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Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by laydoh(m): 8:19am On Jan 22, 2018
asuustrike2009:

The same Matthew was talking of one wife one husband. If it wasn't important Jesus wouldn't have quoted Gen 1:27,Gen 2:24. The Bible is clear on that. Matthew 19:6 say the two shall be one it didn't say the four shall be one.
shey u no go skul or u no jst knw ao 2 comprehend a simple verse.wia in d world do u see a man marrying 2 or 3 wives at d same tym,or shey na every1 dey marry 2 wives?dont jst argue wit wu r more knowledgeable dan u,kip arguing wit urself if u knw u r ryt but stop trying 2 mislead pple.u sha no knw pass jesus and didnt live in his era,dia r many polygamist during his era and he didnt say otherwise,bt u pple wil sha always proof dat u knw pass jesus and even God self.all d scriptures u guys v quoting since has jst bin abt marriage definition,union btw a man and a woman.i went to primary skul and dey also tot us dat same definition.so park well
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by laydoh(m): 8:26am On Jan 22, 2018
debolayinka:

I am 100% sure you didn't post this to seek knowledge, but to argue scriptures and gain attention.
didnt it bore good fruit?isnt it gud dat we r sharing wat we knw?sm knw nada bt think dey r d centre of knwldge.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by laydoh(m): 8:31am On Jan 22, 2018
asuustrike2009:

The word of God is clear on marriage anyone that goes contrary to it has himself or herself to blame. Marry more one wife and end in hell. God was not foolish when he ordained one man one wife
see prophet of God.Lets ear wat d messenger has to say!
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Penalty82(m): 8:37am On Jan 22, 2018
Pierohandsome:
common sense is in that verse. If the bible says that shall not steal, and u are in possession of what does not belong to u. Do u need a bible verse to tell u to return it, do u hold on to the stolen item? Common sense wil tell anyone to return it if u really want to repent.

U said it is marriage process, the vers said they 2 shall become one, is that a process or makeup?if he says 2 why making it 3 or 4? And if u have already made it 3 instead of 2 that he commands, do u need Jesus to come and write another bible for u on what to do? The bible says wisdom is profitable to direct.
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Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Penalty82(m): 8:42am On Jan 22, 2018
lonikit:

so since jehova overlooked them and he says he hate divorce. are we now allowed after marrying more Dan one before we got born again to divorce.??
It cannot be called divorce but send away.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Penalty82(m): 8:45am On Jan 22, 2018
lonikit:

u hav not answered. after marrying them are u allowed to divorce since he said hate divorce??
In this case, it is not divorce, send them away.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Penalty82(m): 8:48am On Jan 22, 2018
frosbel2:


You married them legally, they are your wives, in fact, if you are financially capable, you can marry another wife - grin

As far as you did not marry or steal another man's wife, you need not make any restitution.

Don't listen to those Pentecostal hypocrites who parrot these untruths while indulging in all sorts of sexual perversion including adultery.
Lame arguement, where did you get your teaching from
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by debolayinka(m): 8:54am On Jan 22, 2018
lonikit:

dont be sure of wht u dont hav proofs. it is bad to read pple's mind
laydoh:
didnt it bore good fruit?isnt it gud dat we r sharing wat we knw?sm knw nada bt think dey r d centre of knwldge.
Oga, it's not like I'm forming ITK like you think, and that is why I didn't say anything about the issue. But you know that some discussions only cause strive. If you read through people's comments, you'll discover that this thread has achieved nothing but unnecessary arguments. Irrespective of whichever side is right, many minds are still stuck to their beliefs about marital restitution, so what fruit if I may ask, has it borne?
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Penalty82(m): 8:56am On Jan 22, 2018
PSTEMMA1960:
first of all i want u to know that Jesus never told Zacchaeus to give half of his property to the poor or restore x4 of whatever he has taken from anyone..

let's put it this way, if a man married 2 wives and the 2 wives have all giving birth to grow up children, and latter the man gives his life to christ, do u expect him to divorce the second wife and also disown the children he had with her?

