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ScienceWatch:
Well done. short and to the point !!!!
Finally 2017 is the year when Atheist will make their final attempt to prove their belief in NO-god.

The burden of proof rest squarely on Atheists from here on. They believe in NO-god. Yet has not proved this to date.
They instead beg world religions to prove that God exist then deceptively turn like a rabid dog to attack and rend all holy doctrines.

Nobody worships a "No-God". Whoever you said started all that talk was making a joke, and if you believed it...then it only makes sense that you're a very good Christian.

Religionists can never really give good proof that God exists.

3nim:
Nobody worships a "No-God". Whoever you said started all that talk was making a joke, and if you believed it...then it only makes sense that you're a very good Christian.

Religionists can never really give good proof that God exists.

Complements of the season to you and your precious family, 3nim.

Let Atheists prove that their NO-GOD exist.

ScienceWatch:
Complements of the season to you and your precious family, 3nim.

Let Atheists prove that their NO-GOD exist.

Same to you

bloodofthelamb:
If you sin against me, i might not punish you the way an army general will, if you err against him.

Likewise, the great and mighty GOD cannot punish HIS offenders the way a mortal man will do his.

The throne of the eternal GOD is founded upon righteousness and justice and not upon love. If He let sinners of the hook without proper payment{death} , He{GOD} will err and thereby making Himself a sinner...

God's love was and is displayed through CHRIST JESUS HIS SON. Regarding those who have not known CHRIST. I believe every man will have his chance in CHRIST JESUS even the Krishners, for GOD is just and fair.

Whether I sin against you or against an army general, I doubt it would have been expected. Anticipated, maybe. But most likely not foreseen. .

God is ominiscient and he already KNOWS what everyone will choose and where they'd end up.
God's idea of proper punishment is hell.... don't say "death".

Whether believers choose to bend the words or not, God created hell and his "offenders" go there.

He is well aware that the offenders go there and if he wanted to stop it, he would have. It's not to big a task for him.

So God is satisfied with the punishment being"burning in hell"

What sort of Good God would be okay with people burning in hell?

In fact, He made hell for the devil. He knew from the start that the devil would try to betray him..he knew he'd have to create hell. So why did he create the devil?
He knew that his son would suffer. Why did he let that all happen? He knew that some people he would create would also go to hell. Why did he still create them?
The most important question is why Christians believe that God is still good.
Having free will doesn't change anything because God still KNOWS the outcome of every life.

Unfortunately you've got it wrong. Not all the "krishners" or Hindus hear of Jesus before they die.

3nim:
Nobody worships a "No-God". Whoever you said started all that talk was making a joke, and if you believed it...then it only makes sense that you're a very good Christian.

Religionists can never really give good proof that God exists.

True Christians must never argue with Athesits, they must simply answer by pointing to powerful sources of scientifically verifiable evidence.

Genuine truth seekers can learn from one of many such sources. Check the link below.

https://www.nairaland.com/3414069/it-sin-sick-people-go

ScienceWatch:
True Christians must never argue with Athesits, they must simply answer by pointing to powerful sources of scientifically verifiable evidence.

Genuine truth seekers can learn from one of many such sources. Check the link below.

https://www.nairaland.com/3414069/it-sin-sick-people-go

So, it's another sin? Going to a church of Christ without receiving healing?

That's still not good proof. Have you personally met someone who was sick before receiving healing at this place?

I don't know if you think most people are very gullible...

3nim:
So, it's another sin? Going to a church of Christ without receiving healing?

That's still not good proof. Have you personally met someone who was sick before receiving healing at this place?

I don't know if you think most people are very gullible...

3nim, please remember that I Am not trying to convince anyone of the scientifically verifiable evidence that Jesus's promises as written in the Holy Scriptures are all true. Fortunately, there also are other churches where evidence are plentiful.

Corrupt scientist's has deliberately colluded to keep the masses gullible. This evidence is clear for all to see. But millions are freeing themselves as they come across the easy to find evidence of a loving creator and the Biblical fact that it is a SIN to enter a CHURCH of Jesus with a burden and go home the same.

Jesus is not on trial, fake pastors and Atheists/GOD HATERS are on trial now.

3nim:
butterflyl1on, regarding this:



I forgot the Elephant example.

The man after God's heart, King David, was a terrible Back-slider. I would say he was the worst in the Bible, but if all sins truly were equal then that statement could be false.

King David just kept wandering farther away from the truth. Imagine you were living back then. He ended up getting another man's wife pregnant, and then "indirectly" killing that man, and then taking his wife. That was terrible.

David continued to sin, as though he had never seen God or known him.



