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Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by kraftyiyk: 11:02am On Jan 09, 2018
Did any1 notice that this guy clearly refused to blame the herdsmen for their hostile activities?

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Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by GavelSlam: 11:02am On Jan 09, 2018
cstr1001:

Discrimination? You are talking discrimination when thousands of people have been killed due to herdsmen and farmers clashing over and over again.

We are talking about a people that want to indigine-alize themselves forcefully in a terrain after a period of time.

You are not serious. I don't want to see people like you in govt. You would do more harm than good trying to protect special interests like you are doing in defense of buhari.

cstr1001:

Discrimination? You are talking discrimination when thousands of people have been killed due to herdsmen and farmers clashing over and over again.

We are talking about a people that want to indigine-alize themselves forcefully in a terrain after a period of time.

You are not serious. I don't want to see people like you in govt. You would do more harm than good trying to protect special interests like you are doing in defense of buhari.


You have said these people MUST be restricted to the North and that is outright discrimination.

Have you been blinded by hate to realise Fulani have also been victims?

Are you so prejudiced that finding a solution to the matter could simply be creating ranches across the country?


Are you unaware of the integration of Fulani Herdsmen in some of our southern societies such as in Northern Cross River State where you hardly hear any conflict?

Hide your head in shame if you are educated but pregnant with hate and bigotry.
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by Nobody: 11:02am On Jan 09, 2018
You are talking about an organized cattle rearer, not a nomadic that believes his cattle is entitled to anything that grows.
These people are wired to always move. Unfortunately, some of them refused to accept that things aren't the same as before.
They need serious orientation with provision.

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Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by Shaev7(m): 11:04am On Jan 09, 2018
Imagine this... I don't even know the word to use to describe this. In civilised nation, one person's death is a pain many. What this IDIOT and his government is saying Cattle is more important than humans. SMH.
Tribalism has ruined the future of Nigeria as a country. I think we need a total national detoxification. CHAI!
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by MikeBetty(m): 11:06am On Jan 09, 2018
GMBuhari:
Government made provisions for special grazing


My Nna people disagreed


Now that it's getting out of hand, conflicts and murder here and there, maybe they'll agree

Fulani herdsmen are people just like Nna boys that come to Lagos to hustle


Every Nigerian deserves the right to live, work and live anywhere in the country
It Seems Foolishness Reign Supreme In Your Lineage Otherwise Tell Me Why An Intelligent Being Will Make Such Comment Like This. Did Anyone Stop Fulanis From Going, Residing Or Leaving In Any Parts Of The Country. The Nna People You Ref. In This You Garbage Who Hustle In Lagos Have Not Killed People In The Pursuit Of Their Hustle. The Afonja People Who Specialise In Taxi And Bus Driving In Bayelsa Have Not Kill People, Some Hausas Who Are Doing Their Legitimate Businesses Down South Are Not Killing People And The Have Not Been Treated Badly. Why Must Killing Be Associated With Fulanis? Go And Borrow Sense For Once.

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Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by GavelSlam: 11:08am On Jan 09, 2018
cstr1001:

This is the same guy i was supposedly trying to have a reasonable convo with.

Nothing more than a deranged sai- buhari nutjob.

Would you mind me telling me how the govt have helped the gala seller by building ranches or whatever, or who the gala seller deprived of his living by trying to make his own, or how many lives the galler seller have taken.

Yoruba nutjob. Nobody sane is expecting any reasonable solution from you. Not when your mouth is firmly attached to certain strange orifices .

I am an itsekiri man.

The government provides for the gala seller by providing lock up stalls

Your prejudice is getting the better of you.

Fulani people also deserve shops (land over which they can ply their trade/occupation) same as the gala seller.


Why is this concept so difficult for you to grasp or accept?
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by cstr1001: 11:10am On Jan 09, 2018
GavelSlam:





You have said these people MUST be restricted to the North and that is outright discrimination.

Have you been blinded by hate to realise Fulani have also been victims?

Are you so prejudiced that finding a solution to the matter could simply be creating ranches across the country?


Are you unaware of the integration of Fulani Herdsmen in some of our southern societies such as in Northern Cross River State where you hardly hear any conflict?

Hide your head in shame if you are educated but pregnant with hate and bigotry.
There must be something wrong with you. Are you fulani?

Why not prove us wrong, you this yoruba nigga by using your sense of independent thinking?

Where in my post did i advocate fulanis should be restricted to the north? Are there no fulanis doing other businesses throughout the country.?

Are fulani Herdsmen the same as the Fulani ethnic group as a whole?

