₦airaland Forum

plaetton:
No surprise at all.

People think I am just being malicious when I say that evangelical Christianity is the greatest toxic and environmental hazard that prevents Africans from seeing the light, from escaping from the fragmented reality that they are in.

Said by descendants of people who killed their own twin kids, sacrificed humans until the church came to liberate them. The same church that educated and provided healthcare for your ancestors,! I can't imagine how disastrous this country would a been if not for the same Christianity you folks try to spite.

Statsocial:
Said by descendants of people who killed their own twin kids, sacrificed humans until the church came to liberate them. The same church that educated and provided healthcare for your ancestors,! I can't imagine how disastrous this country would a been if not for the same Christianity you folks try to spite.

My Friend, it might surprise you that I agree that Christianity was a force for good in Nigeria about 100 or more years ago, when European missionaries left the comfort of their civilized homes to bring many good things to Nigeria.

Now, read my post again.
I said that Pentecostal Christianity, which I don't think has anything in common with early christian missions in Nigeria, is a very toxic import that that is devastating the mental and intellectual landscape of Nigeria.

Can you honestly compare the early Christian missions in Nigeria to today's evangelical filth ?
Can you ?

The early Christian missionaries gave so much, did so much, with so little.
They were not asking people to pay tithe, sow seeds or subscribe to the worst forms of primitive superstitions.
The missionaries lives austere lives, gave up luxuries to serve their callings.
They were not living large on the backs of the Christians to whom they came to evangelise.
They served their communities and showed examples of the humility and charity that Jesus preached about.

sonofluc1fer:
Is there hope? Or is this a lost cause?

With their deep penetration into universities, the supposed bastion and repository of intellectual energy, I am sorry to say that the future remains dark.

plaetton:
My Friend, it might surprise you that I agree that Christianity was a force for good in Nigeria about 100 or more years ago, when European missionaries left the comfort of their civilized homes to bring many good things to Nigeria.

Now, read my post again.
I said that Pentecostal Christianity, which I don't think has anything in common with early christian missions in Nigeria, is a very toxic import that that is devastating the mental and intellectual landscape of Nigeria.

Can you honestly compare the early Christian missions in Nigeria to today's evangelical filth ?
Can you ?

The early Christian missionaries gave so much, did so much, with so little.
They were not asking people to pay tithe, sow seeds or subscribe to the worst forms of primitive superstitions.
The missionaries lives austere lives, gave up luxuries to serve their callings.
They were not living large on the backs of the Christians to whom they came to evangelise.
They served their communities and showed examples of the humility and charity that Jesus preached about.

Yes agreed the relevance of the church has been watered down since the days of the missionaries but to describe it as filth is ridiculous. I hope you know that much of the activities of the early church were also funded by foreign governments. Until 1950s the US govt was still sponsorit mission trips. But non the less the Christianity is still the most societally relevant religion in Nigeria. Hundreds of thousands of Nigerians school their kids at the Primary, Sec and Tertiary establishments of churches. ECWA hospitals have continued to be of great service to poor communities in northern Nigeria. RCCG Christ Against Drug Abuse Ministry(CADAM)is one of the most sophisticated and if not the most sophisticated rehabilitation program for drug addicts in this country. LFC today has about 18,000 Nigerians as Employees all across its sectors. So how do you come about the irrelevance of the Nigerian church which u are propagating.

plaetton:
With their deep penetration into universities, the supposed bastion and repository of intellectual energy, I am sorry to say that the future remains dark.

Well much of the Ivy Leagues today were all founded by Churches. Oral Roberts Uni is still a Christian Conservative Pentecostal Uni and is an reputable university in the us.

Statsocial:
Said by descendants of people who killed their own twin kids

This woman said unto me, Give thy son, that we may eat him to day, and we will eat my son to morrow. So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him. 2 Kings 6:28-29

Statsocial:
sacrificed humans until the church came to liberate them...

..... And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD. He said, “If you give me victory over the Ammonites, I will give to the LORD the first thing coming out of my house to greet me when I return in triumph. I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.”
..... When she returned home, her father kept his vow, and she died a virgin. So it has become a custom in Israel for young Israelite women to go away for four days each year to lament the fate of Jephthah’s daughter.” (Judges 11:29-40 NLT)

Statsocial:
The same church that educated and provided healthcare for your ancestors,! I can't imagine how disastrous this country would a been if not for the same Christianity you folks try to spite.

African by genetics. Gentile by mind.

kodewrita:
I attended a Baptist Private university and I believe there's no need to add theology into the curriculum. That is just useless.

A typical day in Bowen university already has enough theology in it.


You wake up 6 and spend 30 good minutes on praise and worship with ministration. That is also the last thing you do every day.

There are church services almost every day of the week.
Twice on sunday.
Once on monday.
Early in the morning on wednesday
Evening on thursday.
Plus different private student fellowships on tuesday, friday and saturday.

You can't go anywhere without coming in contact with the Bible in some form in that institution.

The environment, just like covenant & redeemers, is literally soaked in Christian thought. And any misbehaviours noticed are usually reactions against this.


