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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 8:39am On Feb 16, 2018
dipoolowoo:
Overnight Rate Drops as T-Bills Market Trades Flat
https://www.businesspost.ng/2018/02/16/overnight-rate-drops-t-bills-market-trades-flat/
why are they getting no bids for the omo 50 bn offered by cbn is it that they want rate upward to 15 or move to stock to make a kill 150 percent
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by confluence: 12:38pm On Feb 16, 2018
244 days @ 13.4 First bank
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by C4Ltd: 1:02pm On Feb 16, 2018
confluence:
244 days @ 13.4 First bank
zamirikpo:
My alert done come ooh
Stanbic is the best for primary market jare.
Got 13.6% for 364dayz.
231 days@ 13.7 stanbic secondary grin
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Sammybabelious: 1:31pm On Feb 16, 2018
Wowww... Thank u so much sir,
I Now understand.
I Appreciate sir
You will make a good Teacher.
TONY56:
If you had submitted your email address with the bank before for online banking, then the should have been sending you email alerts. If not, you can send mail to their customer care requesting for it or approach a Fisrt bank branch manager near you for assistance.

91day tenor on 91day at 11.5% on N1,100,000 gives N1,100,000 x 11.5/100 x 91/364 = N31,625 (excluding transaction charges) if you were to be paid up front.

If you reinvested your interest less charges of say N31,000, your new or 2nd interest will be N31,000 ×11.5/100 × 91/364 = N891.25 also excluding transaction charges.

Since this second interest is not up to N1000, it can't be further reinvested. So it will be paid into your account less transaction costs which I guess is the N857.46 interest that was eventually paid into your account on 15/02/2018.

Then at maturity (after 91days), you will receive N1,100,000 + about N31,000 = N1,131,000. But note that N857.46 has already been paid to you too making a total of N1,131,857.46.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by savewelllivewel: 5:15pm On Feb 16, 2018
Good evening my ogas in TB business. Pls i have been doing TB for sometimes now, but I was at my usual branch of FBN today to give instruction for another TB deal and the lady who has been attending to me bfr now, said there is a new instruction from head office this week that for you to do TB, it must be ftom 50m upward,, as such couldnt book me. pls has anyone experienced such from Fbn lately.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by savewelllivewel: 5:22pm On Feb 16, 2018
Please I also need assistance on how to calculate compound interest e.g for N3m @ 13.5 for two years. Please I am a little confused, I dnt want to mislead a client. Thanks everyone for your usual assistance.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 5:40pm On Feb 16, 2018
savewelllivewel:
Please I also need assistance on how to calculate compound interest e.g for N3m @ 13.5 for two years. Please I am a little confused, I dnt want to mislead a client. Thanks everyone for your usual assistance.
1.28 x3.5m equal to 4.5 m
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 5:42pm On Feb 16, 2018
or (13.5/100)x(13.5/100)x3500000=
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TONY56: 8:16pm On Feb 16, 2018
Alikote:
1.28 x3.5m equal to 4.5 m
Sorry sir o.
I don't understand how the compound interest on N3m at 13.5% for two yrs can amount to N4.5m o.

Something must be wrong somewhere with that calculation.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by haibe(m): 8:19pm On Feb 16, 2018
savewelllivewel:
Please I also need assistance on how to calculate compound interest e.g for N3m @ 13.5 for two years. Please I am a little confused, I dnt want to mislead a client. Thanks everyone for your usual assistance.
3.86 million - 3m = 0.86million.

The future value is 3,864,675, so your interest is 864,675

Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 8:26pm On Feb 16, 2018
TONY56:
Sorry sir o.
I don't understand how the compound interest on N3m at 13.5% for two yrs can amount to N4.5m o.

Something must be wrong somewhere with that calculation.
i was calculate for 3.5 m
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 8:27pm On Feb 16, 2018
Just x by 1.28 by 3 m u get it
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by haibe(m): 8:28pm On Feb 16, 2018
Alikote:
i was calculate for 3.5 m
and you showed the future value, not the interest.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 8:30pm On Feb 16, 2018
haibe:
and you showed the future value, not the interest.
1.28x 3m give u future value
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 8:32pm On Feb 16, 2018
No need for big formular
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by dipoolowoo: 4:03am On Feb 17, 2018
T-Bills Yields Slightly Rise 0.07% on Squeeze in System Liquidity
https://www.businesspost.ng/2018/02/17/t-bills-yields-rise-0-07-on-squeeze-in-system-liquidity/
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 4:18am On Feb 17, 2018
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 4:22am On Feb 17, 2018
The gurus in the house should please confirm this formula for me , thanks.


INTEREST
TRUE YIELD = CAPITAL – INTEREST = P

TRUE YIELD = P X 100


i.e. interest divided by difference between interest and capital, all multiplied by 100
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by haibe(m):
GODAKPAN:
The gurus in the house should please confirm this formula for me , thanks.


INTEREST
TRUE YIELD = CAPITAL – INTEREST = P

TRUE YIELD = P X 100


i.e. interest divided by difference between interest and capital, all multiplied by 100
Correct!! Int/Cap - Int * 100%.

But note that this formula may not work for other debt instruments. Because T Bills is a debt instrument that pays interest upfront in form of capital gains only [i.e a Zero Coupon Instrument], then the formula is fine. Although what is more important is for you to be able to plot the cash flows of your investment.

