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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:09am On Feb 05, 2018
Kog45:
I rate Uzoho highly but nothing spectacular from Argentina in the second half,pls go and watch the match again, he had normal game that average keeper would have,pls am not taking anything from him but that's the fact.

Egbon no fear, say it as it is.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:10am On Feb 05, 2018
About two I believe... Which he claimed with ease. I recall two well.

And wait ooo... Alampasu did play against Togo shaa ooo.. But iit was not for long. Not even up to 45 mins. But I speak of watching him a few times in Portugal long before recent times (during the time of the WC qualifiers final round grouo stage which began in 2016) and I reckon he was pretty good especially aerially. He is also very good at shot-stopping. But like all young goalies he got some weaknesses he is still working on.


See ehn... In the end... Na these upcoming friendlies go decide the final three.


forgiveness:


How many aerial balls came at Uzoho?

Alampasu has kept for once against Togo. His case worst pass. We never see anything from him lately. Pass glory can't save him or take him to world cup?

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:11am On Feb 05, 2018
Icon4s:


Ow, you have changed it to "chances" . I thought you were affirmative about having better players than these ones.

Name them now you no fit.

Where did you get affirmative from? Understand the point before jumping in.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:12am On Feb 05, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Well for Uzoho that one match came against Argentina. A much bigger and better opponent than any we have faced under Rohr so far. So it is a big deal. But he certainly needs more friendlies to sew what else he got for us and why he should be trusted going forward.


And yes , Enyeama is not so good aerially.

On Ajiboye, well today was evident. I have always known he struggles a bit with crosses from the U-20s even but again it shows it is still a weakness for him within the first few mins of the morocco game. Morocco scored a goal which was chalked off for going out of play. Ajiboye went for the cross that led to the ruled out goal and missed it completely. Aerially he really struggles.... Years on from the U-17s and U-20s, he hasn't overcome that weakness.






We need to see Uzoho again and that is not the only attribute needed to make a final verdict. We need to see see all aspect of him.

We can not use 10 years ago event to pass a verdict on Ajiboye. Now, is the koko.

Today, can you please tell me how many aerial balls he fumbled?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:12am On Feb 05, 2018
DrLikita12:


Better it happens before the world cup instead of during the world cup sir. If his own '4' has loaded he should come and collect it soon.


Still......

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:12am On Feb 05, 2018
Icon4s:


Egbon no fear, say it as it is.
Fear ke,honestly i rate him highly and Alampasu just cos of their height.I love tall keepers but Uzoho cannot survive this set of defenders we paraded at CHAN,that's my point.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:14am On Feb 05, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
About two I believe... Which he claimed with ease. I recall two well.

And wait ooo... Alampasu did play against Togo shaa ooo.. But iit was not for long. Not even up to 45 mins. But I speak of watching him a few times in Portugal long before recent times (during the time of the WC qualifiers final round grouo stage which began in 2016) and I reckon he was pretty good especially aerially. He is also very good at shot-stopping. But like all young goalies he got some weaknesses he is still working on.


See ehn... In the end... Na these upcoming friendlies go decide the final three.



Now we are talking. EOD
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:14am On Feb 05, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
I am not gonna watch that 4-0 massacre again.... Mbanu! Don't want to see 9men on the field as I saw today. Don't want to see Osas looking so shambolic. Ikwuowem was much better biko.... Bad is better than worse... Ikwuowem showed some good distribution with the ball and no goal came from his wing... All came from Osas' wing. Honestly, Sir GoodJoe... Watching that game again will be torture. Once is enough.




What about the faulty clearance from Ikuowem that led to a goal, it is not only from which wing goal came from. Look at that missed clearance, Ikuowem was even in a wrong position.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:14am On Feb 05, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


Where did you get affirmative from? Understand the point before jumping in.

You are in agreement with those that posted that these are not the best players in the league.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:17am On Feb 05, 2018
Icon4s:


You are in agreement with those that posted that these are not the best players in the league.

My point is that we could parade better players in this tournament than players like these who could not kick and control ball.

My solution is to work with a larger pool the way we do in the best and from the large pool, select the best in every role. I can bet if we do that, lots of the players paraded here would not make the team.

Whether the players come from the NPFL or not, is not my criteria.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:18am On Feb 05, 2018
And Uzoho we shall see again and again... We got five friendlies lined up...so make una relax. grin


Talk about now... Ajiboye is still weak on aerial balls....