if u have already married b4 without knowing God we call it the days of ignorance, and the bible says that the time of ignorance that God overlooks..

u have to take care of all of them as ur wives with thier children, God is nt a wicked man who is always looking 4 a reason to punish u or send us to hell..
Nobody said you should send d other women away with their children, only the 2nd wife and above are to be sent away, note that there's nothing like bastard in law so the children belongs to the man.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by PSTEMMA1960(m): 9:11am On Jan 22, 2018
Penalty82:
Nobody said you should send d other women away with their children, only the 2nd wife and above are to be sent away, note that there's nothing like bastard in law so the children belongs to the man.
can u tell me where the bible said that u should send the second wife away? u don't need to send anyone away, the only thing that God said about those that have more than one wife is that they should nt be giving some offices, i.e bishop or deacon. read 1timothy 3vs 2..
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by QuestionMark910: 9:18am On Jan 22, 2018
Pierohandsome:
they were never regarded as wives in the first place. The one recognized as wife is the first one u Married, the other 2 u married after are not wives by scriptures so they are free to re-marry. It is the first wife that is regarded by God as a wife and she cannot re-marry

The scripture allows two wives. Do not teach your own opinion. See what God says in the bible Deuteronomy 21:15
15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:

16 Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn:


How can being born again stop you from marrying two wives. Israel, the nation that God favours most is a nation made up from the 12 children of 4 (Four) Wives of One man. If it were against God's will then he would have returned the other three and the children of the other wives would not be part of the nation Israel.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by PSTEMMA1960(m): 9:21am On Jan 22, 2018
vislabraye:


Your explanation makes absolutely sense. Jesus never said anything about restitution in marriage.
thanks 4 ur level of understanding, read the book of 1timothy 3vs 2, the only thingthat the bible said that those that have more than one wife should nt be giving the office of a bishop..

now judging from the other angle i heard a pastor preaching one day that anything u take from someone that u must restitue x4, and i asked him 2 questions..

1. what if the person u stole from said that he has forgiving u? do u know that if u go to someone u stole from by urself and confess for stealing from him/her the person will nt even be willing to ask u to pay him/her back?..

2. if u are saying that it must be x4, what if it's the person wife u took, will u also marry additional 3 wives and add to the one u took?

the word of God is easy to understand...
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by PSTEMMA1960(m): 9:21am On Jan 22, 2018
vislabraye:


Your explanation makes absolutely sense. Jesus never said anything about restitution in marriage.
thanks 4 ur level of understanding, read the book of 1timothy 3vs 2, the only thingthat the bible said that those that have more than one wife should nt be giving the office of a bishop..

now judging from the other angle i heard a pastor preaching one day that anything u take from someone that u must restitue x4, and i asked him 2 questions..

1. what if the person u stole from said that he has forgiving u? do u know that if u go to someone u stole from by urself and confess for stealing from him/her the person will nt even be willing to ask u to pay him/her back?..

2. if u are saying that it must be x4, what if it's the person wife u took, will u also marry additional 3 wives and add to the one u took?

the word of God is easy to understand..

God bless u..
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 9:26am On Jan 22, 2018
laydoh:
shey u no go skul or u no jst knw ao 2 comprehend a simple verse.wia in d world do u see a man marrying 2 or 3 wives at d same tym,or shey na every1 dey marry 2 wives?dont jst argue wit wu r more knowledgeable dan u,kip arguing wit urself if u knw u r ryt but stop trying 2 mislead pple.u sha no knw pass jesus and didnt live in his era,dia r many polygamist during his era and he didnt say otherwise,bt u pple wil sha always proof dat u knw pass jesus and even God self.all d scriptures u guys v quoting since has jst bin abt marriage definition,union btw a man and a woman.i went to primary skul and dey also tot us dat same definition.so park well
Just look at this kid! If you can argue with scriptures then remain silent
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by PSTEMMA1960(m): 9:27am On Jan 22, 2018
Softhands:
You don't know God... He is no respecter of persons... Don't let this so-called grace teachings fool you o. God no go bend to suitee you...na u Go bend to suite him.
all i want is 4 u to tell me where in the bible that God said that if u have married 2 or more wives u should send one away after u have giving ur life to christ..

