Icon79:
I actually laughed out loud when I saw this list. I am not saying that it's an illegitimate list but I hope that you guys know how to analyze/interpret the listing.

A quick browse through the list shows it seems to be based mostly on contract length and age. Seems to ignore ability entirely. How else could you have Ndidi (51) ranked as more valuable than Toni Kroos (53). Is Wijnaldum (44) really worth more than Isco (45)? Oxlade Chamberlain (65) better than Verratti (78)? Dele Alli (6) better than Gabriel Jesus (17)? LOL Nathan Redmond (89) ranked above David silva, coman, Asensio, Alderweireld and kimmich??

Anyway, my point is, don't just take the raw scores (numbers) and run with them because, as my mom would say, "half education is dangerous".


O pari

I would take u seriously if you knew what prompted that post.

Did u read Golfish's assertion on the value of Nigerian players, some time last year? The basis of his argument? His reasons (facts) etc? If u didn't, I advise u steer clear. U must not quote every post

forgiveness:


Report: Iheanacho Earning N2.9B A Year, Leicester Regret Signing Striker?

Published: January 08, 2018

Leicester City are willing to offload Nigeria international Kelechi Iheanacho in the January transfer window.

According to The Sun, the Foxes have admitted they made a mistake and are prepared to let Kelechi Iheanacho leave - even if it means making a loss on the £25million striker.

It is claimed that the stumbling block to a proposed departure from the King Power Stadium is that Iheanacho currently earns around £115,000-a-week (or N2.9 billion a year), which might not be matched by an interested European club.

The former Manchester City starlet was out of favour under manager Craig Shakespeare, before he was declared surplus to requirements by new boss Claude Puel.

The 21-year-old's game time has been inconsistent, with only two Premier League starts against Huddersfield Town and West Brom.

Last summer, French club Monaco were interested in Iheanacho's signature but he preferred a move to Leicester City.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel




http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=26097

why is he earning 115k a week? Pesin wey no dey kick ball?

They should cut his wages if need be, he no kuku get wife and children, wetin e dey use him money do?

If Iheanacho's brain is functioning well, he would tell his agent to find him a club, anyone at all. The contract should include that they must play him for a certain period of time, he should be willing to slash his pay, but playing time must be part of his contract.....this is if his brain is functioning well, of course

safarigirl:
why is he earning 115k a week? Pesin wey no dey kick ball?

They should cut his wages if need be, he no kuku get wife and children, wetin e dey use him money do?

If Iheanacho's brain is functioning well, he would tell his agent to find him a club, anyone at all. The contract should include that they must play him for a certain period of time, he should be willing to slash his pay, but playing time must be part of his contract.....this is if his brain is functioning well, of course

that why he is not bother about sitting on the bench

forgiveness:


Iwobi Rated Arsenal's Worst Player Vs Forest, Stats That Show He May Be Replaced By Nelson
Published: January 07, 2018



Alex Iwobi's dip in form worsened in Arsenal's humiliating 4-2 loss to Nottingham Forest in the third round of the FA Cup on Sunday evening so much so that he was rated the joint-worst Gunners player on the pitch.

With Mesut Ozil rested, the Nigeria international was supposed to be his team's playmaker but he was so poor that Arsenal fans were left scratching their heads.

None of Iwobi's three shots was on target against Forest, he had a passing accuracy of 85.5 percent and his defensive frailties and lack of creativity were exposed after making only one tackle and winning one foul for his side.

Comparing Iwobi's performance to Reiss Nelson, who is being tipped to replace the Nigerian in the first team, the 18-year-old made four key passes, had 11 touches more, passing accuracy 88.4 percent, made four tackles and won three fouls.

In the player ratings by Football.London, Iwobi was awarded three out of ten marks, along with central defenders Rob Holding and Per Mertesacker.

''Another poor performance from a player horribly out of form. Played in a deeper role than normal but couldn't influence the game,'' Charles Watts wrote on Iwobi.

In Iwobi's last 18 outings for Arsenal in all competitions, he has scored only one goal.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel


http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=26087.

The last time I posted a data comparing 6 players that can play Mikel's role, someone rubbish the report eventhough the data was gotten from an independent source.

Behold, it is what they used up there to evaluate the performance of a Player.

