over the place digging for lies to affirm your vendetta against the JW Yes! That is what it is called in English. No! Not enough pound Well, I am not here to compete with you or anyone. The others scored more points than you if we were to grade comments because they stayed on the topic of the thread. You are here and there at the same time and that is not prudence. Sadly, you come from no church. You could even be a Muslim or an Agnostic, I don’t know. I can see how you appreciated the easily accessible information posted by Haryra. You were so licking his feet in appreciation. That was very pathetic to see you go that low. So much for being a match.

Oh i derailed d topic? We u were talking about 55 puritans nd Tyndale u didn't derail d topic? We u were crying dat i should explain Rev12 to u, u didn't derail? Last i checked, u were d one who set d tune d conversation has taken wen u tried shutting me up, i am still ur match boy. We just started.. Forget about ur topic or better still, it is a discussion for later..
Kindly answer d following questions..

uv forgotten the questions?, don't worry i will remind you.. Nd i am d one posting it now so don't worry about him

Hmmmmm. But you still didn't answer the question if what I was saying was true or a lie.
Do you know why I am happy? No jw has ever called me a liar when I talk about their doctrines which of course are true.

Do you know you stylishly didn't answer her question? Typical of jws.
Let me recap your doctrines and I am never wrong
1. You believe that Armageddon is coming and the only way you can survive is by joining watchtower organization in other words, becoming a Jehovah's witness. That is the only route for salvation is by association with the watchtower organization.
2. Before your new system (paradise earth) comes, first, your Jehovah will come destroy ( slaughter, murder, mass genocide) all non jws ( wicked, worldly, unrighteous people).
3. In the new system vultures will eat 8 billion corpses and thereafter 8 million jws will inherit the earth.
4. Blood transfusion ban started in 1945
5. Holiday ban started in 1926
6. Blood fraction use began in 1998
7. Donating blood for any purpose is a sin while you can use blood fractions gotten from blood donated by wordly/wicked/unrighteous people
8. You shun members who leave your religion
9. You teach that the only way unrighteous riches can be made righteous is by donating it to your organization
10. Your religion once thought that vaccination and organ transplant was cannibalism and it was a disfellowshiping offence hence they will be shunned
11. You preach that 7 old men in New who termed themselves faithful and discreet slave are the only channel of communication between God and man today because these men said they are
12. Your leaders say Jesus came invisibly in 1914 and chose only your organization to lead his followers on earth
13. Your leaders teach that Independent thinking is a crime so you believe it.

Why are you people ashamed of talking about your doctrines? because you know people will not agree. so it's important that you lie to them first.
The only issue we have is the "consuming blood" apart from that nothing else.

The topic of this thread "IS JESUS GOD?" See how far you have derailed? You have not been able to prove your own doctrine on this issue but you are all over the place digging for blasphemy against the JW.

u didn't go about looking for freeze articles? U didn't go about looking for Salvation101 on Google? U didn't make disparaging comments about different pastors? Wake-up from ur slumber, u derailed d topic a long time ago

You said that Joseph did not dream rather it was Pharaoh’s dream. In your next comment, you said that Joseph dreamed. You are not steady. I am still asking. What do you call the message that Nebuchadnezzar received?.

I don't know. U tell me wat ur society calls it

Oh! Wow wow wow. How else can I wow over this? Matthew 9:36 When he saw the crowds, he had compassion on them, because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd. Reading your answer to these questions, I feel so grateful to be part of Jehovah’s earthly organization. The knowledge and understanding that we take so common is a rarity to people who claim to be true Christians. Oh, Jehovah! Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings you have furnished praise. How blessed I feel to be a JW.

wen a lie has been told repeatedly, it begins to sound like d truth.. The WT has taught u a lie for years and u probably av taught others too so am not surprised at ur reaction

You just kept tossing back to the 40 years in the wilderness to thousands of years when the prophecy written and forth to thousands of years to Armageddon. Etc. deep inside I feel sorry for you. Can you dig deeper into this and probably we could talk about it on a different thread? If you want, it is an offer. I will leave you with your ignorance..

i have given u the real interpretation according to scripture.. Why don't you tell us ur watchtower interpretation of Rev12:13-15...lets compare and see wch is heretic and unscriptural.. U talked about moving back and forth, yep, scripture is interpreted with scriptures.. No private interpretation.

