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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon79(m): 2:37pm On Feb 13, 2018
FIXED:

A: Uruguay Egypt
B: Spain Morocco (Portugal and CR7 are going home early)
C: France Peru
D: Argentina, Nigeria
E. Brazil, Switzerland
F: Germany, Mexico
G: Belgium, England
H: Senegal Columbia

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tbaba1234:
My predictions for the WC groups (My African bias is evident)

A: Uruguay Egypt
B: Portugal Morocco (Spain knocked out, first shock)
C: France Peru
D: Nigeria, Croatia
E. Brazil, Switzerland
F: Germany, Mexico
G: Belgium, England
H: Senegal Columbia
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 2:41pm On Feb 13, 2018
Icon79:
FIXED:

A: Uruguay Egypt
B: Spain Morocco (Portugal and CR7 are going home early)
C: France Peru
D: Argentina, Nigeria
E. Brazil, Switzerland
F: Germany, Mexico
G: Belgium, England
H: Senegal Columbia

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lol...hater

So Portugal will go home early because of CR7, but your Messi and his weak Argentina will progress? grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon79(m): 2:42pm On Feb 13, 2018
We shouldn't speak ill of the dead but Keshi lost a big opportunity to qualify us for the WC quarter finals in 2014. The draw was massively on our side. We've never had such an easy draw at the world cup, but he totally bungled and mismanaged the situation completely. And that's all I gotta say for now.


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Humility017:
keshi team had the opportunity to move beyond the round of 16....but the team lack the quality and motivation....

keshi never helped in his players selection...players imoh Ezekiel,Kenneth otigba, hope akpan etc were ignored
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 2:44pm On Feb 13, 2018
soetanoreoluwa:
We would have done better
our best players going to that world cup(including the ones that were not even invited) was made up of a totally out of form and appaling Mikel Obi, Moses who would have been a better option as a ball boy and Osaze and Onazi, both weren't exactly world beaters going into that tournament. Yet Keshi managed to navigate the group stages against a Bosnian team that had the highest goalscorer during the qualifiers and was one of the first teams to qualify for the mundial and yet we do not give him the salutations that are unarguably due to him. I mean who knew Babatunde before then? What is even the assurance that Imoh Ezekiel would have kicked the ball even once? We played a 4-2-3-1, our starting forward players were Musa, Osaze, Babatunde and Emenike and the first choice off the bench was easily VicMo, so what difference would Imoh Ezekiel make?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon79(m): 2:44pm On Feb 13, 2018
I grant you that the Argies are defensively weak and aging, but they would always find a way. You'll always find a way to win when you have Messi on your side grin


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safarigirl:
lol...hater

So Portugal will go home early because of CR7, but your Messi and his weak Argentina will progress? grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 2:45pm On Feb 13, 2018
Icon79:
We shouldn't speak ill of the dead but Keshi lost a big opportunity to qualify us for the WC quarter finals in 2014. The draw was massively on our side. We've never had such an easy draw at the world cup, but he totally bungled and mismanaged the situation completely. And that's all I gotta say for now.


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I am sure that French team was in no way inferior to the Swedish and English team that bundled us out of the 2002 WC, neither were they inferior to the Denmark team that disgraced us in 98. Oh, not to forget that it was South Korea and Greece that eliminated us from the 2010 edition
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon79(m): 2:47pm On Feb 13, 2018
My broad, help me ask them o shocked


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Humility017:
which decent game has uchebo? you mean the goal against Scotland...?
apart from that goal...he played trash that day....

[b]how he made the team over imoh Ezekiel[/b]who despite being a second striker for his team in Belgium scored 12 goals and uchebo manage to get 5 for club de brugg
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 2:51pm On Feb 13, 2018
Mickael2:
Keita is very very comfortable playing as a DMF. And except you think Ndidi is going to come and send Henderson to the bench, I dont know what your point is.
Okay oh if you say so
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon79(m):
Well, I can make a case about Sweden and England but fair enough; however, I still believe that we had a good chance of beating that French team. A technically astute coach with a good bench would've won that game easily. However, Keshi (whom I have much respect for) decided to his offer his bench up to the highest bidder! It was just like Japan-Korea 2002 all over again ($10,000 per junk player). For that Keshi's team, it was like after the first eleven, the other slots were up for grabs and they all went to the highest bidders: Reuben Gabriel, Michael Uchebo, Shola Ameobi, Uche Nwofor, Kunle Odunlami, Chigozie Agbim etc.