Iwobi style of play is one two touch. He can't play like Mikel though he brings another flavour to the team.

I watched him played yesterday and I can see he played the deep attacking midfield role but he could not influence the game neither did he create any chance.

I think he is better a SS and somehow a big game player.

However, I fear for our team if Mikel is not available for a game during the WC. Who will play his role effectively?

I know people will call for my head if I suggest Raheem Lawal hence the need to look Josh Onomah's way.

I think Josh Onomah should be given the chance to prove himself.

enomakos:
that why he is not bother about sitting on the bench

sometimes, e dey do me like say Kelechi na my younger brother, I for dey slap slap am every time

If he reads his Social Media messages, I would have been a major troll on his page, but I no fit dey crase on top pesin wey no go even see my crase

chrisooblog:


I would advise him to stay in holland so he can continue to enjoy first team football. Hopefully a good performance at the world cup should see his stock rise which could mean better offers from other clubs.

If he goes to benfica there's no guarantee he'll get playing time or that he would have settled down while he might get good playing time I wouldn't want the physicality of the championship to cause any unnecessary injury to him so close to the world cup

i agreed ,the young man shall remain in Holland still after the worldcup

What a Relief?!...... Safarigirl quoted a Forgiveness Post, and fairly criticized Iheanacho?! This is a Sign that Eagles will win this Year Edition of CHAN!

Thanks to everyone that mediates and brings Decorum back to the Thread!

One Love!

krattoss:
we have asked u time without number and we I'll still ask u again..

iwobi is underperforming. .

WHAT DO U SUGGEST WE DO OR TO BE DONE REGARDING HIS UNDERPERFORMANCE? ?

I know your intent with the bolded.
You're obviously not interested in any suggestion, your question is an elaborate ambush to lure me into naming a replacement for Iwobi which will cause an unnecessary player comparison. I won't bite that bait, sorry to disappoint you.

One thing should be very clear though, a country of 200 million mad soccer fanatics should be producing world class players frequently. The talents coming through the production lines should be so much that non performing players will be replaced without so much drop in quality.

If we can't boast of at least 15 performing world class players with our population, we should bury our heads in shame.
I hope you're in the clear now?

safarigirl:
sometimes, e dey do me like say Kelechi na my younger brother, I for dey slap slap am every time

If he reads his Social Media messages, I would have been a major troll on his page, but I no fit dey crase on top pesin wey no go even see my crase

hahaha
i like your concerns for kelechi,but it is a shame he and his agent are not even bothers as long as they receives pounds alerts everyweek

I thought by now, Porto would av rapped up Etebo's move, what's happening? Just hope the move ain't off, or were all those mere speculations devoid of concrete offers? Even Sokari's proposed move to Nice Hmmm. I am not understanding

By the way, look what we av on our news desk ; "Samuel Kalu on Guinghamps radar as Amiens look set to gazump the deal"

goldfish80:


I know your intent with the bolded.
You're obviously not interested in any suggestion, your question is an elaborate ambush to lure me into naming a replacement for Iwobi which will cause an unnecessary player comparison. I won't bite that bait, sorry to disappoint you.

One thing should be very clear though, a country of 200 million mad soccer fanatics should be producing world class players frequently. The talents coming through the production lines should be so much that non performing players will be replaced without so much drop in quality.

If we can't boast of at least 15 performing world class players with our population, we should bury our heads in shame.
I hope you're in the clear now?

Bros, you always make my day with your withy/sarcastic and often precise construction.
I wonder what you're like in real life.
I love you. No homo oh

enomakos:
hahaha
i like your concerns for kelechi,but it is a shame he and his agent are not even bothers as long as they receives pounds alerts everyweek

is it only he and his agent? That his winsh father and opportunist 'friend' go follow join for destiny destroyers now.