How many he fumbled? Loolll... I will ask how many he even got to face... Just that one he got which was converted but later ruled out was superbly miscalculated. This is a trait even Ezenwa showed during the qualifiers against Algeria. Ajiboye is still weak aerially. I think your question is out to show he is not weak there abi? Anyway, I just know that Rohr will drop either of Ezenwa or Ajiboye.... And whether we like it or not, I think I can tell you who Rohr will drop.



forgiveness:



We need to see Uzoho again and that is not the only attribute needed to make a final verdict. We need to see see all aspect of him.

We can not use 10 years ago event to pass a verdict on Ajiboye. Now, is the koko.

Today, can you please tell me how many aerial ball he fumbled?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:18am On Feb 05, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
About two I believe... Which he claimed with ease. I recall two well.

And wait ooo... Alampasu did play against Togo shaa ooo.. But iit was not for long. Not even up to 45 mins. But I speak of watching him a few times in Portugal long before recent times (during the time of the WC qualifiers final round grouo stage which began in 2016) and I reckon he was pretty good especially aerially. He is also very good at shot-stopping. But like all young goalies he got some weaknesses he is still working on.


See ehn... In the end... Na these upcoming friendlies go decide the final three.


Finito na friendlies be d koko
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:20am On Feb 05, 2018
Icon4s:


Were you part of those that drew the selection program? Tell me those players you feel are supposed to be in the team. You cannot.

Na make salisu invite 1000 players to camp.

It must not be a thousand players but a few hundreds. If Amunike can do it for the U20, why can't Salisu do it? If he is not ready for the work, he should step down.

That is why I said we should treat this tournament with more seriousness.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:21am On Feb 05, 2018
That faulty clearance was the miskick naa... I already mentioned it. And I told you that the buildup all starred with Osas' excursion scheme again... He lazily allowed that ball to be whipped in, in the first place and Ikwuowem miskicked and viola, a goal... Goal came from Osas' wing leakage again just like the other goals did. Many bad moments for Osas... But few bad moments for Ikwuowem. That is the story.


TheGoodJoe:


What about the faulty clearance from Ikuowem that led to a goal, it is not only from which wing goal came from. Look at that missed clearance, Ikuowem was even in a wrong position.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:22am On Feb 05, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
And Uzoho we shall see again and again... We got five friendlies lined up...so make una relax. grin


Talk about now... Ajiboye is still weak on aerial balls....

How many he fumbled? Loolll... I will ask how many he even got to face... Just that one he got which was converted but later ruled out was superbly miscalculated. This is a trait even Ezenwa showed during the qualifiers against Algeria. Ajiboye is still weak aerially. I think your question is out to show he is not weak there abi? Anyway, I just know that Rohr will drip either of Ezenwa or Ajiboye.... And whether we like it or not, I think I can tell you who Rohr will drop.




Ajiboye had another aerial threat which he dealt with by using a power punch.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:23am On Feb 05, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
That faulty clearance was rhe miskick naa... I already mentioned it. And I told you that the buildup all starred with Osas' excursion scheme again... He lazily allowed that ball to be whipped in, in the first place and Ikwuowem miskicked and viola, a goal... Goal came from Osas' wing leakage again just like the other goals did. Many bad moments for Osas... But few bad moments for Ikwuowem. That is the story.



Ikuowem did not just miskick, he was off position too.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:25am On Feb 05, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


My point is that we could parade better players in this tournament than players like these who could not kick and control ball.

My solution is to work with a larger pool the way we do in the best and from the large pool, select the best in every role. I can bet if we do that, lots of the players paraded here would not make the team.

Whether the players come from the NPFL or not, is not my criteria.

I am sure you know Salisu Yusuf was saddled with the responsibility of monitoring players in the league. That he has done for about a year now aside the fact that he has been a coach in the league for years.

TheGoodJoe, you don't know the league and the players better than Salisu.
Dont you even know he has a reputation to protect?

He sees these players week in week out and so doesn't need to assemble a pool of hundreds of players before he can select his team. These people are professionals o.

You watch football from the comfort of your living room. You don't know the selection process better than Salisu. Take that from me.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:26am On Feb 05, 2018
I disagree. No average keeper will save that headed chance from Dario Benedetto. No average keeper will keep calm after being thrown in that manner on his debut in the second half with your team 2-0 down. No average keeper will keep that clean sheet. So I definitely disagree.

It was not a spectacular showing but very decent from a 19-year-old. No average goalie will keep calm at the back and organise his defence to give his team a fighting chance of coming back from 2-0 down without conceeding another... That is the Truth.


