₦airaland Forum

Mujtahida:
But the goodjoe I hope you know that with the current trend and the way football is going players who do not have 'blistering pace' would be one out of a thousand ooo cos the overwhelming majority would have blistering pace. One time Fabregas complained that only athletes can survive today's football. Hope you don read that book.

komekn:
Can you specifically tell me where I HYPED Diabate.

Otherwise it means you have spoken q complete untruth and should honorably apologise.

Mujtahida:
Nobody knows it all. Freedom must be given to all to state even nonsensical ideas. Yes! That's their privilege as human beings and no one has the right to stamp on their persons in the name of 'we must only make sensible statements backed with facts and figures(yes because there's a way a man's opinion or viewpoint is attacked and he feels it is himself that is being attacked). You are a science oriented guy. Isn't hypothesis an opinion? Some hypothesis are right, some are wrong. In the face of wrong opinions correction is what is needed. But to say that only correct
ideas are welcome here is to my mind setting up a creed which will make us attack with religious ferocity those who have ideas and opinions that seem incorrect to us
Are we going to have only white here and no black? Even a regime of sensible ideas backed with facts and figures is abhorrent to my soul.

Even if one cannot stomach 'nonsensical' opinions (mind you what is nonsensical to you might be sensible to another person just as it is often said that one man's rebel is another man's freedom fighter) then one can as well challenge it but how we challenge bollocks matters. It is not until a man is told 'wakaa' that he'd feel insulted

Iheanacho is not a god. I heartily support him. In fact I get pricked when he's criticised but I do not subscribe to our creating a gang mentality where everybody must have the same opinion. That is fundamentalism, that is totalitarianism, that is how terrorism begins. Even in the face of facts people are entitled to their opinions because interpretation of facts differ from person to person. Our fingerprints differ, our brain patterns differ, our voices differ. So also our views and opinions. Let's loosen our grip on the need to be right and be seen as right to the extent that we cannot tolerate other people's opinions.

And its not correct to say that those who queried Sir Icon4s' intervention are people who hate Nacho. I understand what Icon4s said but at the same time the undercurrent sounded like he was giving approval to the way liedetector was hounded.


We should not say welcome to people when we cannot welcome them in totality particularly since this is a faceless impersonal online forum. What sort of welcome is this: I welcome you but I do not welcome your absurd opinions. If there's no liberty for them to state their opinions whether backed by facts and figures or not how can we discuss, how can those with wrong ideas be corrected? Congo4ka is one weird guy but I like the way he was corrected yesterday. But you will note that others still said they liked him. That's how life is.

We've all been guilty of attacking each other here but I have soft spot for newcomers. They should be handled with more sensitivity. Only God knows the many number of persons who can richly contribute to this thread that we have chased away. Would it not be better if sometimes we ask people the reason for their 'absurd' opinions and try and engage them?

And even if an opinion is wrong it won't hurt if we endeavour to correct it with the patience and the wisdom of those 'who know'. Elyte89 reaction is typical. He doesn't hate Nacho. He hates the sacred opinions, viewpoints and facts surrounding Nacho and he's decided to desacralize those ideas and facts just to infuriate those who are intolerably Pro Nacho. In a sense elyte89 wants to save Nacho and free him from the consequences of dangerous love.

I should not be misinterpreted as saying that I approve absurd ideas. What I am saying is that we cannot dictate to people the ideas and opinions they should state. I state my own. That's my freedom. You are permitted to disagree, you are permitted to interrogate my opinions, to challenge them. You are even permitted to state your own contrary views. That's your freedom. Igbos have a beautiful proverb which underlies their republican nature: let the Eagle perch, let the vulture (note that the vulture is a clumsy, gruffy, ugly, absurd looking bird) also perch. The one that says taaaa to the other, let his wings be broken.

I am pro Nacho but anti - siege mentality. I will end by giving this short anecdote which ends with one of my favourite quotes: Jean Jacques Rousseau was writing dangerous books, espousing ideas that threatened government, the social order and many cultural norms in 17 century France. He was wanted by the government. All over France he was a wanted man. He had no where to run to. Finally he decided to run to Voltaire. Upon knocking the door Voltaire welcomed him with the following words which have become immortal: I do not approve of the things you say but I will defend to my death your right to say it.

