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Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by ufidelis: 3:15am On Feb 04, 2018
TYPES OF TITHES
.
a). The annual tithe-
this is done once in a year and d items used for this tithing are set aside by d worker for he and His family consumption at any place to which God leads him. it us a festive tithe where d tither enjoys d fruits of his labour with his family n any levites nearby can join him in drinking n eating. these levites are d non engaged in d streets n not d priests in temple. (Deut 14:22-27).. if money is involved, u spend it in buying food n drinks items for your merriment.

b). d 3 yearly tithe.
.
done once in 3 years. the tither gathers the items at d gates of his house and the levites , alongside d widows, orphans
, musicians ( choirs) n decorators come to d gates to pick up these items for their consumption. as u see. you give it out at your house in the streets. ( Deut 14:28-29). this is d tithe with d promise of a blessing.
.
c). the tithe of tithes.
.
10% of 10%.this is d one that goes to d house of god. Once d levites received in d streets, they give a tenth of d collected tithes (10% of 10%, which is actually 0.01% from d tither) to their levitical brothers who are stationed in d temple as priests n d rest is theirs. thus no tither goes to d house of god to tithe directly. from this tithe of tithes, all workers in God's house received their share, and a portion is set aside for God and burnt on his alter. this reaches him via d rising smoke. WHAT IS GIVEN TO GOD MUST BE BURNED! HE DIES NOT GO TO BANKS!! ( Nehemiah 10:38-39).
.
Qualifications of priests to share in d tithe of tithes.
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1. they must not have bald heads n must not shave their beards.
2. they must not officiate at funerals.
3. they must not marry a divorcee.
4. they must marry their wives as virgins.
5. their daughters must nor be sexually immoral.
6. must never leave d sanctuary at any time.
(Lev 21:1-14).
.

Who is robbing who?
.
Just like d sons of eli, d priests or pastors were d ones robbing God . they failed to give god his own share. instead of burning it, they kept it for themselves. they only remember God's share when d food items have gone bad. in today's case, it kept in banks instead of being burnt as a burnt offering as commanded. ( Mal 1:7-8, 2:1, 2:7-9, 3:7-8, Lev 21:6, 6:9-16, Gen 8:20-21)
.
What About Abraham?.
.
he paid tithe out of what he stole from victims of war n not from his legal earning, and paid only ONCE in his lifetime!!.
.
who to tithe?.
.
Only d 11 tribes of Israel. Strangers are not to tithe. Nigerians are strangers!
.


Duration
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.tithing is among d circumstantial laws ( matt 19:cool of d old covenant that must come to an end since it is s faulty covenant. ( Heb 8:5-13, matt 5:21-22, 27-29, 38-39). The levite in d xtian era had lands for working like every other persons (Act 4:36-37). Jesus use d case of d adulterous woman to demonstrate d end of d Mosaic (sharia) laws. It is either all has passed by nailing on d cross, or none has passed.
..
from d acts of apostle, d true Christian church practiced CHEERFUL/ WILLING GIVINGS, WHILE THE ANTICHRIST CHURCHES PRACTICE INTIMIDATED GIVINGS.
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WHAT BRINGS BLESSINGS TO A CHRISTIANS?
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These were clearly stated by Jesus, TITHES was not among them. . Check out d list at Matt 5: 3-12. Do u think Jesus made a mistake?
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IS TITHING A REQUISITE FOR ENTERING INTO God's KINGDOM?
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Capital NO! Jesus listed d requisite for entering into d kingdom and tithe is never among them. Pls see d six things u must practice to secure God's kingdom at Matt 19:16-19. See also Matt 25:34-40, Lk 18:18-20, Lk 10:25-37.
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AS A CHRISTIAN, WHAT IS MEANT BY GIVING TO GOD IS TO GIVE TO THE NEEDY IN THE STREETS! Matt 25:40.
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.HOW DO U GIVE?
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U do not give tto d notice of any body. U don't publicize ur GIVINGS. U don't record ur GIVINGS in a card or notebook. giving must be done secretly as stated by Jesus in Matt 6:1-3. Religious racketeers who go about as men of dog, I mean god, monitor members contributions via open display of giving, n issuing of tithe cards. these are d modern day Sadducees n Pharisees that Jesus cursed in matt 23:23 over tithe collections.
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DO U TITHE WITH MONEY?
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Capital NO!. See Deut 14:24-26. it is clearly stated there. The Israelites used shekels then as currency, but never used it for tithing. Why?. b/c it is man made n u don't used it for offering n tithing. U only use natural things for tithing n offerings. Jesus made it clear that since money is man made you then give it to man cos it is man's picture that is inscribed on it and not God's image. he said: " give to caeser what is caeser's, and to God what is God's". Matt 22:19-21, 17:24-27. read thru d verses to see how Jesus arrived at this conclusion. Jesus violently opposed those who utilized money in d temple/ "house of God. see Matt 21:12.

