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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by scholes0(m): 4:49pm On Jan 22, 2018
BabaIbo:

it's neither Yoruba FYI, it's just a Nigerian word... with various names like kpomo, ponmo, kanda, tinko... yorubas don't call it kpomo, they call it ponmo and it's not specific to any tribe...

Stop lying through your teeth!
DemonInSiege I hope you can now see him in full action denying the Yoruba origin of that word , and now ascribing it to “Nigerian” in order to neutralize its actual origin. lol

Keep decieving yourelf, Kpomo:Pomo however you chose to spell it is Yoruba, Tinko and Kanda are Northern.

I’m outta here jare.

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by BabaIbo: 4:50pm On Jan 22, 2018
laydoh:
aswear 2 G,u r a fool,jst because dey consume more sugar than us then mean they are superior 2 us in med?y r u daft lyk dis nigga.go 2 dia state n witness aw dem dey patronize yoruba agbo,wonders shall neva end,hausa owning agbo jedi jedi,says who.and na hausa own tinko no b you pple.or shey u get camel for ur side ni.fem fem

do you have sugarcane am not talking of that shit you guys have in your dirty backyards o... I mean that kind of sugarcane they sell at the market...

you said we don't rear camel, so tinko is not ours but yorubas rear cows abi, I guess that's why you own ponmo... anuohia.
you be confirm utele/olodo
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by Chukazu: 4:55pm On Jan 22, 2018
scholes0:


Which part cool

All of them.

I grew up using those words , before I ever stepped my foot on Yoruba land.

Am sure the Same goes to any Ibo man dead or alive, so when you say" borrowed"... maybe I need to wake up my ancestors from grave to confirm, that's if Dem body never rust finish
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by DemonInSiege: 4:57pm On Jan 22, 2018
Probz:


I’m now denigrating Igbo consciousness for saying that some words are shared between Igbo and Yoruba?

I’ve seen it all.



Come with prove
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by BabaIbo: 4:57pm On Jan 22, 2018
scholes0:


Stop lying through your teeth!
DemonInSiege I hope you can now see him in full action denying the Yoruba origin of that word , and now ascribing it to “Nigerian” in order to neutralize its actual origin. lol

Keep decieving yourelf, Kpomo:Pomo however you chose to spell it is Yoruba, Tinko and Kanda are Northern.

I’m outta here jare.

guy you no get sense at all...
you believed there is a word like iresi from rice abi..
there are words like osikapa, shinkapa... but you're claiming kpomo which does not have any literal or written relationship with the way yoruba words are written as your own... wait your forefathers they rear cow?

igbos are even closer to the source of the cow than your folks... Ebonyi, Enugu are closer to the source than any yoruba state* don't come and list kwara and kogi because they are north central... you don't rear cow or have any sign of rearing cow on your past but you are claiming a word that you can't justify using your yoruba syllable rules
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by scholes0(m): 4:59pm On Jan 22, 2018
Chukazu:


All of them.

I grew up using those words , before I ever stepped my foot on Yoruba land.

Am sure the Same goes to any Ibo man dead or alive, so when you say" borrowed"... maybe I need to wake up my ancestors from grave to confirm, that's if Dem body never rust finish

Be specific!
Which words that’s what I meant.

You can’t say “ohh this word can’t have been borrowed or infused into my language sometime in history simply because I grew up using them” that isn’t an argument.

I grew up calling rice- Iresi, yet it is a borrowed terminology from english.

What is the Igbo word for Boli/bole , i.e roasted plantain?

Didn’t you grow up simply calling it bole?

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by scholes0(m): 5:00pm On Jan 22, 2018
BabaIbo:


guy you no get sense at all...
you believed there is a word like iresi from rice abi..
there are words like osikapa, shinkapa... but you're claiming kpomo which does not have any literal or written relationship with the way yoruba words are written as your own... wait your forefathers they rear cow?

igbos are even closer to the source of the cow than your folks... Ebonyi, Enugu are closer to the source than any yoruba state* don't come and list kwara and kogi because they are north central... you don't rear cow or have any sign of rearing cow on your past but you are claiming a word that you can't justify using your yoruba syllable rules

Low IQ post not worth any dignified reply.

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by DemonInSiege: 5:04pm On Jan 22, 2018
konoplyanka:


Please stop with your ignorance. Yoruba just know ibo I n less than 150 years ago. We had nothing in common and didn't have any contact before the Advent of the colonialists. Ibos it is easy to borrow words from hausas which we have had contact with for centuries than ibos. Also, Edo had influence on ibos and could have made borrowing yoruba words easy.

You don't borrow words from people in foreign land unless they come to learn from your land.


Yoruba borrowed words from Edo people and not the other way round
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by laydoh(m): 5:04pm On Jan 22, 2018
scholes0:
Igbos laying claim to Yoruba words they use everyday is akin to Igbos laying claim to the word Papa meaning (Father) because they now use it in Igbo language.