Cheers and love to you all.

suaveman:
Hello, I'm a proud member of the notorious silent crew. You People should keep up the good work that you do on here. BTW I also want a copy of that book sir. Email: Outstanding4eva.fola@gmail.com. Thanks in advance

Mujtahida:
Nobody knows it all. Freedom must be given to all to state even nonsensical ideas. Yes! That's their privilege as human beings and no one has the right to stamp on their persons in the name of 'we must only make sensible statements backed with facts and figures(yes because there's a way a man's opinion or viewpoint is attacked and he feels it is himself that is being attacked). You are a science oriented guy. Isn't hypothesis an opinion? Some hypothesis are right, some are wrong. In the face of wrong opinions correction is what is needed. But to say that only correct
ideas are welcome here is to my mind setting up a creed which will make us attack with religious ferocity those who have ideas and opinions that seem incorrect to us
Are we going to have only white here and no black? Even a regime of sensible ideas backed with facts and figures is abhorrent to my soul.

Even if one cannot stomach 'nonsensical' opinions (mind you what is nonsensical to you might be sensible to another person just as it is often said that one man's rebel is another man's freedom fighter) then one can as well challenge it but how we challenge bollocks matters. It is not until a man is told 'wakaa' that he'd feel insulted

Iheanacho is not a god. I heartily support him. In fact I get pricked when he's criticised but I do not subscribe to our creating a gang mentality where everybody must have the same opinion. That is fundamentalism, that is totalitarianism, that is how terrorism begins. Even in the face of facts people are entitled to their opinions because interpretation of facts differ from person to person. Our fingerprints differ, our brain patterns differ, our voices differ. So also our views and opinions. Let's loosen our grip on the need to be right and be seen as right to the extent that we cannot tolerate other people's opinions.

And its not correct to say that those who queried Sir Icon4s' intervention are people who hate Nacho. I understand what Icon4s said but at the same time the undercurrent sounded like he was giving approval to the way liedetector was hounded.


We should not say welcome to people when we cannot welcome them in totality particularly since this is a faceless impersonal online forum. What sort of welcome is this: I welcome you but I do not welcome your absurd opinions. If there's no liberty for them to state their opinions whether backed by facts and figures or not how can we discuss, how can those with wrong ideas be corrected? Congo4ka is one weird guy but I like the way he was corrected yesterday. But you will note that others still said they liked him. That's how life is.

We've all been guilty of attacking each other here but I have soft spot for newcomers. They should be handled with more sensitivity. Only God knows the many number of persons who can richly contribute to this thread that we have chased away. Would it not be better if sometimes we ask people the reason for their 'absurd' opinions and try and engage them?

And even if an opinion is wrong it won't hurt if we endeavour to correct it with the patience and the wisdom of those 'who know'. Elyte89 reaction is typical. He doesn't hate Nacho. He hates the sacred opinions, viewpoints and facts surrounding Nacho and he's decided to desacralize those ideas and facts just to infuriate those who are intolerably Pro Nacho. In a sense elyte89 wants to save Nacho and free him from the consequences of dangerous love.

I should not be misinterpreted as saying that I approve absurd ideas. What I am saying is that we cannot dictate to people the ideas and opinions they should state. I state my own. That's my freedom. You are permitted to disagree, you are permitted to interrogate my opinions, to challenge them. You are even permitted to state your own contrary views. That's your freedom. Igbos have a beautiful proverb which underlies their republican nature: let the Eagle perch, let the vulture (note that the vulture is a clumsy, gruffy, ugly, absurd looking bird) also perch. The one that says taaaa to the other, let his wings be broken.

I am pro Nacho but anti - siege mentality. I will end by giving this short anecdote which ends with one of my favourite quotes: Jean Jacques Rousseau was writing dangerous books, espousing ideas that threatened government, the social order and many cultural norms in 17 century France. He was wanted by the government. All over France he was a wanted man. He had no where to run to. Finally he decided to run to Voltaire. Upon knocking the door Voltaire welcomed him with the following words which have become immortal: I do not approve of the things you say but I will defend to my death your right to say it.

Cheers and love to you all.

M7even:
sir this is raw intelligence from your speech. am deeply moved at how well you seemed to have struck the right chords. please, are you a lawyer or a social scientist.

Icon4s:
This 2002 Jerseys are Nigeria's worst. The color is off, the Jersey numbers and names are so unreadable and they don't have fitting. The material for the shirts sef is enough for a complete track suit.

tbaba1234:
The 5 goalies..