This thing wey this boy mama die when e small na bad thing. It's a terrible thing to lose someone that must have been the voice of reason in that family

ChrisKels:
I brought this here specifically, bkus of u - goldfish - I will never forget the comment u made last year about Naby Keita in comparison with our home grown talents. To me, that was a challenge, if only I was at the helm... Nevertheless, Ndidi is saving our faces


Top 100 Most Valuable Players In Europe :
Nigeria's Ndidi Is Second Most Expensive
African
Published: January 08, 2018
Leicester City midfielder Wilfred Ndidi is
among the top one hundred most valuable
players in the top five leagues in Europe.
According to new information from football
statisticians CIES Football Observatory , the
Nigeria international is worth 77.4 million
euros, or in other words they
recommended that teams interested in his
services will have to cough up that amount
in order to sign him.
No other Nigerian player was included on
the list, however, Mohamed Salah (€140.5),
Sadio Mane (€66.3), Pierre-Emerick
Aubameyang (€64.7m) are the Africans
that featured.
The most valuable in the world is Neymar
(€213m) , who leads the way ahead of
Lionel Messi (€202m).
Tottenham Hotspur striker Harry Kane is
the costliest player in the Premier League
at €195m, followed by teammate Dele Alli
(€171.3m) and Manchester City's Kevin de
Bruyne (€167.8m).
Ndidi joined Leicester City from Racing
Genk in 2017, with the Belgian club
pocketing 17.6 million euros.

My brother, image small Guinea of 10 million people producing a $70M player while a country of 200 million mad soccer fans have yet to produce someone half that price. We are not doing something right obviously. This Naby Keita guy got his football education in Guinea oh (!). He was not produced in diaspora.

Anyway, I don't think this is the real valuation of Ndidi but it is a big positive.

Listen, I will quote any post I want to quote. And if you don't like it, go gbensh yourself!
or else, you can sue me

Insolent mortals


O pari

ChrisKels:


I would take u seriously if you knew what prompted that post.

Did u read Golfish's assertion on the value of Nigerian players, some time last year? The basis of his argument? His reasons (facts) etc? If u didn't, I advise u steer clear. U must not quote every post

goldfish80:


My brother, image small Guinea of 10 million people producing a $70M player while a country of 200 million mad soccer fans have yet to produce someone half that price. We are not doing something right obviously. This Naby Keita guy got his football education in Guinea oh (!). He was not produced in diaspora.

Anyway, I don't think this is the real valuation of Ndidi but it is a big positive.

Naby Keita is another product of the Austrian league.

terzurum5:

A valid question for our candid considerations Sir. I think this is another area we need to deliberate on seriously and make recommendations to the appropriate quarters.

What can we do to improve on poor spectators in our stands during matches?
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all the government owned clubs shall be solds and things will falls into place

People banging on about club form lose sight of the fact that the status of the club a player plays for and/or his stats in a season do not correlate with his national team form.

For instance, Miroslav Klose was an absolute beast for Germany at 5 or 6 major tournaments. He even ended up being the record World Cup goal scorer of all time. However, I don’t think he ever scored up to 20 goals in a season. He never even showed up amongst the nominees for the Balon D’Or, or Bundesliga player of the season, let alone FIFA World Player of the Year.

Moreover, Julius Aghahowa is another example. The highest rated club this guy ever played for was Shakhtar Donetsk! But he he kept on scoring crucial goals for the Super Eagles. So, other factors clearly come into play (coach’s tactics etc) when judging whether a player is suitable for the national team.

goldfish80:


I know your intent with the bolded.
You're obviously not interested in any suggestion, your question is an elaborate ambush to lure me into naming a replacement for Iwobi which will cause an unnecessary player comparison. I won't bite that bait, sorry to disappoint you.

One thing should be very clear though, a country of 200 million mad soccer fanatics should be producing world class players frequently. The talents coming through the production lines should be so much that non performing players will be replaced without so much drop in quality.

If we can't boast of at least 15 performing world class players with our population, we should bury our heads in shame.
I hope you're in the clear now?

Population alone doesn't guarantee production of world class players if not china or India would be ruling the soccer world.

Yes we have talented players everywhere in the country a dime a dozen but like every sector in Nigeria we don't yet have the necessary structure, personnel and expertise to harness such talent and if we are waiting for oyinbo to selflessly develop your players for you then sorry you are on a long tin.

Icon79:
Listen, I will quote any post I want to quote. And if you don't like it, go gbensh yourself!
or else, you can sue me

Insolent mortals


O pari

Yea YOU (specifically) will always quote every post even inordinately so, by the way, whatever is posted here is open to quoting. But before u continue with ur unruly behavior and uncouth tenses, do me a favour, read the post above u. Did ur previous post have any correlation with my reason for calling out goldfish?