How do you try to curtail a group adjudged as the 4th deadliest terrorist group in the world if you are you opportune to be governor? By trying to screen the paceful fulani herdsmen from the non-peaceful ones ? Really?
Then you must be the first leader in the history of the world capable of distinguishing terrorists from a non-distinguishable group.

I hope you are kidding or just licking buhari's nutsacks. If this is your mentality as a person, then you would be a terrible administrator in government.
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by IkennaDavid1(m): 11:10am On Jan 09, 2018
jaymichael:
Do you have a better idea to end the menace? reasonable people can see through the hypocrisy of your likes. You lots don't want the menace to end just to continue using the issue to score cheap political points. You lots were against setting up of grazing reserves for cattle rearing, you lots were against the importation of high yield high nutrition grass seeds that can be planted here for cattle feeding like the ones used for cattle feeding in advanced countries. Now you are against special intervention for cattle rearers to avert future occurrence of these ugly clashes with farmers and farming communities. It s not PMB's fault that GEJ was booted out by Nigerians so you shouldn't let your hatred for one man erode your sense of humanity.

First and foremost I am not a tribal bigot and I don't trade insulting words online, so I will just cut to the chase and speak with facts..
1. When the bokoharam menace started, why didn't the govt just set up Islamic schools, sharia courts and sharia government for them so as to quench their detestable hunger for blood with which they were using to voice out their agitations. Instead they were proscribed and SOLDIERS were sent to stop insurgency through counter terrorism..
2. When the Niger Delta Avengers came up to disrupt petroleum exploration in their region because they felt the govt was taking out bulk of the Federal revenue from their region yet the Niger Delta is developmentally ignored, instead of the federal government to look into or dialogue with them to look into the reasons for their agitations they sent in SOLDIERS again.
3. IPOB were clamoring for secession and other South easterners clamoring for restructuring, Operation Python Dance was the Fed Govts response.
4. Just recently, the issue of killings in and Kidnapping in Rivers state came up, and once again SOLDIERS were sent and Don Wanny and his cohorts were killed.
5. Fulani herds men slaughter in Taraba, Benue, Plateau, Enugu and so many other states in the country have been on going with thousands of lives lost and tens of thousands more displaced, and we are yet to get a direct statement to that effect from the Commander in Chief of the Federal Republic of Nigeria... Instead the POLICE were sent to increase security in the areas affected...
6. These Nomadic and Transhumans cattle herders operate a tax free business with little or no operating cost, why can't they just settle down at a place and invest in their businesses like everyone else?.. The carry their cattle into crop farms and eat up crops in farmlands and if the farmers complain, they slaughter them.. If they decide to protest to induce a spontaneous action from their government, the Nigerian Army shoots at them..

IT'S JUST A bleeped UP SYSTEM WE HAVE HERE SIR... I know being human makes sentiments unavoidable and inevitable, but we also have conscience and a mind of our own to think.... USE IT.

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Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by GavelSlam: 11:10am On Jan 09, 2018
VictorRomanov:



Allocated traditionally if you re farming in your village. If you move to any man's location to farm, Govt would not forcibly allocate a land to you. The best you can get is the govt acquiring the lands at cheaper rate for you. And that would be under the condition that you are an investor who's going to create jobs for the local populace.

Please show us where it was stated that government intends to seize people's land?

Where was it suggested the land would be free?
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by cstr1001: 11:14am On Jan 09, 2018
GavelSlam:


I am an itsekiri man.

The government provides for the gala seller by providing lock up stalls

Your prejudice is getting the better of you.

Fulani people also deserve shops (land over which they can ply their trade/occupation) same as the gala seller.


Why is this concept so difficult for you to grasp or accept?

The gala seller do not need lock up stalls.

The people that uses govt lock up stalls pay their taxes. Heavy taxes at that, especially in lagos, and also pay heavy rents.
And they don't go about killing people or depriving others of their legitimate livelihood.

What is your argument again? you go school at all?
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by salmonkas178(m): 11:14am On Jan 09, 2018
Nigeria is sick ....our leaders are cursed.....PDP APC all of them.....your generation yet unborn will feel all these pain and carry the burden one day some day soon
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by Okezedan(m): 11:16am On Jan 09, 2018
Ass licking minister. Prosterity will judge you and your master
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by GavelSlam: 11:21am On Jan 09, 2018
cstr1001:

There must be something wrong with you. Are you fulani?

Why not prove us wrong, you this yoruba nigga by using your sense of independent thinking?

Where in my post did i advocate fulanis should be restricted to the north? Are there no fulanis doing other businesses throughout the country.?

Are fulani Herdsmen the same as the Fulani ethnic group as a whole?