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Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by Trustme2(m): 5:50am On Feb 04, 2018
Hmmmmm
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by Chiedu4Trump: 5:57am On Feb 04, 2018
ufidelis:
TYPES OF TITHES
.
a). The annual tithe-
this is done once in a year and d items used for this tithing are set aside by d worker for he and His family consumption at any place to which God leads him. it us a festive tithe where d tither enjoys d fruits of his labour with his family n any levites nearby can join him in drinking n eating. these levites are d non engaged in d streets n not d priests in temple. (Deut 14:22-27).. if money is involved, u spend it in buying food n drinks items for your merriment.

b). d 3 yearly tithe.
.
done once in 3 years. the tither gathers the items at d gates of his house and the levites , alongside d widows, orphans
, musicians ( choirs) n decorators come to d gates to pick up these items for their consumption. as u see. you give it out at your house in the streets. ( Deut 14:28-29). this is d tithe with d promise of a blessing.
.
c). the tithe of tithes.
.
10% of 10%.this is d one that goes to d house of god. Once d levites received in d streets, they give a tenth of d collected tithes (10% of 10%, which is actually 0.01% from d tither) to their levitical brothers who are stationed in d temple as priests n d rest is theirs. thus no tither goes to d house of god to tithe directly. from this tithe of tithes, all workers in God's house received their share, and a portion is set aside for God and burnt on his alter. this reaches him via d rising smoke. WHAT IS GIVEN TO GOD MUST BE BURNED! HE DIES NOT GO TO BANKS!! ( Nehemiah 10:38-39).
.
Qualifications of priests to share in d tithe of tithes.
.
1. they must not have bald heads n must not shave their beards.
2. they must not officiate at funerals.
3. they must not marry a divorcee.
4. they must marry their wives as virgins.
5. their daughters must nor be sexually immoral.
6. must never leave d sanctuary at any time.
(Lev 21:1-14).
.

Who is robbing who?
.
Just like d sons of eli, d priests or pastors were d ones robbing God . they failed to give god his own share. instead of burning it, they kept it for themselves. they only remember God's share when d food items have gone bad. in today's case, it kept in banks instead of being burnt as a burnt offering as commanded. ( Mal 1:7-8, 2:1, 2:7-9, 3:7-8, Lev 21:6, 6:9-16, Gen 8:20-21)
.
What About Abraham?.
.
he paid tithe out of what he stole from victims of war n not from his legal earning, and paid only ONCE in his lifetime!!.
.
who to tithe?.
.
Only d 11 tribes of Israel. Strangers are not to tithe. Nigerians are strangers!
.


Duration
.
.tithing is among d circumstantial laws ( matt 19:cool of d old covenant that must come to an end since it is s faulty covenant. ( Heb 8:5-13, matt 5:21-22, 27-29, 38-39). The levite in d xtian era had lands for working like every other persons (Act 4:36-37). Jesus use d case of d adulterous woman to demonstrate d end of d Mosaic (sharia) laws. It is either all has passed by nailing on d cross, or none has passed.
..
from d acts of apostle, d true Christian church practiced CHEERFUL/ WILLING GIVINGS, WHILE THE ANTICHRIST CHURCHES PRACTICE INTIMIDATED GIVINGS.
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OP ur wickedness is evident. grin
When u tell people the truth, how do you want the overseers to maintain their jets?

You want to cut them off from their god mammon?

Carry time oh, some are saved by the Abundance of earthly things.
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by 2cato: 6:20am On Feb 04, 2018
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Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by OkaiCorne(m): 6:22am On Feb 04, 2018
Dear OP, please also add that God never instructed Tithes to be paid monetarily.

In addition, in Acts 15...the Apostles never preached Tithing as a requirement for Christians.

Thank you.

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Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by ufidelis: 3:59pm On Feb 04, 2018
OkaiCorne:
Dear OP, please also add that God never instructed Tithes to be paid monetarily.

In addition, in Acts 15...the Apostles never preached Tithing as a requirement for Christians.

Thank you.
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they have shekels as their money in those day but were never allowed to use it for tithing n offering. Deut 14:24-26. According to Jesus, u don't give money to God since money is man made, that u only give money to man b/c man owns money as shown by man's image on it. IF U ARE ASKED TO GIVE MONEY TO GOD, THEN THAT GOD IS A MAN! .God owns nature, so u give him natural things but don't forget to burn them to him. that's why in his conclusion, Jesus stated that " give to caeser what is caeser's n God what is God's. Matt 22:29-21, 17:24-27. Jesus violently opposed those who utilized money in the temple/ house of God. Matt 21:12

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Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by petra1(m): 4:51pm On Feb 04, 2018
Tithe belong to God right right from the days of father Abraham who’s principle of faith we follow .

Under the law God still commanded isreal to give tithes and offerings. Which is used for the service of the house of God and welfare and support of workers and ministers there .

Leviticus 27:30.
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord.

Numbers 18:21-25
21 And, behold, I have given the Levites all the tithes in Israel for an inheritance in return for their service which they serve, the [menial] service of the Tent of Meeting.


After God Instructed them on the tithe to him through the levites , he asked the people to give another 10% to the poor every 3 years and another 10% for a love feast to eat and drink . That doesn’t replace the tithe to God. And that is the error and deception of daddy freeze . He didn’t mentioned the title to God and gave the impression that the other 10% for feast and for the poor were the same. .

As much as we are not tithing based on the law. We tithe based on Abrahamic revelation . However the explanation here is to throw light on the misrepresentation by daddy freeze .