Mujtahida:
Hahahaha hahahaha. Soldier stand at ease

Kog45:
see if Amaju catch you hee

TheGoodJoe:
This time is not about competition but playing under a system that will develop him at a fast rate to a top quality player. Build his rep and propel him to play on some of the highest stages.

Puel seems like a timid negative coach and I doubt he can create the right environment for Nacho to reach his potentials.

soetanoreoluwa:
Being in such situation before only had only nights to myself and I kept doing overnight reading... Lol took me like three night for me to caught up...

Just need to ask myself if there is an exam on nairaland soonest...
Congrats bro

TheSuperNerd:
Wow....

Humility017:
I don't mind Henry be added as the 3ed striker...being that musa gonna likely make the team....
so Henry can be registered as the 3rd striker coupled wit his abilities to play as a winger too....

the CF....should be ighalo, nancho and Henry....
while Moses, Simon, iwobi, Musa,Etebo can come in as wingers

Kog45:
Oh my man you damn funny,not really,the 45 was culled from my first car plate number(045)

I thank God i did not reduced my age cos it paved way for me to be picked among my colleagues for a course in abroad.

I remain one of the very few Nigerians that never tampered with their age.

In my former office amongst my colleagues am the youngest with real age but officially oldest,a lot of them have their age supported with court affidavits.

This is one of the reason i always go against those who always criticising our players based on age cos many are guilty.

forgiveness:
It means we are going to the world Cup with 1 striker.

Icon4s:
Pinnick and his wife.

Now I know why he chose that Flamboyant Jersey.

komekn:
It's an issue that has been going on from donkeys ago possibly before we got independence.

When my Father decided to stone me back to Warri i was the youngest in my class in high school but the oldest officially too.

Age creation is across every facet of life in Nigeria, I know guys who got married and discovered too late thier wives where older than them. Whaaaaten u go do naa pikin don enter. Also it's not a biblical ground for divorce.

Unfortunately the problem is exasperated by European clubs who put huge value on age. So our guys have no other choice than to be creative.

Cutting 2,3 or more years is the difference between abject poverty or living large. What will you do So lets not be too quick to judge.

I know players from across Africa who are living large now but have shaved off 7/8 years from thier ages. It's not just in Nigeria please. But have no doubt the clubs know but take the view as long as thier is money to be made if you can prove it then it's true. No matter what anybody says.

tbaba1234:
Under 15 days

Wonder where these other boys are...

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14502748_1073080512806979_8610004450776176979_n.jpg?oh=03abbb3c3f124d45489332228c2b6ccf&oe=5B260D62

zicky:
yea Joel Obi might be injury pron but he's always back to the first eleven whenever he returns, that's quality no be one ojo

TheGoodJoe:
You are just twisting facts to suit your narrative. The point was not just about Blistering pace but you saying Diabate has the advantage because of his pace.

I clearly pointed out to you that pace is not the key to success. So I wonder the long epistle you are writing there.

It takes different gifts to make a quality player. It depends on who best uses the combination of his talents that makes the quality.

Hinging on just speed is hiding from the truth.

Neymar with less intelligence and skills, will not be the phenomenon he is. So did Finidi and Beckham not rely on pace to become legends.

Iheanacho is fast. He may not be a speed demon but he has other things ticking for him. From his intelligent passing, breath taking skills, ability to shoot from long range, Good in crossing, lethal finishing, mobility in the box etc.

So to give someone the edge because of pace is hiding from the truth.

Finito.

komekn:
It's an issue that has been going on from donkeys ago possibly before we got independence.

When my Father decided to stone me back to Warri i was the youngest in my class in high school but the oldest officially too.

Age creation is across every facet of life in Nigeria, I know guys who got married and discovered too late thier wives where older than them. Whaaaaten u go do naa pikin don enter. Also it's not a biblical ground for divorce.

Unfortunately the problem is exasperated by European clubs who put huge value on age. So our guys have no other choice than to be creative.

Cutting 2,3 or more years is the difference between abject poverty or living large. What will you do So lets not be too quick to judge.

I know players from across Africa who are living large now but have shaved off 7/8 years from thier ages. It's not just in Nigeria please. But have no doubt the clubs know but take the view as long as thier is money to be made if you can prove it then it's true. No matter what anybody says.

jihday:
please are you a sport journo or something related?

tbaba1234:
Invitations for March friendlies have been sent out.. Las Palmas confirm Etebo's invite.