In all, like I already said... Let the upcoming friendlies decide. They are the final Pre-WC exams to determine the three.


Kog45:
I rate Uzoho highly but nothing spectacular from Argentina in the second half,pls go and watch the match again, he had normal game that average keeper would have,pls am not taking anything from him but that's the fact.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:26am On Feb 05, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


It must not be a thousand players but a few hundreds. If Amunike can do it for the U20, why can't Salisu do it? If he is not ready for the work, he should step down.

That is why I said we should treat this tournament with more seriousness.

Go and apply for the job then.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 12:26am On Feb 05, 2018
Icon4s:
Wait. Moses Eneji is 18years old?

Leave these new generation kids, they grow as if they add fertilizer to their food, they look more mature than their ages.

Ola Aina looks older than me, and him no even reach me anywhere sha.

I used to make the error of judging these lads with my age, not paying much attention to my special gene.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:28am On Feb 05, 2018
How? He was towards the left of Ajiboye's goal although closer to the centre... Do you know how many annoying times Osas was off-position? Mehn... You cannot use just one or two bad moments to label Ikwuowem the worst when Osas had "an all night long" of bad moments to enable us make a movie on bad moments.....


TheGoodJoe:


Ikuowem did not just miskick, he was off position too.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:28am On Feb 05, 2018
Some interesting comments:

Truly speaking, this group of players cannot be said to be the best in our local league. Even though they were hurriedly selected, I see some nepotic and religious spicing in the list. How many players came from MFN, Ifeanyi Uba, Insurance etc. Last year Nigeria local based were carefully selected to Spain for a tour, I saw some of the great games they played against some Spanish club team, in fact they played quality football. By Vindave

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:28am On Feb 05, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
And Uzoho we shall see again and again... We got five friendlies lined up...so make una relax. grin


Talk about now... Ajiboye is still weak on aerial balls....

How many he fumbled? Loolll... I will ask how many he even got to face... Just that one he got which was converted but later ruled out was superbly miscalculated. This is a trait even Ezenwa showed during the qualifiers against Algeria. Ajiboye is still weak aerially. I think your question is out to show he is not weak there abi? Anyway, I just know that Rohr will drip either of Ezenwa or Ajiboye.... And whether we like it or not, I think I can tell you who Rohr will drop.





Ajiboye I suspiciously and closely monitored today only fumbled once aerially.

He did perfectly well aerially and even made a save from one aerial ball.

You can not see any flaws in that area.

Ezenwa own is too obvious.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:32am On Feb 05, 2018
Which Insurance? The one that has been stuck in Division Two? :roll:Who from MFM is missing from this team? Apart from Stephen Odey who is now overseas? Meanwhile, Ikechukwu Ezenwa and Stephen Ezeh were at Ifeanyi Ubah when they were called up for the team. We should always be ready for introspection when we lose. That's the only real 'benefit' of losing (to review, learn, correct and do better next time), but sadly in Nigeria the instinct is almost always to go to the DARK and BASE place - ethnicity, religion, etc. Unfortunately, because we miss the real problems (and chase shadows) we keep repeating our mistakes. SMDH... By Gotti

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:32am On Feb 05, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
I disagree. No average keeper will save that headed chance from Dario Benedetto. No average keeper will keep calm after being thrown in that manner on his debut in the second half with your team 2-0 down. No average keeper will keep that clean sheet. So I definitely disagree.

It was not a spectacular showing but very decent from a 19-year-old. No average goalie will keep calm at the back and organise his defence to give his team a fighting chance of coming back from 2-0 down without conceeding another... That is the Truth.


In all, like I already said... Let the upcoming friendlies decide. They are the final Pre-WC exams to determine the three.


I don hear you o cos have watched the match over and over again and if any of those chances score any keeper then that keeper is damn poor.

Kudos to him for being calmed all through the 45 minutes against Argentina especially on his debut which Akpeyi cannot do.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:35am On Feb 05, 2018
Egbon Forgiveness... If you call those unchallenged simple punches "aerial" then I wonder...

And that one he saved in the second half too where he was obstructed by Eze I think was not aerial shaa ooo. The ball was midlevel and Ajiboye punched it...

And I do see flaws... I know you are trying to say Ajiboye is strong aerially but the reality is that he is not. Ezenwa too is not. Both are on the same level aerially.... >>>>>>not good enough.


forgiveness:



Ajiboye I suspiciously and closely monitored today only fumbled once aerially.