THERE WERE THREE DIFFERENT KINDS OF TITHES

There were three different kinds of tithes in the Bible

The three different types are as follows:

1. THE LEVITICAL TITHE (sacred to God).

Leviticus 27:30
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord


This tithe is used for the work of service in the place of worship and also for the welfare of the workers there.

Numbers 18:21-25
21 And, behold, I have given the Levites all the tithes in Israel for an inheritance in return for their service which they serve, the [menial] service of the Tent of Meeting.



2. THE TITHE OF THE FEAST (Deut. 14:22-27).(daddy freeze beer boozing tithe )
Deuteronomy 14:22-23
Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always.



3. THE TITHE FOR THE POOR (Deut. 14:28, 29). (Every 3 years)
This is done once in very 3 years . It is shared among the poor . While the main annual tithe still runs .

Deuteronomy 14:28-29
At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest


The first tithe, the one we trace back to Abra­ham (Gen. 14:18-20), is the sacred tithe, given to the Levites and priests for their service to the temple and the congregation in the Old Testa­ment. This is the tithe we continue to give under the priesthood of Melchizedek in the New Testa­ment. It is the tithe consecrated to God and the furtherance of the gospel and has, therefore, validity for all believers in Christ.

Paul was clear enough .

1 Corinthians 9:13-14
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel


Now some may say Paul didn't accept support . That's no big deal . He didn't accept support in Corinth because of their carnality . But he accepted support from some other churches . Same goes for pastors today . Most pastors serve voluntarily. They don't receive support . Over 9% of pastors in Deeper life ,Redeem ,CEC, winners are serving voluntarily. They have their own jobs . In fact one of the criterial by which you are sent out is to first have a good job . Except only few who may be required to serve full time and they may have to resign from their job. To get support from church . Church tithe is used to pay workers , church rent , maintainance , equipment ,projects , generator fuel. Chair hire etc and other expenditures. The pastor is not the owner of church money . Every ministry has structure by which money is handled . A pastor in redeem cannot dip his hand into church account . There are approvals from head quarters for expenditure. Not what bloggers online post who don't even go to church

We are not giving tithes as commanded under the law . Our tithing dates to Abraham before the law came . And that it why the other kinds of tithes were not emphasized . So daddy freeze only dwell on the feast party which is not abrahamic . And antitithers are jumping up that they have a hero (who is not even a Christian )

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Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by Nobody: 4:56pm On Feb 04, 2018
^^^

Trust this crook to rush here and defend the source of his livelihood!

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Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by OkaiCorne(m): 8:53pm On Feb 04, 2018
petra1:


Tithe belong to God right right from the days of father Abraham who’s principle of faith we follow .

Under the law God still commanded isreal to give tithes and offerings. Which is used for the service of the house of God and welfare and support of workers and ministers there .

Leviticus 27:30.
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord.

Numbers 18:21-25
21 And, behold, I have given the Levites all the tithes in Israel for an inheritance in return for their service which they serve, the [menial] service of the Tent of Meeting.


After God Instructed them on the tithe to him through the levites , he asked the people to give another 10% to the poor every 3 years and another 10% for a love feast to eat and drink . That doesn’t replace the tithe to God. And that is the error and deception of daddy freeze . He didn’t mentioned the title to God and gave the impression that the other 10% for feast and for the poor were the same. .

As much as we are not tithing based on the law. We tithe based on Abrahamic revelation . However the explanation here is to throw light on the misrepresentation by daddy freeze .


THERE WERE THREE DIFFERENT KINDS OF TITHES

There were three different kinds of tithes in the Bible

The three different types are as follows:

1. THE LEVITICAL TITHE (sacred to God).

Leviticus 27:30
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord


This tithe is used for the work of service in the place of worship and also for the welfare of the workers there.

Numbers 18:21-25
21 And, behold, I have given the Levites all the tithes in Israel for an inheritance in return for their service which they serve, the [menial] service of the Tent of Meeting.



2. THE TITHE OF THE FEAST (Deut. 14:22-27).(daddy freeze beer boozing tithe )
Deuteronomy 14:22-23
Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always.



3. THE TITHE FOR THE POOR (Deut. 14:28, 29). (Every 3 years)
This is done once in very 3 years . It is shared among the poor . While the main annual tithe still runs .

Deuteronomy 14:28-29
At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest


The first tithe, the one we trace back to Abra­ham (Gen. 14:18-20), is the sacred tithe, given to the Levites and priests for their service to the temple and the congregation in the Old Testa­ment. This is the tithe we continue to give under the priesthood of Melchizedek in the New Testa­ment. It is the tithe consecrated to God and the furtherance of the gospel and has, therefore, validity for all believers in Christ.

Paul was clear enough .

1 Corinthians 9:13-14
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel


Now some may say Paul didn't accept support . That's no big deal . He didn't accept support in Corinth because of their carnality . But he accepted support from some other churches . Same goes for pastors today . Most pastors serve voluntarily. They don't receive support . Over 9% of pastors in Deeper life ,Redeem ,CEC, winners are serving voluntarily. They have their own jobs . In fact one of the criterial by which you are sent out is to first have a good job . Except only few who may be required to serve full time and they may have to resign from their job. To get support from church . Church tithe is used to pay workers , church rent , maintainance , equipment ,projects , generator fuel. Chair hire etc and other expenditures. The pastor is not the owner of church money . Every ministry has structure by which money is handled . A pastor in redeem cannot dip his hand into church account . There are approvals from head quarters for expenditure. Not what bloggers online post who don't even go to church

We are not giving tithes as commanded under the law . Our tithing dates to Abraham before the law came . And that it why the other kinds of tithes were not emphasized . So daddy freeze only dwell on the feast party which is not abrahamic . And antitithers are jumping up that they have a hero (who is not even a Christian )

You have come again abi?