We are not a prophesying organization. Suture your words and be forthright. We never made any prophecy you are simply blaspheming they are now with you receiving contrasting prophecies made by almost the entire pastors in the Pentecostal. How beautiful that is. Let me ask you the one talking about calling. Is it the calling of pastors to prophecy? If it is, how about the prophets? How about the apostles? How about the priests? You seem to have failed woefully at that. So how is that a calling? You have no knowledge of Bible Prophecy. A prophecy made about 60 years after the death of Jesus is what you claim fulfilled in the wilderness thousands of years prior when the Israelites were in the wilderness?? What then is the meaning of Prophecy? Are you talking history or prophecy? Do you truly know the difference? I am bemused by such crass level of understanding. I see how you are shying away from answering my questions..

why don't u tell us the real interpretation from ur WT society .. Like seriously i want to know wat Rev12:13-15 means to u folks

“Lol, who is Freeze? Guess he is one of you. We don't know him, we don't listen to him, he is inconsequential in the scheme of things.The most junior pastor in my church is too busy to reply him.”
The above emboldened is your comment. You said that the 'most junior pastor' in “your church”(not the ‘temple’ as your grey matters held) will not condescend (from je ne sais quoi. What a show of pride) to give an answer to Freeze. Adeboye and his son and Oyedepo including many other Pentecostal pastors did. So, my questions are: Have you suddenly had a Church? How many tiers of pastorship exist in your Church (since there are junior and ‘most’ junior? Are you insinuating that the value of the ‘most junior Pastor’ in your Church who would not condescend to Freeze’s level is higher than Oyedepo, Adeboye and Zack Orji?.

i answered u in d last reply.. I said if dats how ur grey matters interpret it den u r correct

You cannot garner praises for what you are not. Tell me your Church and we will know if you deserve to be counted...

u can keep whining about dis till eternity. Salvation101 is all u will ever know

Well, for your information, we are proclaimers of the good news. The holiday is a busy time for JW because we find many people at home during this period. I was out there seeking deserving ones to share the kingdom message with. Why would I take a time to research for you? There was no question to research on. JW research a lot and we are all encouraged to read the Bible and make out time for personal studies..

well u said it. U said u needed just two days to research me nd i see it was fruitless.. U went googling about Salvation101 wen u found nothing on nairaland.

Personal studies help us to build a closer bond with our loving father Jehovah. Learning about him and reconciling our ways to suit his standard. It is such a priviledge to serve Jehovah, our grand creator. Jesus said that we should pray to Jehovah and pour our hearts out to him. He showed us the way by praying to the one who was able to save him from hell. Before he died he prayed for Jehovah TO GIVE HIM the glory that he had before coming tot he earth. Before departing the earth he told Christians publicly that he would ascend to our God and his God. Ephesians 1:3 says that Jehovah is the God and father of Jesus. 1 Corinthians 11:3 also confirmed that Jehovah is the God of Jesus which corroborates what Jesus said in John 14:28 that the Jehovah is GREATER (not just higher) than he is..

funny, u just remembered the topic, we would get back to it wen the time comes.. Don't talk about personal studies, wen u aren't even allowed to understand the Bible for ursef.. Wen u av to study only wat ur society recommends, u can't pick ur Bible and get inspiration.. Ur light has to emanate from WT

It is called courtesy/civility or manners. I did not beg for an apology I DEMANDED. And if he had any manliness or civility in him he would have tendered it. I am not pained because he made a blasphemous statement and when I proved him wrong, he should have at least apologized. He is not Christ-like. JW would either withdraw the statement or apologize if their statement offends someone else. What is the fruitage of the spirit in us if we cannot display it in actions? I used to joke about the 55 men but I saw that your reaction was negative, I apologized and stopped it. It makes the difference. Legally, one could litigate and make huge cash out of him. We all need to be sure of what we say before putting it out there. I demanded for an apology that I didn’t get. He has no questions for me. whenever he asks sensible questions we can dialogue. For all I know, he is simply launching series of vendetta and that is not someone willing to communicate. I do not usually waste my time with robotic responses..

you didn't prove him wrong and u av also been using disparaging words on others on this thread wch u avnt apologized.. U can keep ur apology to ursef anyway, to me its not even necessary, i am always ready for anything thrown, on or offline.. I am not detered

No longer 5? Are you from a place called Weather-land? You can keep it to yourself but stay on the topic of the thread.

5 or 7,u know d figures deep in ur heart.. Those ur men at NY... Where am from is non of ur biz, u can't shut me up ooo u should av known dat by now.. Nairaland is an open forum built by mr osewa, i can comment on any thread. U tell me ur interpretation of the book of Revelation 12.. Wen we r done with dat den we can go back to topic

I noticed i av been forgetting to post shot of wat ur teacher has been teaching..
Nd please do not tell me u do not agree with him cos you seem to agree on alota issues.. Am positive u won't deny him

Freeze and I do not belong to the same organisation. You can refer to him on another thread.

salvation101:
I noticed i av been forgetting to post shot of wat ur teacher has been teaching..
Nd please do not tell me u do not agree with him cos you seem to agree on alota issues.. Am positive u won't deny him

salvation101:
Oh i derailed d topic? We u were talking about 55 puritans nd Tyndale u didn't derail d topic? We u were crying dat i should explain Rev12 to u, u didn't derail? Last i checked, u were d one who set d tune d conversation has taken wen u tried shutting me up, i am still ur match boy. We just started.. Forget about ur topic or better still, it is a discussion for later..

Focus on the topic and stop breaking the law Ms. Lawbreaker

Is Jesus God?