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butterflyl1on:
And so far as highly grown as science has become they somehow cannot explain the source of human homosexuality yet can explain other planets

Evolutionists like you simply sweep it under "animals also exhibit homosexual behavior" so we must be from animals.

Regarding what you call natural disasters, I just showed you why they occur and the benefits they offer this planet and you still do not understand it? Alright then can you tell me the benefits of homosexuality based on evolutionary processes and genetic strength in the area of natural selection.

I really would like to read about how beneficial it is to humanity from you.

butterflyl1on:
Women don't like the pain (the pain is part of the process of childbirth)

A baby is born through this pain (THAT IS THE POSITIVE SIDE OF THAT ASPECT OF NATURE)

try again.

Emmanystone:
E go hard to dey keep eye for phone o. I dey here already.
Dem say make i enter Kitchen.
I dey cook o. I dey sweat here

tintingz:
Lol, how's labour pain beneficial is the question.

tintingz:
Seriously, you just said this crap?!

Lol, is that what I said?

Humans share some behaviors with animals, yes or no?

How is natural disasters beneficial by wiping out a community?

How is labour pain beneficial to women? How's natural disasters killing people's children beneficial to them?

You are not facing the main problem.

butterflyl1on:
Would you be glad and thank the doctors when you carry your newly born baby in your arms despite your wife bleeding and shouting in pain through the process or possibly undergoing a Caesarean section too?

dalaman:
So many things motivate me in life, survival alone is enough motivation for me. I don't need empty mythologies and fictional narratives.

tintingz:
I accept the pain is natural, I accept Homosexuality is natural, I accept natural disasters are natural, but I don't accept all what is natural are all positive and beneficial.

You on the other hand, you're cherry picking just because of your delusional ideology.

tintingz:
I accept the pain is natural, I accept Homosexuality is natural, I accept natural disasters are natural, but I don't accept all what is natural are all positive and beneficial.

You on the other hand, you're cherry picking just because of your delusional ideology.

OkCornel:
If we flip your thought process...that means things must be unnatural for it to be positive too right?

If homosexuality is positive...and one of your ancestors took that route...I hope you know most likely you won't be here having this chat with me... (I don't mean this as an insult)...

The positive thing I see to all this is that you exist because you came through natural means i.e sex between a man and woman...not man/man or woman/woman or man/goat or woman/horse...

Think about it..

Ronpet777:
And after ur glorified existence Wot follows?

tintingz:
Natural Phenomena that are both positive and negative, explainable and unexplainable are all still natural.

butterflyl1on:
How is giving birth to a fully formed big baby beneficial to man and having this fully formed big baby being pushed out from an opening much smaller than it is.

Think and stop typing for the sake of it.

Why don't you try swallowing a golf ball painlessly.

tintingz:
Natural Phenomena that are both positive and negative, explainable and unexplainable are all still natural.

tintingz:
Why not ask your God, why must there be pain when women are in labor even tho he knows it's not comfortable and beneficial.

Cant your God look for a comfortable process for child birth? Oh I forget it's a curse, your God knows labor pain is not beneficial.

Is this Natural? Do you reason befor you post things?

butterflyl1on:
Call it crap but I just showed you the view of science regarding homosexuality. Do they have answers? No.

List them.

" natural disasters " do what they do unapologetically because they are set on their course.

I just answered this in my other post. People die everyday through other means. Would you say cars are bad due to accidents. Or electricity is bad due to electrocutions?

I think you are the one not facing the main problem.

tintingz:
So what answer does your religion give for Homosexuality?

Like seriously?!

How does it benefits a society, that's the question.

Dude we will just be going on cycle.

These are not naturally caused oga

I've face the problem and accept what thet are, you're the one cherry picking.

dalaman:
I

I don't know and so do you. The difference btw me and you is that while I am happy to state the reality which is that no one knows you pretend to know what you don't know at all by clinging unto the mythologies and fictional narratives of ancient men that don't even know what the stars are or what the are made up of. Men who hold superstitious beliefs about the universe and life in general.

OkCornel:
It seems natural has another meaning I am not aware of...

So nature has designed man to sleep with his fellow man, and animals like goat, horse, dog, ape e.t.c. abi?

And yet you say someone's ideology is delusional? Quite interesting...

butterflyl1on:
You would do well to stick to the discussion while not being derogatory. I know it comes easy for an atheist to insult but some of you need to actually make some effort to hold it in.