Does Acts 15 make any sense to you?

If Jesus has fulfilled the obligations of the Law, is anyone compelled to obey these same Laws to be blessed by God?

Where in the Bible did God mandated tithes to be paid monetarily?

Where in the Bible did God instruct Gentiles to tithe?

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Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by akeensbussy(m): 10:09pm On Feb 04, 2018
OkaiCorne:


You have come again abi?

Does Acts 15 make any sense to you?

If Jesus has fulfilled the obligations of the Law, is anyone compelled to obey these same Laws to be blessed by God?

Where in the Bible did God mandated tithes to be paid monetarily?

Where in the Bible did God instruct Gentiles to tithe?


don't waste your MB replying petra1.. he is an assistant pastor in one of these generation church. he can do anything to defend tithing....

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Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by OkaiCorne(m): 11:01pm On Feb 04, 2018
akeensbussy:


don't waste your MB replying petra1.. he is an assistant pastor in one of these generation church. he can do anything to defend tithing....

Interesting...so he's more secured in the monetary tithes of men as opposed to what Jesus preached...

What a pity. And they keep shouting Jesus validates tithing as though they are the Pharisees Jesus was admonishing on tithing...by the way, the folly in quoting Matthew 23 v 23 shows that despite all their years in pastoral school, they couldn't understand that we are no longer under the era of the law considering weightier matters or not...

It baffles me on how someone will preach that Jesus has fulfilled the Law...and yet open the other side of his mouth to preaching that tithing (one of the Law's requirement) is still essential to be blessed by God...so much for confusion

It's people like these that are promoting Judeo-Christianity just like the confusionists in the early church as stated in Acts 15.
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by Nobody: 11:31pm On Feb 04, 2018
petra1:


Tithe belong to God right right from the days of father Abraham who’s principle of faith we follow .

Under the law God still commanded isreal to give tithes and offerings. Which is used for the service of the house of God and welfare and support of workers and ministers there .

Leviticus 27:30.
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord.

Numbers 18:21-25
21 And, behold, I have given the Levites all the tithes in Israel for an inheritance in return for their service which they serve, the [menial] service of the Tent of Meeting.


After God Instructed them on the tithe to him through the levites , he asked the people to give another 10% to the poor every 3 years and another 10% for a love feast to eat and drink . That doesn’t replace the tithe to God. And that is the error and deception of daddy freeze . He didn’t mentioned the title to God and gave the impression that the other 10% for feast and for the poor were the same. .

As much as we are not tithing based on the law. We tithe based on Abrahamic revelation . However the explanation here is to throw light on the misrepresentation by daddy freeze .


THERE WERE THREE DIFFERENT KINDS OF TITHES

There were three different kinds of tithes in the Bible

The three different types are as follows:

1. THE LEVITICAL TITHE (sacred to God).

Leviticus 27:30
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord


This tithe is used for the work of service in the place of worship and also for the welfare of the workers there.

Numbers 18:21-25
21 And, behold, I have given the Levites all the tithes in Israel for an inheritance in return for their service which they serve, the [menial] service of the Tent of Meeting.



2. THE TITHE OF THE FEAST (Deut. 14:22-27).(daddy freeze beer boozing tithe )
Deuteronomy 14:22-23
Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always.



3. THE TITHE FOR THE POOR (Deut. 14:28, 29). (Every 3 years)
This is done once in very 3 years . It is shared among the poor . While the main annual tithe still runs .

Deuteronomy 14:28-29
At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest


The first tithe, the one we trace back to Abra­ham (Gen. 14:18-20), is the sacred tithe, given to the Levites and priests for their service to the temple and the congregation in the Old Testa­ment. This is the tithe we continue to give under the priesthood of Melchizedek in the New Testa­ment. It is the tithe consecrated to God and the furtherance of the gospel and has, therefore, validity for all believers in Christ.

Paul was clear enough .

1 Corinthians 9:13-14
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel


Now some may say Paul didn't accept support . That's no big deal . He didn't accept support in Corinth because of their carnality . But he accepted support from some other churches . Same goes for pastors today . Most pastors serve voluntarily. They don't receive support . Over 9% of pastors in Deeper life ,Redeem ,CEC, winners are serving voluntarily. They have their own jobs . In fact one of the criterial by which you are sent out is to first have a good job . Except only few who may be required to serve full time and they may have to resign from their job. To get support from church . Church tithe is used to pay workers , church rent , maintainance , equipment ,projects , generator fuel. Chair hire etc and other expenditures. The pastor is not the owner of church money . Every ministry has structure by which money is handled . A pastor in redeem cannot dip his hand into church account . There are approvals from head quarters for expenditure. Not what bloggers online post who don't even go to church