To make things easy, you may use a financial calculator or Excel to compute an IRR. These days everything can be done digitally. The IRR is the effective yield or yield to maturity of the debt instrument (e.g T Bills)
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TONY56: 5:44am On Feb 17, 2018
Alikote:
Just x by 1.28 by 3 m u get it
You see, if you want to teach someone who doesn't know how to calculate either simple or compound interest or even mathematics generally, you teach starting with the basics.

You don't just bring in a formula that he doesn't know how you got or arrived at. If you do that, he will be confused and will be asking more questions. How do you expect him to know how or where you got 1.28 from? And even the answer you will get will NEVER give you the exact answer.

Now, this is the simple way I will teach @savewelllivewel how to calculate the compound interest on N3m at 13.5% for 2yrs and there's no way he won't understand it:

1.The interest for first yr is N3,000,000 × 13.5/100 = N405,000.
2.For the 2nd yr, the principal amount now becomes N3,000,000 + N405,000 (the interest accrued the previous yr) = N3,405,000 since it was not paid to the owner.
Therefore, interest for 2nd year is >> N3,405,000 × 13.5/100 = N459,675.

3.The compound interest for the two yrs = N405,000 (for 1st yr) + N459,675 (for 2nd yr)
= N864,675 (QED) grin.

With this simple, method, I have really come down to his level and that of many others on this thread who MAY not be good in Mathematics to be able to understand it
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 6:05am On Feb 17, 2018
haibe:
Correct!! Int/Cap - Int * 100%.

But note that this formula may not work for other debt instruments. Because T Bills is a debt instrument that pays interest upfront, then the formula is fine. Although what is more important is for you to be able to plot the cash flows of your investment.

To make things easy, you may use a financial calculator or Excel to compute an IRR. These days everything can be done digitally. The IRR is the effective yield or yield to maturity of the debt instrument (e.g T Bills)
Thanks a million, my interest is strictly on Tbills
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 8:02am On Feb 17, 2018
TONY56:
You see, if you want to teach someone who doesn't know how to calculate either simple or compound interest or even mathematics generally, you teach starting with the basics.

You don't just bring in a formula that he doesn't know how you got or arrived at. If you do that, he will be confused and will be asking more questions. How do you expect him to know how or where you got 1.28 from? And even the answer you will get will NEVER give you the exact answer
This is apt.

If I didn't know better, I would have thought the 1.28 was a constant. So anytime I want to calculate returns, I'll simply multiply principal by 1.28 grin
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by edisoncash: 8:39am On Feb 17, 2018
Treasury bill minimum to start now is 50 millions
How will small scale investors start it now
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Kemade2007(f): 9:44am On Feb 17, 2018
edisoncash:
Treasury bill minimum to start now is 50 millions
How will small scale investors start it now
How are you sure?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TONY56: 9:56am On Feb 17, 2018
edisoncash:
Treasury bill minimum to start now is 50 millions
How will small scale investors start it now
Who say?
What's the source of your information?
CBN or a Particular Bank?

Individual banks can take that decision but it can't be binding on all.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by MrHighSea: 10:00am On Feb 17, 2018
Minimum of 50 million for primary market.

Individual banks stipulate anything for the secondary market.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by BECALMBECALM(m): 10:03am On Feb 17, 2018
May God bless everyone.You guys are sharing very nice and good information here.I enjoyed reading every comment.Please I have a question: how do invest in tills with my monthly salary?Atleast I can keep aside 500k every month.How do I invest 500k monthly on tbills?I want to do this for the next 11 months.Please i need urgent and clear answer.Thank you
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ositadima1(m): 10:15am On Feb 17, 2018
edisoncash:
Treasury bill minimum to start now is 50 millions
How will small scale investors start it now
huh
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 12:04pm On Feb 17, 2018
BECALMBECALM:
May God bless everyone.You guys are sharing very nice and good information here.I enjoyed reading every comment.Please I have a question: how do invest in tills with my monthly salary?Atleast I can keep aside 500k every month.How do I invest 500k monthly on tbills?I want to do this for the next 11 months.Please i need urgent and clear answer.Thank you
Talk to them at the investment desk of your bank.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by zamirikpo(m): 3:55pm On Feb 17, 2018
BECALMBECALM:
May God bless everyone.You guys are sharing very nice and good information here.I enjoyed reading every comment.Please I have a question: how do invest in tills with my monthly salary?Atleast I can keep aside 500k every month.How do I invest 500k monthly on tbills?I want to do this for the next 11 months.Please i need urgent and clear answer.Thank you
Just go to stanbic or first bank and tell them .....shikena.

Primary or secondary whichever u choose.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 4:00pm On Feb 17, 2018
BECALMBECALM:
May God bless everyone.You guys are sharing very nice and good information here.I enjoyed reading every comment.Please I have a question: how do invest in tills with my monthly salary?Atleast I can keep aside 500k every month.How do I invest 500k monthly on tbills?I want to do this for the next 11 months.Please i need urgent and clear answer.Thank you
Do that for 15yrs and go to bed while your money works for you
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by RealityShot: 8:01pm On Feb 17, 2018
MrHighSea:
Minimum of 50 million for primary market.

Individual banks stipulate anything for the secondary market.
this news needs to be confirmed O!

anyways, secondary mkt aint so BAD!

thanks for sharing.
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