He did perfectly well aerially and even made a save from one aerial ball.

You can not see any flaws in that area.

Ezenwa own is too obvious.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:36am On Feb 05, 2018
TheGoodJoe:
Some interesting comments:

Truly speaking, this group of players cannot be said to be the best in our local league. Even though they were hurriedly selected, I see some nepotic and religious spicing in the list. How many players came from MFN, Ifeanyi Uba, Insurance etc. Last year Nigeria local based were carefully selected to Spain for a tour, I saw some of the great games they played against some Spanish club team, in fact they played quality football. By Vindave

That is a personal opinion.

And yes the team that went to Spain played better football than this team just also like the last two CHAN teams played better football. But a lot of those players have left the local league. These are the ones around now.

The league cannot simply give what it does not have. That is my point. And if you know any player that deserved to be in this team but was left out please mention the name and let's discuss it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:37am On Feb 05, 2018
It's not quite as simple as that.First, player selection comes from proper scouting. The coach takes some of the blame here, but we clearly need a better mechanism for scouting players. Any time we build teams form home this is usually an issue, so it goes beyond any particular coach.

Secondly, any coach needs time to build a team. There was never any real programme for this team. Rather, the coach scrambled together a side any time the team was needed. I know that finances have been a challenge, but we can do better.Thirdly, there will always be a transient nature to the home based side, because it's a stepping stone to players leaving for greener pastures.

Imagine how much stronger this team would have been with the likes of Stephen Odey, Alhassan Ibrahim and others who left the team in tow. Good players will always leave the team and good players will always leave the NPFL. So devising a means of coping with that is paramount.

Lastly, the Nigerian League standard is not where it needs to be. You can say that the coaches should have brought this player or that player, but a majority of the players on this team are well regarded in the NPFL. If the league standard was where it should be this selection would have sufficed to give us a good team. Losses like this are meant to give us lessons, and I hope that this will spur the NFF and the LMC to redouble their efforts in improving the league.So this should not be about the usual fire brigade stuff that we tend to pull (sacking Yusuf would be fire brigade). Rather, we need to take the proper lessons from this and move on... By Mystic

Interesting comment but he is stating the problem. The question is, what is the solution to the massive exodus of quality players from the Pro League?

Spread the net to a larger pool of players and do a thorough screening process than relying on scouting a league that has an exodus of quality players problem.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:41am On Feb 05, 2018
You see why you should be careful what you say..?

Several players in that squad have migrated outside Nigeria, and aren't eligible (Nwobodo, Egbuchulam, etc)People here on CE are shellacking the domestic league, but forget NPFL has a peculiar problem:NPFL loses the best players at the end of every season; that means NPFL sheds quality annually.That loss of quality must surely affect Nigeria's player-pool for a tournament like CHAN.This current CHAN squad isn't a true reflection of the best in the NPFL: some key players from last season have emigrated & are not eligible...by Father Tiko

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:42am On Feb 05, 2018
And I suppose that simple basic punch unchallenged which came straight right at him is counted as an aerial threat? Na wa....

Plsss lok at that one that came from the wings abi na cronerkick again which resulted in a goal which was ruled out... What was Ajiboye thinking? That is the kind of Aerial threat I speak of... Not ones going right straight at him into his palms.

I speak of aerials from the wings or sides...


TheGoodJoe:


Ajiboye had another aerial threat which he dealt with by using a power punch.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:46am On Feb 05, 2018
From the debate, the problem remains poor pool of players and the fact that the drain will continue. So I find it difficult to believe that scouting a poor pool will provide a strong squad. I disagree.

So, as long as the drain continues, we need to adopt an innovative strategy to combat this challenge.

My suggestion remains increasing the pool of players, camping them, screening and selecting the best.

I do not see a better solution.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:51am On Feb 05, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
And I suppose that simple basic punch unchallenged which came straight right at him is counted as an aerial threat? Na wa....

Plsss lok at that one that came from the wings abi na cronerkick again which resulted in a goal which was ruled out... What was Ajiboye thinking? That is the kind of Aerial threat I speak of... Not ones going right straight at him into his palms.

I speak of aerials from the wings or sides...



It is an aerial threat and he chose the right option by dealing with it with a punch.

The one you are talking about was the one that went off field but his approach was wrong. Another came that was nodded away from goal.

However, keepers limited in height should opt for dealing with aerial threats with power punches than going for a catch.

By the way, the one he punched came from the side. It was not direct.

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