We are not giving tithes as commanded under the law . Our tithing dates to Abraham before the law came . And that it why the other kinds of tithes were not emphasized . So daddy freeze only dwell on the feast party which is not abrahamic . And antitithers are jumping up that they have a hero (who is not even a Christian )
May God richly bless you for this. Satan and his agents haven't given up on the battle but I assure you by the grace of God that they will fail woefully.
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by connectikut89(m): 11:52pm On Feb 04, 2018
Petra1 is a dingbat who thinks he's a Bible genius of some sort. Dude regurgitates the same answers on every tithe forum like he were a bot. Only if he knew how foolish and illogical he sounds everytime. I wouldn't blame him though. Dead people don't know when they're dead, only the people around them do. Same thing with stupid people. Tithing in Christianity is an anomaly. You cannot defend it no matter how hard you try, because there's no instance of Jesus paying it or admonishing us to, neither is there a record of the early Christians doing so.

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Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by OkaiCorne(m): 12:26am On Feb 05, 2018
asuustrike2009:

May God richly bless you for this. Satan and his agents haven't given up on the battle but I assure you by the grace of God that they will fail woefully.

Please tell us how you pay your tithes since you insist it is still valid for Christians even after reading Acts 15.

If you're paying your tithes monetarily, please show us in the scriptures where God instructed tithes to be paid with money.

Thank you

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Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by OkaiCorne(m): 12:29am On Feb 05, 2018
connectikut89:
Petra1 is a dingbat who thinks he's a Bible genius of some sort. Dude regurgitates the same answers on every tithe forum like he were a bot. Only if he knew how foolish and illogical he sounds everytime. I wouldn't blame him though. Dead people don't know when they're dead, only the people around them do. Same thing with stupid people. Tithing in Christianity is an anomaly. You cannot defend it no matter how hard you try, because there's no instance of Jesus paying it or admonishing us to, neither is there a record of the early Christians doing so.

The funny thing is how these people keep on defending a Jewish custom as mandatory for Christians to follow.

These guys are like the same set of confusionists that arose in the apostolic church in Acts 15 preaching that Mosaic Laws (tithing inclusive) is mandatory for Christians to be saved.

These guys don't even tithe the way God instructed the Israelites to...

Simply thieves who are twisting the word of God for their personal gain...

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Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by eddy1977(m): 2:52am On Feb 05, 2018
I dont believe in tithing, but i still respect those who do. As long as they dont impose it to me.
We who don't tithe,Should learn to be gracious with our tithing brothers. Calling them names is not Christ like.
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by OkCornel(m): 2:55am On Feb 05, 2018
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Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by OkCornel(m): 2:58am On Feb 05, 2018
eddy1977:
I dont believe in tithing, but i still respect those who do. As long as they dont impose it to me.
We who don't tithe,Should learn to be gracious with our tithing brothers. Calling them names is not Christ like.

Then they should stop preaching people are under the devourer's curse for not "tithing" as well...

They are not in any way better than those who don't tithe...afterall, there are tithers facing challenges in life...and they would never say it's because the devourer is after them...but if it's a non-tither...you know how the hypocritical conclusion that follows.

Give by all means from a cheerful heart as led by the Holy Spirit and not by compulsion to follow certain Laws...

Cheers
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by CaptainStephen(m): 10:22am On Feb 05, 2018
All this one na story jare, I believe in paying tithes.
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by petra1(m): 1:08pm On Feb 05, 2018
connectikut89:
Petra1 is a dingbat who thinks he's a Bible genius of some sort.

Thanks for the compliment

because there's no instance of Jesus paying it or admonishing us to, neither is there a record of the early Christians doing so.

JESUS SAYS TO TITHE
Matthew 23:23
. . . You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by ufidelis: 1:30pm On Feb 05, 2018
petra1:


Tithe belong to God right right from the days of father Abraham who’s principle of faith we follow .

Under the law God still commanded isreal to give tithes and offerings. Which is used for the service of the house of God and welfare and support of workers and ministers there .

Leviticus 27:30.
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord.

Numbers 18:21-25
21 And, behold, I have given the Levites all the tithes in Israel for an inheritance in return for their service which they serve, the [menial] service of the Tent of Meeting.


After God Instructed them on the tithe to him through the levites , he asked the people to give another 10% to the poor every 3 years and another 10% for a love feast to eat and drink . That doesn’t replace the tithe to God. And that is the error and deception of daddy freeze . He didn’t mentioned the title to God and gave the impression that the other 10% for feast and for the poor were the same. .

As much as we are not tithing based on the law. We tithe based on Abrahamic revelation . However the explanation here is to throw light on the misrepresentation by daddy freeze .


THERE WERE THREE DIFFERENT KINDS OF TITHES

There were three different kinds of tithes in the Bible

The three different types are as follows:

1. THE LEVITICAL TITHE (sacred to God).

Leviticus 27:30
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord


This tithe is used for the work of service in the place of worship and also for the welfare of the workers there.

Numbers 18:21-25
21 And, behold, I have given the Levites all the tithes in Israel for an inheritance in return for their service which they serve, the [menial] service of the Tent of Meeting.



2. THE TITHE OF THE FEAST (Deut. 14:22-27).(daddy freeze beer boozing tithe )
Deuteronomy 14:22-23
Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always.