read 1timothy 3vs 2.. the only thing the bible said that some post should nt be given to them in the church..
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 9:28am On Jan 22, 2018
laydoh:
so are you nw telling me God is nw man that changes his own view.
Act 17:30 is the answer to your question
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by QuestionMark910: 9:28am On Jan 22, 2018
asuustrike2009:

The word of God is clear on marriage anyone that goes contrary to it has himself or herself to blame. Marry more one wife and end in hell. God was not foolish when he ordained one man one wife

Please read your bible. Genesis 16:3 3 And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife[i][/i].

Hagar the Egyptian was Abraham's wife. Yes she was a servant before. But at the end she was a wife!!!
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 9:31am On Jan 22, 2018
laydoh:
wu tld u it wasnt in his design,u had meeting wit Him Or He told u?
John 14:26,1 John 2:27 These verses were the rhema to which revelations were revealed.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 9:33am On Jan 22, 2018
gaskiyamagana:

As Solomon and Jacob?
God allowed them because of their ignorance ( Act 17:30)
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 9:34am On Jan 22, 2018
gaskiyamagana:

What about today pastors that were from second wife of their father?
Those pastors parent were not born again.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by QuestionMark910: 9:36am On Jan 22, 2018
Pierohandsome:
they were never regarded as wives in the first place. The one recognized as wife is the first one u Married, the other 2 u married after are not wives by scriptures so they are free to re-marry. It is the first wife that is regarded by God as a wife and she cannot re-marry

So all of Solomon's 700 women were what?
The mothers of the children of Israel were what?
You are proving what the bible says in Mark 7:7 Mark 7:7-New King James Version (NKJV)
7 And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’[i][/i]
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men[b] —the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do.”
9 He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition.

Your pastors and General Overseers and Bishops have given commandments and you say they are from God.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 9:37am On Jan 22, 2018
linearity:


You failed to read or understand that passage within the context.

Jesus was asked a question about divorce and his reference to they becoming one is to emphasize that, divorce is not permitted; because if you only have ‘one’ you can not separate it.

Many Old Testament leaders had more one wife, the only place in the Bible where one. Wife is stated is through Paul and he gave that as a condition to becoming a Bishop, if all the born again Christians in Paul’s congregation had only one wife, this condition would have been unnecessary.

Plus, not once had Paul or Peter preached to their congregation about divorcing all their extra wives, unless you believe that, every single person that got born again then we’re already in compliance.
Brother study the scriptures with understanding from the holy spirit not on your own understanding.( Prov 3:5).
The holy spirit bring to remembrance what you knew not. He is the great teacher.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 9:39am On Jan 22, 2018
QuestionMark910:


Please read your bible. Genesis 16:3 3 And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife[i][/i].

Hagar the Egyptian was Abraham's wife. Yes she was a servant before. But at the end she was a wife!!!
The Lord allowed it because of their ignorance ( Act 17:30). Same lord didn't choose Hagar's son instead they were sent away.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by lonikit: 10:03am On Jan 22, 2018
alBHAGDADI:
You are not divorcing those other women but only sending them away cos they were never yours. Even if it's that you married them legally, in the eyes of God they are not recognized as your wife/wives. That is why your sending them away can never be regarded as divorce in the eyes of God. Divorce is only when you send the first woman you married away.

You've been going about this thread asking for scriptural backing but have ignored the ones given to you. You want them to show you where it is categorically stated that one should restitute the other wives. Ones you are cleared on the fact that a Christian is to be with only one wife, the moment you go against that is the moment you commit adultery which is a sin. Now, if you become born again, you have to do away with every sin. You can't continue being born again while you continue committing sin. Keeping those other women while born again is not genuine repentance but living in sin. You can't eat your cake and have it. You have to send those other wives away for God to see that you have genuinely repented. Now, remember I explained above that sending them away is not divorce in the eyes of God, a thing which He hates. Sending them away is pure obedience unto Him cos He never recognized them as your wife in the first place.