List out anything you feel is natural, yet not beneficial and lets see them for what they are.

tintingz:
I once told to define natural.

> Natural

1. Existing in or derived from nature; not made or caused by humankind.

2. In accordance with the nature of, or crcumstances surrounding, someone or something.

3. Relating to earthly human or physical nature as distinct from the spiritual or supernatural realm.

4. a person born with a learning disability.

From this definition here, is Homosexuality natural or not?

butterflyl1on:
God has already designed a method of communicating with him and it's called THE HOLY SPIRIT which is not a human invention. So you fail AGAIN!

tintingz:
I once told you to define natural.

> Natural

1. Existing in or derived from nature; not made or caused by humankind.

2. In accordance with the nature of, or crcumstances surrounding, someone or something.

3. Relating to earthly human or physical nature as distinct from the spiritual or supernatural realm.

4. a person born with a learning disability.

From this definition here, is Homosexuality natural or not?

OkCornel:
How is homosexuality natural?

is bestiality natural too?

tintingz:
Because we certainly know what caused this.

We don't certainly know what makes some people indulge in this.

I've given you the definition of natural.

tintingz:
Natural disasters, labor pain, Homosexuality etc

Let's me ask if Homosexuals have "sex" what do they benefit from it?

butterflyl1on:
Perhaps you can design a zipper on the stomach of a woman so when she is due for delivery you just zip it open and bring out the baby.

Why not do this first. Design and create a human with every little component complete and then add your upgrades while making sure your upgrades do not affect the already existing components. Let's call your version human 3.0. When you are done with that, then you can criticise the one you would now regard as obsolete. Or human version 1.0

dalaman:
The holy spirit remains a lie and a man made invention. You can NOT USE the Holy Spirit to do anything. You can NOT even use it to convince your fellow christian on any issue that you disagree on. You are a literal creationist based on your post. A christian like KingEbukasBlog is NOT a literal creationist. He is a theistic evolutionist, many christians here are also theistic evolutionist that do NOT believe in your creationism. They also believe in your holy spirit but till do not share the same belief as you do. Can you use the holy spirt and communicate with them? What about the thithers and anti tithers? They both use the bible and the Holy Spirit to justify their positions while using the same holyspirit to castigate those that oppose them.

The prosperity wed of faith preachers that believe christians are NOT suppose to suffer or go through any kind of hardship because they are worshipping a Gof that owns everything. They use the same bible and may claim to the same holy spirit when making their case. They as use the same holyspirit to berate and castigate those christians that go against them.

Catholics, protestants, orthodox etc all use the holy spirit but they do not agree on anything. The holy spirit is yet to tell christians is Jesus is God himself or a distinct personality that is different from God. Some christians believe in th trinity while others do not. The holy spirit is yet to settle that issue. How salvation can be attained is still an issue that is not clear among christians. The holyspirit isbyetbto settle that issue and explain to believers that hold different opinions what the true position is.

The Holy Spirit is a man made invention that is even confusing and unclear that is why every body is just using it to support his own opinion and personal interpretation. The holy spirit is not objective, unclear and can not be used to demonstrate anything to believers themselves. There is nothing that supports and promotes confusion and madness like the holy spirit. When in Nigeria I was watching a TV program titled let the bible speak in Benue state where one guy was saying that the holy spirit told him that those that speak gibberish when speaking in tongues do not know what they are doing. He said your speaking in tongues is valid only if someone can interprete what you are saying and he used biblical verses. Bring those that engage themselves in the gibberish anf they will also lay claim to the holy spirit. There is no enabler of this delusion that christians display daily more than this imaginary holy spirit.

butterflyl1on:
LMAO what a way to reason. Homosexuality is natural you say and you say nature has positive and negative sides so I asked you to give me the positive sides of homosexuality in humans yet you keep dodging this.

If homosexual is natural in humans would you allow a man to penetrate your anus or touch you in an unseemly manner?

Since it's perfectly natural and normal you wouldn't frown at it right?

tintingz:
Why not suggest this to YAHWEH.

Yahweh is all powerful isn't he?


Is this how Yahweh is imperfect?

tintingz:
I'm not Homosexual, those that are Homosexuals find thier sexual satisfaction in it, that's what they benefit in it.

If Homosexuals is not natural, it shouldn't exist in the first place!

tintingz:
I'm not Homosexual, those that are Homosexuals find thier sexual satisfaction in it, that's what they benefit in it.

If Homosexuals is not natural, it shouldn't exist in the first place!