3. THE TITHE FOR THE POOR (Deut. 14:28, 29). (Every 3 years)
This is done once in very 3 years . It is shared among the poor . While the main annual tithe still runs .

Deuteronomy 14:28-29
At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest


The first tithe, the one we trace back to Abra­ham (Gen. 14:18-20), is the sacred tithe, given to the Levites and priests for their service to the temple and the congregation in the Old Testa­ment. This is the tithe we continue to give under the priesthood of Melchizedek in the New Testa­ment. It is the tithe consecrated to God and the furtherance of the gospel and has, therefore, validity for all believers in Christ.

Paul was clear enough .

1 Corinthians 9:13-14
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel


Now some may say Paul didn't accept support . That's no big deal . He didn't accept support in Corinth because of their carnality . But he accepted support from some other churches . Same goes for pastors today . Most pastors serve voluntarily. They don't receive support . Over 9% of pastors in Deeper life ,Redeem ,CEC, winners are serving voluntarily. They have their own jobs . In fact one of the criterial by which you are sent out is to first have a good job . Except only few who may be required to serve full time and they may have to resign from their job. To get support from church . Church tithe is used to pay workers , church rent , maintainance , equipment ,projects , generator fuel. Chair hire etc and other expenditures. The pastor is not the owner of church money . Every ministry has structure by which money is handled . A pastor in redeem cannot dip his hand into church account . There are approvals from head quarters for expenditure. Not what bloggers online post who don't even go to church

We are not giving tithes as commanded under the law . Our tithing dates to Abraham before the law came . And that it why the other kinds of tithes were not emphasized . So daddy freeze only dwell on the feast party which is not abrahamic . And antitithers are jumping up that they have a hero (who is not even a Christian )
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YOU SAID WE TITHE BASED ON ABRAHAM REVELATION. BUT THERE IS NO REVELATION LIKE THAT. WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT ABRAHAM TITHE ONCE IN HIS LIFETIME OF 175 YRS & HE TITHED OUT OF HIS BOOTIES, THINGS HE STOLE FROM VICTIMS OF WAR. HE IS A BAD EXAMPLE.
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YOU FORGOT TO MENTIONED THAT ANYTHING GIVEN TO GOD MUST BE BURNED ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES.
D DIRECTION IN WHICH D SMOKE TRAVELS DETERMINES GOD'S ACCEPTANCE OR REJECTION. I HOPE U DONT STORE UP GOD'S PORTION IN D BANKS COS THAT WOULD AMOUNT TO ROBBING GOD.
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THOSE WHO OPPOSED TITHING CANNOT BE SATANIC COS THEIR POSITION HAS SCRIPTURAL BACKING. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, WHICH IS D FIRST ORGANIZED CHRISTIAN CHURCH AND STILL IN POSSESSION OF ANCIENTS SCRIPTS & KNOWLEDGE HAVE NEVER BEEN PROPONENTS OF TITHES. SO ALSO ARE THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AND CHURCH OF CHRIST. THEY HAVE CARRIED OUT EXTENSIVE STUDY OF SCRIPTURE & DISCOVERED THAT TITHING IS NOT APPLICABLE TO D GENTILE CHRISTIAN. SO THEY LEFT IT IN D TRASH WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
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IS THIS A COINCIDENCE,? ALL D " CHURCHES " WHOSE MINISTERS / OVERSEERS DON'T DEPEND ON CHURCH FINANCES FOR THEIR LIVELIHOOD ARE D ONLY ONES THAT ARE AGAINST TITHING WHILE THOSE WHOSE MINISTERS & OVERSEERS DEPEND ON " CHURCH " FINANCES ARE D ONES CLAMOURING FOR TITHE. SOMETHING IS FISHING AND IT IS REALLY NOT THE FISH,!
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TODAY IN ISRAEL, NOBODY TITHES!
ISRAELITES, TO WHOM D INSTRUCTION WAS GIVEN, DONT TITHE. ACCORDING TO THEM, D LEVITE'S TRIBE NO MORE. EXIST AND SO D TITHING HAS TO STOPPED.
IF ISRAEL TODAY DONT TITHE, WHAT D HELL ARE NIGERIANS STILL DOING WITH TITHE.?
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ACCORDING TO JAMES 2:10 AND GAL 3:10, U EITHER KEEP ALL D MOSAIC LAWS OR KEEP NONE. U DONT KEEP SOME AND DISCARD D OTHERS, IF U DO , U WOULD BE CURSED!
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James 2:10
. "for whosoever shall keep the whole law and yet offend in one point. he is guilty of all".
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gal 3:20.
. " for as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is is everyone that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them".
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Matt 23:23.
. "woe unto you,......for ye pay tithe....and have omitted the weighier matters of the law....these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone".
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SO U SEE. IF YOU MUST TITHE, THEN U CANNOT IGNORE THE OTHER PART OF THE LAW THAT COMMANDS THAT U SHOULD STONE TO DEATH THOSE WHO VIOLATE THE COMMANDMENTS OF THE LAW. INFACT, ALL OTHER SHARIA LAWS GIVEN BY GOD DURING THAT SAME TIME SHOULD GO WITH IT!
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DONT 4 GET, ISRAEL OF TODAY DONT TITHE,!!!!