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Mickael2:
I am sure that French team was in no way inferior to the Swedish and English team that bundled us out of the 2002 WC, neither were they inferior to the Denmark team that disgraced us in 98. Oh, not to forget that it was South Korea and Greece that eliminated us from the 2010 edition
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 2:53pm On Feb 13, 2018
tbaba1234:
I never said one is getter better education. I was not comparing.

I said Maduka is getting the best education in the german system. And Rohr is biased towards the germans.

I have no idea on Udoh.
Which is very bad and isn't exactly far from one of Keshi's sins, but since it is Rohr who is favouring one side, I guess it's okay
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m):
Kog45:
My man you are right but it seems as a fan we always let emotions reign supremely in our analysis and this should stop so that we can learn more here.

I will not deceive you we are not having it good in goalkeeping department,that's the truth cos a situation we are banking on a keeper keeping in regional league equivalent of division four for WC meaning we are in serious crisis.

Uzoho too is not finding it funny but we keep on rating him with performance in division three and now Uzoho is the fourth keeper in Deportivo though his 45 minutes against Argentina waa awesome,hope next friendly we see more of him.

Alampasu still number three in his club,not really good for his development just having training with main team meaning is match rusty.

Maduka from nowhere with no clear performance came into reckoning and guys believe he has what it takes to mann eagles post but forgetting this guy is keeping in junior regional league equivalent of division 4.

Ezenwa an home based keeper who some believe is not the best in local league but always find his way to national team but had a good WC qualifier exvept Algeria match,aso his performance against Angola at CHAN was damn good but till now Rohr doesn't truth him

Ajiboye another home based not rated by Rohr even Ezenwa the number one was not trusted by the same man.He had a good performance at CHAN especially against Sudan but can we trust him after seeing him against Morocco.

Now Akpeyi who Rohr rate highly but till today has not able to satisfy Rohr and his grace continue if truly he is on the list for March friendly.

Enyeama not coming back and if he does can we really trust him again cos out of active football for more than six months due to injury and walking straight to starting lineup might be disastrous just like what happened to Rufai at France 98.

Ikeme should have been the solution but health issue did not let us enjoy a good keeper.

Goalkeeping issue just too dicey and Rohr must made up his mind on time cos WC is approaching.
Firstly, Enyeama is not just coming back from injury and walking into the line up. He has since(quite a while) recovered and since resumed training. He had a very descent return to action even stopping a penalty.

You are very right about people's emotions taking over in terms of the clamor for Uzoho, Alampasu and Maduka. The Goalkeeping department for the World Cup is not for rookies.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 3:33pm On Feb 13, 2018
Mickael2:
Which is very bad and isn't exactly far from one of Keshi's sins, but since it is Rohr who is favouring one side, I guess it's okay
Germany has an excellent youth development structure. The best in the world IMO. His bias is not exactly misplaced. He is german afterall.

Germany went to the confederation cup with a brand new team and won it
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:34pm On Feb 13, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Honestly, I saw this coming but I just didn't want to admit it... angry
Chief Icon4s did hint that Akpeyi is still in the picture and I too gave him just little mention not because I rate him but because I was trying to just see things from Rohr's angle.

Honestly, Rohr's mind is his... Maybe Sir Tbaba1234 can update his "battle of the goalies" little documentary if Akpeyi's invitation is indeed confirmed. Lol

This is just getting more interesting.
When I said goalkeepers selection is not like outfield player selection. Now you are beginning to understand.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 3:35pm On Feb 13, 2018
Icon4s:
Firstly, Enyeama is not just coming back from injury and walking into the line up. He has since(quite a while) recovered and since resumed training. He had a very descent return to action even stopping a penalty.

You are very right about people's emotions taking over in terms of the clamor for Uzoho, Alampasu and Maduka. The Goalkeeping department for the World Cup is not for rookies.
Akpeyi is not a rookie but he shakes like one sometimes.

Anyway, i expect everyone will be tested in the 2 games against Poland and Serbia.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:38pm On Feb 13, 2018
tbaba1234:
Akpeyi is not a rookie but he shakes like one sometimes.

Anyway, i expect everyone will be tested in the 2 games against Poland and Serbia.
Everyone cannot be tested. Seems unfair, but that is the reality.

Friendlies are not only for testing it is for also to boost the confidence of the selected players (keepers inclusive). The truth is not all the 5 or 6 goalies would be tested in those friendlies. Some may be dropped without the test from the friendlies.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:41pm On Feb 13, 2018
tbaba1234:
Akpeyi is not a rookie but he shakes like one sometimes.

Anyway, i expect everyone will be tested in the 2 games against Poland and Serbia.
On Akpeyi's shaking, what are we paying the keeper trainers and team psychologist for.