U like jumping into arguments ignorantly and end up making a f**l of urself. I wudnt call u senile for being so puerile with the way u approach issues most times but I am sanguine u would learn a lesson or two by the time u back to ur right senses. I'm sorry if I was harsh, but u shouldn't av addressed me the way u did.

chrisooblog:


Population alone doesn't guarantee production of world class players if not china or India would be ruling the soccer world.

Yes we have talented players everywhere in the country a dime a dozen but like every sector in Nigeria we don't yet have the necessary structure, personnel and expertise to harness such talent and if we are waiting for oyinbo to selflessly develop your players for you then sorry you are on a long tin.

India and China are not football countries. India for instance is a cricket country and they are one of the world powers in that sport

PDPGuy:
People banging on about club form lose sight of the fact that the status of the club a player plays for and/or his stats in a season do not correlate with his national team form.

For instance, Miroslav Klose was an absolute beast for Germany at 5 or 6 major tournaments. He even ended up being the record World Cup goal scorer of all time. However, I don’t think he ever scored up to 20 goals in a season. He never even showed up amongst the nominees for the Balon D’Or, or Bundesliga player of the season, let alone FIFA World Player of the Year.

Moreover, Julius Aghahowa is another example. The highest rated club this guy ever played for was Shakhtar Donetsk! But he he kept on scoring crucial goals for the Super Eagles. So, other factors clearly come into play (coach’s tactics etc) when judging whether a player is suitable for the national team.

Shakhtar Donestsk na big club.

goldfish80:


My brother, image small Guinea of 10 million people producing a $70M player while a country of 200 million mad soccer fans have yet to produce someone half that price. We are not doing something right obviously. This Naby Keita guy got his football education in Guinea oh (!). He was not produced in diaspora.

Anyway, I don't think this is the real valuation of Ndidi but it is a big positive.

Ndidi is also a home grown youth exponent of our U17s program. Is population really a determinant factor for talent production? I avnt come across a thesis that "ceteris Paribas, the population of a geographical location is directly proportional to the quality and number of football talents churned out by that particular place, with constant mad soccer fans though

BTW why do you doubt that, that's Ndidi's right worth?

forgiveness:


Shakhtar Donestsk na big club.

As of 2001-2002? I don’t think so.
Yes, they regularly qualify for UEFA club competitions, but that doesn’t make them a big Euro club.

goldfish80:


My brother, image small Guinea of 10 million people producing a $70M player while a country of 200 million mad soccer fans have yet to produce someone half that price. We are not doing something right obviously. This Naby Keita guy got his football education in Guinea oh (!). He was not produced in diaspora.

Anyway, I don't think this is the real valuation of Ndidi but it is a big positive.

how many people are in the Netherlands yet for decades they were producing world class players more than most of their contemporaries in Europe.

George Weah from liberia once won world footballer of the year award I guess because nigeria has not produced a former world footballer we should feel ashamed too

chrisooblog:
how many people are in the Netherlands yet for decades they were producing world class players more than most of their contemporaries in Europe.

George Weah from liberia once won world footballer of the year award I guess because nigeria has not produced a former world footballer we should feel ashamed too

Netherlands had solid structures on ground and they unsurprisingly produced worldies. Your country have barely anything on ground.

George weah was a one-off. Liberia were too busy killing themselves in the bush when Weah emerged.
It is wrong to bring him up in the Nigerian context.

Oasis007:




Do you Guys really love the Lad?! Do you really wish and want him to excel as a Footballer at all?! I think we are too being sentimental and greedy to the extent we ain't longer care for the Progress of the Lad!





From City Academy to the Main Team

City Senior Team to Leicester City

Leicester Senior Team to the Reserve Team

Reserve Team to Bristol City?

The same thing you are always saying every Time is; it's a good Move for him until he's failing to get playing Time!

We ain't helping this Lad! Let the truth be told! This is not the best for him, he needs to stop running like a Coward, rather face the Challenge squarely and bravery!



PS: I don't mind being attack for this Post, I've said my mind already, and I'm ain't gonna regret it!

People love giving reasons for EVERY negative circumstance till it reaches the bare minimum

PDPGuy:

As of 2001-2002? I don’t think so.
Yes, they regularly qualify for UEFA club competitions, but that doesn’t make them a big Euro club.