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Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by OkCornel(m): 3:56pm On Feb 05, 2018
petra1:


Thanks for the compliment



JESUS SAYS TO TITHE
Matthew 23:23
. . . You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

Are you still under the burden of the Law as per Matthew 23 v 23 to keep on tithing? or are you the Pharisee Jesus was admonishing?
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by petra1(m): 5:48pm On Feb 05, 2018
OkCornel:


Are you still under the burden of the Law as per Matthew 23 v 23 to keep on tithing? or are you the Pharisee Jesus was admonishing?

Tithe’s and offering existed before the law . Can you answer this : When you honor you father and mother are you under the burden of the law?
When you give alms to the poor are you under the burden of the law?
When you give free will offering in church are you under the burden of the law ?
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by OkCornel(m): 6:06pm On Feb 05, 2018
petra1:


Tithe’s and offering existed before the law . Can you answer this : When you honor you father and mother are you under the burden of the law?
When you give alms to the poor are you under the burden of the law?
When you give free will offering in church are you under the burden of the law ?

Even animal sacrifice existed before the Law, so what's your point?

Bros, tithing before the Law was not obligatory or mandatory on anyone...we are no longer under the Law hence, tithing does not even apply to Christians...it's a personal thing between you and God...but no one should preach someone is under devourer's curse for not complying...

Besides, you haven't pointed out where God instructed His children to pay tithes monetarily...


TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION...IF I LOVE GOD AND MAN AS JESUS MANDATED, I WOULD HONOR MY FATHER AND MOTHER WITHOUT HAVING TO FEEL THE CONSCIOUSNESS OR BURDEN OF THE LAW TO PROVE MY RIGHTEOUSNESS TO GOD...

Through Love...the Law is fulfilled. However, you do not need to follow the instructions in the Law to prove your love to God... rather, the Holy Spirit and Love is what should lead you...and not the requirements of the Law...
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by petra1(m): 7:04pm On Feb 05, 2018
OkCornel:


Even animal sacrifice existed before the Law

The burnt offerings were Sin offerings and jesus fulfilled that . There was no fulfillment for alms , Tithe’s , or free will offering
so what's your point?

The point is that , there are principles of Gods kingdom in the Old Testament . They are still applicable because they are Kindom principles .

Bros, tithing before the Law was not obligatory or mandatory on anyone...

Just as alms or prayer or fasting . Its a necessity It’s a choice . You do it you’re blessed for it , you don’t do it you miss it’s blessing

we are no longer under the Law hence, tithing does not even apply to Christians..

We not under the law as an institution but there are principles before the law and in the law that are forever . For example the law says you shouldn’t have affection for animals it also says you shouldn’t have Relationdhip with blood relatives . Can you marry your younger sister now since you are not under the law?

.it's a personal thing between you and God...but no one should preach someone is under devourer's curse for not complying...

That’s not the law but a message from God through his prophet

Besides, you haven't pointed out where God instructed His children to pay tithes monetarily...

Tithe’s can be paid in cash or kind even under the law

Luke 18:12
12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I gain.


Was it crop Abraham gave ?

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION...IF I LOVE GOD AND MAN AS JESUS MANDATED
So why don’t you follow Jesus mandate for tithe also

I WOULD HONOR MY FATHER AND MOTHER WITHOUT HAVING TO FEEL THE CONSCIOUSNESS OR BURDEN OF THE LAW TO PROVE MY RIGHTEOUSNESS TO GOD...

Through Love...the Law is fulfilled. However, you do not need to follow the instructions in the Law to prove your love to God... rather, the Holy Spirit and Love is what should lead you...and not the requirements of the Law...

Wrong ‘ without the law you will never have known what is right or wrong that’s what they told you . Read the Bible for yourself

1 John 3:4
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Romans 7:7
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.


Look at the scripture below :

Ephesians 6:2
2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise


Let me ask you a question why would Paul be quoting the law You condemned
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by petra1(m): 4:19am On Feb 06, 2018
ufidelis:

.DONT 4 GET, ISRAEL OF TODAY DONT TITHE,!!!!

Neither do they believe in Jesus . Are you following a backslidden nation or the word of God
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by ufidelis: 6:55am On Feb 06, 2018
JESUS SAYS TO TITHE
[color=#770077]Matthew 23:23
. . . You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.[

.no, ....."the more weightier matters of the Laws" like
1) stoning to death those who violate the law
,2) burning d tithes and offerings to God as clearly practiced from the beginning
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by OkCornel(m): 6:57am On Feb 06, 2018
petra1:


The burnt offerings were Sin offerings and jesus fulfilled that . There was no fulfillment for alms , Tithe’s , or free will offering


The point is that , there are principles of Gods kingdom in the Old Testament . They are still applicable because they are Kindom principles .



Just as alms or prayer or fasting . Its a necessity It’s a choice . You do it you’re blessed for it , you don’t do it you miss it’s blessing


It saddens me that a Pastor like you is preaching that Jesus came to fulfill the Law partially... Let me point you to Galatians 3 v 13-14 incase it is not included in the Bible you are reading

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

We are redeemed from the CURSE OF THE LAW through Jesus and not through tithes...nor by obeying the stringent requirements of the Law.

petra1:

We not under the law as an institution but there are principles before the law and in the law that are forever . For example the law says you shouldn’t have affection for animals it also says you shouldn’t have Relationdhip with blood relatives . Can you marry your younger sister now since you are not under the law?

