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Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by ufidelis: 7:55am On Feb 06, 2018
Nigeria is its own nation with its various tribes. blacks!
Israel is its own nation with its various tribes. coloured!
Levites is a tribe in Israel. Let them get their visas & rush to Nigeria to collect their accumulated tithes being collected on their behalf. but while they do so, no Nigerian should join them cos Nigeria is not Israel genetically n otherwise. Any Nigerian that comes for the tithe is a fraud n an imposter

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Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by connectikut89(m): 11:32am On Feb 06, 2018
petra1:


Thanks for the compliment



JESUS SAYS TO TITHE
Matthew 23:23
. . . You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

Oga you will forever be a nitwit. No amount of bible verses you read can change that. Was Jesus addressing his disciples? Was he addressing his followers? He was addressing the Pharisees you fool. You want to be Christ-like, walk in His steps. He never gave tithes, He never asked his disciples and followers to. Neither did Paul, Peter, John or any other Apostle. Until you show us instances stop being silly abeg.

And I see some of your other replies saying Tithing predates the Law of Moses. I agree Abraham and Jacob gave a tenth once in their lifetime. Joseph never gave a tenth yet God bestowed a great gift upon him and he was a great and successful man so what's your point? Stop defending the indefensible abeg
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by connectikut89(m): 11:45am On Feb 06, 2018
OkaiCorne:


The funny thing is how these people keep on defending a Jewish custom as mandatory for Christians to follow.

These guys are like the same set of confusionists that arose in the apostolic church in Acts 15 preaching that Mosaic Laws (tithing inclusive) is mandatory for Christians to be saved.

These guys don't even tithe the way God instructed the Israelites to...

Simply thieves who are twisting the word of God for their personal gain...


He should go and defend his Jewish customs in Judaism where they belong. There he would even practice all the ordinances in the Law of Moses including the ones that favour their pockets. His arguments are almost always flawed, non-sequitur and illogical. His type and his Pastors are the weeds in Christianity. They are the ones responsible for the divisions in the faith because they won't adhere to the doctrines of the early Christians because it is not financially profitable.
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by petra1(m): 12:00pm On Feb 06, 2018
connectikut89:

Oga you will forever be a nitwit. No amount of bible verses you read can change that. Was Jesus addressing his disciples? Was he addressing his followers? He was addressing the Pharisees you fool. You want to be Christ-like, walk in His steps. He never gave tithes, He never asked his disciples and followers to. Neither did Paul, Peter, John or any other Apostle. Until you show us instances stop being silly
And I see some of your other replies saying Tithing predates the Law of Moses. I agree Abraham and Jacob gave a tenth once in their lifetime.

We only have a one time record written . I doesn’t mean they gave only once . Even as at that . It’s the principle that count . And please stop being insultive it’s carnal and unspritual

Joseph never gave a tenth yet God bestowed a great gift upon him and he was a great and successful man so what's your point? Stop defending the indefensible abeg

How can he give tithes in Egypt when they were not at liberty to worship jehovah . The more reason God was eager to get them out .

Exodus 7:16
16 And thou shalt say unto him, The Lord God of the Hebrews hath sent me unto thee, saying, Let my people go, that they may serve me in the wilderness
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And what did God do when they left Egypt’ , he instituted the tithing principle again

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Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by petra1(m): 12:42pm On Feb 06, 2018
ufidelis:

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YOU SAID WE TITHE BASED ON ABRAHAM REVELATION. BUT THERE IS NO REVELATION LIKE THAT. WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT ABRAHAM TITHE ONCE IN HIS LIFETIME OF 175 YRS & HE TITHED OUT OF HIS BOOTIES, THINGS HE STOLE FROM VICTIMS OF WAR. HE IS A BAD EXAMPLE.

Abraham didn’t steal that’s insult . You don’t need to insult avbraham sacred giving because you eat your tithe
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YOU FORGOT TO MENTIONED THAT ANYTHING GIVEN TO GOD MUST BE BURNED UNT TO ROBBING GOD

Wrong ! It’s sin offering that is burnt not tithe !

. " for as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is is everyone that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them".

Was alms not in the law ? Was free will offering not in the law ? Was prayer not in the law . Why is it Tithe’s people manipulate scripture against . It only shows its sacred that’s why sarah attacks it . Besides tithing existed not in the law but before the law came
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SO U SEE. IF YOU MUST TITHE, THEN U CANNOT IGNORE THE OTHER PART OF THE LAW THAT COMMANDS THAT U SHOULD STONE TO DEATH THOSE WHO VIOLATE THE COMMANDMENTS OF THE LAW. INFACT, ALL OTHER SHARIA LAWS GIVEN BY GOD DURING THAT SAME TIME SHOULD GO WITH IT!

Wrong!! The other part it says not to neglect is justice and mercy

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Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by OkaiCorne(m): 1:06pm On Feb 06, 2018
connectikut89:


He should go and defend his Jewish customs in Judaism where they belong. There he would even practice all the ordinances in the Law of Moses including the ones that favour their pockets. His arguments are almost always flawed, non-sequitur and illogical. His type and his Pastors are the weeds in Christianity. They are the ones responsible for the divisions in the faith because they won't adhere to the doctrines of the early Christians because it is not financially profitable.

I just dey laugh at all their half-baked teachings on tithe...