Papa was never part of the Igbo language from antiquity but now it is.
Such is life.
baba,na u dey spoil matter oo,y u dey argue wit dat ignorant since na.leave him n let him wallow in his ignorance.
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by DemonInSiege: 5:08pm On Jan 22, 2018
konoplyanka:


You know the influence of benins on anioma and onitsha right?



Just like the influence of Benin on Ondo to Lagos, Ekoo is a Benin word
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by Chukazu: 5:08pm On Jan 22, 2018
scholes0:


Be specific!
Which words that’s what I meant.

You can’t say “ohh this word can’t have been borrowed or infused into my language sometime in history simply because I grew up using them” that isn’t an argument.

I grew up calling rice- Iresi, yet it is a borrowed terminoligy from english.

What is the Igbo word for Boli/bole , i.e roasted plantain?

This is getting out of hand.

Igbo language has arguably the most diverse dialects..and I am more in tune with my dialect than the general Ibo.
Boli is Yoruba,has nothing to do with my language.

Rice is " Osikakpa" in Ibo

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by scholes0(m): 5:09pm On Jan 22, 2018
DemonInSiege:


Yoruba borrowed words from Edo people and not the other way round

Lol a “few” Edo words of Yoruba origin.
Off the top of my head.

Iyan (pounded yam), Ogban (30), Aga (Chair), Gedu (Timber), Ewu (Blouse/clothing top), Iyi (Honor), Agan (Barren), Bata (Shoe), Ishana (Matchstick), Oko (Canoe), Ologbo (Cat), Itan (History /Story), Elubo (Flour), ago (Camp), Abe (Blade/Razor), Agbo (Ram), adugbo (which you people call “Edogbo”)-Neighborhood, Pataki/Kpataki (Important). Etc etc. Too numerous to enumerate here.

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by BabaIbo: 5:11pm On Jan 22, 2018
Probz:


Igbo and Igala borrowed osikapa from shinkafa though. That one na truth.


sorry for saying this, I doubt it, you are not igbo...

is there any proof to back what you mentioned above

Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by scholes0(m): 5:11pm On Jan 22, 2018
Chukazu:


This is getting out of hand.

Igbo language has arguably the most diverse dialects..and I am more in tune with my dialect than the general Ibo.
Boli is Yoruba,has nothing to do with my language.

Rice is " Osikakpa" in Ibo

Did you call roasted plantain Boli while growing up or not?
It was simply an example.

You didn’t list any specific examples and weren't making any sense either.
Just made a general statement.

Which of the words do you want to point at. I never asked YOU about what rice is. Neither did I enquire from you if Igbo has many dialects or not.

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by DemonInSiege: 5:14pm On Jan 22, 2018
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scholes0:


Most of these Yoruba words in Igbo are less that 50 years old, not to mention 150. Although many more ete even okder.
And the infusion is still going on.

Also many Yoruboid words entered Ika and Northern Igbo dialects that you won’t find in places like Abia or Imo. Go and fight with history not me.

I don’t know about Igbo but Yorubas were in contact with pretty much every ethnic group in southern Nigeria, Northern nigeria and Dahomey including Igbos. except Ibibios.

Yoruba contact with Igbos did happen.
There are Okukumi communities in Anioma for example.

Those Igbos in the Imo basin and all those Abia people on the other hand only had little contact with the rest of Nigeria.
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Asaba people only have contacts with the Benin Kingdom and not yoruba people
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by vioment: 5:15pm On Jan 22, 2018
LordNapoleon:
Akara is fried bean cake while moi moi is cooked bean cake

Thank you for info. It's just not clicking with me. I never chop fried cake before.
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by scholes0(m): 5:15pm On Jan 22, 2018
DemonInSiege:
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Asaba people only have contacts with the Benin Kingdom and not yoruba people

Ok, have a cookie.

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by BabaIbo: 5:16pm On Jan 22, 2018
Chukazu:


This is getting out of hand.

Igbo language has arguably the most diverse dialects..and I am more in tune with my dialect than the general Ibo.
Boli is Yoruba,has nothing to do with my language.

Rice is " Osikakpa" in Ibo

I will advise you not to argue with that kid and even if you want to, remember what you type because he will always beat around the bish n try to twist your words

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by theDEVILisHERE: 5:19pm On Jan 22, 2018
scholes0:


Those are different from ehhhhn.

Standard igbo words dont end in such nasals: ehhhn, uhhhn, ahhhn, ohhhn etc except some dialects like Ngwa that pronounce words like Fish (Azu) as Azuñ.

Argue with Reality.

If you are not Igbo you have no right to tell Igbo's about their words and sentences

You only make a fool of yourself and your linage by engaging in such act of stupidity

You and your people can go to your enclaves and teach each other whatever knowledge you claim know about yourselves, nobody gives a shit

Stop meddling in other peoples business

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by DemonInSiege: 5:21pm On Jan 22, 2018
fatiaforreal:
Igbo is sub-Yoruba race. Take it or leave it, that's the truth!