Of course not... I cannot, I know the consequences even from a medical perspective talk less of even making reference to the Law. However, you also need to consider that these portions of the Law which you are ignoring. Bear in mind, the Law was given as literal instructions to be followed...and not figurative principles to be intepreted as you deem fit

Deutoronomy 22 v 11-12;
11"You shall not wear a material mixed of wool and linen together.
12"You shall make yourself tassels on the four corners of your garment with which you cover yourself.…

Leviticus 19:19
'You are to keep My statutes. You shall not breed together two kinds of your cattle; you shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together.

IF YOU LOVE GOD SO MUCH, ARE YOU ALSO ADHERING TO THESE LAWS such as making tassels on the four corners of your garments? If no, what could be your reason?


petra1:

That’s not the law but a message from God through his prophet



Tithe’s can be paid in cash or kind even under the law

Luke 18:12
12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I gain.


Was it crop Abraham gave ?


So why don’t you follow Jesus mandate for tithe also



Haba bros! Read your Bible in Deuteronomy 14 vs 22-29 and see how God instructed tithes to be paid under the Law. Did God require tithes to be paid in gold and silver?

You made reference to Abraham's tithe payment which was voluntary and a one-off transaction...because he was not under any law or obligation to tithe...neither did God define what should have been tithed.

I also knew you were going to quote Matthew 23 v 23 as your shield of defence in claiming Jesus authorized tithing. First you need to consider that Jesus was addressing the custodians of the LAW i.e. the Pharisees and not His followers. You also need to consider the fact that at that point in time, Jesus had not fulfilled the requirements of the Law at that point in time by dying on the cross... In addition, we are not under the burdens or requirement of the Law in an era of grace...whether the matters of the Law are weightier or not...

petra1:

Wrong ‘ without the law you will never have known what is right or wrong that’s what they told you . Read the Bible for yourself

1 John 3:4
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Romans 7:7
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.


Look at the scripture below :

Ephesians 6:2
2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise


To summarize all you have quoted up there. If you love God and your neighbor as Jesus mandated...you have done something far better than killing yourself with the requirements of the Law...

petra1:



Let me ask you a question why would Paul be quoting the law You condemned

I have condemned nothing...I am re-iterating the fact that Jesus has borne the curse and the obligations of the Law such that I do not need to obey these same things to prove my righteousness to God...

Rather, the perfect work of Jesus on the cross and the LOVE Jesus preached to His followers to imbibe is the basis of the new covenant which has effectively replaced the LAW Jesus fulfilled...






Now I have these questions for you;

1) Where in the Bible did God instruct the Israelites to tithe their money?

2) Where in the Bible was it recorded that Gentiles in the old or new testament tithed? For example, did Job tithe for God to bless him?

3) Did the Gentile Church pay tithes based on what happened in Acts 15?

4) When bad things happens to tithers...was it the devourer at work? When good things happens to non-tithers, does it mean the devourer is on holiday?
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by ufidelis: 7:07am On Feb 06, 2018
JESUS SAYS TO TITHE
[color=#770077]Matthew 23:23
. . . You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.[

.no, ....."the more weightier matters of the Laws" like
1) stoning to death those who violate the law
,2) burning d tithes and offerings to God as clearly practiced from the beginning
petra1:


Neither do they believe in Jesus . Are you following a backslidden nation or the word of God



JESUS SAYS TO TITHE
[color=#770077]Matthew 23:23
. . . You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.[

.no, ....."the more weightier matters of the Laws" like
1) stoning to death those who violate the law
,2) burning d tithes and offerings to God as clearly practiced from the beginning
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by ufidelis: 7:12am On Feb 06, 2018
petra1:


Neither do they believe in Jesus . Are you following a backslidden nation or the word of God
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which part of the scripture is d word of God?
you forgot that Jesus is d word of God.
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the Levite are a tribe of people who no more exist. No levite, no tithe
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by petra1(m): 7:30am On Feb 06, 2018
ufidelis:

the Levite are a tribe of people who no more exist.

Wrong , every tribe in Isreal exists .

No levite, no tithe

Wrong! was there levites when Abraham and Jacob tithed? . The issue about tithe is not synonymous with levites but rather “HIGH PRIESTS . As long as there’s is high priest tithes and offering will be applicable . Christ is our high priest forever . Do tithes and offering is forever
Re: Tithes: Revealing The Lies!!! by OkCornel(m): 7:50am On Feb 06, 2018
petra1:


Wrong , every tribe in Isreal exists .



Wrong! was there levites when Abraham and Jacob tithed? . The issue about tithe is not synonymous with levites but rather “HIGH PRIESTS . As long as there’s is high priest tithes and offering will be applicable . Christ is our high priest forever . Do tithes and offering is forever

1) Did Jesus collect tithes from His followers?

2) Did the Apostles preach tithing is mandatory to access God's blessings? Did they collect tithes from the early church congregants?

3) How are Nigerian Pastors automatically the "Levites without inheritance" entitled to collect tithes if the Apostles or Jesus never did such?

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