Rohr rates Akpeyi highly. He is an experienced coach. Let's just believe he knows what he is doing.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 3:44pm On Feb 13, 2018
Icon4s:
Everyone cannot be tested. Seems unfair, but that is the reality.

Friendlies are not only for testing it is for also to boost the confidence of the selected players (keepers inclusive). The truth is not all the 5 or 6 goalies would be tested in those friendlies. Some may be dropped without the test from the friendlies.
Personally, i only want to see Ezenwa and Uzoho in the friendlies. The others can help with training.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 3:45pm On Feb 13, 2018
Icon4s:
On Akpeyi's shaking, what are we paying the keeper trainers and team psychologist for.

Rohr rates Akpeyi highly. He is an experienced coach. Let's just believe he knows what he is doing.
I do not think, he rates Akpeyi highly. He has never spoken about him in any of his interviews.

He has praised Ezenwa and Uzoho but never Akpeyi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:46pm On Feb 13, 2018
tbaba1234:
Personally, i only want to see Ezenwa and Uzoho in the friendlies. The others can help with training.
You get the picture. Those two are ahead.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:47pm On Feb 13, 2018
tbaba1234:
I do not think, he rates Akpeyi highly. He has never spoken about him in any of his interviews.

He has praised Ezenwa and Uzoho but never Akpeyi.
He at least rates Akpeyi higher than Ajiboye and Alampasu. That is my point.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 3:51pm On Feb 13, 2018
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 3:52pm On Feb 13, 2018
Icon4s:
He at least rates Akpeyi higher than Ajiboye and Alampasu. That is my point.
Agreed.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:59pm On Feb 13, 2018
andrew444:
John Fashanu 2 caps for england and Ugo ehiogu 4 caps,how is that great? I dont need to argue with someone who consider failure as a success,if they are good enough they will make many appearance for england,Gabby Agbonlahor and fash did not even go to a major competition with england you are here saying nonsense,so any player that play 2 or 4 games for england are great in your eyes,you just cant hide your mediocre,its in you.

None of this player you mentioned was called up for an European championship or a world cup,where is agbonlahor for the past 5 years? and you call that succes? someone that cannot make aston villa team anymore.

Dont support iwobi oo,lol support seyi ojo you never mentioned iwobi since till now that you are over pained.

What has your darling liverpool won for the past 10 years? no premier league no fa cup,lol, i guess that is the reason suarez masherano and recently coutiho ended up at barca

Because you are a Liverpool fan does not mean any player there is good,even your club captain henderson is crap,just because he is english thats why he is favored

The only way your seyi ojo can make super eagles maybe he will be a goal keeper.

Seyi ojo is a winger,henry onyekuru is a winger who can also play as a striker,iwobi is a winger and an Attacking Midfielder,you dont even know about your seyi ojo,Lol,thats why a guy here call you old man, or you want him to contest for the defense position,Lol

Go sleep for bush,i cannot be talking to someone who considered 2 caps for england and 4 caps as great,LOW IQ

Mind you if iwobi plays for england his will have about 7 appearance now in this past 2 years,not those ones that you call great that no one has up to 5 caps,lol SHAME ON YOU,OLD MAN THINKING,i hope you are not 90 years,over and out
According to you if you are capped once or never by your national team, you are not great? grin

According to your theory of greatness, is Uche Nwofor great because he had ten caps for SE?

Is Reuben Gabriel great because he had 12 caps for SE? grin

Is Ejike Uzeonyi great because he had 21 caps for SE?. grin

Is Shola Ameobi very great because he had been capped 10 times by the SE? grin

Is Michael Uchebo Super great because he played 10 times for Nigeria? grin

So, if you a player has few caps and didn't go to a major tournament, he is not good enough? shocked grin


Is Mikel Arteta successful or not?

Is Maxwell of PSG successful or not?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 4:08pm On Feb 13, 2018
Kog45:
Are you saying is better to be keeping in youth team than be in main squad even as third keeper slug it out daily in training with number one keeper.

I don't think age is the issue cos as a professional if you are ready to go age cannot disturb you,a good coach would throw you in e.g De Gea,Courtious etc
Maduka Okoye has trained severally with his club's main team and

Many of the best keepers in the world, worked their way up gradually. From youth teams before getting a chance in the first team.

At 18 years, he is not in a bad place.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon79(m): 4:12pm On Feb 13, 2018
KPOM!

In fact, anything that would keep Akpeyi far away from our first 11 is fine by me grin


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tbaba1234:
Personally, i only want to see Ezenwa and Uzoho in the friendlies. The others can help with training.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 4:14pm On Feb 13, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Honestly, I saw this coming but I just didn't want to admit it... angry
Chief Icon4s did hint that Akpeyi is still in the picture and I too gave him just little mention not because I rate him but because I was trying to just see things from Rohr's angle.