Cone head, your your people are turning to fulanis in Kwara and you're talking of Igbo, you don't want to admit that Yoruba is sub group of Benin if Edo today, you
Let Oduduwa the son of the Benin king raign for ever in yoruba land
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by scholes0(m): 5:23pm On Jan 22, 2018
theDEVILisHERE:


If you are not Igbo you have no right to tell Igbo's about their words and sentences

You only make a fool of yourself and your linage by engaging in such act of stupidity

You and your people can go to your enclaves and teach each other whatever knowledge you claim know about yourselves, nobody gives a shit

Stop meddling in other peoples business

I can meddle in wherever I like, especially if such people are laying exclusive ownership to words endemic to my language cool

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by BabaIbo: 5:23pm On Jan 22, 2018
DemonInSiege:
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Asaba people only have contacts with the Benin Kingdom and not yoruba people

He said people under imo basin area are not connected with the rest of nigeria, lol... I don't want to talk about that, so Imo, Anambra etc are not connected to Nigeria...

Obas that most yorubas king use is a Benin word, Adesua and some other name is also of Benin root...

I think this is a clear example of what we have been dragging since...
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by BabaIbo: 5:25pm On Jan 22, 2018
theDEVILisHERE:


If you are not Igbo you have no right to tell Igbo's about their words and sentences

You only make a fool of yourself and your linage by engaging in such act of stupidity

You and your people can go to your enclaves and teach each other whatever knowledge you claim know about yourselves, nobody gives a shit

Stop meddling in other peoples business

the best thing you can do is ignore him, he knows nothing but claim to know all with constructive reasons
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by BabaIbo: 5:27pm On Jan 22, 2018
Thank you guys both matured and immature, wise and foolish, sensible and senseless for this argument... One love
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by Probz(m): 5:28pm On Jan 22, 2018
BabaIbo:



sorry for saying this, I doubt it, you are not igbo...

is there any proof to back what you mentioned above

LMFAO.

Osikapa was borrowed from shinkafa. Deal with it.

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by Originalsly: 5:28pm On Jan 22, 2018
bibe:


A European traveler of that period who was expediting in present day Nigeria starting his journey from yoruba lands to other parts of the present day Nigeria made note of the light skinned nature of the Igbos he encountered during his travels (compared to other ethnicities he had encountered)
Can't remember the name of the book but I actually came across it through nairaland. It was also during the period of Yoruba inter-tribal wars.
I hear you.Hmmm...so during this period of war he was exploring... and knew they were Igbos...maybe they were Albinos?...or offsprings of his fellow European travellers who sexually exploited the natives?...like they do today? So what happened to those light skinned Igbos he said he saw?...they became extinct?
No offence....I just happen to be a critical thinker!
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by theDEVILisHERE: 5:35pm On Jan 22, 2018
scholes0:


I can meddle in wherever I like, especially if such people are laying exclusive ownership to words endemic to my language cool


Only a fool is audacious in Stupidity


keep bringing shame to your people

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by DemonInSiege: 5:37pm On Jan 22, 2018
scholes0:


He said that was the “igbo spelling” of a word that isn’t even igbo. Instead of just simply agreeing that it had never been Igbo.

He went further to state that Kpomo was one of the various names that Igbos call hide/meat including others like tinko and Kanda which he claims they pack from the north- This was even after he had been admonished by a fellow Igbo sister that kpomo was never a pooular food item in the east until fairly rexently.


You lied, I read his comments
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by scholes0(m): 5:37pm On Jan 22, 2018
theDEVILisHERE:



Only a fool is audacious in Stupidity


keep bringing shame your people

speak to, and on behalf of your cohort and mates.

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by scholes0(m): 5:38pm On Jan 22, 2018
DemonInSiege:


Lies, I read his comments

Of course you did.
Even the first one on this page too.

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Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by maclatunji: 5:41pm On Jan 22, 2018
Odingo1:

Your claim have no basis,
Any criminal can lay ambush on people and capture them even in this modern time, that does not show that this people have dominance over the people they captured, infact it shows weakness on their part unlike Bini direct rule over lagos and its environs.

In history,there is never in any book or documentary that shows that any part of Igboland is under conquest from Bini or Fulani.
The reason is that Igbo villages in the olden days are heavily fortified from the entrance and Igbos have no central king that give orders or rule over an entire region.So many empires like Bini is afraid to go eastward because you will fight the war village by village,even the Brittish saw red in Igboland.

Awwww... It gets better with time.
Re: Red Ibo In Jamaica: A Profile Of The Igbo People Of Jamaica by Chukazu: 6:05pm On Jan 22, 2018
scholes0:


Did you call roasted plantain Boli while growing up or not?
It was simply an example.

You didn’t list any specific examples and weren't making any sense either.
Just made a general statement.

Which of the words do you want to point at. I never asked YOU about what rice is. Neither did I enquire from you if Igbo has many dialects or not.

I never called plantain boli... even in Lagos I never do that

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