But he had:

Pls explain more @ the bolded.

King David a terrible Backslider? And he wandered away from the truth? Pls throw more light here.

@op,

Concerning question 8, the accuracy of the bible:......................................................................It said that the moon is a light.


SO DOES THIS MEAN THAT DURING A HALF-MOON, NEPA TOOK LIGHT IN THE OTHER HALF OF THE MOON?


The moon simply reflects light from the sun, it is not a light!!!

This is just like saying that a coffin is a "flesh eater", because anytime you put the fresh human body in the coffin, and come back after a year, the body would have turned into bones!!!

3nim:
So, it's another sin? Going to a church of Christ without receiving healing?

That's still not good proof. Have you personally met someone who was sick before receiving healing at this place?

I don't know if you think most people are very gullible...

How sad in this modern day and age that Atheists claim to have never met anyone that has been healed by the many true life giving churches around the world.

Is it because atheists/agnostics, etc prefer to remain blind to higher truth?
This topic would have served a much better purpose if it was titled; Hey Atheists/agnostics, How Much Can You Really Say To Defend Your believes?

ScienceWatch:
How sad in this modern day and age that Atheists claim to have never met anyone that has been healed by the many true life giving churches around the world.

Is it because atheists/agnostics, etc prefer to remain blind to higher truth?
This topic would have served a much better purpose if it was titled; Hey Atheists/agnostics, How Much Can You Really Say To Defend Your believes?

So do you know anyone who was healed at one of these healing centers? Someone who's problem you knew of before the healing?

Niflheim:
SO DOES THIS MEAN THAT DURING A HALF-MOON, NEPA TOOK LIGHT IN THE OTHER HALF OF THE MOON?

Lmao!

godisgood200:
Pls explain more @ the bolded.

King David a terrible Backslider? And he wandered away from the truth? Pls throw more light here.

Imagine you were living back then. He ended up getting another man's wife pregnant, and then "indirectly" killing that man, and then taking his wife. That was terrible.

Unless the truth was hidden somewhere in what he was doing at that time, he was wandering away.

If you read around that post, you'd understand that I wrote that with reference to someone's idea that children of God don't backslide...

3nim:

Imagine you were living back then. He ended up getting another man's wife pregnant, and then "indirectly" killing that man, and then taking his wife. That was terrible.

Unless the truth was hidden somewhere in what he was doing at that time, he was wandering away.

If you read around that post, you'd understand that I wrote that with reference to someone's idea that children of God don't backslide...

I see. But it's not as you put it. That we become Christians does not totally and instantly absolves us from falling back into sin. Relapsing into sin is like a baby learning to use his potty but sometimes forgets and wees or poos on himself.

It gets to time in a Child's life that when he Wees on the bed he feels ashamed and does everything to stop, so also with Children of God, they get to mess themselves once in a while until they fully grow. What that means is it is the PROCESS OF GROWTH, not backsliding.

David committed that sin once, when he was reprimanded for it, he quickly repented and never went back to it. So, you can't say he wandered away. Wandering away means, he never repented and was never restored.

David never repeated a sin, never. When he realizes that has sinned, he turns back completely. That is what our father requires from us.

There's no sin that is not terrible before YHWH, because every sin is a transgression of the law.

What David did is equals to lying, or cheating or envy or malice. The same weight of recompense.

No Christian who got an encounter before conversion can backslide. If you only you what it means to live in Christ even for a day, you'd never wish for anything else.

There's nothing like it. What wil you be backsliding to? Conversion comes with conviction. Conviction of what? Or about what? If you can answer that question then you'd get a clue why No Christian (Not church goer) can not backslide.

godisgood200:
I see. But it's not as you put it. That we become Christians does not totally and instantly absolves us from falling back into sin. Relapsing into sin is like a baby learning to use his potty but sometimes forgets and wees or poos on himself.

What that means is it is the PROCESS OF GROWTH, not backsliding.

Then what does it mean to backslide? That word is used by Christians.

So, you can't say he wandered away. Wandering away means, he never repented and was never restored.

Those were not my words

James 5:19-20 New International Version (NIV)
19 My brothers and sisters, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring that person back , 20 remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of their way will save them from death and cover over a multitude of sins

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David never repeated a sin, never. When he realizes that has sinned, he turns back completely. That is what our father requires from us.

Someone said we don't have the power to resist temptation...

There's no sin that is not terrible before YHWH, because every sin is a transgression of the law.

What David did is equals to lying, or cheating or envy or malice. The same weight of recompense.

I know that all sins are equal.