Honestly, Rohr's mind is his... Maybe Sir Tbaba1234 can update his "battle of the goalies" little documentary if Akpeyi's invitation is indeed confirmed. Lol

This is just getting more interesting.
Akpeyi was in the Battle of the goalies list..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by asha80(m): 4:20pm On Feb 13, 2018
anyone has any idea why awaziem has not been playing for nantes recently?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 4:33pm On Feb 13, 2018
komekn:
Consider the bold and I ask you one question ❓ how tall is Sana how tall is KC huh huh huh

I could tell you more about Leicester beyond what you read in the newspapers.

Before you go to a club you do your homework you don't just look at the £££ and ask how you will fit in and progress.

Don't be decieved by diplomatic speak in the public domain. If a coach wants you to stay you will it's as simple as that, do not be decieved.
Ignorance is a disease. To every rule there is an exception. Sane in this case is the exception here. I know that you might want to argue that for Sane to be an exception, will mean that he is an exceptional player. So my question to you is this;

is Sane better than Eto or Ibrahimovic?... Obviously No!.. Pep might probably like him due to reasons outside football but it doesn't negate the fact that he doesn't like to work with tall strikers... Or are you literally telling me that you haven't started watching football when Pep managed Barca? undecided
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 4:34pm On Feb 13, 2018
forgiveness:
According to you if you are capped once or never by your national team, you are not great? grin

According to your theory of greatness, is Uche Nwofor great because he had ten caps for SE?

Is Reuben Gabriel great because he had 12 caps for SE? grin

Is Ejike Uzeonyi great because he had 21 caps for SE?. grin

Is Shola Ameobi very great because he had been capped 10 times by the SE? grin

Is Michael Uchebo Super great because he played 10 times for Nigeria? grin

So, if you a player has few caps and didn't go to a major tournament, he is not good enough? shocked grin


Is Mikel Arteta successful or not?

Is Maxwell of PSG successful or not?
I will give you a short note,are we talking about european players or nigerian UK players?

You had to change it because you are going out of point

So you will consider gabriel agbonlahor who played for aston villa as a great player? because he was capped by england so any player capped by england is a great player?

Mikel Arteta is unlucky to play in the same generation with xavi ,xabi alonso and co,he has a good career at everton and arsenal,i think he even captain arsenal so he is a great player,that is the definition of a great player

Maxwell also played for a star studded Brazil team,but he played for one of the gratest football club in the world which is Barcelona,a player that played for inter millan barcelona and psg is not a joke,compared to a player that played for aston villa almost all career,was there no big club bidding for him.

The other one played for Wimbledon fc in the 80s to 90s,is that one a great player? Dont you know the difference of a great player average and below average players?


Sentiment for sentiment and answer for answer maybe if you had answer some of my questions yes or no i would have answer yours so i will still make you beat around the bush not not telling you yes or no but educate you on some things

Uchebo only played 5 games for the super eagles so please stop adding u20 games to make it 10 to make it plenty lol,i take not of stats so you cant tell me that.

Even anthony okpotu of chan eagles if you check his stats,he has more than 5 caps,i think he played all chan games maybe even the qualifiers,Has anthony okpotu ever played for the super eagles? dont mix chan caps with real super eagles caps okay.

Uzoenyi caps might tell you 21 caps but he does not have more than 4 super eagles caps,others caps are from the chan team,he played so many games for the chan team so stop lying to make the stats many and please get your fact right before you post,uzoenyi did not even play the world cup qualifier during keshi time,elderson echejile had to be injured for him to be included in the world cup,so where 21 caps dey fly come? you wan dey lie? he played about 1 game in 2014 world cup,he was not even involved in those friendly before the world cup because elderson was last minute injured so he dont have more than 4 caps for super eagles.

We are talking about uk born nigerian players so stop including michael arteta okay,even marcos senna who is a brazillian force his way into the spain team for the 2006 world cup.

Once again get your fact right before you post.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 4:34pm On Feb 13, 2018
asha80:
anyone has any idea why awaziem has not been playing for nantes recently?
He has a muscle injury.. He is almost back..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by asha80(m): 4:36pm On Feb 13, 2018
tbaba1234:
He has a muscle injury.. He is almost back..
ok thanks
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by asha80(m): 4:44pm On Feb 13, 2018
on the discussion about the gk being a problematic area for eagles i also think we have a bit of an issue of the left back position..
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