If Jesus, God's own very son never collected tithe from His followers, even the Apostles who never preached tithing was necessary in Christianity...

Then how be it that a Nigerian Pastor automatically becomes a "Levite without inheritance" to start collecting monetary tithes from congregants?

Even tithe was never paid monetarily as God instructed in Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29...

Chai...these people can lie for money and even set Jesus up too...
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by OkaiCorne(m): 1:08pm On Feb 06, 2018
petra1:


We only have a one time record written . I doesn’t mean they gave only once . Even as at that . It’s the principle that count . And please stop being insultive it’s carnal and unspritual



How can he give tithes in Egypt when they were not at liberty to worship jehovah . The more reason God was eager to get them out .

Exodus 7:16
16 And thou shalt say unto him, The Lord God of the Hebrews hath sent me unto thee, saying, Let my people go, that they may serve me in the wilderness
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And what did God do when they left Egypt’ , he instituted the tithing principle again

If you are truly a follower of Jesus and not a Pharisee...please show us where Jesus who is God's begotten son, collected tithe from His followers...

Also show us where the Apostles preached tithing was necessary for God to bless you as a Christian...

Please open Acts 15 and tell us if tithing is part of the things required of you as a Christian...
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by connectikut89(m): 1:14pm On Feb 06, 2018
petra1:


We only have a one time record written . I doesn’t mean they gave only once . Even as at that . It’s the principle that count . And please stop being insultive it’s carnal and unspritual



How can he give tithes in Egypt when they were not at liberty to worship jehovah . The more reason God was eager to get them out .

Exodus 7:16
16 And thou shalt say unto him, The Lord God of the Hebrews hath sent me unto thee, saying, Let my people go, that they may serve me in the wilderness
:

And what did God do when they left Egypt’ , he instituted the tithing principle again

First of all, the word is "insulting". There's no such word as "insultive" in any variant of English.

Secondly, you say it is carnal and unscriptural to be insulting? I've got a verse for you bro.
Matthew 23:17 NLT: Blind fools! Which is more important—the gold or the Temple that makes the gold sacred?
Yeah, go ahead, say it, say that our Lord Jesus was being carnal and unscriptural.

Thirdly, you say they couldn't give tithes in Egypt because they were not at liberty to worship God so who were they worshipping? Even if they were in Israel at the time which Priest would they have given their tithes to? Abraham gave tithes to Melchizedek whom he was opportune to meet on his way back from the conquest. Who did Jacob give his tenth? If you say Melchizedek, I'd know you have lost your sense of reasoning. So to whom did he give them? Melchizedek's son? Don't be silly please. Or was there a priest at that time that the bible declined to mention that only you in your warped mind know of? Please tell us.

Finally you say God instituted the principle of tithing again. Please, please, please and please again, do not lie against The Father. Nowhere before He gave Moses the laws did He institute the principle of tithing. Abraham gave a tenth of the spoils of war put of his own volition.

Now run along and be a good boy.
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by connectikut89(m): 1:19pm On Feb 06, 2018
OkaiCorne:


I just dey laugh at all their half-baked teachings on tithe...

If Jesus, God's own very son never collected tithe from His followers, even the Apostles who never preached tithing was necessary in Christianity...

Then how be it that a Nigerian Pastor automatically becomes a "Levite without inheritance" to start collecting monetary tithes from congregants?

Even tithe was never paid monetarily as God instructed in Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29...

Chai...these people can lie for money and even set Jesus up too...

Can you believe the mumu even said, somewhere in this thread, that when God was talking about tithes, He was more concerned about the High Priests than the Levites? Something that is explicitly mentioned in the bible o. There's not a length they won't go to defend their fraud

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Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by Dammyjeez(m): 2:32pm On Feb 06, 2018
connectikut89:


Can you believe the mumu even said, somewhere in this thread, that when God was talking about tithes, He was more concerned about the High Priests than the Levites? Something that is explicitly mentioned in the bible o. There's not a length they won't go to defend their fraud
The moment I saw the Petra1 guy quote Luke 18:12 out of context, I knew his church members are in trouble, if indeed he is a pastor!
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by petra1(m): 5:10pm On Feb 06, 2018
connectikut89:

do not lie against The Father.

You still call him father Despite all these trash angry
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by OkaiCorne(m): 5:12pm On Feb 06, 2018
petra1:


You still call him father Despite all these trash angry

Any answers to the last set of questions I asked?
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by connectikut89(m): 8:14pm On Feb 06, 2018
petra1:


You still call him father Despite all these trash angry

This is what you resort to when you have no reply to a superior argument. Listen I have every right to call Him my Father as much as you do, maybe even more because obviously you are not in the grace dispensation with us.

If there's anything I've said wrongly or quoted the bible out of context, say so let's trash it out together.

I'll repeat my questions for emphasis.
1) In what verse of the bible did God institute the principle of tithing before the one He gave Moses?
2) Which High Priest did Jacob give his tenth? How about Isaac?
3) If Joseph had not gone to Egypt, who would he have given tithes to?

If you can answer the above questions convincingly, I'm coming to your church with my January salary as firstfruit or tithe, whichever you wanna call it, I promise.
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by Klimaths: 9:08am On Feb 07, 2018
This tithe issue self tire me. I will the first Nigeria pastor to come out on air and speak against tithe on air. Watch out and see. Tithing is a scam. Just as joining couple in the Church does not have biblical bearing.

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