We are not attending Covenant or Bowen or Babcock so we can turn into pastors. We are attending there to become computer scientists, chemists and economists with a Christian outlook on life.

Get that right.

@PastorKun The bible is seriously against people who only judge using one side of the story. You can't be a true christian if you are so so able to label these schools without any personal experience of your own to judge. I pity your flock.

LAME. Enlighten yourself

plaetton:
My Friend, it might surprise you that I agree that Christianity was a force for good in Nigeria about 100 or more years ago, when European missionaries left the comfort of their civilized homes to bring many good things to Nigeria.

Now, read my post again.
I said that Pentecostal Christianity, which I don't think has anything in common with early christian missions in Nigeria, is a very toxic import that that is devastating the mental and intellectual landscape of Nigeria.

Can you honestly compare the early Christian missions in Nigeria to today's evangelical filth ?
Can you ?

The early Christian missionaries gave so much, did so much, with so little.
They were not asking people to pay tithe, sow seeds or subscribe to the worst forms of primitive superstitions.
The missionaries lives austere lives, gave up luxuries to serve their callings.
They were not living large on the backs of the Christians to whom they came to evangelise.
They served their communities and showed examples of the humility and charity that Jesus preached about.

My brother, that thing is a two-sided coin o. The missionaries basically took as much as they gave. Much as they brought education and basically dragged Nigeria into what was the modern world at the time, they came side-by-side with colonialists and slave traders. In their defense, some of the first people to fight against slave trade and, eventually, colonialism were missionaries but by then, the damage had already been done. Africa had already been scarred by the scourge of a history in which it was relegated to the dregs of global society and from which it hasn't recovered.

Also, while we would like to think that the missionaries brought us civilization, in a way they might have disrupted our growth process and that may be what's affecting us today. Europe and America weren't always the centers of civilization that they are now but they basically grew at their own pace, matured and took charge of the world. Africa, on the other hand, was forced into early maturity and, obviously, that isn't going well for us.

Statsocial:
Well much of the Ivy Leagues today were all founded by Churches. Oral Roberts Uni is still a Christian Conservative Pentecostal Uni and is an reputable university in the us.

Big laugh.

I only hear of Oral Roberts university in Nigeria.

Religious universities are not recognized as institutions of serious intellectual learning, but merely brainwashing centers.

plaetton:
Big laugh.

I only hear of Oral Roberts university in Nigeria.

Religious universities are not recognized as institutions of serious intellectual learning, but merely brainwashing centers.

Well it was a white american friend in New York who isn't really religious that actually commended ORU to me lol. ORU is a big deal in Oklahoma and the entire south with some very great Alumni. What about the University of Notre Dame, Georgetown University, Washington, Loyola Marymount University, Leeward, Yonsei University (Korea), Villanova and a host of top notch universities across the world.

PastorKun:
^^^
You still don't get it do you? No one as stated that people go to any of these schools to study to become pastors (after all rccg and winners chapel pastors don't even study theology and are very poorly trained) what the original poster expects is that it is only reasonable for church owned universities to offer courses in theology becos of their religious background. And you don't have to become a pastor after studying theology after all obasanjo studied theology after leaving power and he is not a pastor today.

Theology is useless to Christianity ...It supports religion. How many years did Peter train to become an apostle ...Mention one of the apostles that got trained in theology?

PastorKun:
This is becos rccg and winners chapel are strictly business conglomerates using the name of God to make profit. That aside they both preach a false version of the gospel, training their students in theology would open their eyes and expose the hypocrisy, contradiction and outright lies being taught in these churches and this would be bad for business hence they shy away from teaching theology.

What is theology. Mention one of the false doctrine of the churches you stated

Patsey:
I have noticed that, quite unlike the trend in Western Europe and North America where universities established by Christian missions do have Departments and Schools of Theology & Religious Studies in addition to other academic departments, Nigerian Universities privately founded and funded by some Christian Missions particularly the RCCG (http://www.run.edu.ng/coh_departments.html) and Winners (http://www.covenantuniversity.edu.ng/Colleges and http://landmarkuniversity.edu.ng/colleges) do not have offer Theology and Religious Studies. What stops the proprietors of these churches and universities, i.e. Adejare Adeboye and David Oyedepo from incorporating Theology & Religious Studies programmes into the curricula of these universities.  Apart from redundant question like what's the value of a degree in Theology/Yoruba/Igbo, Drama?, what could be reason why these unis fail to offer courses and degrees in Theology and Religious Studies. Isn't this a paradox?

What is theology

PastorKun:
Why won't parents spend N2 million for their children to learn theology? After all the two churches in question are now mega business empires and their promoters are making billions from the industry. Church business in Nigeria today is one of the fastest growing are the set up cost is low, it is also tax free with loads of easy money to be made, so why won't parents be eager to allow their children study it except for the fact the universities are not offering those courses as the repercussions could be disastrous on them.

How many of the catholic universities in Nigeria runs theology as a course of study ...I mean from caritas or veritas to that shithole in Anambra state called madona?