No Christian who got an encounter before conversion can backslide. If you only you what it means to live in Christ even for a day, you'd never wish for anything else.

There's nothing like it.

I'd like to know more about it

3nim:
Then what does it mean to backslide? That word is used by Christians.

To backslide means to reject God and His ways. To turn back to idols that one abandoned before. For example, there are threads here filled with people who claimed they were once Christians, if they were really Christians and had the encounters and the experinces detailed in Hebrews 6:4-6. but today say there is no God, and are now atheists or mystics as must of them are, then, they have backslid.

A lady came here claiming she had been a Christian for 40 years, filled with the Holy Ghost, performed miracles in the name of Jesus, but today, she married a muslim and discovered that the God of the Bible is not God, so says all manner of things against Jesus. that is backsliding.

3nim:
Those were not my words

Whose are they then? because i copied you.

3nim:
Someone said we don't have the power to resist temptation.

We don't. No human on their own without the help of the Holy Spirit can resist temptations. Never. That's because Sin has been the only Nature we knew. To stay away from the only thing you know is hard. We live in sin not knowing it was harmful to us, but now we are told to stop, how can we if we are not given the enablement to do it?

Romans 7 from 1 to the end explains it better. You can't resist sin except the Holy Spirit helps you.

3nim:
I know that all sins are equal

Yep.

3nim:
I'd like to know more about it

Ask and you shall receive. Seek and you shall find, knock the door shall be opened.

It is real, very real. In working/walking with God, do not give God terms on how to work with you. Find your place and stay there. Walking with God is patient.

Observing people who claimed they had been Christians in this forum, i observe PRIDE in them. No one can walk with God in Pride. Anyone who have pride will tell God what He should do for them, when it doesn't happen, (because God is no respecter of persons), they come off maligning God. Saying God failed them or He does not exist. In prayers, you don't tell God what to do, how to do it or when to do it.

You just make your request known and you leave Him to decide, when, and how to do it.
But arrogant people demand for things outside of God's will but expecting that God will go out of His way to do it for them becos they had been in Church for years.

Keep Pride far away from you.

First desire to be Baptised in the Holy Ghost, that's if you have genuinely repented from your sins.

Pls NOTE, don't ever beat yourself when you mess yourself up again by falling into sin. You'd see yourself falling, but do not excuse it. Do not enjoy it to remian in it. Quickly get up like King David, and ask for help to over come it. Do not think because you have sinned God will condemn you, No, he does not cindemn, he convicts, He pulls you out.

Guilt comes from satan not God. Somemany fall back into sin, but allow guilty to take over, believing, God won't forgive them, they remian in the dark in sin.

When you sin, cry out, talk to someone about it. Satan hates being exposed. When you expose him, you demoralise him. So, don't be ashamed to say, i fell into fornication again o, pls i need prayers.

And, say it to someone who is spiritually grown o, not a baby gossiping Christian. lol. They are many pretrnding to be grown.

I asked to be taught meditation so many years ago, i just got it recently.

Ask for whatever, but check if it is in accordance with the Will if God. Don't ask anything outside his Will. Walk according His instructions. Your degree means nothing to Him. Keep your intelligence to Man only, not to God.

Again, i say, ask.

3nim:
Then what does it mean to backslide? That word is used by Christians.



Those were not my words
.

Someone said we don't have the power to resist temptation...



I know that all sins are equal.


No Christian who got an encounter before conversion can backslide. If you only you what it means to live in Christ even for a day, you'd never wish for anything else.



I'd like to know more about it

God's arms are still open for you.
The gift of eternal life is provided for all, it doesn't matter what you have done in the past or what others have done to you God can forgive you and heal you.
Man cannot change himself only the creator can do it for you. If you accept Jesus as your saviour he will forgive, heal and cleanse you. He will give you eternal life and you will never lose him, only if you can trust him. God doesn't force himself on people but provide evidence for his of himself to them in various ways the we can all understand but he knows those that are his. Those who will respond to him. Are you one of them?,receive the love of God today? God never created hell for you. If you accept Jesus you will never end up in hell.

Niflheim:
@op,

Concerning question 8, the accuracy of the bible:......................................................................It said that the moon is a light.


SO DOES THIS MEAN THAT DURING A HALF-MOON, NEPA TOOK LIGHT IN THE OTHER HALF OF THE MOON?


The moon simply reflects light from the sun, it is not a light!!!

This is just like saying that a coffin is a "flesh eater", because anytime you put the fresh human body in the coffin, and come back after a year, the body would have turned into bones!!!

It is true that the moon gets its light from the sun, does that in anyway makes the light not for the moon? Why do we say moonlight instead of sunlight at night? huh!