How do you try to curtail a group adjudged as the 4th deadliest terrorist group in the world if you are you opportune to be governor? By trying to screen the paceful fulani herdsmen from the non-peaceful ones ? Really?
Then you must be the first leader in the history of the world capable of distinguishing terrorists from a non-distinguishable group.

I hope you are kidding or just licking buhari's nutsacks. If this is your mentality as a person, then you would be a terrible administrator in government.


The miyetti Allah in collaboration with the Federal ministry of Agriculture should build ranches in Fulani majority states in the core-north and restrict them there.
Herdsmen can apply for ranches in those states just the same way omo-nna applies for their shops and supermarkets built by the state governments across the country.

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Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by cstr1001: 11:24am On Jan 09, 2018
GavelSlam:



The miyetti Allah in collaboration with the Federal ministry of Agriculture should build ranches in Fulani majority states in the core-north and restrict them there.
Herdsmen can apply for ranches in those states just the same way omo-nna applies for their shops and supermarkets built by the state governments across the country.
And what exactly is the argument here?

How do you distinguish the peaceful herdsmen from the 4th most deadliest terrorist group in the world.?

Maybe you don't know. Unlike you , i have no special interests. I am not defending anybody's govt. My interest is what benefits the vast majority of peaceful Nigerians.
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by Topestbilly(m): 11:26am On Jan 09, 2018
DieBuhari:


Does government provide anything for the "nna people" that go to Lagos to hustle?
Typical Buhari Cow

You have time to reply that staunch zombie.
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by GavelSlam: 11:29am On Jan 09, 2018
cstr1001:

And what exactly is the argument here?

How do you distinguish the peaceful herdsmen from the 4th most deadliest terrorist group in the world.?

Maybe you don't know. Unlike you , i have no special interests. I am not defending anybody's govt. My interest is what benefits the vast majority of peaceful Nigerians.


I see you've finally accepted what you wrote only a few minutes ago.

As I said earlier grazing colonies are acceptable by me.

I have witnessed Fulani being integrated with host societies in Cross River State so I know it is workable.
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by NaijaEfcc: 11:29am On Jan 09, 2018
veraponpo:


Some of you lack real understanding of leadership.

When a leader plans, he considers both the Strength and the Weakness, he needs to take the Opportunities and mitigate the Threats.

This is the best thing to read today.

Crops and Cattle cannot stay together without fights; that is the bitter truth.
nonsense talk, please note my moniker , don't ever quote me again in your life!! Thank you for your corporation!! angry
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by giles14(m): 11:32am On Jan 09, 2018
NaijaEfcc:


https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/herdsmen-deserve-more-from-government-fg.html
in the same Europe cows don't go into pples farms street etc

in Europe they have ranch etc
even this Europe has good roads electricity healthcare education etc.

next time if una dey mention Europe America or Asia just remember that we are at different levels of development.

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Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by Charly68: 11:36am On Jan 09, 2018
NaijaEfcc:
This is so heartbreaking!!! Imagine this rubbish talk !! angry Audu Ogbeh is mad !!! Fulani herdsmen live and run a tax free business and their cows get free grazing (food) !!! WE TOTALLY REJECT THIS!
lalasticlala
This baba is sick ,really sick
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by NaijaEfcc: 11:38am On Jan 09, 2018
skydeexie:
Audu Ogbe, A Complete Disaster to the Entire Middle Belt and Nigeria as a Whole!

By his reasoning and presentation, it means any community, or sector that is neglected by the government, the only solution is to pickup arms start shedding blood and causing mayhem in the country in order to draw government's attention? At the end of the day, there will never be a country called Nigeria. Since nobody has the monopoly of violence, I urge all communities in the Middle Belt and elsewhere to fully arm, defend their lives and God given territories. Life is a precious gift from God. If the Fulani says other people don't have the right to live, they too cannot be allowed the privilege. Leave this government, go back to Benue and protect your people Mr. Ogbeh. This is hogwash and it stinks!

exactly my point!! Look at the Niger Delta militants, even contemplating giving amnesty to boko haram, the message the government is passing is that the violent always wins!!
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by slowice(m): 11:39am On Jan 09, 2018
This people just justified the right of herdsmen to own sophisticated weapons and to invade and destroy who ever and whatever that stands in the way of their cattle business... Imagine they quickly remember Europe because of cow but forget Europe when it come to good governance, roads, electricity, school, health care, housing etc... Dem just they misyarn anyhow for this country..... What a tin
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by Chigold101(m): 11:40am On Jan 09, 2018
GMBuhari:
Government made provisions for special grazing


My Nna people disagreed


Now that it's getting out of hand, conflicts and murder here and there, maybe they'll agree

Fulani herdsmen are people just like Nna boys that come to Lagos to hustle


Every Nigerian deserves the right to live, work and live anywhere in the country
Those Nna people inn lagos and other places in Nigeria pay their taxes and pay for shops and even build markets...
No government ever provided them "free shop" to trade on...
So you better get sense for once...
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by RedDistrict: 11:40am On Jan 09, 2018
Not a bad idea from the minister from an agric perspective but sadly not what Nigerians wants to hear at this point when the killings of late has been very gruelsome and dehumanising.

