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What are your reasons for believing in god?

Because the universe is too complex to be a mistake

Nygma:
Because the universe is too complex to be a mistake

But isn't god to complex to be a mistake as well

urahara:
But isn't god to complex to be a mistake as well

I remotely believe there's something yet, the conventional definition of God doesn't fit.

Nygma:
Because the universe is too complex to be a mistake

how simple does a universe have to be to be regarded as a "mistake"?

urahara:
But isn't god to complex to be a mistake as well

God is an ideology developed by men

hopefulLandlord:
how simple does a universe have to be to be regarded as a "mistake"?

There is but one universe
Look around you or even into yourself,the fact that you exist cannot be a mistake.
I believe there is a God that created this universe but not the one them Christians are talking about

Nygma:
There is but one universe
Look around you or even into yourself,the fact that you exist cannot be a mistake.
I believe there is a God that created this universe but not the one them Christians are talking about

you didn't answer my question sir

If there's only one, what makes you conclude its designed if you have no idea what an undesigned one would/should look like?

I just have the feeling that there is a God,but not the one religion portrayed,the universe is just at the perfect place ,why do we even exist self,we are here for a reason and I still have a feeling that an advanced colony has existed before us.

urahara:
What are your reasons for believing in god?

What are your reasons for not believing in GOD?

hopefulLandlord:
you didn't answer my question sir

If there's only one, what makes you conclude its designed if you have no idea what an undesigned one would/should look like?

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Best way to hook them

hopefulLandlord:
you didn't answer my question sir

If there's only one, what makes you conclude its designed if you have no idea what an undesigned one would/should look like?

Point of correction,there is only one universe and I am proof that it was designed

Nygma:
Point of correction,there is only one universe and I am proof that it was designed

How are you proof it was designed? what would you have looked like if the universe isn't designed?

Nygma:
Point of correction,there is only one universe and I am proof that it was designed

Like serious? One universe? Have you have of multiverse?

you making a claim that ya existence connotes design but what can you say about earthquake, tsunamis and etc - do these point to design?

Anyways, can you pls tell us how an undesigned universe looks like?

hopefulLandlord:
How are you proof it was designed? what would you have looked like if the universe isn't designed?

The processes in life are more than enough examples

Nygma:
The processes in life are more than enough examples

. Like earthquake, tsunamis, virions, radiation,?

adepeter2027:
Like serious? One universe? Have you have of multiverse?

you making a claim that ya existence connotes design but what can you say about earthquake, tsunamis and etc - do these point to design?

Anyways, can you pls tell us how an undesigned universe looks like?

There is nothing like a multiverse. It's someones imagination (and you have bought into it) yet you claim the religious worship an imagination

Multiverse hypothesis is science fiction. Stop throwing it around.

butterflyl1on:
There is nothing like a multiverse. It's someones imagination (and you have bought into it) yet you claim the religious worship an imagination

Multiverse hypothesis is science fiction. Stop throwing it around.

Chai

I weak

hopefulLandlord:
you didn't answer my question sir

If there's only one, what makes you conclude its designed if you have no idea what an undesigned one would/should look like?

What makes you conclude this one WASN'T designed if you have no idea what a designed universe looks like and cannot even recognise one if it sits in front of you eating akara?

You simply argue for lack of anything Intelligent to say. For you it's any argument even when your own argument can be turned on its head.

adepeter2027:
Chai

I weak

If you like grow weaker. The multiverse HYPOTHESIS is simply a HYPOTHESIS. It is no scientific fact. It is science fiction as it CANNOT AND WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO BE PROVEN.

let that sink in.

adepeter2027:
. Like earthquake, tsunamis, virions, radiation,?

Lemme give your an example
Your phone was made in a factory and it should be perfect right?
But over sometime it begins to develop faults such reduced battery capacity,at times the screen may get scratched. That is how the universe is too

butterflyl1on:
If you like grow weaker. The multiverse HYPOTHESIS is simply a HYPOTHESIS. It is no scientific fact. It is science fiction as it CANNOT AND WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO BE PROVEN.

let that sink in.

Correct as hell

butterflyl1on:
If you like grow weaker. The multiverse HYPOTHESIS is simply a HYPOTHESIS. It is no scientific fact. It is science fiction as it CANNOT AND WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO BE PROVEN.

let that sink in.

Is that all or Still remaining?

adepeter2027:
Still remaining?

The fact that you are countering a credible argument with science fiction and an assumption being thrown around by some scientists just to sound credible is simply pathetic.

As far as science knows and can conclusively declare, there is ONLY ONE OBSERVABLE UNVIVERSE AND WE ARE IN THAT OBSERVABLE UNIVERSE.

science is based on observable evidence and the multiverse hypothesis is an imaginary explanation which is an attempt to explain why and how our observable universe is so very well fine tuned.

Of course the way our universe works so well is still a huge mystery to science buffs so being at their wits end they now decided to IMAGINE an explanation and not OBSERVE an explanation. I hope you can get the difference.

Nygma:
Lemme give your an example
Your phone was made in a factory and it should be perfect right?

But over sometime it begins to develop faults such reduced battery capacity,at times the screen may get scratched. That is how the universe is too

But the manufacturers never claimed to be a perfect designer and God. Do they?

adepeter2027:
But the manufacturers never claimed to be a perfect designer and God. Do they?

What he made was perfect but it has been corrupted by beings which in turn causes the natural disasters

butterflyl1on:
The fact that you are countering a credible argument with science fiction and an assumption being thrown around by some scientists just to sound credible is simply pathetic.

As far as science knows and can conclusively declare, there is ONLY ONE OBSERVABLE UNVIVERSE AND WE ARE IN THAT OBSERVABLE UNIVERSE.

science is based on observable evidence and the multiverse hypothesis is an imaginary explanation which is an attempt to explain why and how our observable universe is so very well fine tuned.

Of course the way our universe works so well is still a huge mystery to science buffs so being at their wits end they now decided to IMAGINE an explanation and not OBSERVE an explanation. I hope you can get the difference.

still remaining?

adepeter2027:
. Like earthquake, tsunamis, virions, radiation,?

I believe I have touched on earthquakes and tsunamis before on nairaland so won't bother with those.

Regarding virions I don't think you are asking the right question.

You should rather be concerned about the origin of virions and viruses (which incidentally ARE ALIVE) . If this universe was not DELIBERATELY DESIGNED the way it is how can you explain the source of the life in viruses and why virions would exist specifically because of viruses?

Nygma:
What he made was perfect but it has been corrupted by beings which in turn causes the natural disasters

so you're a deist that thinks the creator designed a perfect universe only for other beings to cause natural disaster?

did they claim to be perfect designer or God?

Nygma:
What he made was perfect but it has been corrupted by beings which in turn causes the natural disasters

this furthers attest that God isn't a perfect designer.

Adepeter I also thank God for radiation. You know why? If radiation did not exist (be it bad) we would not have been able to apply them for good uses in medicine, agriculture, sterilisation and irradiation, industry and agriculture and our homes.

It is because it was there to begin with that made us realise its benefits to humanity as well. Frankly speaking, radiation has saved far more lives than taken them.

That nigga has nothing sensible to say so he resorts to being intentionally irrational.