Christ said we{believers} are the light of the world. But we know we have no light without our source JESUS.

My point is this: The Sun gives the Moon light. Yes, but immediately it gets to moon, it has become the light of the moon.. The moon receives it and uses it.

ScienceWatch:
Complements of the season to you and your precious family, 3nim.

Let Atheists prove that their NO-GOD exist.

I will employ the tactics you'd use in proving Oluwaseun ain't the president of Nigeria

adepeter2027:
I will employ the tactics you'd use in proving Oluwaseun ain't the president of Nigeria

Haha.

Nigga, how've you been? I've not been seeing you around.

Happy new year.

Sorry for erasing your comment... God created Lucifer now known as Satan for a righteous course.. He was perfect until darkness was found in him...

God made satan with a mind of his own. He{satan} was capable of reasoning and conceiving things like we humans do. Why did GOD made Satan when He already knows that Satan will rebel?

Well, that i don't know. Some things is hidden and veiled from us... God reveals only the things He knows that will be of benefit to us now.

Tozara:
Haha.

LoL

Nigga, how've you been? I've not beenI have seeing you around.

I'm good and you.?
Yeah, I have been busy lately with school schedules. Besides, religion section is now reeked with old bullsh!ts jare. Recycled jargon.

Happy new year.

Same to you big bro.

adepeter2027:
LoL

I'm good and you.?
Yeah, I have been busy lately with school schedules.

i'm good too.
Alright. All the best, bro.

Besides, religion section is now reeked with old bullsh!ts jare. Recycled jargon.

Lol. Exactly. I've abandoned the shitligion section almost totally. It's a waste of time.

Same to you big bro.

Haha. Thanks, bigger bro.

Tozara:
i'm good too.
Alright. All the best, bro.

Lol. Exactly. I've abandoned the shitligion section almost totally. It's a waste of time.

Haha. Thanks, bigger bro.

which section on NL do you now patronise aside ROMANCE cos I wanna migrate as well.?

adepeter2027:
which section on NL do you now patronise aside ROMANCE cos I wanna migrate as well.?

Lol.

Foreign Affairs, and Nairaland Homepage.

adepeter2027:
which section on NL do you now patronise aside ROMANCE cos I wanna migrate as well.?

But I've seen your posts in romance
Lol, don't mind me,

adepeter2027:
I will employ the tactics you'd use in proving Oluwaseun ain't the president of Nigeria

Compliments of the season tom you and your family.
It is 2018 the year of the Tiger. I wish you all the best with these long awaited tactics. Start by questioning the reality of Atheists NO-god.

It is simply about verified or verifiable evidence. The highly esteemed Kingebukasblog, is too wise to waste his time converting people to superior truths.
Spiritual things are not mans work. Man can only experience it and relay that experience with his faulty language and secular definitions and the listener will make it worst by bad interpretations etc, etc.

ScienceWatch:
Compliments of the season tom you and your family.
It is 2018 the year of the Tiger. I wish you all the best with these long awaited tactics. Start by questioning the reality of Atheists NO-god.

Happy 2018 to you bro

Spiritual things are not mans work. Man can only experience it and relay that experience with his faulty language and secular definitions and the listener will make it worst by bad interpretations etc, etc.

I'm happy with the emboldened cos we both can't reach a consensus

Daeylar:
But I've seen your posts in romance
Lol, don't mind me,

LoL

I was much active on romance section using my previous moniker adepeter26 before that mumu mod, mydn placed it on "eternal" bann.

adepeter2027:
Happy 2018 to you bro
I'm happy with the emboldened cos we both can't reach a consensus

Thanks Adepeter, Let your 2018 be awesome.

As a side note; No one can learn or understand spiritual things, without practical demonstrations of that reality. No one can do it. It will always remain ineffective to both the teacher and the student.
Most true religions has at it source a powerful spiritual component. If the spiritual manifestations can not be demonstrated by the teacher, he is a fake. He does not belong in that position.

Tozara:
i'm good too.
Alright. All the best, bro.

Lol. Exactly. I've abandoned the shitligion section almost totally. It's a waste of time.

Haha. Thanks, bigger bro.

You may have missed the new and improved way true Christians will respond to mocking Atheists in 2018.

CHRISTIANS and MUSLIMS, BE WARNED. TOPICS LIKE THIS ARE A TRAP.
REFUSE TO ANSWER athesits, agnotics, etc questions about your superior faith. Rather let them answer your deep questions. You are the head and not the tail !
Ask them over and over to spell out what they have to offer humanity Vs your religion your God.
Science wants to be your new fraudulent god.