God help Nigeria

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Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by frankyychiji(f): 11:45am On Jan 09, 2018
DieBuhari:


Does government provide anything for the "nna people" that go to Lagos to hustle?
Typical Buhari Cow
Chai! GMbuhari this guy finish your life patapata cry cry
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by Iamzik: 11:45am On Jan 09, 2018
GoroTango:
I agree with the minister, some kind of government intervention in the form of facilities and grazing reserves is urgently required so as to put an end to the ugly clashes once and for all

Yes there is a large expanse of land up North.
Especially sambisa forest.

Let them return to their native land. Simple
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by Freeman59: 11:49am On Jan 09, 2018
wow!!!!!!! nice one. please herdsmen, you have heard it all from our foolish govt, keep killing
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by slowice(m): 11:50am On Jan 09, 2018
GavelSlam:


I am an itsekiri man.

The government provides for the gala seller by providing lock up stalls

Your prejudice is getting the better of you.

Fulani people also deserve shops (land over which they can ply their trade/occupation) same as the gala seller.


Why is this concept so difficult for you to grasp or accept?
Itsekiri man, it's obvious your sense come with your village river and go with it too if not how on earth re you not aware that the lockup stalls built by the government is purely business... They sell/rent to those guys for exorbitant amounts and still tax dem heavily for providing themselves jobs... Something the government cannot do

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Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by GavelSlam: 11:53am On Jan 09, 2018
slowice:

Itsekiri man, it's obvious your sense come with your village river and go with it too if not how on earth re you not aware that the lockup stalls built by the government is purely business... They sell/rent to those guys for exorbitant amounts and still tax dem heavily for providing themselves jobs... Something the government cannot do

Please where did you read the grazing land would be free from rent and tax?

What do you propose?
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by Elliot2(m): 11:56am On Jan 09, 2018
GoroTango:
I agree with the minister, some kind of government intervention in the form of facilities and grazing reserves is urgently required so as to put an end to the ugly clashes once and for all
it is reasonable that govt provide them some interventions,but that is if they agitated for it peacefully and they were nigerians(ur govt said they are libyans)?!!!
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by Tiffbuxas: 11:57am On Jan 09, 2018
TheKingdom:


Nonsense, call a spade a spade. Audu and Buhari should not have had any business in the positions that people like you put them in. Are you not ashamed that the world is developing minus AFRICA?

Yet when we call this place the zoo you want to start frowning your face....


Nonsense
some parts of Africa are trying and striving for development... Awa own problem is over know know... Dats how we will keep making d same mistakes over and over recycling old thief that includes awa fadars to political positions. Until we are ready to move forward, We will Keppra going backwards
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by Nnamdiojukwu: 12:01pm On Jan 09, 2018
GMBuhari:
Government made provisions for special grazing


My Nna people disagreed


Now that it's getting out of hand, conflicts and murder here and there, maybe they'll agree

Fulani herdsmen are people just like Nna boys that come to Lagos to hustle


Every Nigerian deserves the right to live, work and live anywhere in the country

The only region where people blackmail government is the Nna Bros , with the amnesty that they still collect up and down and still engage in mindless killings yes they actually collect things from the government


The reason why government hasn't been able to tax them is because they always move around allow them have their grazing lands and with all of them together they'll be easier to tax
Re: Herdsmen Deserve More From Government - FG by Nnamdiojukwu: 12:02pm On Jan 09, 2018
GMBuhari:
Government made provisions for special grazing


My Nna people disagreed


Now that it's getting out of hand, conflicts and murder here and there, maybe they'll agree

Fulani herdsmen are people just like Nna boys that come to Lagos to hustle


Every Nigerian deserves the right to live, work and live anywhere in the country

The only region where people blackmail government is the Nna Bros , with the amnesty that they still collect up and down and still engage in mindless killings yes they actually collect things from the government


The reason why government hasn't been able to tax them is because they always move around allow them have their grazing lands and with all of them together they'll be easier to tax
You are an.Ediot.

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