Kindly ignore all those urging you on. They will lead you to your doom.

I laughed at this post. pls, back this up with scripture. it seems u are speaking for God.
so reacheal wasn't recognised by God, why did bible refer to Bathsheba as david wife (after repentance, did he send her away??) why did bible make demarcation BTW Solomon's wives and concubine??
show us that marriage restitution in the bible sir.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by bedspread: 10:25am On Jan 22, 2018
gaskiyamagana:

... of partiality as He allowed Abraham, Jacob, David, Solomon and will not allow us?
From the Beginning it was not so
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by bedspread: 10:29am On Jan 22, 2018
Shafiiimran99:
there is, if not why did God tell those who marry 2 or more wives how to do justice when he simply forbid it.
Keep Decieving yourself
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by lonikit: 10:30am On Jan 22, 2018
asuustrike2009:

The Lord allowed it because of their ignorance ( Act 17:30). Same lord didn't choose Hagar's son instead they were sent away.

my brother, dont quote out of context. read the whole chapter to understand that portion or u read from verse 16. I will not explain it cus I want u to read and comprehend.

I'm not in anyway advocating for a Christian to marry more than one wife but if u av done it bfr being born again, there is no such law in the new testament to send ur wife away. david after repenting from his sin bible called Bathsheba His wife and she was even the mother of Solomon. Paul said u can't be a bishop if u hav more than one. that statement alone showef that dere are Christians that are with more than one wife. he didn't say they should put them away but they can't be ordained as bishop.
God said he hates putting away, so why should twist bible to win an argument??
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 10:30am On Jan 22, 2018
Penalty82:
Lame arguement, where did you get your teaching from

Definitely not from one of your pastorpreneurs smiley
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 10:39am On Jan 22, 2018
lonikit:


my brother, dont quote out of context. read the whole chapter to understand that portion or u read from verse 16. I will not explain it cus I want u to read and comprehend.

I'm not in anyway advocating for a Christian to marry more than one wife but if u av done it bfr being born again, there is no such law in the new testament to send ur wife away. david after repenting from his sin bible called Bathsheba His wife and she was even the mother of Solomon. Paul said u can't be a bishop if u hav more than one. that statement alone showef that dere are Christians that are with more than one wife. he didn't say they should put them away but they can't be ordained as bishop.
God said he hates putting away, so why should twist bible to win an argument??

You have to understand that these minions have surrendered their thinking to the Pastor, such that whatever the Pastor says is FINAL. They are unable to perform independent research as this will be seen as a sure sign of backsliding or lack of faith.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by murphybo(m): 10:43am On Jan 22, 2018
somehow:
Can you prove this biblically that marrying more than one wife will take you to hell? Meaning all the prophets and men after God's own heart are in hell?
Read Isiah 4 vs 1
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by doctorbabs(m): 10:48am On Jan 22, 2018
Abraham got married to 3wives and Solomon with 700 and concubines and some other prophet mentioned in the bible. At least, we all still regard to Abraham as a father of faith.
Re: Is Marriage Restitution For Men With 2 Or More Wives Actually Scriptural? by Nobody: 11:01am On Jan 22, 2018
lonikit:


my brother, dont quote out of context. read the whole chapter to understand that portion or u read from verse 16. I will not explain it cus I want u to read and comprehend.

I'm not in anyway advocating for a Christian to marry more than one wife but if u av done it bfr being born again, there is no such law in the new testament to send ur wife away. david after repenting from his sin bible called Bathsheba His wife and she was even the mother of Solomon. Paul said u can't be a bishop if u hav more than one. that statement alone showef that dere are Christians that are with more than one wife. he didn't say they should put them away but they can't be ordained as bishop.
God said he hates putting away, so why should twist bible to win an argument??
I never supported putting away. If you become born again you can't put away away the wives you had married. It will be unfair to do such but if you were born again and you got married to a second wife then it is an issue. Hence you have to restitute

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