I think that was the time they were on the ascendary then.

Yes. Not a big European club but big in Ukraine.

Bia, ChrisKels listen to me very well because I am NOT gonna say this again. You think that everyone has the time to literally live on this forum like yourself? News flash, some of us actually have gainful employments and don't have the time to come on here following every single post. Got it??

One glance at your posts and it is crystal clear that as human beings evolved some apes and some members of our species have yet to make a complete transition. You're the epitome of ignorance, the embodiment of idiocy, and allergic to logic. I think you're suffering from an Alarming Inability to Dialogue Sensibly (AIDS), and lacks the intellectual capacity to engage in a rational debate. Your presence here do nothing but drag this site down.

One look at his threads and it fuels the racist notion that Africans are dumb, Aids-infested baboons who have just climbed down from tree tops and lack the capacity to dialogue intelligently. My friend, you're a complete embarrassment to the Black race and we really need to find a way to get rid of you. Even when I was four years old, my written English was more coherent than your incoherent ranting.

Your presence tarnishes this site, pollutes what is a meeting of mature minds and obtusely destroys any constructive dialogue taking place. You resort to destructive negativity just because you do not have the intellectual capacity to follow the debate and foul the atmosphere with your intrusive, disgusting, fetid, gross, loathsome, noisome, offensive, putrid and repellant incoherent rants.

Your disoriented, irrational, disordered, muddled and inchoate mind runs riot on this site polluting, corrupting, debasing, defiling and soiling any sensible debate we are trying to have. Please leave us alone, you are a total liability. If the quality of discussion here is above your IQ level, which I doubt to be above 55, please go elsewhere. There are a lot of websites for the intellectually challenged where I am sure you will feel more at home.


O pari

ChrisKels:



Yea YOU (specifically) will always quote every post even inordinately so, by the way, whatever is posted here is open to quoting. But before u continue with ur unruly behavior and uncouth tenses, do me a favour, read the post above u. Did ur previous post have any correlation with my reason for calling out goldfish?

U like jumping into arguments ignorantly and end up making a f**l of urself. I wudnt call u senile for being so puerile with the way u approach issues most times but I am sanguine u would learn a lesson or two by the time u back to ur right senses. I'm sorry if I was harsh, but u shouldn't av addressed me the way u did.

goldfish80:

India and China are not football countries. India for instance is a cricket country and they are one of the world powers in that sport

It's like you don't watch EPL fan zone Indians love their football.

China not a football country? After all the millions of dollar investment in their super league? Ok o. If japan and korea are good at soccer then there's no reason why china a world and economic superpower should not be doing well since according to your logic they have the population

chrisooblog:


It's like you don't watch EPL fan zone Indians love their football.

China not a football country? After all the millions of dollar investment in their super league? Ok o. If japan and korea are good at soccer then there's no reason why china a world and economic superpower should not be doing well since according to your logic they have the population

I think India and China just recently developed interest for football.

goldfish80:


Why post this here? We shouldn't be worried, he plays very well for the super eagles apparently. Arsenal fans are victimizing him because he chose Nigeria.

If a player is improving on the pitch for his club that improvement will all things being equal be transferred to the national team. In that regard it is beneficial to the national team for players to improve.

If a player is losing competitive edge in his club it is not beneficial to the national team.

When players realise that thier club performance can impact negatively on thier national team selection. They will not take call up for granted.

The pool of talent that Nigeria is looking at is too small. Most team's with realistic World cup ambitions will test and select from at least 50 players.

I am suprised at your statement considering your indepth knowledge, that you have dismissed objective performance data as being biased. Then you further bring nationality into it Arsenal has always been a multi national team and I am certain nationality has nothing to do with it.

We should all be worried and not dismissive of objective based performance data or we will all be in for a rude awakening.

One thing we lack competition for places some players have no competition in the SE for thier position it seems. And feel come rain come shine they are going to Russia.

goldfish80:


Netherlands had solid structures on ground and they unsurprisingly produced worldies. Your country have barely anything on ground.

George weah was a one-off. Liberia were too busy killing themselves in the bush when Weah emerged.
It is wrong to bring him up in the Nigerian context.

I brought up Weah because you mentioned nabil kieta who is also an exceptional one of before he came along could you name any exceptional player from guinea?